Hey everyone,
Have had my tablet for over a month now and absolutely loving it. Just a question to anyone that may know better than me. I was trying to link a PS3 remote to my tablet but no luck with the bluetooth connection. I have seen videos on youtube of a logitech remote, but since it is a sony device(playstation certified one none the less) I was hoping to use them when playing games. I know there is a program called siaxis controller, and siaxis compatability, but no go with either of them......anyone have any ideas or luck with trying?. I have even plugged the controller into the usb slot with the cable.
the pad currently won't work. Sony use a weird bluetooth setup on the ps3.
I've been told in 2 sony shops that it will officially support the pads at some point I'm guessing with ics.
If we got root then you can hack it to work but no root so far
It can be done with a USB connected controller, I can't post the link yet, but search Youtube for 'Sony Tablet S with PlayStation Gaming Controller' a MobileTech review.
Not sure about a wireless option though.
Yeah this was what I thought..... I looked high and low and couldn't find any info on the PS3 controller connection. I did find the video you were talking about for the usb controller. Thanks for that. Just a little bit of a bummer. One thing they seemed to have over looked, but I am sure with some software update in the near future, or rooting, we will figure out a way to get it to work.
If anyone finds anything in the mean time, please post it.....would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
The problem with video is it uses Logitech not Sony controller, I wish there was a way to use Sony one wirelessly or wired at least.
Hey guys...
The goal is to connect/mirror my tablet to a HDTV wirelessly without a HDMI cord anyone know/recommend a product that would allow this process efficiently? Thanks!
Canious said:
Hey guys...
The goal is to connect/mirror my tablet to a HDTV wirelessly without a HDMI cord anyone know/recommend a product that would allow this process efficiently? Thanks!
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I've been meaning to ask the same question... I can't find and WHDMI kits for micro HDMI ports, and even the full-sized ones are bulky I'm hoping there's a better alternative that using a full sized one with a converter...
Currently I can't think of any products that I'd recommend or advocate.
WHDI is the technology currently being backed by several manufacturers as being "the answer" to High Definition streaming, but currently the number of compatible devices is exceptionally low.
The only product that I can come up with that is even close to what you're after would be this:
www(dot)galaxywhdi(dot)com/Product4(dot)aspx
You'd need a micro-HDMI->HDMI dongle as well and I'm not 100% sure it's compatible with Android devices, I'm not capable of checking from my work desk.
Squiggle said:
Currently I can't think of any products that I'd recommend or advocate.
WHDI is the technology currently being backed by several manufacturers as being "the answer" to High Definition streaming, but currently the number of compatible devices is exceptionally low.
The only product that I can come up with that is even close to what you're after would be this:
www(dot)galaxywhdi(dot)com/Product4(dot)aspx
You'd need a micro-HDMI->HDMI dongle as well and I'm not 100% sure it's compatible with Android devices, I'm not capable of checking from my work desk.
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Thanks for the advice, but personally that device is way too hefty for me, and probably too expensive too.
I'm just about to move and am fine connecting my prime to the tv in the lounge using a cable, but that's not going to work in the bedroom. As I need to buy a TV anyway, would some sort of smart/wifi tv offer a (streaming/rdp) solution?
AppleTV is the only consumer product that I have heard of that provides this ability using Airplay Mirroring.
I recently read that there is a solution in beta that feigns Airplay onto Android devices, but I highly doubt it actually has mirroring, and can only be specific to iTunes supported media formats.
I only wish that Roku follows up on this idea and implements it into some of their models. Being able to directly compete w/ Apple at not just using streaming channels like Netflix but provide WiFi streaming from Android devices would be an instant hit.
Now when Google TV actually hits consumer hardware, you should be able to use something like iMedia Share to stream between two android devices. I stream my videos and music wirelessly to my PS3 using iMediaShare and it works pretty well, just doesn't have many options. All it really does is sets up a media server between the Prime and PS3. Luckily, the PS3 handles media servers very well.
If someone could find a way to make this thing able to do the directv rvu mode, then I would buy one for every room in my house.
For those who dont know, rvu is the new way a single dtv dvr will communicate with up to 6 (i think) remote boxes to distribute live tv and recorded content. some of the new samsung smart tvs have this feature integrated already.
just throwin this out there
any one have any thoughts on this?
I forgot to mention, the main reason i am asking this here is since i thought the samsung smart tvs have some android functionality.
sounds cool
i thought it would be cool since none of my tvs have good speakers, so this could be a one piece solution for sound, satellite and streaming in rooms other than the main tv room. someone should tell google this.lol
Why is it that once I connect to miracast it will disconnect from wifi? Is it hardware limitation or software bug? My Samsung note 2 can connect on both miracast and still maintain wifi connection.
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Why is it that once I connect to miracast it will disconnect from wifi? Is it hardware limitation or software bug? My Samsung note 2 can connect on both miracast and still maintain wifi connection.
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I believe that Sonys implementation of Miracast is wrong.
From what I read, Miracast it self allows for up to 10 connections and as you say your Samsung Galaxy Note 2 can handle both network connection and Miracast.
There's two threads at Sony's Xperia Forum that discuss this problem.
At first the Xperia Team said it was by design, but when several users explained that Samsung phones can have a Wifi connection active at the same time and that all Nexus phones running 4.2.2 could also handle this,
then the Xperia Team said that they would escalate the issue, but after that there has been no more feedback...
Here's the threads at Sony's Xperia Forum:
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/127452?start=0&tstart=0
http://talk.sonymobile.com/message/453753#453753
This is actually a really bad thing. I also purchased the push2tv system so could stream Netflix and YouTube from my tablet. No luck with that. My HTC one does it without problems.
I am starting to think that what if the random wifi disconnections are related and is because Sony uses only one antenna while there should be two.
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This is actually a really bad thing. I also purchased the push2tv system so could stream Netflix and YouTube from my tablet. No luck with that. My HTC one does it without problems.
I am starting to think that what if the random wifi disconnections are related and is because Sony uses only one antenna while there should be two.
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actually the tablet z uses MIMO and has 2 antennas. in my opinion it´s clearly a software restriction.
I had the same issue since i bought the dock and push2tv for the same reason. Unfortunately nothing so far. It is definitely a software problem as Sony seems to have fixed it with the Xperia Z Ultra. It works fine while still connected to wifi.
The Xperia Z disconnects also by the way.
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Is it a restriction on the S4, over Snapdragon 800? That could be why the Ultra (and then Honami) works.
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Is it a restriction on the S4, over Snapdragon 800? That could be why the Ultra (and then Honami) works.
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So it was not fixed with 4.2.2? LOL
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So it was not fixed with 4.2.2? LOL
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No. I have to assume it's a hardware restriction then, or Sony can't or won't fix it.
I am now using MHL, which seems like a far easier solution - although even that cuts the performance of the phone considerably. Epic Citadel can benchmark at around 59fps on the phone display, but output via HDMI and it drops things to 30-40fps.
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No. I have to assume it's a hardware restriction then, or Sony can't or won't fix it.
I am now using MHL, which seems like a far easier solution - although even that cuts the performance of the phone considerably. Epic Citadel can benchmark at around 59fps on the phone display, but output via HDMI and it drops things to 30-40fps.
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weird, some say it works on T, so why would XZ and XTZ be affected?
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weird, some say it works on T, so why would XZ and XTZ be affected?
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That's weird if it works on the T. I think this needs to be clarified. If it does, Sony really should be able to make it work, or else asked why they went backwards with the Z/TZ by changing the Wi-Fi specs/antennas.
I am going to go and check my Nexus 4 and see if that retains the connection. Previously I couldn't connect it to my TV but a new LG update on the TV has hopefully fixed things.
So did Sony really f*ck this up here. Unbelievable..I must say that I am so disappointed now. I was hoping to stream Netflix from the tablet.
Maybe I then have to get chromecast when available in Europe. I assume that it doesn't use miracast to do the streaming but likely it will stream on its own.
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So did Sony really f*ck this up here. Unbelievable..I must say that I am so disappointed now. I was hoping to stream Netflix from the tablet.
Maybe I then have to get chromecast when available in Europe. I assume that it doesn't use miracast to do the streaming but likely it will stream on its own.
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Right, just tried my Nexus 4 and it does keep the Wi-Fi connection. However, there's a lot more lag and the TV image doesn't quite keep up. What's more, the picture breaks up when it doesn't on the Xperia Z.
However, having an Internet connection does of course mean you can now stream TV and movies with Netflix or Google Play. Play crashed when playing a film though, and I have to say I didn't realise it could output a different screen. Netflix doesn't support this, and I'm not sure what else might (perhaps YouTube and other Google apps?).
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Forget it, guys.
This concept of streaming stuff from the tablet is going to fade anyway.
For Youtube, Netflix etc. simply shell out $35 and get a Chromecast.
Or buy a Raspberry Pi and make your own Chromecast-y device.
Or buy a Satellite receiver like the Vu+ Solo2 and use Airplayer plugin.
All these solutions have in common that the streaming happens on the other device, not the tablet, and therefore is simply more stable and reliable (especially when a wired network connection is used). The tablet is only a controller, a"chooser" for media. (That's also more battery-friendly, by the way.)
Yes I know it should keep the wifi connection. I am mirrorring with my HTC One and wifi doesn't disconnect.
Only problem with HTC One is that after using for an hour or so the phone will get so hot that I get some warning message about it.
So that much for watching a movie like that.
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Forget it, guys.
This concept of streaming stuff from the tablet is going to fade anyway.
For Youtube, Netflix etc. simply shell out $35 and get a Chromecast.
Or buy a Raspberry Pi and make your own Chromecast-y device.
Or buy a Satellite receiver like the Vu+ Solo2 and use Airplayer plugin.
All these solutions have in common that the streaming happens on the other device, not the tablet, and therefore is simply more stable and reliable (especially when a wired network connection is used). The tablet is only a controller, a"chooser" for media. (That's also more battery-friendly, by the way.)
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Yes thats basically the better way to do it. I also do have WDTV Live and I can basically use Youtube so that I control with tablet and play on the big screen. Unfortunately the software on WDTV Live is buggy as hell and it crashes every now and then.
Also for some reason Netflix doesn't have this similar possibility.
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Yes I know it should keep the wifi connection. I am mirrorring with my HTC One and wifi doesn't disconnect.
Only problem with HTC One is that after using for an hour or so the phone will get so hot that I get some warning message about it.
So that much for watching a movie like that.
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Yes thats basically the better way to do it. I also do have WDTV Live and I can basically use Youtube so that I control with tablet and play on the big screen. Unfortunately the software on WDTV Live is buggy as hell and it crashes every now and then.
Also for some reason Netflix doesn't have this similar possibility.
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I agree that the Chromecast way of doing things is the way forward for streaming services. However, I'd have liked to be able to play games without lag/dropped frames on the big-screen - and it seems that with or without the Wi-Fi connection staying open, the quality isn't quite there.
Maybe Snapdragon 800 improves this - and that could be something to sway me towards Honami - but perhaps Miracast will remain useful for showing off photo and videos stored locally (your own content) as a far better option than DLNA that rarely, if ever, works with modern video formats and resolutions.
Things like Miracast etc. are mostly used at home, where you have your TV or projector.
But at home it's not necessary to store the videos on a tablet and then stream them to the TV.
At home one has some kind of NAS from which the files are fetched.
I admit that for a long time I also thought about using the tablet as media hub / storage.
But if one thinks a bit about it and researches, it becomes obvious that much better and tried-and-tested options exist.
And for all other cases (like projecting different apps or playing a game on the big screen) the Tablet Z has a MHL/HDMI output, that's what it's for.
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And for all other cases (like projecting different apps or playing a game on the big screen) the Tablet Z has a MHL/HDMI output, that's what it's for.
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Even MHL slows the phone down, which must be a hardware limitation of the phone.
SlimPort is even worse. I don't know what sort of handshaking is carried out with that, but on my Nexus 4 when I was at CES I was on the stand of a company making them and we hooked my phone up to have the phone crash (even restarting on occasion) within seconds of connecting it.
I'd be interested to see if Snapdragon 800 has less problems with TV output, via Miracast or a cable - but the idea of using the smartphone as a remote to control streaming directly to a device (like a TV with a wired Internet connection) certainly makes sense. Google has once again come up with something great here, and it's probably totally the opposite of the direction Apple intends to take TV in the future.
Miracast
Hi guys, has anyone else had problems connecting their XTZ using miracast? I have the push2tv and my HTC One connects perfectly, but my Xperia tablet gives the error "Could not turn on screen mirroring. The output device does not support HDCP". It seems very strange as the tablet is listed the supported devices on Netgear's site.
I have the 312 version, and have the latest firmware on the push2tv.
this problem definitely not solved within 4.2 update. Dissapointing.
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This ist what I posted in the sony forum thread under talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Tablet-Z/Can-t-do-Screen-Mirroring-miracast-and-WiFi-connection/td-p/333179/page/3[/url]
Sooo, installed Cyanogenmod 10.2 (based on Android 4.3 which supports WiDi/Miracast natively) and see there:
WIDI/Miracast and the connection to my home WiFi Network work simultaneously.....!!!
So Sony, two lessons for you here:
1. Get of your collective ***** and get Android 4.3 going without nerfing perfectly fine core features
2. If you're going the forum/community way, provide correct information (aka really ask your developers) and don't spew half informed nonsense/play the information hiding game...
To everyone else here: give them ****, or they will never learn!
PS: Who wants to try, google Cyanogenmod ("Pollux" -for LTE variant- or "Pollux_Windy" -for WiFi only variant-). Warning!: Possible Warranty void when flashing custom ROMS
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=> SW Issue !!!
Ok I know this might be a dumb question, I did read a few of the topics already so don't crucify me lol
I'm thinking of swapping to the z2 from a galaxy s3 (i've been sitting on this thing for way too long). I have a lot of samsung stuff in my apartment, things like allshare cast, mac remote app, smart remote. I'm sure I should have no problems pairing my phone to my smart tv's and my NAS provided there are android apps for it. For some reason I just have this feeling that anything samsung in terms of connectivity that's non-DLNA is proprietary and I might be missing out on something if I swap over and find out later my phone can not talk to my in house devices. I have 3 smart TV's, mac book pro, and a NAS. I like to think that all these devices have apps on the android platform and I could easily just reinstall these apps and pair the new phone to the devices through out the house like I currently have it setup with my S3.
Appreciate any insight.