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I can imagine this may have been asked before, yet I can't find any definitive answers, to what are the benefits to running ICS over Gingerbread at this time?
I dont really think there is much right at this moment, due to the ICS being out is so buggy, but i read alot of positive about CM9 which is running ICS - though one major drawback for me is the USB mount doesn't work.
But after playing around with my dads Galaxy Nexus, the diffrence aint gamebreaking. Surely its optimised in other ways, better interface imo - but again, Gingerbread is really great, and i will surely stick to this untill ROM chefs starts to cook roms on stable ICS releases.
Eventually check out my thread where some people are talking about ICS and the benefits from it compared to Gingerbread
right, ics is still buggy. but check out some of the very good custom ics roms in the development forum. some of them now are more stable than they previously do. i mean, stable enough for daily use.
apparently ICS has a lot of benefit over GB:
some of the good points:
- smoother ui animation (you'll feel more smoother than GB, also there are more transition animation added)
- improved google apps (gmail, calendar, maps, phone, sms have been redesigned and feels better than current version in GB)
- voice dictation (different from the one in GB, instead of "press-speak-press-speak", now you can keep speaking and the word will come out as you speak)
- face unlock (no need to introduce)
- options to encrypt the phone memory (forget if GB has it)
- some new widgets (some of the custom roms use AOSP apps instead of the samsung one, e.g. the calendar widget looks much better now)
- camera app seems to open faster
some problems:
- usb mass storage not working (may get fixed in the future, but now you can use MTP instead, if you are using windows or mac. linux users can have some problem with that)
- some apps don't work with ICS (most apps work, for the rest we need to wait for update to support ics)
- battery drain issue (there have been several report for battery drain on "Android OS" process, google seems to fix it in 4.0.4, so we just need to wait. currently mine can last over 10h with moderate use)
- remember it's still in alpha/beta stage, so backup your data!
if you are really interested, make a full backup using CWM and try to flash some of the roms. you can always go back to ginger bread by recovering the backup. hope this helps
I tried one of the cyanogenmod alpha builds from codeworkx and i had the impression that the menu is cleanear and more tidied up all in all. dont know if thats an ics or a cyanogenmod thing though.
my wireless lan seemed to work better, too
THUDUK said:
I can imagine this may have been asked before, yet I can't find any definitive answers, to what are the benefits to running ICS over Gingerbread at this time?
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After being on ICS Remix 8.6 by Westcrip, I "feel" the browsing, the sliding and most of the navigation on the phone is happening a lot faster.
Before February I felt like my old Gingerbread-thingy by Eskimo i belive... was the nuts. Now its like playing in a other league.
My SG2 feels generally Smoooottthheeeer
My 3 cents
The taste is better
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More for hot weather, really.
I updated to 404, and kept it for a week. Now I'm back on GB and oh man it's so much better.
Why is ICS so freaking horrible on this phone?
Compared to GB, ICS is buggy, slow, unstable, unresponsive and prone to hang.
I don't know what you use your phone for, but with mine, I used to play games, browse the web, and listen to music, other than normal phone usage for calls and SMS.
The browser on ICS is pathetically slow and unstable compared to the one in Gingerbread. In GB, you could actually run 720p youtube videos in desktop mode page and it would actually work perfectly. If you do it on ICS you risk hanging your phone and having to remove the battery. Either that, or the browser either crashes or becomes extremely unresponsive to the point even haptic feedback on the back and home buttons becomes delayed. On certain complex desktop pages, swiping becomes unresponsive and responds up to a full second late. Try this on the youtube desktop page or any other big page. Also, the new ICS browser tends to close on it's own for no reason, and as far as I know, there is no way to go back to the home page using it. The only way is to open a new tab, go back to the tab page, close the old tab and switch to the new tab. On the old one all you have to do is simply close all tabs and the browser would automagically put you back to the home page.
Games used to run fairly well on GB but in ICS they are so much more laggy. Some games that were perfectly fluid and playable are choppy on ICS, for example, Wind Up Knight, Let's Golf 3 (which is unplayable), Asphalt 6. The Angry Bots tech demo ran well on GB but it lags like there is no tomorrow on ICS. Another game that used to work perfectly in GB is Riptide GP, after I updated to 404, the game tends to hang the phone after a while, requiring a battery removal.
Other than this, the ICS update has several bugs including malfunctioning led notifications, no compass in google maps (this basically renders google maps unusable), and general clunky feel when scrolling through homescreens, when in GB the whole thing was smooth as silk. Even using a live wallpaper couldn't make the phone slow on GB, while on ICS it looks like even moving a bunch of icons is too much for this phone to handle.
Sure, ICS adds some eye candy such as the NXT theme which I really like, an animation for screen rotation, but I'd rather have a functional phone than a pretty but slow, clunky, unstable phone.
Again, I have no idea why you guys love ICS so much, GB is a lot better in every way imaginable, and as an added bonus, you can use all the Xperia S stuff on it without any problem, including the beautiful new music player.
ICS is simply a slow clunky mess which barely works. I'd love to know why you think it's better than GB.
not true .. it is laggy because it runs on 1ghz .. imagine if ur phone had 600mhz .. laggy as hell but weirdly htc desire c ... can run ics
be lucky that sony actually updated ur xperia ray unlike scamsung they didnt update the galaxy s to ics because its specs cant handle it but it has same specs as our ray
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This is the reason Sony wont provide more updates when they see such threads.....
Remember what they did to XPeria Play users...?
Sony released a Beta ICS for Xperia play and all users started complaining games are laggy !!, it sucks!!, ICS is fail!!... the end result was Sony cancelled ICS for Play..
You are wrong ics runs super smooth on galaxy ace 800mhz older gen cpu
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This is the reason Sony wont provide more updates when they see such threads.....
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You are wrong.
The user has every right in the world to complain if something doesn't work properly. I don't think the users complaining has anything to do with Play not receiving ICS.
ICS on Ray is slow and it is much worse than Gingerbread for whatever reason. Maybe our phone is not powerful enough to run ICS in the first place?
Also, I would have preferred an update to Gingerbread with all the Xperia S stuff and gingerbread 2.3.7 to this ICS which is exactly the same as gingerbread for the most part, only much slower and buggy.
A smartphone should be all about ease of use, if I have to resort to modding and overclocking to get the damn thing running at an acceptable level of performance, there has to be something very wrong with it.
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ICS on Ray is slow and it is much worse than Gingerbread for whatever reason.
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Sony did offer an explanation for this: ICS was made for a dual core phone with 1 GB RAM
although ICS is new and compelling in many ways, we would like all of our users to make an informed decision when selecting what Android™ software to use. We are actually proud to say that our Gingerbread software is very stable and has great performance, so it’s not a bad idea to stay on this release. Ice Cream Sandwich is more intensive, for example in terms of resource usage.
When it comes to ICS, it’s a major upgrade of Android™, and there are a lot of things that have changed compared to the Gingerbread release. Some of these changes affect the performance and stability of the system, for example by using more CPU power and RAM. ICS was developed with Galaxy Nexus in mind, which is based on a TI platform with dual-core processor and 1GB RAM
http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...nical-differences-between-gingerbread-and-ics
Phone is phone
Game console is game console
Phone is not a game console, and you would not get same experience....ever.
ICS is overall much better and functional than GB. Who wants to use 3.3" display for gaming has some serious mental problems :banghead:
Try custom ROMs
I have SE Xperia Ray and try almost all options (rooted/unrooted with custom ROMs or not) sincerely Stock firmware a little laggy in browser or then multitasking particularlry at version 4.03 BUT at 4.04 i see it a big difference in smoothness the OS is much stable. The big problem now is 512 RAM, problem until you root your phone and install custom ROM (you need to unlock bootloader without loosing DRM data) delete aplications who work in backround you really didn't need them like update, livemanager I was very happy when i unninstaled Gmaps that all time worked in background even if GPS off, and now I use Igo for GPS Navigation. Now I have KA20.2 ROM and I can you assure the phone are so smooth and stable. My advice: root your phone, unlock bootlader with a safe method ( I used S1) a install a custom ROM, here on XDA you may found so many nice performing ROMs, and of course remove useless aplication who work in backround and eat your precious RAM. And of course before you unlock bootloader and root the phone, install cwm, read the guides, exists a risk, you know so you need to be informed how to unlock bootloader, root your phone, use fastboot and flashboot mode, of course in the case you never rooted a phone.
Best regards.
YMMV
On my device I didn't encounter any bugs, lags or poor performance with the ICS.
It's stable, runs smoothly and has the same battery life I had with BG.
One can't say for a fact the ICS don't run well on this device, since other people have different experience with it. A person my note his personal experience - and it's just fine to do so!
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I have SE Xperia Ray and try almost all options (rooted/unrooted with custom ROMs or not) sincerely Stock firmware a little laggy in browser or then multitasking particularlry at version 4.03 BUT at 4.04 i see it a big difference in smoothness the OS is much stable. The big problem now is 512 RAM, problem until you root your phone and install custom ROM (you need to unlock bootloader without loosing DRM data) delete aplications who work in backround you really didn't need them like update, livemanager I was very happy when i unninstaled Gmaps that all time worked in background even if GPS off, and now I use Igo for GPS Navigation. Now I have KA20.2 ROM and I can you assure the phone are so smooth and stable. My advice: root your phone, unlock bootlader with a safe method ( I used S1) a install a custom ROM, here on XDA you may found so many nice performing ROMs, and of course remove useless aplication who work in backround and eat your precious RAM. And of course before you unlock bootloader and root the phone, install cwm, read the guides, exists a risk, you know so you need to be informed how to unlock bootloader, root your phone, use fastboot and flashboot mode, of course in the case you never rooted a phone.
Best regards.
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Where i can find i go navigation? it's free?
play games on ICS? ahaha you make me laugh. small screen but still eager to play games? LOL. go get Xperia Play mate, it build for gamers. i feel sorry for you then. GB is history for me. you'll never move forward if you keep looking back. neway, enjoy your phone mate
@MarkMRL: That's been my experience too, though I don't play games.
I haven't tried the latest ICS though, which people report as being much better.
I moved to CM7.2 - it's very fast, with lots of great features the stock ROM doesn't have.
At the end of the day use what you're happy with
ICS is not buggy but it needs time.
Ok so 1.ICS is better looking cause gingerbread is a pain to ur eyes
2. Its better optimized than gb games are slightly better
3. It is not just for non rooted phones. Like it needs lots of optimiztion. Cuz stock one ahs lot of procceses and u have only 50mb ram free at all time so thats why is laggy. But if you supercharge or smurph out you ray-bam its perfeckt
I have 130 apps lots of procceses running at backround 5 HD games i play and i still
have 120 mb free ram so.. you have wrong thoughts about ics on ray...
Hey man I was in the same boat as you, when I first upgraded to ice I asked myself WTF is this **** and I really hated it, it was slow as hell and laggy but you got to know that developers know a lot more than you and that everything happens for a reason. Sorry but you come across asa huge cry baby
A few weeks back I was almost in the same mind set as you are in right now, I thought gingerbread was the best and ics was just crap but boy was I wrong
follow these steps and il bet you'l make another thread about why you love ics this time
1. Backup all your data, contacts. Msgs and pics
2. Do a factory reset/full wipe
3. Use the seus/pc companion and do a "repair"
NOW YOUR PHONE SHOULD BE COMPLETE STOCK MODE
4. Root the phone
5. Go to developer options, uncheck "dont keep apps" and "limit background processes" remember UNCHECK
6. Change window&transistion animations to .5
7. Use se tweaker to get cwm
8. Use hansip87s system ui and framework mod smooth scrolling thing (this makes some neat changes and adds notification and control and status widgets to the notification panel and you dont have to use the stupid status widget and the lame control buttons
9. There are some build prop edits /hacks thread where I saw the code for faster UI and scrolling and smoother transistions
10. If you want to use some of the awesome ROMS here by the awesome devs
11. Delete this thread
12. ??????????????
13. PROFIT!!
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I bet you your device will be faster and better than gb now, also its not the end of the world so be patient sony will make it better with each update and please, if you want to game that much why did you buy a phone with a 3.3in screen bro? Pm me if u have any problems
Oh also use root explorer or any other app similar to uninstall the se bloatware crap, I always have 150-120 free RAM always now, plus ics seems to have ajdusted the internal memory a bit
Its better than gb (coming from someone who hated ics 2 weeks back)
rikee said:
Phone is phone
Game console is game console
Phone is not a game console, and you would not get same experience....ever.
ICS is overall much better and functional than GB. Who wants to use 3.3" display for gaming has some serious mental problems :banghead:
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This is not a "phone", it's a smartphone. It should be able to run games and internet browser. And 3.3 inches is more than enough for those silly smartphone games. Every game I tried is perfectly playable and looking good too. I'm not a "smartphone gamer" (just the name makes me cringe), but I enjoy wasting some time with those little games every now and then (I also have a PSP, DS and PSVita by the way). It annoys me that I was able to play certain games before but not anymore.
The point is that I was able to do all of that when I bought it, but now I can't do it anymore.
Icel.me said:
YMMV
On my device I didn't encounter any bugs, lags or poor performance with the ICS.
It's stable, runs smoothly and has the same battery life I had with BG.
One can't say for a fact the ICS don't run well on this device, since other people have different experience with it. A person my note his personal experience - and it's just fine to do so!
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Are you telling me your Ray has fully functional led notification and compass in google maps? Or that you can watch 720p youtube videos in the browser (or equivalent heavy browsing) without the crappy thing slowing down to a crawl or locking up entirely?
And no, I'm not crying I'm just stating facts.
Also, firefrenzy, that's exactly what I did when I updated to 404. I know all there is to know when it comes to installing stuff, I have unlocked bootloader and installed a stock kernel with CWM I found on this board, and also supercharged to 100%. Still horrible. I haven't tried ICS custom roms yet.
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Are you telling me your Ray has fully functional led notification and compass in google maps? Or that you can watch 720p youtube videos in the browser (or equivalent heavy browsing) without the crappy thing slowing down to a crawl or locking up entirely?
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i dont know about the compass in the maps because i dont use the google maps ever, but i have no problems with the led notification or lag when playing hd video through browser, i have multiple tabs, of xda developers and another bodybuilding forum tabs and im using whatsapp messenger and normal messenger with my earphones plugged in listening to music altogeather at once on an almost daily basis and im having no problems, sure all that is slurping away my battery but that is understandable, only issue i had was i could not charge the phone when "switched off" the phone used to go into a bootloop, but the awesome people here fixed that too
Also, firefrenzy, that's exactly what I did when I updated to 404. I know all there is to know when it comes to installing stuff, I have unlocked bootloader and installed a stock kernel with CWM I found on this board, and also supercharged to 100%. Still horrible. I haven't tried ICS custom roms yet.
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BRO TAKE OFF ALL THAT STUFF,CLEAR ALL CACHE AND DATA AND START OVER FROM STOCK, ICS IS BETTER THAT WAY
AND WHAT DO YOU MEAN UPGRADED TO 4.0.4, SE'S OFFICIAL IS STILL 4.0.3
ICS was smooth for me & it's smoother now i'm on JJ's Hybrid ROM.
Try a custom rom...
Run on 4.0.4 Original rooted with all bloat remove, including all FB stuff. It runns realy good. Sure get a redraw some times after surfing on some heavy sites or a long driveing session with waze. But in may normal daily use, read e-mail, check calander and make phone calls it runs realy well and lag free.
But the Sony dailer is crap, I use exDailer & Contacts, much better and faster.
This toic should be moved to general. Unless it helps developers in some way which i have a hard time believing.
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Hi all,
I'd just like to share my experience when testing the official ICS update:
It's quite fast, looks a bit nicer too, I really love the fact you can disable services (finally!).
However, next to the known bugs (notification led not working, more ram usage), I did experience some issues when streaming videos:
- flash video is extremely choppy, seems to be loading continually.
- same for the app dumpert.nl, which streams flv files. Loading the movie takes quite some time, after which it only runs smooth for a couple of seconds, then it gets loading again.
- playing video from sd seems to work correctly though.
- I have the impression that loading from sd card is way slower as on GB?
For the moment I have reverted to GB, as it runs smoother with almost no bugs.
Coming from iphone 3GS, I keep however dreaming of an android device with a silky smooth interface ;-) (perhaps 4.0.4+ ics will do that ?)
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Coming from iphone 3GS, I keep however dreaming of an android device with a silky smooth interface ;-) (perhaps 4.0.4+ ics will do that ?)
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I highly doubt that Sony will update 2011 series further than 4.0.4, as at first they were claiming that those phones' specs aren't good enough to run ICS properly.
but I guess that flashing custom ROMs and kernels might do the job
I too had pretty bad experience with ICS on my LWW and ultimately reverted back to superstable GingerBread.
But i love ICS. If you have any issue on SD card, use "Rom toolbox" or "SD Speed Increase" apps for improve SD card speed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807
Official Sony ICS ROM is full of crapware. This is what makes it slow. Use a custom ROM. My phone was never this fast and snappy before with stock ROM as it is now with custom ROM and kernel.
papul said:
Official Sony ICS ROM is full of crapware. This is what makes it slow. Use a custom ROM. My phone was never this fast and snappy before with stock ROM as it is now with custom ROM and kernel.
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That's why Android should be rooted.
papul said:
Official Sony ICS ROM is full of crapware. This is what makes it slow. Use a custom ROM. My phone was never this fast and snappy before with stock ROM as it is now with custom ROM and kernel.
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I use stock ROM and kernel, but i remove all the bloatware, so it run smoothly and move all the apps to SD card using link2SD.
well ..my experience that i'm not satisfied is the camera on ics have much noise from gb ..and i use camera all the time ..even on kmrsh miniCM ..
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well ..my experience that i'm not satisfied is the camera on ics have much noise from gb ..and i use camera all the time ..even on kmrsh miniCM ..
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Dude, My camera quality is a lot lot better with ICS, with GB its crap.. whats you model made, mine is 29w or something
android addicts said:
I use stock ROM and kernel, but i remove all the bloatware, so it run smoothly and move all the apps to SD card using link2SD.
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Custom ROMs are light. And highly optimised. It runs faster than official, even with the crapware removed.
Sent from my ST15i using XDA
I can't use a rooted rom, as my company has policies in place for the usage of smartphones in combination with corporate e-mail.
Still, with almost all services disabled, flash performance was still bad...
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jvdv360 said:
I can't use a rooted rom, as my company has policies in place for the usage of smartphones in combination with corporate e-mail.
Still, with almost all services disabled, flash performance was still bad...
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No root + bloatware on ICS = Lag/ Freeze screen.
Maybe you need to get a separate/personal phone.
2011 Xperia phones are a bit choppy by default running on ICS that's why you need to have root permissions (the least) to make some remedy.
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Dude, My camera quality is a lot lot better with ICS, with GB its crap.. whats you model made, mine is 29w or something
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mine is xperia mini ..its 11w36 ..after using ics ..i realize that every pic that i take it have more blurr side and much noise from gb ..does the model date effect the camera ? ..or other hardware ?
OK, since there's a thread I'll share my experience. First, let me point out the good things.
1. It's ICS. Fast, smooth, no lag in menus or stock apps. Runs great on this hardware.
2. I first thought the Sony UI would destroy the ICS experience, but I was pleasantly surprised. Except the bloatware, the icons and menus look great.
3. Battery life. In my usage experience is much better. I can very easily pull through a day and still have ~20% left. I'm talking about a few hours surfing on WiFi and a little browsing on 3G.
4. Multitasking. Even with 512MB ram and Sony bloatware, I can multitask without any application/game suddenly closing. Also the ICS multitasking menu is excellent.
5. Camera. The photos are finally in 100% JPEG quality. A photo is around 1.5 - 2 MB in size. Also, the videos seem to be of a better quality, even with the stabilizer on I don't have FPS drops. The only thing that's missing is the macro mode. Actually I think it's not missing since I once got the phone to say macro even though I was shooting an outside nature portrait. I think the camera app has problems when focusing close objects, this needs to be fixed.
Now I also have many of the problems already mentioned.
1. Notification LED. It doesn't work, except when the phone is charging, I get no light for SMS/Email/FB...
2. Games. Some games like Angry Birds Space, Temple Run and others suddenly the touch stops responding. A reboot usually solves this. I don't get what's causing this, as the games state that they are optimized for ICS.
4. Chrome Browser. The browser installs and runs fine, but whenever I click on a text field, the virtual keyboard doesn't show up. I can only use the QWERTY to type letters as the FN, Symbol and other keys don't work, which makes the browser pretty much unable. I can't find a fix, I think it's a application bug.
Overall, I'm satisfied with the update Sony managed to pull, maybe a little later than stated, but they kept their promise. Hope this bugs will be fixed with a new update.
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Custom ROMs are light. And highly optimised. It runs faster than official, even with the crapware removed.
Sent from my ST15i using XDA
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Thanks dude! But now my phone has 100 of apps and i link them to 2nd partition. So if i flash another ROM i lost my root and lost my all the apps, and i have to manually download them form play store.
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I can't use a rooted rom, as my company has policies in place for the usage of smartphones in combination with corporate e-mail.
Still, with almost all services disabled, flash performance was still bad...
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I think ICS has a option for disable the unwanted system apps, without root. Follow this guide http://www.thespicygadgematics.com/2012/06/how-to-remove-bloatware-on-android-ics.html
krstep said:
OK, since there's a thread I'll share my experience. First, let me point out the good things.
1. It's ICS. Fast, smooth, no lag in menus or stock apps. Runs great on this hardware.
2. I first thought the Sony UI would destroy the ICS experience, but I was pleasantly surprised. Except the bloatware, the icons and menus look great.
3. Battery life. In my usage experience is much better. I can very easily pull through a day and still have ~20% left. I'm talking about a few hours surfing on WiFi and a little browsing on 3G.
4. Multitasking. Even with 512MB ram and Sony bloatware, I can multitask without any application/game suddenly closing. Also the ICS multitasking menu is excellent.
5. Camera. The photos are finally in 100% JPEG quality. A photo is around 1.5 - 2 MB in size. Also, the videos seem to be of a better quality, even with the stabilizer on I don't have FPS drops. The only thing that's missing is the macro mode. Actually I think it's not missing since I once got the phone to say macro even though I was shooting an outside nature portrait. I think the camera app has problems when focusing close objects, this needs to be fixed.
Now I also have many of the problems already mentioned.
1. Notification LED. It doesn't work, except when the phone is charging, I get no light for SMS/Email/FB...
2. Games. Some games like Angry Birds Space, Temple Run and others suddenly the touch stops responding. A reboot usually solves this. I don't get what's causing this, as the games state that they are optimized for ICS.
4. Chrome Browser. The browser installs and runs fine, but whenever I click on a text field, the virtual keyboard doesn't show up. I can only use the QWERTY to type letters as the FN, Symbol and other keys don't work, which makes the browser pretty much unable. I can't find a fix, I think it's a application bug.
Overall, I'm satisfied with the update Sony managed to pull, maybe a little later than stated, but they kept their promise. Hope this bugs will be fixed with a new update.
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About the google chrome : I totally agreed you should report it to google
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krstep said:
OK, since there's a thread I'll share my experience. First, let me point out the good things.
1. It's ICS. Fast, smooth, no lag in menus or stock apps. Runs great on this hardware.
2. I first thought the Sony UI would destroy the ICS experience, but I was pleasantly surprised. Except the bloatware, the icons and menus look great.
3. Battery life. In my usage experience is much better. I can very easily pull through a day and still have ~20% left. I'm talking about a few hours surfing on WiFi and a little browsing on 3G.
4. Multitasking. Even with 512MB ram and Sony bloatware, I can multitask without any application/game suddenly closing. Also the ICS multitasking menu is excellent.
5. Camera. The photos are finally in 100% JPEG quality. A photo is around 1.5 - 2 MB in size. Also, the videos seem to be of a better quality, even with the stabilizer on I don't have FPS drops. The only thing that's missing is the macro mode. Actually I think it's not missing since I once got the phone to say macro even though I was shooting an outside nature portrait. I think the camera app has problems when focusing close objects, this needs to be fixed.
Now I also have many of the problems already mentioned.
1. Notification LED. It doesn't work, except when the phone is charging, I get no light for SMS/Email/FB...
2. Games. Some games like Angry Birds Space, Temple Run and others suddenly the touch stops responding. A reboot usually solves this. I don't get what's causing this, as the games state that they are optimized for ICS.
4. Chrome Browser. The browser installs and runs fine, but whenever I click on a text field, the virtual keyboard doesn't show up. I can only use the QWERTY to type letters as the FN, Symbol and other keys don't work, which makes the browser pretty much unable. I can't find a fix, I think it's a application bug.
Overall, I'm satisfied with the update Sony managed to pull, maybe a little later than stated, but they kept their promise. Hope this bugs will be fixed with a new update.
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I agree on you.. I too thought that Sony would mess up ICS..but to my delight ICS runs faster than GB..even with adw launcher installed.. I have loads of RAM and importantly, internal memory free.. Only sore point is when it comes to some games ICS lags.. Towers n trolls is choppy.. But ignoring that..rest is great.. Camera is much better quality wise too..
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Hi,
Hello,
I've been trying to read around but I ended up with nothing.
Can anyone offer suggestions for which ROM i might use.
I've been on stock HC, but got bored with slow speeds and skype playing up... So I just s-off and install stock GB.
Really I want a nice smooth ROM, ideally with pen, hw buttons and root. I don't need any specific OS. But I can't seem to find many non-'stock ROMs that cater for pro-grade which is very important for me.
Any suggestions please. Its late and I've run out of steam for looking.
Thanks,
S.
I'm usually not a fan of "what is the best ROM" threads. But seeing as activity is close to nothing on this forum for some time right now, there aren't really any active threads on the topic, so it seems like a valid question.
When I first switched to HC (must have been way back in late 2011) it seemed to perform close to as smoothly as GB. Really not much different at all in smoothness (insignificant really), despite some people's claims that HC is so laggy compared to GB. Now, I feel the tablet is super laggy. But I think it has more to do with now owning a One X phone since may, which is so much faster, and much better CPU specs. Faster than any Android device on the market when it was released.
At first I thought maybe the ROM had just slowed down over time, and bogged down with processes, apps etc. So I did a full data wipe, and flashed the newest version of the custom ROM I was on. And the performance did not change. So I really do think its just a perception thing.
Now I'm digressing quite a bit from your question. I played around with a few ROMs here and there (mostly earier in the year) and settled on HoneySense. It gives you the option to turn the hardware keys back on, and some other cool features. I don't feel that it makes the tablet any less laggy, even overclocked (maybe just a tiny bit). But I did seem to have a decent gain in idle battery life, which is certainly a good thing.
HC version of LeeDroid is pretty good too. But the app drawer was just too crowded for me. I think the dev was going to make some mods for different app drawer layouts to remedy this, but it never happened AFAIK. Its just a personal taste, you might think its fine.
I also tried the Sense version of IOIDroid for a short time. It had some real potential. Not sure how the dev did it, but it seemed significantly smoother than HoneySense. But there was a few things that were deal breakers for me. It has the AOSP keyboard, (I found this choice a bit odd, since there is also a "Senseless" version of this ROM)where I really prefer the Sense one. Also, I could not get Gmail working, which is a must have for me. Wouldn't even let me install it from the Market.
I never got into the ICS or JB ROMs. Still too many things not working quite right. Development has slowed. But hopefully the dev (Dexter) has not completely left our device.
For fast, lag free and all stuff working use FlyHIGH GB rom. Ull limit yourselves with apps for HC / ICS but hell, rom runs great. I did try HC Leedroid, ICS XXL and JB, LeeDroid GB and ofc stock GB and stock HC. FlyHigh is best for mine usage since on top off all i need phone calls via BT. With good setup ull have good tab look even on GB. I also find out HW keys r awsome compare to HC/ICS/JB low menu buttons. I am missing those a lot on SGT2.
jprednik said:
For fast, lag free and all stuff working use FlyHIGH GB rom. Ull limit yourselves with apps for HC / ICS but hell, rom runs great. I did try HC Leedroid, ICS XXL and JB, LeeDroid GB and ofc stock GB and stock HC. FlyHigh is best for mine usage since on top off all i need phone calls via BT. With good setup ull have good tab look even on GB. I also find out HW keys r awsome compare to HC/ICS/JB low menu buttons. I am missing those a lot on SGT2.
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Is have to use Bluetooth headset for making the phone call on GB 2.3.4 stock Rom on Flyer?
Is any one use Flyer to make phone call without BT as the way cell phone did?
Is FlyHIGH GB rom still need to use the BT to make the phone call?
Hey All,
What is the best stable (full featured) ROM for the x10i? Last ROM I installed was TEAM ROM v4.0 a year ago, recently upgraded to an S3 and am handing down old faithful to my daughter and want to get it running smoothly for her....she is technically inclined so I need something that is G2G no additional flashing or modding required. Any current recommendations appreciated...I realize that most ICS ROMS will be out of the questions...that is fine, GB = Happy. Thanks in advance.
PS - When I wiped the phone the home button lost its binding...working to wake the screen, but not as a multifunction button.
Hi bro,
if you like SONY's UI Achotjan V2 should be the best option, link :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690148
Some bugs was reported (MMS on some provider, Bravia Engine) fixed, try to find it on that thread.
FYI
SFL44 said:
Hey All,
What is the best stable (full featured) ROM for the x10i? Last ROM I installed was TEAM ROM v4.0 a year ago, recently upgraded to an S3 and am handing down old faithful to my daughter and want to get it running smoothly for her....she is technically inclined so I need something that is G2G no additional flashing or modding required. Any current recommendations appreciated...I realize that most ICS ROMS will be out of the questions...that is fine, GB = Happy. Thanks in advance.
PS - When I wiped the phone the home button lost its binding...working to wake the screen, but not as a multifunction button.
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I think the best ROM is donutHD. It's smooth(highest benchmark) and very stable.everything is working
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I agree with Jakuburban. DonatHD 2.2.9 is best GB rom for X10i. Recommendations......
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SFL44 said:
Hey All,
What is the best stable (full featured) ROM for the x10i? Last ROM I installed was TEAM ROM v4.0 a year ago, recently upgraded to an S3 and am handing down old faithful to my daughter and want to get it running smoothly for her....she is technically inclined so I need something that is G2G no additional flashing or modding required. Any current recommendations appreciated...I realize that most ICS ROMS will be out of the questions...that is fine, GB = Happy. Thanks in advance.
PS - When I wiped the phone the home button lost its binding...working to wake the screen, but not as a multifunction button.
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Hay ..
all ROM for Xperia is good, but for ICS and JB there are some bugs. For example, Video Recording. If you intend to try but note that there is a problem faced by other users who have installed first.:silly:
Cm7zmod is the best, hands down. The performance offered by ZMOD eclipses all other gingerbread roms, even donutHD.
Achotjan Stock Remplacement Rom V2 is my best rom :good:
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the best rom is donat hd
its smooth and stable and its jellybean/ics themed , its awesome
Few ROMs Usage - Comments
Hi all,
Just wanted to share a bit of my own personal experience with a few of the X10 roms i tried for some time.
Keep in mind that the daily use was more or less the same for all ROMs and is as follows:
Telephony(calls), data usage (both wifi & 3G), gaming (quite a lot actually), camera (videos + pics), music and even watching videos (rarely).
- Stock 2.3.3: used this for a long time, once it was officially released by SE. When i bought the X10 it had 1.6!! then went to 2.1.
Then i joined the xda family here. Anyways, the overall 2.3.3 rating was that UI is slow and battery drainage is high. (I even charged it twice during a single day!!!)
- CM7-ZMOD-003: used for months. Overall rating was that UI speed is noticeably much faster than stock, but battery drainage is slightly better than with stock 2.3.3.
What i did not like so much was that i had to add another launcher because most toggle widgets i use would not work on the built in loader. Don't know why.
- Then i went back to stock 2.3.3 and tried various themes, launchers (like GO EX, Galaxy S3) but this only made UI much slower (response) and battery drained faster.
The look was nice but as long as you add extra stuff, its only logic that the power drain increases and UI performance decreases.
- FeraLab*** ICS v4 (17/11/2012) - Finally, i wanted to try this (obviously)
Had to learn to unlock BL which was interesting and finally was able to do it ..(after reading carefully - many thanks to all who contribute).
Used it for a month until recently.
The major difference in my case, was that the battery drain was much much less than with any other ROM of the above. This is a major PLUS!.
The only downside was that UI is a little slower but this is expected as the 4.x OS needs more power to sustain, since the X10 was not built for 4.x OS.
Another major factor for me was that, some of the games i played on any 2.x.x OS, will not run on the 4.x OS, like Plants vs Zombies (which is one of my favorites),
I have 3 different apk's saved but either of them work on ICS. Probably they are written for 2.x OS only.
So, now i'm back to stock 2.3.3 and will try a few other candidates that are in xda and see if i finally decide to stay on one, or simply buy a newer phone and more powerful one.
Since i am rather new at all this, i would also like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who contributes to xda in any way.
Just wanted to share something back.
Regards,
Eros
dta1eros said:
Hi all,
Just wanted to share a bit of my own personal experience with a few of the X10 roms i tried for some time.
Keep in mind that the daily use was more or less the same for all ROMs and is as follows:
Telephony(calls), data usage (both wifi & 3G), gaming (quite a lot actually), camera (videos + pics), music and even watching videos (rarely).
- Stock 2.3.3: used this for a long time, once it was officially released by SE. When i bought the X10 it had 1.6!! then went to 2.1.
Then i joined the xda family here. Anyways, the overall 2.3.3 rating was that UI is slow and battery drainage is high. (I even charged it twice during a single day!!!)
- CM7-ZMOD-003: used for months. Overall rating was that UI speed is noticeably much faster than stock, but battery drainage is slightly better than with stock 2.3.3.
What i did not like so much was that i had to add another launcher because most toggle widgets i use would not work on the built in loader. Don't know why.
- Then i went back to stock 2.3.3 and tried various themes, launchers (like GO EX, Galaxy S3) but this only made UI much slower (response) and battery drained faster.
The look was nice but as long as you add extra stuff, its only logic that the power drain increases and UI performance decreases.
- FeraLab*** ICS v4 (17/11/2012) - Finally, i wanted to try this (obviously)
Had to learn to unlock BL which was interesting and finally was able to do it ..(after reading carefully - many thanks to all who contribute).
Used it for a month until recently.
The major difference in my case, was that the battery drain was much much less than with any other ROM of the above. This is a major PLUS!.
The only downside was that UI is a little slower but this is expected as the 4.x OS needs more power to sustain, since the X10 was not built for 4.x OS.
Another major factor for me was that, some of the games i played on any 2.x.x OS, will not run on the 4.x OS, like Plants vs Zombies (which is one of my favorites),
I have 3 different apk's saved but either of them work on ICS. Probably they are written for 2.x OS only.
So, now i'm back to stock 2.3.3 and will try a few other candidates that are in xda and see if i finally decide to stay on one, or simply buy a newer phone and more powerful one.
Since i am rather new at all this, i would also like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who contributes to xda in any way.
Just wanted to share something back.
Regards,
Eros
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If you have the money, go for a new phone. The X10 is more like a ghost these days. Or you could try CM10 by scritch007, which everyone says is really smooth. There's also donutHD, which will give a good stock-based ROM (imo not nearly as smooth as ZMOD, but has better battery life). Or you could try on of the gaming ROMs, those are sure to have the maximum free RAM available..