are there any other developers like cyanogenmod, by this i mean are there any others making ground up, from scratch custom roms for the vigor / rezound?
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are there any other developers like cyanogenmod, by this i mean are there any others making ground up, from scratch custom roms for the vigor / rezound?
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well you have AOKP which is CM with more options. and you have MIUI which is new source based off AOSP.
Team BAMF makes paradigm from straight AOSP as well.
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Team BAMF makes paradigm from straight AOSP as well.
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thought it was also CM but their version. I could be mistaken thanks for the info :good:
well, it seems paradigm is a dead project since apophis took leave, aokp seems stalled.
oh well my current rom is really stable and seems to work nice, i just wanted to try something new and possibly progressive in the sense of i don't know different ui and maybe some cool features.
maybe i should look at miui again, wonder if it is 100% now and the themes are in english, but ironically i like the sense 4 look except i think the devs removed the 3d look or htc did.
still not sure what i am looking for lol
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i did forget to ask, how can i 100% wipe my sdcard with amon ra, when i try to wipe it, i get a error for a system file, blk something with letters and numbers, i have forgotten what it was exactly.
and i keep getting oops something went wrong because of it and it is not making a log file, 3.14 is the latest amon ra?
cm10 project, maybe i will like it more than 9?
also
@synisterwolf
i have a laptop sitting around that could do builds, running ubuntu studio x64 latest version still i believe and i think it has mostly 160gb of free space, my network is about trash, but i might could be persuaded to give ssh or teamviewer access and maybe mirror since it has a lamp server running.
as long as a bf2 aix server sometimes running won't hinder a build.
There a few others, but none as popular. I know imnuts makes Butternutz for the Nexus devices. It wouldn't be difficult to build for vigor. There used to be Gummy, but that team dispersed. The github is still there, but it's not going beyond ICS.
I've been working on a port of Steel Droid, it's loosely based off VanirAOSP/AOKP/Bugless Beast. Can't get the RIL right, got bars and LTE registering but no data/calls/sms.
@snuzzo
cool, i;m sure it will be a success as always.
@shrike
a dead project is a dead rom, unless someone picks it back up lol
still having trouble with amon ra 3.14, how can i 100% wipe my sdcard with amon ra, when i try to wipe it, i get a error for a system file, blk something with letters and numbers, i have forgotten what it was exactly.
and i keep getting oops something went wrong because of it and it is not making a log file, 3.14 is the latest amon ra?
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found 3.15, see if it solves my issue any, it appears to with this in the changelog
Added support for new hboot with internal sd at mmcblk0p38.
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NO ERRORS! finally lol
well i hope this information goes to good use for someone who has the knowledge on how to build a rom, i would very much like to learn how to port the htc sense 4 clock with all of its features, i know there are some that have been done to work with the apex launcher, but they do not flip.
but like i said before i am looking for something different, not really into aosp or aokp, but if something entirely new were to be based on those and always running the latest android version that would be cool, even if the look didn't change often and as long as it could be customized to look however you want, like complete ui theme capability.
maybe i am not making much sense, but i was just thinking, if we could unite all of the devs to work on one project together i think we could have one awesome XDA rom.
i guess forget basing everything on cyanogenmod and sense, let's make our own launcher with different clocks and widgets, XDA devs unite
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thought it was also CM but their version. I could be mistaken thanks for the info :good:
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Paradigm is based off of older cm source.
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Can someone building this app from github? It looks pretty cool, but I don't know how to build nor do I think I have the equipment to.
Thanks!
Link: http://onskreen.com/cornerstone/index.php
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I think I can f*p to this
Developers, please help! , this could help take multitasking on android tablets to a whole new level!
Would like to see this myself!
Thats really really cool, hope the developers here will do a build with ICS with that fantastic experiment!
CyanogenMod team is working in building it into CM9.
Think it's only compatible with ics and gingerbread when ics is more common on devices I think more cooks will add it. I can't believe their is not more interest from dev on this. Cm9 and Thor, are building this into their rom.
Not an APP. This has to be built into the ROM itself. I have been searching for the "user built ROMS" on Onskreen's website but with no luck. CMteam is adding it to CM9 but a flashable zip to drop the right files into the right places would be increadible. This would give most people the option to use what ROM they want and then flash the "Cornerstone into said ROM. I am excited about this.
Including this into the ROMs might make Google decide to pull ROMs out of access to the Android Market I've read.
Not sure if and how this would all pan out.
edit: if CM would include this as an optional package that would remove the risk of excluding ROMs to the market, nice find mtjnkee
work in progress? or already an app ready?
I thunk it'll still a work in progress.
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http://forum.aokp.co/topic/38-build-23-special-onskreen-edition-wifi-only/
Roman from the aokp rom has a special edition of his rom with cornerstone built in. It is buggy (onskreen needs to fix it up a bit), but if you want to test it out here it is. For the wifi 10.1
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CyanogenMod team is working in building it into CM9.
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It's in an overnight build of AOKP--a one-time thing, I believe. It has a long way to go to be generally useable.
Skilover said:
It's in an overnight build of AOKP--a one-time thing, I believe. It has a long way to go to be generally useable.
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Yes but when I made the original post he hadn't included it yet.
Any roms for the a500 with this built in yet. Available now?
I think that once more devices start to implement ICS then we will see a much faster development time for these sort of OS enhancements
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CyanogenMod team is working in building it into CM9.
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For interested readers: plus(dot)google(dot)com/117962666888533781522/posts/bPKE7qtvwC9 CyanogenMod - The Cornerstone Breakup
So IMHO they're more on building an own solution to this, taking Cornerstone as an origin.
If anyone has a Touchpad laying around there is an CM9 Kang ROM with Cornerstone baked in over in the Touchpad development section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501637
Any progress?
Hi, this is a port of the Ligux OS for our x10.
I am not a developer. I just port roms for fun.
My other roms are
Lezo OS port to FXP125.
Laugh OS port to FXP125.
Joy OS port to FXP125.
Mokee OS port to FXP125.
Lewa OS port to FXP125.
Pls check it out.
My sincere thanks to
*FXP Team of FXP122-update-cm-7.2.0-RC2-es209ra-UNOFFICIAL-signed that i used as the base system
*Erenz1202
*And to all those who have been working in x10 to make it a wonderful phone.
Here is the link for download: FXP125_Ligux.
Kernel: FXP125 Kernel.
Here is the link for File and Rom Manager: File and Rom Manager.
Market Links have been updated.
Download Bravia Engine and xLoud if you want.
If you want beat's audio for your rom you can download it from here:Beats Audio
Instructions:
1.Switch off the phone.
2.Flash the given kernel.
3.Go to CWM recovery by pressing the Volume down button when FXP logo shows up during start.
4.Go to Factory Reset/Data Wipe and do the wipe.
5.Wipe the cache partition.
6.Go to Advanced->Wipe Dalvik Cache and Battery Stats.
7.Then go to Flash Custom Rom and flash these files and also Beats audio but preferably after next boot.
8.Thats all your phone will boot into Ligux OS.
Working: Almost everything.
Build.prop heavily tweaked.
Bugs: Camcorder lags. It will be the same unless FXP gives a fix.
It has a beautiful UI. You people will love it.
For Xperia launcher go to this link.
For playing high end games without any glitches, download Chainfire 3D and plugins from here. All the instructions are given there.
The screenshots are given below. I will also upload roms on Joy OS,Lezo OS, Lewa OS and Laugh OS based on the latest FXP and respective OS out there in a few days time as some apps need translation.
A sincere THANKS would be appreciated and would further increase my interest in creating roms
MIUI please...
version of android???
2.3.7
How does it run?
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I don't mean to be rude, but why are all these so called OS'es?
It runs on Android 2.x or something, which is the real Operating System.
Suddenly I see all kinds of OS popping up, but I don't understand what they are.
As far as I understand they change a bit of look and feel, something that also can be done by theming the known ROMs, or maybe you can compare it with the layers that SE, HTC and other manufacturers apply to Android to make it their own. But I'm sure they aren't an OS.
So, for what other reason are these 'OS' interesting?
IMHO: Cyanogen, MIUI, AOSP, AOKP are the foundations of all these so called OS'es. Or am i missing something here, and do all these OS'es really differ from each other and stand out in some way?
Again, I don't mean to be disruptive in any way.
Kind regards.
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I don't mean to be rude, but why are all these so called OS'es?
It runs on Android 2.x or something, which is the real Operating System.
Suddenly I see all kinds of OS popping up, but I don't understand what they are.
As far as I understand they change a bit of look and feel, something that also can be done by theming the known ROMs, or maybe you can compare it with the layers that SE, HTC and other manufacturers apply to Android to make it their own. But I'm sure they aren't an OS.
So, for what other reason are these 'OS' interesting?
IMHO: Cyanogen, MIUI, AOSP, AOKP are the foundations of all these so called OS'es. Or am i missing something here, and do all these OS'es really differ from each other and stand out in some way?
Again, I don't mean to be disruptive in any way.
Kind regards.
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i second that...the motivation behind all this releases is pretty, but maybe we should see some narrowing, focusing on one kind of rom and developing it as far as it could.
panggilakuantok said:
MIUI please...
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+1 for that! =)
Ultimategeppie said:
I don't mean to be rude, but why are all these so called OS'es?
It runs on Android 2.x or something, which is the real Operating System.
Suddenly I see all kinds of OS popping up, but I don't understand what they are.
As far as I understand they change a bit of look and feel, something that also can be done by theming the known ROMs, or maybe you can compare it with the layers that SE, HTC and other manufacturers apply to Android to make it their own. But I'm sure they aren't an OS.
So, for what other reason are these 'OS' interesting?
IMHO: Cyanogen, MIUI, AOSP, AOKP are the foundations of all these so called OS'es. Or am i missing something here, and do all these OS'es really differ from each other and stand out in some way?
Again, I don't mean to be disruptive in any way.
Kind regards.
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The sites featuring the source roms advertise them as OS's only like www.joyos.cn,www.lewaos.com. So only named them as OS's.
Nice work!
Good job, and call it however you feel.
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Ultimategeppie said:
I don't mean to be rude, but why are all these so called OS'es?
It runs on Android 2.x or something, which is the real Operating System.
Suddenly I see all kinds of OS popping up, but I don't understand what they are.
As far as I understand they change a bit of look and feel, something that also can be done by theming the known ROMs, or maybe you can compare it with the layers that SE, HTC and other manufacturers apply to Android to make it their own. But I'm sure they aren't an OS.
So, for what other reason are these 'OS' interesting?
IMHO: Cyanogen, MIUI, AOSP, AOKP are the foundations of all these so called OS'es. Or am i missing something here, and do all these OS'es really differ from each other and stand out in some way?
Again, I don't mean to be disruptive in any way.
Kind regards.
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i would just suggest releasing them all in a single thread...
just replacing the framework and app folder is not really development... but yes i do appreciate the large number of ROMs available for this old phone
and yeah it keeps the activity on the dev forum high anyways....
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i would just suggest releasing them all in a single thread...
just replacing the framework and app folder is not really development... but yes i do appreciate the large number of ROMs available for this old phone
and yeah it keeps the activity on the dev forum high anyways....
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Ya bro sure from my next updates, will keep it in a same thread.. thats wat i planned in this release but due to some work i forgot about it
testing.....so far found that flashing one of the xtras ie: beats or xloud or bravia stops the device from booting gets to the ligux animation then freezes havnt pinpointed which one it is yet and when accessing tbe display settings in CM MODE it force closes. other than that the testing is going well, speed is good stability is good
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Come ON!
Ultimategeppie said:
I don't mean to be rude, but why are all these so called OS'es?
It runs on Android 2.x or something, which is the real Operating System.
Suddenly I see all kinds of OS popping up, but I don't understand what they are.
As far as I understand they change a bit of look and feel, something that also can be done by theming the known ROMs, or maybe you can compare it with the layers that SE, HTC and other manufacturers apply to Android to make it their own. But I'm sure they aren't an OS.
So, for what other reason are these 'OS' interesting?
IMHO: Cyanogen, MIUI, AOSP, AOKP are the foundations of all these so called OS'es. Or am i missing something here, and do all these OS'es really differ from each other and stand out in some way?
Again, I don't mean to be disruptive in any way.
Kind regards.
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when everything goes fine, there's always someone to ruin it!
yeah they are different from each other, you just need to try them to notice that! stop being so negative guys!
i'll try this ROM and report back later, good job man!
bug update:
only found one more bug and it is in the sms app cant access sms settings from left hand key button it force closes
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also found when a text.message is received and you go into message app theres chinese text above the new message
everything else is spot on, battery life is good
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dunc4n88 said:
bug update:
only found one more bug and it is in the sms app cant access sms settings from left hand key button it force closes
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Okay i will see to it and fix in the next release
kernal
can we use doomkernal with this rom?
ash5618 said:
can we use doomkernal with this rom?
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sorry but nope its a cm7 based rom and needs the fxp kernel to run it
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How hard is porting roms from the att HTC one x to the rezound? Please don't go to hard on me. Just was curious. Seems a lot of devs that are here also are on HTC one x. Awesome phone but sucks not having s-off and no expandable memory
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I would think it would take some effort and knowledge to port a rom and have it run up to standards. So probably not that easy.
Thank you Jon. Just was curious cause I have both phones. The one x is very snappy but the rezound us alot more fun to. Dev with.
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Actually i just looked and found a guide to porting a sense rom in between devices. It actually doesnt look that hard, it looks more like replacing just replacing files if anything. I think it just depends on what rom your trying too port. If your trying to port over a different sense version it might require more work. If your trying to port an AOSP rom it might not be too difficult. Porting an android version is probably the hardest.
I see. Would be nice to try figure out that stuff. I am too inexperienced to try I think. Done minor things. Was just seeing if the one xl jellybean update that dropped last night would help the devs over here.
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I was actually thinking of making a very basic rom to start with like a sense 3.6 rom that might have some tweaks and such. Maybe try making my own AOSP rom, though im not entirely sure how to go about making an AOSP rom. I suppose i could also try using the guide i found to port over a sense rom as well.
Wanna share where that guide is?
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http://www.xda-developers.com/android/port-sense-roms-between-sense-devices-in-six-easy-steps/
I havent tried it yet, it might work.
This one may work out better
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
Just keep in mind when porting, it will be better as well as easier if you can port from a device similar to what you are porting too. Similar cpus, gpus, lte, screen resolution and network type. It all needs to be taken into consideration.
Personally if I was you, I'd start looking at Sprint devices if you want to port to the Rezound. Sprint and Verizon have the closest devices and the closest bands of any other providers out there.
Of course there are always tricks to getting around porting a full rom. Once you get to going and learn your way around porting real good, you'll learn what they are and how to do it. If you need an example of this, look up my AOKP + TouchWiz hybrid for the Rezound.
Edit: This thread made me feel nastalgic. I remember back when I first started porting. I worked and worked hard learning new tricks here and there. Back then I wrote a guide. It wouldn't be useful now, but if you wanted to humor me and see how this old dog did it back in the day you should check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169570
wildstang83 said:
Just keep in mind when porting, it will be better as well as easier if you can port from a device similar to what you are porting too. Similar cpus, gpus, lte, screen resolution and network type. It all needs to be taken into consideration.
Personally if I was you, I'd start looking at Sprint devices if you want to port to the Rezound. Sprint and Verizon have the closest devices and the closest bands of any other providers out there.
Of course there are always tricks to getting around porting a full rom. Once you get to going and learn your way around porting real good, you'll learn what they are and how to do it. If you need an example of this, look up my AOKP + TouchWiz hybrid for the Rezound.
Edit: This thread made me feel nastalgic. I remember back when I first started porting. I worked and worked hard learning new tricks here and there. Back then I wrote a guide. It wouldn't be useful now, but if you wanted to humor me and see how this old dog did it back in the day you should check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169570
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Thanks wildstang for the advice, Ill probably try just porting a rom that is really basic. Which phone do you recommend attempting to port a rom from for beginners?
jon7701 said:
Which phone do you recommend attempting to port a rom from for beginners?
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One X or Evo 4G LTE.
jon7701 said:
Thanks wildstang for the advice, Ill probably try just porting a rom that is really basic. Which phone do you recommend attempting to port a rom from for beginners?
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Snuzzo's on it
Snuzzo said:
One X or Evo 4G LTE.
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Alright, I found a One X rom that looks interesting, I might give it an attempt. :good:
Edit: Just finished porting the rom, it doesnt boot or even show anything on my screen, but it installed. Trying something different.
jon7701 said:
Alright, I found a One X rom that looks interesting, I might give it an attempt. :good:
Edit: Just finished porting the rom, it doesnt boot or even show anything on my screen, but it installed. Trying something different.
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Ok, so it did not error in recovery right?
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Ok, so it did not error in recovery right?
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It did but i figured out the problem. I didnt expect the rom to work since i tried porting the 4.2 rom from the One X. :silly: Ill try a sense 4 or 4.1 rom later.
Does anyone know if Team Synergy will be making a rom for the Vzw Note 2??
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I loved Synergy on GS3, was my daily driver. Would love to see it here but I doubt it
I wish...
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lol you guys...how many stock based touchwiz roms do we need? you guys realize all these roms are completely stock that have been themed and modded. with a little intuition, those mods can be done yourself. take a stock odin image, place it in dsixdas kitchen, add your mods, package it up, and you now have the same thing posted in 90% of the sgs3 forum.
What is dsixdas???
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Just Googled it.... Now I want to build Roms..... Gonna have to try this.
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Team Synergy put out some sick tweaks for my old HTC devices (sprint). Haven't used them in over a year but would love to see some more action over here whether its "stock" based tweaks or not. They may even dabble in some AOSP. Not sure.
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As droidstyle said, customized stock roms are basically, well - stock based roms with build.prop/init.d tweaks. I like to go back to stock deodexed Verizon rom and debloat/tweak the rom myself because that's where I find the most fun. Custom Touchwiz roms seem to take that fun away from me
Also, search the internet, there's plenty of info on lists of build.prop and init.d tweaks that boost performance and save battery on your phone.
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lol you guys...how many stock based touchwiz roms do we need? you guys realize all these roms are completely stock that have been themed and modded. with a little intuition, those mods can be done yourself. take a stock odin image, place it in dsixdas kitchen, add your mods, package it up, and you now have the same thing posted in 90% of the sgs3 forum.
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Oh my. A voice of reason!!!!
DroidOnRoids said:
As droidstyle said, customized stock roms are basically, well - stock based roms with build.prop/init.d tweaks. I like to go back to stock deodexed Verizon rom and debloat/tweak the rom myself because that's where I find the most fun. Custom Touchwiz roms seem to take that fun away from me
Also, search the internet, there's plenty of info on lists of build.prop and init.d tweaks that boost performance and save battery on your phone.
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Most of which are snake oil, like a lot of performance tweaks devs claim to put in.
I say we open up a donation thread so we can get Team Synergy on board!! Their roms are sooo bad ass!! LOL Just kidding guys! :silly:
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lol you guys...how many stock based touchwiz roms do we need? you guys realize all these roms are completely stock that have been themed and modded. with a little intuition, those mods can be done yourself. take a stock odin image, place it in dsixdas kitchen, add your mods, package it up, and you now have the same thing posted in 90% of the sgs3 forum.
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As many as possible, it's called variety. I'm busy and I don't want to do the mods myself.... I like donating to devs to do it for me...that's why most of us are here.
Also one of the great things about Synergy for the GS3 was the nightly builds. Again, I didn't have to do the work myself, received nightly updates/tweaks and simply donated to compensate for their time and work.
Personally, I figure the more devs working on the Verizon Note 2 the better regardless of what they use as a base for their ROM.
You can only do so much with a zip rom. Nightly builds are pretty ridiculous for zip roms. If nightly builds actually did something notable, the rom would be completely rewritten from scratch within a month.
It simply doesn't happen and is misleading.
Here is what I have seen from nightly builds of zip roms:
1. Nothing changes from one build to the next.
2. Things are broken, then fixed, broken, then fixed. However, nothing is actually accomplished.
3. Why are we calling them builds? They aren't building crap except maybe an apk or two.
adrynalyne said:
You can only do so much with a zip rom. Nightly builds are pretty ridiculous for zip roms. If nightly builds actually did something notable, the rom would be completely rewritten from scratch within a month.
It simply doesn't happen and is misleading.
Here is what I have seen from nightly builds of zip roms:
1. Nothing changes from one build to the next.
2. Things are broken, then fixed, broken, then fixed. However, nothing is actually accomplished.
3. Why are we calling them builds? They aren't building crap except maybe an apk or two.
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I totally agree with you. I had the GS3 and ran pretty much every ROM available for it while I had it. Nothing against Team Synergy, but their ROM always had some type of issue or another. Which I thought was insane for a stock based ROM.
And then the nightlies started happening and like you said, things would break and then be fixed, etc. I finally just gave up and started running CleanROM and Beans. Both were more stable and to be honest, performed better.
I never got the lovefest for the Synergy ROM on the GS3, but that's just me.
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I also don't have the time to do this myself either. I work 50 odd hours a week and have two kiddos. I also have no idea what I am doing. I would love to learn more about all of this. If someone can put up a link for a good starting point to learn that would be awesome.
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adrynalyne said:
You can only do so much with a zip rom. Nightly builds are pretty ridiculous for zip roms. If nightly builds actually did something notable, the rom would be completely rewritten from scratch within a month.
It simply doesn't happen and is misleading.
Here is what I have seen from nightly builds of zip roms:
1. Nothing changes from one build to the next.
2. Things are broken, then fixed, broken, then fixed. However, nothing is actually accomplished.
3. Why are we calling them builds? They aren't building crap except maybe an apk or two.
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Nobody forces you to download nightlies. I do agree that at some point the nightlies can start doing more harm than good but it's up to the end user to know when it's time to get off the train. I've only ever had good experiences with devs who produce nightlies. If I felt like I was getting a service from nightlies, I donated, if not, I didn't. Simple as that.
Whether you feel forced to download them or not is irrelevant. They are quite pointless.
So if these arguments hold up, there should only be two or three roms per device. Touchwiz (or whatever ui is used by the manufacturer), AOSP or AOKP. Everything else is just tweaks and build prop edits. Not understanding the arguments here. Especially from other devs.
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So if these arguments hold up, there should only be two or three roms per device. Touchwiz (or whatever ui is used by the manufacturer), AOSP or AOKP. Everything else is just tweaks and build prop edits. Not understanding the arguments here. Especially from other devs.
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I haven't looked to see what other devs are saying, but the only thing I said was that nightlies for a zip rom are 100% pointless.
Source built roms are different.
adrynalyne said:
Whether you feel forced to download them or not is irrelevant. They are quite pointless.
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Maybe to you, but they were far from pointless to myself and many others.
Good Morning to you all!
Sorry if this has already been posted but I couldn't find much of anything on this topic. Does a "Google Edition" Rom exist for the EVO 4G LTE? I know we have the AOSP and AOKP roms but this is something I've wanted to ask for a while. I love the pure Google experience and I just have to wait about a year until i can upgrade to a new phone like a Nexus.
Thank you again for taking the the time to read this and for all the awesome work all you Developers put in for making this awesome phone even better.
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No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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I'm with you on that one. Not sure why anyone with knowledge of rooting (who doesn't mind a voided warranty) would want to buy a GE phone.
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I don't have any problem with any AOSP Rom other than signal and connectivity issues. But its really just curiosity for me and I'm a big fan of Google so the idea of having a Google Editon EVO sounds cool to me.
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Well it won't happen.
And aosp is just as much Google as a GE would be.
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Imagine having a GE ROM that had added functionality and customizations. Then, go download one of our CM/AOKP/DU ROMs. - imagination realized.
Or, put another way, take one of our AOSP ROMs, strip away functionality and customization, and you have a GE ROM.
Is that what you're looking for?
Not trying to sound smart ass, totally sincere.
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scottspa74 said:
Imagine having a GE ROM that had added functionality and customizations. Then, go download one of our CM/AOKP/DU ROMs. - imagination realized.
Or, put another way, take one of our AOSP ROMs, strip away functionality and customization, and you have a GE ROM.
Is that what you're looking for?
Not trying to sound smart ass, totally sincere.
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What do you think would be a good solid AOSP Rom to either behave like a GE Rom or better I've only tried the CM Rom and the Xlyon Rom back and forth and couldn't get the feel I was looking for.
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ZamoraDC said:
What do you think would be a good solid AOSP Rom to either behave like a GE Rom or better I've only tried the CM Rom and the Xlyon Rom back and forth and couldn't get the feel I was looking for.
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You could always try Evervolv. That's probably the closest to AOSP, that is, with the least customization.
Captain_Throwback said:
No. But the AOSP ROMs we have work fine. What's wrong with flashing one of them? They are essentially the same thing, except, well, better .
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Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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How difficult is this to do?
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ZamoraDC said:
How difficult is this to do?
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I can't say.
For the DNA it was extremely simple (but zarboz is a boss so he would've gotten it anyway) since the two devices are almost identical (One and DNA).
But the fact that you guys have a 3.4.x official HTC kernel should help.
hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary.
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You would be surprised at what shortcuts OEMs take too.
Just because they have the resources doesn't necessarily mean it's cost effective, or that their software engineers have the time, to redo everything from scratch for each device. It's usually much easier to make it for one and then adapt that copy for use on other devices. I actually found this site thanks to htc's sloppy implementation of hdmi on the original evo. According to them it was impossible to fix until Toastcfh and Netarchy did just that and rewrote their kernel from scratch (iirc).
If you think about it, this site probably wouldn't even exist if OEMs made good software. They often do have access to proprietary drivers and documentation, but most of that is slowly getting open sourced anyway.
That type of reasoning is a fallacy because more often then not OEMs are just too plain cheap to do things properly. They just need to hit their deadlines. So your only real options are to either buy a nexus device, or invest a little time in helping fix any issues that you may find.
Someone please correct me if I'm thinking of the wrong device, but I believe it was the htc TyTN2 where htc didn't even bother to include a fully functional display driver because they didn't want to pay the license for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359534
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Not true. Not trying to insult any devs in any way, but AOSP roms for anything other than a Nexus are hacked together using core binaries from other devices when necessary. There is never such a thing as a bug free AOSP Rom, except for a Google device and/or Google edition.
The Google edition roms on the other hand, were compiled by HTC for a device that they know in and out. Unfortunately, this is one of those times when "the vendor knows best", simply because of sheer resources and hardware documentation.
It would be possible to port the GE roms if you guys ported the GPE kernel and used that to port the rom, like Zarboz and newtoroot did for the DNA.
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Have you ever used one of the IRC builds of cm10 or cm10.1? They're more stable and are more feature rich than the stock ROM that shipped with this device or any of the updates that they were gracious enough to let sense users download over the air. The 3.0 kernel was seriously stable, but the 3.4 kernel is (nearly as) stable _and_ leaves more RAM for your silly animation effects and whatever. It's based on the reference kernel for the chip set, if I'm not making an arse of myself. So pick a build. I know 1/16 was an awesome cm10, and like I said in another topic I had 191 hours uptime on the 7/23 cm10.1 before I rebooted to rule out the ROM when I was having data issues(it was the network) </rant>
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xHausx said:
You would be surprised at what shortcuts OEMs take too.
Just because they have the resources doesn't necessarily mean it's cost effective, or that their software engineers have the time, to redo everything from scratch for each device. It's usually much easier to make it for one and then adapt that copy for use on other devices. I actually found this site thanks to htc's sloppy implementation of hdmi on the original evo. According to them it was impossible to fix until Toastcfh and Netarchy did just that and rewrote their kernel from scratch (iirc).
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Not saying they are perfect and neither am I taking sides. But the fact of the matter is that AOSP is ported using binaries made for other devices and other hacks and so is nearly impossible to make it 100% compared to vanilla nexus roms. Issues are inevitable. And those same exact shortcuts you stated apply to and are no exception with AOSP ports like CM or evervolv. They also commonize (not a word, I know) as much as possible. They group devices like all the d2 and all the jflte, or even by processor like s4_common, etc under one common branch to make it easier for themselves to maintain.
I know I'm not gonna win here because of several things, namely being that I'm taking the "wrong" stance from the majority's point of view. But I just felt adding my 0.02 would help with the OP's original question.
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Someone please correct me if I'm thinking of the wrong device, but I believe it was the htc TyTN2 where htc didn't even bother to include a fully functional display driver because they didn't want to pay the license for it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359534
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Ha! That was my first smartphone! I first signed up on xda (under a different name) when that phone launched (I got it as the att tilt) so that I could run manila and then android on it! That display driver issue was so frustrating. Sorry for ot, but I haven't thought about that in ages.
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Not saying they are perfect and neither am I taking sides. But the fact of the matter is that AOSP is ported using binaries made for other devices and other hacks and so is nearly impossible to make it 100% compared to vanilla nexus roms. Issues are inevitable. And those same exact shortcuts you stated apply to and are no exception with AOSP ports like CM or evervolv. They also commonize (not a word, I know) as much as possible. They group devices like all the d2 and all the jflte, or even by processor like s4_common, etc under one common branch to make it easier for themselves to maintain.
I know I'm not gonna win here because of several things, namely being that I'm taking the "wrong" stance from the majority's point of view. But I just felt adding my 0.02 would help with the OP's original question.
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It's not accurate to say the binaries are made for other devices when the devices are all basically the same. The MSM8960, for example, has it's own binaries, but the same chip is used in a range of devices from the Evo LTE, Blackberry Z10, One X (LTE), One XL, Windows Phone 8X, LG Mach, Moto Droid Razr M, Droid Razr, Razr Max, Atrix HD, Incredible HD, Xperia GX TL SX & V, Galaxy S III... the list goes on
The binaries all of those devices use were developed for the Qualcomm devkit I've linked below.
When you're working with a sense ROM versus an AOSP ROM there are many differences in not only appearance but the framework as well, but once you start getting down to the kernel level the hardware is all basically the same. Where we have the advantage over OEMs is that most companies know it's counterproductive and a waste of money to go after enthusiasts who borrow their binaries from one device to use on something else. If an OEM did that they would be sued in a heartbeat.
https://developer.qualcomm.com/mobile-development/development-devices/snapdragon-s4-msm8960-mdps
edit: probably actually this instead, but same difference: http://shop.intrinsyc.com/products/dragonboard-members-only
To digress back to the OP's original question though, the google edition One is basically just the one with AOSP on it. If you can find a pure AOSP ROM it'll be the exact same thing.
Thanks for the info I'm really thinking of seeing if i can try and make my own ROM and plus I've always wanted to do so hopefully it all goes well. I just don't wanna brick my phone in the process hahaha. Do you guys think trying to build off of the HTC One GE rom and convert it over to the EVO or use an EVO based AOSP ROM? Thanks again for all the help.
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ZamoraDC said:
Thanks for the info I'm really thinking of seeing if i can try and make my own ROM and plus I've always wanted to do so hopefully it all goes well. I just don't wanna brick my phone in the process hahaha. Do you guys think trying to build off of the HTC One GE rom and convert it over to the EVO or use an EVO based AOSP ROM? Thanks again for all the help.
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Why don't you just build AOSP? You can use the CM kernel and pull the relevant vendor files from an existing AOSP ROM (or find an up-to-date github with them).
That way you don't have to worry about having the extra customizations, but you'll still have a kernel built from Qualcomm source along with the ROM.
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I have tried a lot of ROMs and I find these devs do a much better job than stock ROMs yes you have some bugs in some but the always work them out cudos to the devs I'm just glad they still support my device and having gabe up on it