What are the challenges to porting Android to the Lumia?
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Challenges are alot of dev time is needed and there needs to be enough interest, It may well be in the pipeline already but I think a newer Android build would run poorly on the single core and 512mb ram, I know it has been done on the Nokia N9 but assume the bootloader is totally different on the lumia and would involve some kind of HSPL before you could install any custom ROMs.
changelog only happens when there is port for android , there is no android port for 800 till now
AndyFZ1S said:
Challenges are alot of dev time is needed and there needs to be enough interest, It may well be in the pipeline already but I think a newer Android build would run poorly on the single core and 512mb ram, I know it has been done on the Nokia N9 but assume the bootloader is totally different on the lumia and would involve some kind of HSPL before you could install any custom ROMs.
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And the Nokia N9 has 1gb ram. and even there, the latest nitdroid isn't really smooth...
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Dear Devs i have a question for you - is there any way to port windows phone mango 7.5 ??
Areg8_6 said:
Dear Devs i have a question for you - is there any way to port windows mango 7.5 ??
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The short answer is no. The easiest way for ports to be made is to use similar/identical hardware that is running the desired platform. Therefore seeing as there isn't any similar hardware running WP7.5 then it would be insanely hard.
Areg8_6 said:
Dear Devs i have a question for you - is there any way to port windows phone mango 7.5 ??
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1. WP7 is a closed-source operating system, its hard to modify it like implementing other drivers.
2. The exynos processor is a very unique component, no wp7 phone uses such a processor, its a hard workt to rewrite nearly the whole os.
and these are only 2 arguments, why we will never get wp7 on our sgs2.
Hollow.Droid said:
The short answer is no. The easiest way for ports to be made is to use similar/identical hardware that is running the desired platform. Therefore seeing as there isn't any similar hardware running WP7.5 then it would be insanely hard.
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Silberpfeil3110 said:
1. WP7 is a closed-source operating system, its hard to modify it like implementing other drivers.
2. The exynos processor is a very unique component, no wp7 phone uses such a processor, its a hard workt to rewrite nearly the whole os.
and these are only 2 arguments, why we will never get wp7 on our sgs2.
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thanx for quick reply , i didn't know that windows is closed-source and it's so hardware demanded.
The one and only not-WP7-phones to run a Windows Phone are HD2 and Toshiba TG-01. Those are WM phones and I don't think that it's possible for any Android device to run WP7.
And I used it quite a bit when I still had my HD2. Believe me-Android is way better .
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The one and only not-WP7-phones to run a Windows Phone are HD2 and Toshiba TG-01. Those are WM phones and I don't think that it's possible for any Android device to run WP7.
And I used it quite a bit when I still had my HD2. Believe me-Android is way better .
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Yeah Android is better, i was just interested ...
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I have beem looking around the forums now for a while regarding this issue.
I would like to know if it would be possible to run Andoid ICS on current WP7 Hardware. Seeing as nearly all the 1st an 2nd gen devices share the same hardware , I was wondering would it be possible to create a generic ICS rom that would work on most WP7 Hardware.
And another question i have is is it even going to be possible to swap out the bootloader for a unlocked (maybe dual boot function) one?
I'm currently using a Nokia Lumia 800, and this question has been asked in the lumia 800 thread. But all we seem to be getting is people who are saying it shouldn't be done and/or it can't be done.
So now to all the devs out there, What is the likelyhood of an android port arriving on A nokia lumia or simular WP7 devices
ahahaha, it would be great!!! it's impossible even if the hardware is similar to android phone. you should change all the bootloader, and there isn't MAGRL for Windows Phone 7. But someone could succeed
Hi,
i am interested in buying an Lumia 800 but i do not have any knowledge or experience with windows phone. I just want to try this system and the Nokia devices have a very good navigation software and a good camera. How big is the chance that a WP8 Rom will come to the Lumia 800?
Normally i use a Galaxy S3 and just want to buy a second device to play around and test somthing new. So please excuse my noob question. The L800 will cost around 200€ without a contract and i think its a nice alternative to my Samsung.
thanks a lot
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its not going to happen the most you will get is wp 7.8 only the new line of lumias will have w8
if i were you buy the 820 or 920
rob:good:
I would like to buy them but they are too expensive just for testing and playing around. Is it impossible because of the hardware specifications or that there will be no WP8 Source Code available which can be customized with drivers etc. ?
Not possible mate..though u can have a word around here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966327
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Hi,
Even if someone ports a WP8 for a current WP7 device he/she would have to disable all the specific WP8 functionalities which requires higher hardware specification (Dual core CPU and all) so it would be kind of a 7.8 with very marginal improvements.
So I dont think there would be much of a gain in trying to port in WP8 to 800
just my 2 cents and I can be completely wrong
Hee!,
I am an engeneering student and I do not think it is already fair to say porting WP8 will be posible, or not. It is true that the hardware of our current Windows Phone device doesnt reach the Microsoft hardware minimum for windows 8 device. Although this is their minimum, wich not only concludes the ´needings of the system´ but also ´marketings minimums´, for example: who would upgrade to a WP8 device if it is slower?
So not having the minimum hardware requirment doesnt really mean it is imposible to run WP8. Although it requirs a lot of porting and I am not sure if somebody will succees doing it.
Also one last point to mention, as you can find on the forum you can not update all Lumia 800 devices, depends on your bootloader, wich you cant know when you buy it on Ebay.
Does anybody know when Lumia 800 will get an official WP7.8 update? And will it be available in Europe?
they say , in the mittle of December...
chh2807 said:
Normally i use a Galaxy S3 and just want to buy a second device to play around and test somthing new
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Lumia phones are mostly phones as some testing tweaking devices. So i'm wondering, what you expect, as long as 800 is flashable only with qualcomm bootloader. New ones have only Dload, which is not hacked yet. Lumias are not like androids - completly different ROMs, patches, flashable apps,... Lumias are great, fast, reliable phones. Not for messing around.
i think you will try lumia920 or lumia820/822,lumia800 only have wp7.8
I have just ordered an nokia lumia 800 windows phone.. is it possible to install google play store on it?
And is it possible to install android os on it??
im asking because i read it. and if possible,can u tell me how?
Thank u!
tonymb91 said:
I have just ordered an nokia lumia 800 windows phone.. is it possible to install google play store on it?
And is it possible to install android os on it??
im asking because i read it. and if possible,can u tell me how?
Thank u!
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No and no. I don't know where you read that, I just hope you didn't buy the phone relying on that info, heh...at the moment there's no way to do that. Maybe you're talking about the N9?
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aha.nono, i buyed it because it was cheap, and i just sold my s2.. i just worrie a little going to a new phone,since i know everything about rooting,changing roms and so on the android platform, while the windows im totally noob.. i did see the n9 running ics i belive. why cant the lumia 800 do it and the n9 can? i read about it on the internet that the lumis was close to getting android ported. this article was old i think, so i was woundering if they where finished porting!
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aha.nono, i buyed it because it was cheap, and i just sold my s2.. i just worrie a little going to a new phone,since i know everything about rooting,changing roms and so on the android platform, while the windows im totally noob.. i did see the n9 running ics i belive. why cant the lumia 800 do it and the n9 can? i read about it on the internet that the lumis was close to getting android ported. this article was old i think, so i was woundering if they where finished porting!
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Well I haven't heard anything about it so far. All we can have right now for our Lumias are custom roms with a few tweaks, however you'll be able to flash those only if you have the qualcomm bootloader, and this is mostly luck based, because it depends on the hardware revision of your specific device. Speaking of Android ports instead I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you...
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vnvman said:
Well I haven't heard anything about it so far. All we can have right now for our Lumias are custom roms with a few tweaks, however you'll be able to flash those only if you have the qualcomm bootloader, and this is mostly luck based, because it depends on the hardware revision of your specific device. Speaking of Android ports instead I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you...
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oki.just woundering. think i will like the windows os. good too change. i dont like ios, and i have had android phone for a long time. if i like the 800 i will get the 920 later.. how is the appstore at the lumia 800, good games and apps? i really dont care if they have fewer apps than ios and android. i only have like 10-15 apps on my phones anyway. just want the regular games that are popular today
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oki.just woundering. think i will like the windows os. good too change. i dont like ios, and i have had android phone for a long time. if i like the 800 i will get the 920 later.. how is the appstore at the lumia 800, good games and apps? i really dont care if they have fewer apps than ios and android. i only have like 10-15 apps on my phones anyway. just want the regular games that are popular today
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Well it mostly depends on which particular apps you need...but in terms of games you'll probably be disappointed, don't expect to find stuff like Nova 3 I mean, but if you look for simple puzzle games like Cut the rope you should be ok. The top games will be available soon on WP8 devices tho.
vnvman said:
Well it mostly depends on which particular apps you need...but in terms of games you'll probably be disappointed, don't expect to find stuff like Nova 3 I mean, but if you look for simple puzzle games like Cut the rope you should be ok. The top games will be available soon on WP8 devices tho.
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And te lumia 800 does not get windows 8 i guess?
And,is it possible to overclock the nokia like ive done with my samsung galaxy s2?
tonymb91 said:
And te lumia 800 does not get windows 8 i guess?
And,is it possible to overclock the nokia like ive done with my samsung galaxy s2?
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Nope, it will get 7.8 and probably another update in the future (like 7.9 or something). Obviously this OS is much more locked down compared to Android, so you can't fiddle too much with it, like overclocking and stuff like that. However the OS is fully optimized for the hardware, so you don't really need to do anything in order to achieve smoothness and speed: the performance is optimal out of the box, unlike on some older Android devices. I had the GS2 as well before switching to WP, I haven't looked back since then. Trust me, you'll soon realize how great it is to simply USE your phone with no headaches.
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Nope, it will get 7.8 and probably another update in the future (like 7.9 or something). Obviously this OS is much more locked down compared to Android, so you can't fiddle too much with it, like overclocking and stuff like that. However the OS is fully optimized for the hardware, so you don't really need to do anything in order to achieve smoothness and speed: the performance is optimal out of the box, unlike on some older Android devices. I had the GS2 as well before switching to WP, I haven't looked back since then. Trust me, you'll soon realize how great it is to simply USE your phone with no headaches.
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yes,i have noticed how polished the os is.. i just read a article about the lumia 800 and a htc windows device. the phone had same specs, but the htc was clocked at 1,5 and the lumia 800 at 1.4 ghz,and the testers said that the htc was just that littlebi faster and smooter. im shour i will be satisfied wih wp 7, even though i have ordered one of the weakes devices in the lumia 800.. but as far as ive seen it, even with an singlecore prossesor the devise is very fast.. gonna go for the 920 later if im satisfied with the 800 what about roms? is it some roms that will acutally benifitt me to install? i dont care to mutch about just minor added settings to the phone. but if its a rom that actually makes the phone faster or something,please let me know. i know everything about android phones like rooting,installing roms,and so on. but i really feel like a bad ass noob at the windows phone platform
THank u!
tonymb91 said:
yes,i have noticed how polished the os is.. i just read a article about the lumia 800 and a htc windows device. the phone had same specs, but the htc was clocked at 1,5 and the lumia 800 at 1.4 ghz,and the testers said that the htc was just that littlebi faster and smooter. im shour i will be satisfied wih wp 7, even though i have ordered one of the weakes devices in the lumia 800.. but as far as ive seen it, even with an singlecore prossesor the devise is very fast.. gonna go for the 920 later if im satisfied with the 800 what about roms? is it some roms that will acutally benifitt me to install? i dont care to mutch about just minor added settings to the phone. but if its a rom that actually makes the phone faster or something,please let me know. i know everything about android phones like rooting,installing roms,and so on. but i really feel like a bad ass noob at the windows phone platform
THank u!
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Well there are a few cool things you can do with a custom ROM. For example you can sideload third party apps (without using the marketplace), remap your search key, use different search engines, wake the phone with any button, customize the ui and more. However keep in mind that no speed improvements or RAM tweaks whatever are available at the moment. Have look here if you wanna know more, this one of the ROM threads. I'd give it a try for sure but since I did a manual update a while ago I have the Nokia bootloader so I'm stuck here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1665651
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Well there are a few cool things you can do with a custom ROM. For example you can sideload third party apps (without using the marketplace), remap your search key, use different search engines, wake the phone with any button, customize the ui and more. However keep in mind that no speed improvements or RAM tweaks whatever are available at the moment. Have look here if you wanna know more, this one of the ROM threads. I'd give it a try for sure but since I did a manual update a while ago I have the Nokia bootloader so I'm stuck here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1665651
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thank u man! ill try to read and learn about this. i learned pretty mutch everything about android phones,so hope i can learn something about the lumia 800 toothank u!
Is it possible to install Android 4 on Nokia Lumia 920?
Unfortunately not at this point in time, Many users would love to have a dual boot option, Set a bounty to the Dark Forces Team to work on HSPL and if there is enough interest then may be work will begin
Either way it will not be happening for a very long time.
Yes, you just need the boot floppy.
i want Android too.
Not much love in WM8 now.
According to the reviews I read getting HSPL for the WP8 devices is close to impossible. (although that was said about a lot of things) I personally would however not want Android on this awesome device even if someone paid me for it
Megamegamonster said:
Is it possible to install Android 4 on Nokia Lumia 920?
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Fortunately, no.
sk22 said:
i want Android too.
Not much love in WM8 now.
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Buy an Android phone then. Problem solved.
These aren't desktop computers you can just load any OS onto, they are complex embedded devices.
There is a surprising lack of compatibility on ARM processors, so you're better buying the phone with the OS you want to run.
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Buy an Android phone then. Problem solved.
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Have to agree, why get a WM8 phone if you want to put Android on it?
HD2 was also a wm6.5 phone, right??
But I don't think there are a lot of HD2 still running wm6.5.
Why people keep porting different OS into it? They can just buy an android device, problem solved, too.
I think there will be more fans if 920 can be ported other OS.
sk22 said:
Not much love in WM8 now.
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What is "WM8"?
There are more than enough Android phones bro.
You bought the wrong phone if you really want Android
the Lumia 920 is pure Windows Phone, you can fell the power and style it
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There was not a single port of Android to a WP7 phone and almost all of them had HSPL. When looking into HSPL for Nokia though some Devs decided it was to hard to crack - I would guess with Secure Boot this has not gotten easier.
So all in all: it is highly unlikely that you will see an Android port for the Lumia phones or any other WP for that matter. If you don't like WP8 and want an Android device: sell the Lumia and buy an Android - everything else seems likely to just frustrate you to no end.