I have beem looking around the forums now for a while regarding this issue.
I would like to know if it would be possible to run Andoid ICS on current WP7 Hardware. Seeing as nearly all the 1st an 2nd gen devices share the same hardware , I was wondering would it be possible to create a generic ICS rom that would work on most WP7 Hardware.
And another question i have is is it even going to be possible to swap out the bootloader for a unlocked (maybe dual boot function) one?
I'm currently using a Nokia Lumia 800, and this question has been asked in the lumia 800 thread. But all we seem to be getting is people who are saying it shouldn't be done and/or it can't be done.
So now to all the devs out there, What is the likelyhood of an android port arriving on A nokia lumia or simular WP7 devices
ahahaha, it would be great!!! it's impossible even if the hardware is similar to android phone. you should change all the bootloader, and there isn't MAGRL for Windows Phone 7. But someone could succeed
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Let this be just discussion first...
So today was the Windows Phone 7 announcement and a lot of new devices were announced including the HTC 7 Mozart:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-and-7-trophy-set-out-to-conquer-the-wp7-world-7-pr/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/11/htc-7-mozart-first-hands-on/
Pretty similar hardware and look to our Desire... I know it's early now but do you think that we will be able to port Windows Phone 7 to our Desire? Just for fun... Android is good enough.
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Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
EleCtrOx666 said:
Would be much more difficult since that's 100% reverse engineering 'cause Windows Phone 7 OS is not open source at all. But not impossible, though don't expect any...
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Devs here have made wonders, and I think I saw a dev here running WP 7 on an HD 2....
I think we only need some sort of a bootloader... as the hardware is pretty similar it should boot and some parts should work.
I'm also more than satisfied with Android, but hey... as a geek, dual booting my smartphone does have some appeal
Seems unlikely. One of the biggest problems with pouring android to a wm phone is that some of the drivers are in the radio rom and that is closed. So a huge among of work goes into figuring out how to talk to the hardware then coding that into the linux kernel source. In the case of wp7, there will be no source code at all, just binaries. Without haret and debug information, there is no way to start other than flashing the rom and seeing whether it bricks. Maybe if haret got ported out would be a start. (maybe it already has, I didn't look at this for a while).
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
rete said:
....speaking about Bravo clones, how about one that runs WinMo 6.5?
http://phonereplica.info/dual-sim/touch-g7-dual-sim-phone-htc-desire-clone.html
....and a video of the action:
http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/Un6h1tEL1GE/
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These clones always make me laugh a little. Why don't they just put Android on them? Lol.
I'm 100% sticking with Android but, I'd love to be able to dual boot WP7. You know, just to say I can
This would be hard work!
WP7 ist not OpenSource so creating driver etc is vey heavy!
Side note, anyone know if its going to be SIM free? Orange have the exclusive as an operator but I'm quite tempted to have a look at this...first previews are saying WP7 is VERY fast
Orange will have paid through the nose to get exclusivity of this phone so don't expect to see it sim free for at least a couple of months, they normally have either 6 weeks, 3 months or 6 months exclusive rights before going sim free.
I suppose cause the ROMs are out it could just be debranded, assuming it's not too hard to break the bootloader
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
Wondows 7 on htc desire
I would also love, If My HTC Desire is capable of dual boot on Windows 7 and Android. After having such a good hardware but if it does not support on software then it such hardware is of no use.
ameel said:
given desire and mozart have very similar specs, does that mean there's a good chance android can be ported to mozart? im guessing through some kind of bootloader? anyone working on it?
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Any one found a workaround to this yet? Dual booting is lovely. For this reason, I happen to put a hand on a HD2 with WinMo 6.5 and I can boot Android on it but the phone is not mine, so now Im searching for a good HTC phone that gives me the options to play with.
Hi,
i am interested in buying an Lumia 800 but i do not have any knowledge or experience with windows phone. I just want to try this system and the Nokia devices have a very good navigation software and a good camera. How big is the chance that a WP8 Rom will come to the Lumia 800?
Normally i use a Galaxy S3 and just want to buy a second device to play around and test somthing new. So please excuse my noob question. The L800 will cost around 200€ without a contract and i think its a nice alternative to my Samsung.
thanks a lot
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its not going to happen the most you will get is wp 7.8 only the new line of lumias will have w8
if i were you buy the 820 or 920
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I would like to buy them but they are too expensive just for testing and playing around. Is it impossible because of the hardware specifications or that there will be no WP8 Source Code available which can be customized with drivers etc. ?
Not possible mate..though u can have a word around here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966327
with the devs
Hi,
Even if someone ports a WP8 for a current WP7 device he/she would have to disable all the specific WP8 functionalities which requires higher hardware specification (Dual core CPU and all) so it would be kind of a 7.8 with very marginal improvements.
So I dont think there would be much of a gain in trying to port in WP8 to 800
just my 2 cents and I can be completely wrong
Hee!,
I am an engeneering student and I do not think it is already fair to say porting WP8 will be posible, or not. It is true that the hardware of our current Windows Phone device doesnt reach the Microsoft hardware minimum for windows 8 device. Although this is their minimum, wich not only concludes the ´needings of the system´ but also ´marketings minimums´, for example: who would upgrade to a WP8 device if it is slower?
So not having the minimum hardware requirment doesnt really mean it is imposible to run WP8. Although it requirs a lot of porting and I am not sure if somebody will succees doing it.
Also one last point to mention, as you can find on the forum you can not update all Lumia 800 devices, depends on your bootloader, wich you cant know when you buy it on Ebay.
Does anybody know when Lumia 800 will get an official WP7.8 update? And will it be available in Europe?
they say , in the mittle of December...
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Normally i use a Galaxy S3 and just want to buy a second device to play around and test somthing new
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Lumia phones are mostly phones as some testing tweaking devices. So i'm wondering, what you expect, as long as 800 is flashable only with qualcomm bootloader. New ones have only Dload, which is not hacked yet. Lumias are not like androids - completly different ROMs, patches, flashable apps,... Lumias are great, fast, reliable phones. Not for messing around.
i think you will try lumia920 or lumia820/822,lumia800 only have wp7.8
What are the challenges to porting Android to the Lumia?
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Challenges are alot of dev time is needed and there needs to be enough interest, It may well be in the pipeline already but I think a newer Android build would run poorly on the single core and 512mb ram, I know it has been done on the Nokia N9 but assume the bootloader is totally different on the lumia and would involve some kind of HSPL before you could install any custom ROMs.
changelog only happens when there is port for android , there is no android port for 800 till now
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Challenges are alot of dev time is needed and there needs to be enough interest, It may well be in the pipeline already but I think a newer Android build would run poorly on the single core and 512mb ram, I know it has been done on the Nokia N9 but assume the bootloader is totally different on the lumia and would involve some kind of HSPL before you could install any custom ROMs.
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And the Nokia N9 has 1gb ram. and even there, the latest nitdroid isn't really smooth...
Is it possible to install Android 4 on Nokia Lumia 920?
Unfortunately not at this point in time, Many users would love to have a dual boot option, Set a bounty to the Dark Forces Team to work on HSPL and if there is enough interest then may be work will begin
Either way it will not be happening for a very long time.
Yes, you just need the boot floppy.
i want Android too.
Not much love in WM8 now.
According to the reviews I read getting HSPL for the WP8 devices is close to impossible. (although that was said about a lot of things) I personally would however not want Android on this awesome device even if someone paid me for it
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Is it possible to install Android 4 on Nokia Lumia 920?
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Fortunately, no.
sk22 said:
i want Android too.
Not much love in WM8 now.
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Buy an Android phone then. Problem solved.
These aren't desktop computers you can just load any OS onto, they are complex embedded devices.
There is a surprising lack of compatibility on ARM processors, so you're better buying the phone with the OS you want to run.
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Buy an Android phone then. Problem solved.
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Have to agree, why get a WM8 phone if you want to put Android on it?
HD2 was also a wm6.5 phone, right??
But I don't think there are a lot of HD2 still running wm6.5.
Why people keep porting different OS into it? They can just buy an android device, problem solved, too.
I think there will be more fans if 920 can be ported other OS.
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Not much love in WM8 now.
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What is "WM8"?
There are more than enough Android phones bro.
You bought the wrong phone if you really want Android
the Lumia 920 is pure Windows Phone, you can fell the power and style it
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There was not a single port of Android to a WP7 phone and almost all of them had HSPL. When looking into HSPL for Nokia though some Devs decided it was to hard to crack - I would guess with Secure Boot this has not gotten easier.
So all in all: it is highly unlikely that you will see an Android port for the Lumia phones or any other WP for that matter. If you don't like WP8 and want an Android device: sell the Lumia and buy an Android - everything else seems likely to just frustrate you to no end.
I'm wondering if there are Android ROMs for Lumia hardware. Nokia's hardware is cheap and good - it would be nice to run Android on it.
Anyone know any other hackers from Nokia that are running it on their personal phones.
Lolwut
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stevep2007 said:
I'm wondering if there are Android ROMs for Lumia hardware. Nokia's hardware is cheap and good - it would be nice to run Android on it.
Anyone know any other hackers from Nokia that are running it on their personal phones.
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i think ROM isnt right. You need a whole OS with kernel i dont know what else.
i'm not a dev, but i think thats pretty impossible....maybe if you have all the sources and driver and a big team... something like microsoft
and nokia isnt relly cheap although
no, it's impossible. lumia supports only windows phone and so far nobody found solution how to install android on those devices. if u had nokia n900 then this wouldn't be a problem but you can't do anything with lumia );
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Not possible in current situation.
Though I have been hearing rumors that Nokia was supposedly developing Android ROMs for their Lumia series which was under very secret testing. If you have any of those top secret devices then maybe......
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Not possible in current situation.
Though I have been hearing rumors that Nokia was supposedly developing Android ROMs for their Lumia series which was under very secret testing. If you have any of those top secret devices then maybe......
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Actually that's because Nokia can unlock the bootloader and sideload any OS onto it.
@ OP: If you find a way to unlock the qualcomm bootloader, you can install Android onto it, however, that doesn't seem possible at the moment