First off, thanks to all the devs for making this NT awesome...(and other devices, of course) Just want to get that out of the way. :good: :highfive:
I just got the NT from a 1saleaday deal for really cheap a month or so ago, knowing the dev community has made it awesome. And now, I'm getting around to opening the box, and before i set it up, i turned it off, to do some good ol' XDA research. And, oh boy, I've read a lot.... And, I'm seeing this NT being a new beast. Almost overwhelming...
And before i ask a few questions, just want to mention I've had 5+ android phones with TONs of flashing and modding done to them. I normally don't have any issue, and never ask questions, always research and contribute...
SO, with that said: Normally with android phones, What I'm used to is: Root, flash recovery, flash rom, bam, new hawtness. It's usually a simple process, to me... This NT seems to have a lot more to it...
Now my main question is: Do i really need to use an SD card to flash a recovery and CM10.1? I havn't even set this thing up, (let alone care about what is on it...lol) Is there a way i can just use the root methods found on the forum transfer the files to the NT, flash a recovery, and in that recovery flash a rom, all on just the internal memory? (I guess there needs to be partitioning as well... Where would that come in? Probably before the rom flash...) Or does the BN software/bootloader make this difficult on the NT?
I guess I'm looking for just a run down for my situation, where i don't need a backup of the BN software or anything on the tablet, because i just want a sweet tablet with CM10... :fingers-crossed:
Thanks a ton for looking!
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First off, thanks to all the devs for making this NT awesome...(and other devices, of course) Just want to get that out of the way. :good: :highfive:
I just got the NT from a 1saleaday deal for really cheap a month or so ago, knowing the dev community has made it awesome. And now, I'm getting around to opening the box, and before i set it up, i turned it off, to do some good ol' XDA research. And, oh boy, I've read a lot.... And, I'm seeing this NT being a new beast. Almost overwhelming...
And before i ask a few questions, just want to mention I've had 5+ android phones with TONs of flashing and modding done to them. I normally don't have any issue, and never ask questions, always research and contribute...
SO, with that said: Normally with android phones, What I'm used to is: Root, flash recovery, flash rom, bam, new hawtness. It's usually a simple process, to me... This NT seems to have a lot more to it...
Now my main question is: Do i really need to use an SD card to flash a recovery and CM10.1? I havn't even set this thing up, (let alone care about what is on it...lol) Is there a way i can just use the root methods found on the forum transfer the files to the NT, flash a recovery, and in that recovery flash a rom, all on just the internal memory? (I guess there needs to be partitioning as well... Where would that come in? Probably before the rom flash...) Or does the BN software/bootloader make this difficult on the NT?
I guess I'm looking for just a run down for my situation, where i don't need a backup of the BN software or anything on the tablet, because i just want a sweet tablet with CM10... :fingers-crossed:
Thanks a ton for looking!
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Congrats on your NT.
Now to your question,
No, you do not have to use the SD recovery method, but its really safe to keep a bootable recovery, that doesn't need any key persses or prompt to enter recovery.
Also having a bootable recovery , you can bypass the stock rooting, recovery flashing etc and directly get to flashing rom. So I'd suggest this. Even a 1gb (or maybe even smaller card) will do.
I personally feel partitioning is unnecessary.
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Now my main question is: Do i really need to use an SD card to flash a recovery and CM10.1?
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Maybe you can do it another way, but WHY?????
That's what makes the NT so "mod-friendly": that you can do so much via sd-card.
If you want to repartition and the BN partitioning scheme (8 GB user space) is OK for you but you don't have store nearby, burn "repart.img" to sd and run it before rooting.
Burn another image and use that for rooting and flashing an updated recovery.
Start up to that updated recovery and flash your ROM.
Easy peasy!
First off, thanks for the responses. Last night i hit the NT head on, and am a proud owner of a NT w/ CM10.1 :laugh: I'm REALLY impressed with how it runs 4.2.1. It pretty equal to my Nexus 7 (Hisssss lol..)
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Maybe you can do it another way, but WHY?????
That's what makes the NT so "mod-friendly": that you can do so much via sd-card.
If you want to repartition and the BN partitioning scheme (8 GB user space) is OK for you but you don't have store nearby, burn "repart.img" to sd and run it before rooting.
Burn another image and use that for rooting and flashing an updated recovery.
Start up to that updated recovery and flash your ROM.
Easy peasy!
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Haha, I guess I'm just used to all my Nexus gear thats had no SD card slots, using an SD card is just awkward now. I had to end up pulling out my old netbook to image the cards, lol. But all is good on the NT now. I put CWM6 on the eMMC, and flashed CM10.1, couldn't be happier. It was stable enough, I ended up setting it up for the Girlfriend and calling it her Christmas gift. Smoooth.. :angel: lol.
Glad you got it set up! And yes, CM10 is so smooooth running on these babies!!
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I have a Droid X that I've flashed from FroYo to GB and back several times.
I just returned a Chinese, Inc. tablet that I flashed from GB to ICS and back several times.
I want a vanilla Nook Tablet (ultimately with ICS on it) or a Samsung Galaxy 2 (7.0). But since I can get a "Certified Pre-Owned" Nook 16GB for $200, I'm leaning in that direction.
So-o-o-o...
By "vanilla", I mean I want an Android tablet with an Android UI. And I have no reservations about flashing the ROM. I'm here because I want confirm my understanding of the terminologies folks are using when they're talking about the Nook Tablet.
There are two methods for turning it into a vanilla Android tablet:
1) Internal
---a) Uses CWM installed from SDCARD to ahceive root, and
---b) Uses CWM to unzip an image and flashes the ROM
2) External
---a) Uses CWM run from SDCARD to achieve root, and
---b) Uses CWM to boot the tablet from SDCARD
Am I correct so far?
I need to ask these questions because I'm finding countless web pages describing very different methods for accomplishing the same goal. Life was easier with the Droid and the Chinese tablet;
1) Run this installer on the PC
2) Point to the ROM image
3) Connect the USB cable
4) Press ENTER
I may or may not even care about flashing it back to stock. But it looks like the option is there. True? It will probably come with 1.4.2, but if I restore it to 1.4.1, it will update itself back to 1.4.2?
My head hurts.
If the NT was manufactured early as 1.4.0 you can revert back to 1.4.1 or 1.4.0. You can block the update from automatically upgrading to 1.4.2. If it is a later NT and was shipped with 1.4.2 it can NOT be rolled back. The 16 GB NT's can be rooted and flashed to an Alpha Final CM7, gingerbread that is fairly stable with some bugs that can be worked around or an Alpha 0.03 CM9, ICS that in my opinion is a little rougher that is based on a gingerbread kernal. It acts and feels like ICS. Work is still in process on both roms.
I think you should read both the development threads for the roms and the support thread for CM7 to get the whole picture. Try the search for specific questions. You will find methods and videos for most of the options.
Bill
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If the NT was manufactured early as 1.4.0 you can revert back to 1.4.1 or 1.4.0. You can block the update from automatically upgrading to 1.4.2. If it is a later NT and was shipped with 1.4.2 it can NOT be rolled back. The 16 GB NT's can be rooted and flashed to an Alpha Final CM7, gingerbread that is fairly stable with some bugs that can be worked around or an Alpha 0.03 CM9, ICS that in my opinion is a little rougher that is based on a gingerbread kernal. It acts and feels like ICS. Work is still in process on both roms.
I think you should read both the development threads for the roms and the support thread for CM7 to get the whole picture. Try the search for specific questions. You will find methods and videos for most of the options.
Bill
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It's definitely the wild west here. I've never had an Android device where the experience was so diverse re: root, ROM, backup and what works and what does not.
For example, I got a later-model 16GB NT and had no trouble rolling it back to 1.4.0 w/ one of the stock root methods. I know the 8GB *can't* be rolled back because the ROM image for 1.4.0 assumes 1GB RAM (the 8GB nook has 0.5 GB). But I totally believe lots of people have not been able to do a 16 GB roll-back, because my NT's [I have both a 16 & an 8 for my wife] have their share of many of the quirks mentioned in the forum - - will/won't boot w. USB, work w/ some SD cards but not others, etc.
My advice is go ahead and get the NT - they are great devices, and the 16GB especially has way better hardware than a Kindle - and just get ready for a lot of patient trial and error. You have lots of experience w/ Android & rooting, so it's just being careful and keeping backups. There are a couple of full-restore methods for the 16GB if you really get in trouble.
But, yeah - - it's more of a challenge with an NT. I also have an HTC Inspire, and that was like "here is the best root method - do it! Here's the way to install ROMs - do it! Here's the way to back up..." With the NT it's been more like trying the 2 or 3 methods for each step of the process and finding which one works best on which tablet.
But, boy, do you feel like you've accomplished something when it's finally configured and running sweet - and I know I know this device better than anything I've owned before, after all that experimenting.
Good luck! ;-)
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1) Internal
---a) Uses CWM installed from SDCARD to ahceive root, and
---b) Uses CWM to unzip an image and flashes the ROM
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Actually to go internal, you don't even need to "achieve root." Boot into the normal B&N OS, mount to computer and transfer the internal rom zip file to the internal storage of the Nook. Next create the CWM bootable sd card, plug it into the nook and boot into CWM. Make a backup first thing.
Proceed to install from zip and navigate to the zip file you transferred to the Nook. Wipe data/cache and reboot. Ta da, vanilla android with whichever rom you choose.
2) External
---a) Uses CWM run from SDCARD to achieve root, and
---b) Uses CWM to boot the tablet from SDCARD
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As of now, the only rom running from sdcard external is CM7. And you don't need to fuss with CWM or anything internal to make this happen. All you need to do is burn the CM7 image to an sdcard, plug in and boot up and voila, external booting vanilla android. I should note though that some sdcards are fussy about this and some devices require you to be plugged into USB to boot from sdcard.
For simplicity sake, just go internal. You can always return to stock quite easily should you want/need to.
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As of now, the only rom running from sdcard external is CM7. And you don't need to fuss with CWM or anything internal to make this happen. All you need to do is burn the CM7 image to an sdcard, plug in and boot up and voila, external booting vanilla android. I should note though that some sdcards are fussy about this and some devices require you to be plugged into USB to boot from sdcard.
For simplicity sake, just go internal. You can always return to stock quite easily should you want/need to.
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I agree - and strong second on having a couple of SD cards ready. I had a couple of good cards that just would *not* boot with CM7 on them, felt like giving up, then finally got a cheap PNY 16GB Class 4 and it booted right away.
[If you search far enough back in the forum there's a pretty long debate about which SD cards work best, and which don't seem to work at all. Of course, nobody ever actually solved that! ;-) ]
Just don't give up if the first card you use doesn't work. It's just another place where the NT's are quirky . . .
Just a quick update to say thanks for the help.
For a short time, I actually had both a Nook and a Tab 2 (7.0). I just sent the Tab back to Amazon. It had the laggy touch-screen that some people experience.
In contrast, the Nook is built like it was made for the military! What a difference. The Tab is nice, but kind of creaky, and a little too thin for my likes. And I kept hitting the power button, I had to hold it upside-down else the WiFi was weak, ...
I sort of suspect that all the glowing reviews about the Tab's build quality are shills (I'm going catch flack for that). There's just no comparison.
Do we know who actually builds the Nook?
Happily rooting, flashing and generally trying to brick my new (Certified Pre-Owned) Nook.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1005633
Link to the SD card test thread FYI.
Anyways, Nook is great.
I'd just root it 1st, then install CM7 to a MicroSD card (for portability and to keep the internals stock), then from CM7, block OTA updates from the CM settings.
The link in the Nook Tablet General forum with the 8/16GB MicroSD card image with Market is the one you want =D
Hello I hope someone can help me with this. I rooted my daughter's Nook tablet with OS version 1.4.3 and put CM7 on there. Here is the link to the page I followed to do this, I used everything on there, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2037368
Every once in a while the thing goes crazy and just opens things up on its own. It won't follow any of the buttons pushed or even when I tried to power off it took a long time for it to react. Any ideas or suggestion would be very helpful she's going back to college later today and would like this fixed before she leaves.
Thanks
Bob
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Hello I hope someone can help me with this. I rooted my daughter's Nook tablet with OS version 1.4.3 and put CM7 on there. Here is the link to the page I followed to do this, I used everything on there, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2037368
Every once in a while the thing goes crazy and just opens things up on its own. It won't follow any of the buttons pushed or even when I tried to power off it took a long time for it to react. Any ideas or suggestion would be very helpful she's going back to college later today and would like this fixed before she leaves.
Thanks
Bob
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Mine would do it when the battery would get low.
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Mine would do it when the battery would get low.
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That may be it, her battery was very low. Thanks for the info.
I'd suggest upgrading to CM10 next time you have her NT for a couple of days. CM7 for the NT got superseded by CM9 and CM10 well before its development got mature enough, its Android base (Gingerbread) is also ~2-year old and many new apps would not be backward compatible with it.
The easiest/quickest way to get on CM10 is to run it off an SDcard using a pre-made image from http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/. You can buy a 8GB class 4 microSD (Sandisk is best) for about $6 on ebay, burn the CM10 image and just mail it to your daughter to put it in and boot it up.
If you want to build the CM10 SDcard from scratch (for more customization) you can use the process described at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35786747&postcount=1, but you'll need to use the NT to "build" the card.
Just an FYI stock nook untouched freaks out with low battery as well. It isn't ROM related.
Sent from my CM 10 nook tablet. Thanks devs!
Is there anyway to keep the data already on my external memory? Or is it going to get wiped out? I plan on backing up my card anyway, but I'd rather avoid having to move everyback after I'm done. Thanks for the help.
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Is there anyway to keep the data already on my external memory? Or is it going to get wiped out? I plan on backing up my card anyway, but I'd rather avoid having to move everyback after I'm done. Thanks for the help.
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1st thing i thought it was a known issue that gingerbread doesnt work well with NT's. and that there were always huge bugs when it is installed.
2nd thing u shud def update to newer cm10.2 stable with bexus-n kernel. works well even without kernel.just runs faster and saves more energy and charges faster.
3rd u should ALWAYS wipe data first especially if ur installing different android versions (exp: gingerbread to jellybean and such). even going from stock nook to a rom u shud wipe.....chance of leaving residual data from past rom might brick it or mess up the internal partitions. then ur in for a long drawn out recovery process. good luck :good:
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1st thing i thought it was a known issue that gingerbread doesnt work well with NT's. and that there were always huge bugs when it is installed.
2nd thing u shud def update to newer cm10.2 stable with bexus-n kernel. works well even without kernel.just runs faster and saves more energy and charges faster.
3rd u should ALWAYS wipe data first especially if ur installing different android versions (exp: gingerbread to jellybean and such). even going from stock nook to a rom u shud wipe.....chance of leaving residual data from past rom might brick it or mess up the internal partitions. then ur in for a long drawn out recovery process. good luck :good:
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Great. Thank you. Could you point me to a good thread that breaks down the process? Its been a couple years since I installed gingerbread and im a bit rusty.
Endangered_Nook said:
Great. Thank you. Could you point me to a good thread that breaks down the process? Its been a couple years since I installed gingerbread and im a bit rusty.
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choose one than suits ur needs. READ CAREFULLY AND DO EXACTLY AS STATED.
quoted from digixmax from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2439494<<<<---
If you aim to run rooted stock ROM, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=240.
If you aim to install custom ROM such as CM10.x internally on emmc, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...71&postcount=1.
See also http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...7&postcount=31 for more background info on rooting & flashing custom ROMs.
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if u are seeing anything unusual when in cwm recovery let me know. ANYTHING U THINK IS UNUSUAL.
Hello!
Firstly, I am not a noob, so you don't need to explain things TOO simply to me. I should know most of what you people are talking about.
So I won a Kindle Fire 2 at work, worked with the team to help with getting that rooted, and of course, android is simply amazing and makes the kindle infinitely better. My co-worker is requesting the same for her Nook Tablet. Now, my nook has been the most odd to root, but I also was talking to the dev team WHILE they were getting things to work, so I'm not sure if these tablets are harder to root with the botched OSs, or it was just because the devs were still making a solid method. That said, because it's not mine. I want to get the most stable OS running on it, and I REALLY do not want this to be the first device I brick.
Basically, what I am asking, is for the links to do things properly, and your opinion on the "best" ROM. I know for me, I have been wanting that freaking pie menu since it was announced from paranoid android. However, this is for my COWORKER and not ME, so I have to put my personal tastes aside and just go for stability/battery life.
From browsing the dev section, I found this which I assume is what I will be using to root, 8gb or 16gb model.
If that is correct, I can't seem to find for the LIFE of me find a recovery. I assume you guys use TWRP like the Kindle, or something similar, but I don't see guides for it. Maybe the nook doesn't need it? Maybe my root guide has in included and I couldn't see that?
So is that guide correct to use? I am NOT SURE if it's a 8gb or 16gb model unfortunately. I will be home in....9 hours, and will start working on it then. Assuming it's correct is there another guide to get a recovery? Lastly, favorite/most recommended ROMs?
Thank you much for your help!
Best of luck on your adventures,
-iytrix
To help minimize the risk of bricking while in rooting or flashing your NT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37515697&postcount=31.
To root your NT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31271965&postcount=240.
To flash CyanogenMod 10 onto your NT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35669871&postcount=1.
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To help minimize the risk of bricking while in rooting or flashing your NT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37515697&postcount=31.
To root your NT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31271965&postcount=240.
To flash CyanogenMod 10 onto your NT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35669871&postcount=1.
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Perfect and thank you! I assume all the steps work on the 8GB as well? That's pretty neat that you can use the SD card. One issue with the kindle was the difficulty putting things onto the device using fastboot.
So CM is the best choice again it seems, as usual. I MIGHT try the paranoid 3 if it's not too risky just so I can play around with it haha. I should look into porting ROMs so I can get myself that lovely pie menu on my poor kindle.
Thanks for the links!
FWIW, you can install and run Succulent(aka iamafanof)'s CM10.x or PA ROM build on SD to see if you/your friend like it enough to flash it into internal emmc -- see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36685310&postcount=1.
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FWIW, you can install and run Succulent(aka iamafanof)'s CM10.x or PA ROM build on SD to see if you/your friend like it enough to flash it into internal emmc -- see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36685310&postcount=1.
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Yeah I REALLY liked the EMMC/SD thing. I love the idea of, put on ROM, pop in SD, boot and test ROM. I wish ALL devices easily could do this. Does the Nook come with an SD card? I have no idea if she has gotten one for it. If it doesn't, and she didn't get one, I know I have a few although I'd not like to give them away haha.
I got a NT not long ago and it is now rooted and running CM10, however I still lost in regards the 1gb user partition. CM10 is installed in that partition and I wanted in fact repartition the NT but the process seems to be confuse and risky so I was wondering if I have to stay llimited to work with just 1GB.
How about games and other programs I download? Are they all be installed in that 1gb?
I inserted a 16gb card but I cannot re -direct the apps to install in the external or even move them to the sd ext card. I also cannot see it with a file manager.
Could I use the B&N partition to load movies, apps etc or it will be sitting there useless?
Is there maybe an easier way to re-flash and repartition?
Thank you
BUMP!
You can reaprtition the same way they do in stores if you want to and get an 8GB partition for own storage. The repart.img mentioned in many other topics will do that for you. You will loose everyhting and get right back to out of the box stock firmware if you do it, but it's really easy.
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You can reaprtition the same way they do in stores if you want to and get an 8GB partition for own storage. The repart.img mentioned in many other topics will do that for you. You will loose everyhting and get right back to out of the box stock firmware if you do it, but it's really easy.
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Thank you Asawi, yes I really would like to repartition it. I hate to have that wasted space.
I will try find the best thread on how to use the repart.img. or please point me out in case you already know.
Thanks!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836
The download link is in the very beginning of this post. If you've got image writing software already you can then jump to step 2. Extract the downlad and burn the reaprt.img to a card. Insert card and boot to it. After a few minutes a green chejmark should appear. (If a red cross appears instead you're in trouble.) Remove card and an update starts and goes on for a few minutes and you can then start over with yout CM10 install again.
asawi said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663836
The download link is in the very beginning of this post. If you've got image writing software already you can then jump to step 2. Extract the downlad and burn the reaprt.img to a card. Insert card and boot to it. After a few minutes a green chejmark should appear. (If a red cross appears instead you're in trouble.) Remove card and an update starts and goes on for a few minutes and you can then start over with yout CM10 install again.
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So after doing this will I have to reroot or I just have to reinstall cm10? Getting my 16gb card in the mail (hopefully today) should I wait to get the card or can I just copy everything from my 8bg to the 16 and everything remain? Thank you for your help!
It's probably me being stupid, but I don't understand what setup you have and quite what you are talking about. Running the repart .img will completely erase everything on the device and set it back to freshly bought. Whatever you have in internal memory that you want to save you need to save somewhere else.
I don't get your reasoning that CM10 is installed in your 1GB partition, because that is not the norm.
Probably me being stupid, but I can't help you.
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So after doing this will I have to reroot or I just have to reinstall cm10? Getting my 16gb card in the mail (hopefully today) should I wait to get the card or can I just copy everything from my 8bg to the 16 and everything remain? Thank you for your help!
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Never mind I fully read the post and now know I will have to reroot. Glad I bookmarked all the pages I used.
Mystina83 said:
Never mind I fully read the post and now know I will have to reroot. Glad I bookmarked all the pages I used.
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Well, if you're installing CM10 you don't actually have to root as a separate process. Just install CM10 and rooting will come done at the same time. Itäs only if you plan to run stock you need to root.
If you have to go and get stuff from several pages you are probably not doing the installing in a very efficient way. Possibly things can be done a lot easier now than whe you originally did it.
Ihave made several posts outlining an extremely easy way to install CM. Look for them if you want to.
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Well, if you're installing CM10 you don't actually have to root as a separate process. Just install CM10 and rooting will come done at the same time. Itäs only if you plan to run stock you need to root.
If you have to go and get stuff from several pages you are probably not doing the installing in a very efficient way. Possibly things can be done a lot easier now than whe you originally did it.
Ihave made several posts outlining an extremely easy way to install CM. Look for them if you want to.
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I had already done the root from a video I saw on youtube then used your link for cm from the [Q] Noob Alert! Nook Tablet 8GB Rooting Question! post. So just doing the cm from that same post will also root my device? I don't really need anything on the actually nook. I got it as a gift and use the kindle app for all my books. I will defiently look into your other posts. I just got the NT a little less than a month ago.
If you root before installing CM10 you'll just overwrite the root you did, so no point in doing it.
Once CM10 is installed your Tablet should be rooted.
All you need to do is get into CWM 6.x.x an flash the ROM and appropriate gApps zips.
I am usually here hoping to help others, now its my turn..............
I am a bit stumped here. I am trying to figure out why my phone doesn't seem to want to run 4.3
I have tried almost all of them. with stock kernel and alternate. I am not flashing a bunch of extra stuff or anything and ran various different builds. I am not trying to over rev the engine either. ive done these test over the past 2 weeks so i know i am not rushing anything
what I had been doing was flashing a ROM, any 4.3 and appropriate Gapps. I am very hygienic flasher and very careful to flash compatible packages. I would flash package and then use APP2ZIP to bring back all my apps. on the average about 24 hrs after flashing, I get reboot and it wont come back up. just keeps boot looping. I was thinking maybe had something to do with the apps i saved and flashed from APP2ZIPP being from 4.2 Gapps??? and i am trying to run 4.3 now. sounds kind of dumb now that i am typing it but, you pour a shot glass full of information into a thimball size brain, and you are bound to spill something.
so i tried today the 8/26 build of PAC ROM and did not flash my app zip. 2 hours later.........boot loop.
4.1 & 4.2 does not do this..............i don't get it.
is it something so simple it just got spilled?
4.3 didn't like my phone much either .........
RoOtBoX4/20..4AcEs4/21..SpEcCd+RoBoToEd+ViPeRd. 2$HAYNE!!!
That sucks captemo, 4.3 runs great on my phone far more stable then 4.2 . Have you tried wiping your internal and memory card? Is try that save all your important stuff wipe your phone completely and see how it runs.
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You could try reverting to stock first, then installing 4.3.
My phone didn't like any custom roms besides padawan and I'm like wtf? One day I decided to use kies and blitz everything on my phone. Now I can flash any rom properly and don't have any issues. I also blitzed the memory card so everything was fresh.
Sorry to hear your troubles. Good luck!
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That sucks captemo, 4.3 runs great on my phone far more stable then 4.2 . Have you tried wiping your internal and memory card? Is try that save all your important stuff wipe your phone completely and see how it runs.
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i have thought about that, read that others have done this..........i get a little nervous on things like this though. i have seen so many files and not sure what comes in the OS and what i ended up putting in there. whats ok to dump and whats not. or if i dump it all, will the necessities load back in with new ROM? honestly, i can get so nervous on what i consider a drastic move, i will say some very stupid things.
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You could try reverting to stock first, then installing 4.3.
My phone didn't like any custom roms besides padawan and I'm like wtf? One day I decided to use kies and blitz everything on my phone. Now I can flash any rom properly and don't have any issues. I also blitzed the memory card so everything was fresh.
Sorry to hear your troubles. Good luck!
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i have thought about both of these. i don't really consider this TROUBLES. not like i cant run any of these great ROM's on this excellent site. i cant eat caviar, but i am definitely NOT starving. i just cant seem to run 4.3. you think the flash counter has anything to do with??? i know, another dumb comment.
i suppose if something goes wrong, i have even better reasoning in convincing AT&T to allow me early upgrade............hmmmmmmmm.
can you say MMMMEEEEEGGGGAAAA ?
thanks guys, i appreciate the responses. will let ya know
I've ODIN'd back to stock several times when I start getting unusual problems. Very simple process actually and BlownFuze has a simple guide with the necessary files to download in his AOKP thread. Just save your music, pictures, ringtone, notification, SMS backup and download folder files and any other files you have added to phone storage to your PC. Flash back to stock, root and install TWRP then wipe everything including emmc and away you go. If you go into TWRP and mount your storage you'll find that the file transfer to and from the PC goes much faster. Hope this helps.
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I've ODIN'd back to stock several times when I start getting unusual problems. Very simple process actually and BlownFuze has a simple guide with the necessary files to download in his AOKP thread. Just save your music, pictures, ringtone, notification, SMS backup and download folder files and any other files you have added to phone storage to your PC. Flash back to stock, root and install TWRP then wipe everything including emmc and away you go. If you go into TWRP and mount your storage you'll find that the file transfer to and from the PC goes much faster. Hope this helps.
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i thank you for your feedback .i have returned to stock many times. it is the suggestion of clearing internal storage and deleting something vital. like going in for hangnail and removing the brain.
back on 4.2 until i get my ducks in a row and rehearse the process.
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i thank you for your feedback .i have returned to stock many times. it is the suggestion of clearing internal storage and deleting something vital. like going in for hangnail and removing the brain.
back on 4.2 until i get my ducks in a row and rehearse the process.
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Yeah, I know you make the rounds here and it always seemed like you know your stuff. I guess I didn't quite understand what you were asking.
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Yeah, I know you make the rounds here and it always seemed like you know your stuff. I guess I didn't quite understand what you were asking.
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i don't think we ever know as much as we want to know.
many times i tell folks to slow down, read and understand what you are doing. i try and do the same even on the most basic things. its when you get to comfortable that you make the dumbest mistakes. that's why i actually do kind of rehearse. i go through all the motions and my wife will even ask "who are you talking to?"
these devices are just too expensive to be careless. nobody is going to give me money or fix my phone for me.
I delete internal with every flash .. I do complete wipes every time haha
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Cap, my wife has my Note now, but it's running the first nightly of official 10.2 with Jamie's uber kernel.
Now, I don't mess with the kernel or change anything....I run just like Jamie offers it. And I mainly use the kernel for the swipe2wake feature. I didn't experience any r/r's when I was using it and let me tell you, if my wife was having problems.....she would be *****ing my head off.....
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alright, so as I like to weigh my options, research and be confident.
I respect many opinions here and value experience. I agree that wiping the memory is probably not a bad idea. from what I gather, there are 2 ways to go about this..........
1. for arguments sake I will call it he manual way. where I need to move everything myself, either to SD or computer, wipe, then replace?
2. let KIES do all the work? honestly i have not used KIES in this type of situation.
will I need to root again or will it retain?
will KIES get a full erase as manual option my provide?
if I choose manual option how do I know I have moved ONLY my personal stuff and not a valuable part of the OS required for phone work after laying the ground to waste with napalm?
I can give anybody $500 or a brick, I don't need to make it myself
captemo said:
alright, so as I like to weigh my options, research and be confident.
I respect many opinions here and value experience. I agree that wiping the memory is probably not a bad idea. from what I gather, there are 2 ways to go about this..........
1. for arguments sake I will call it he manual way. where I need to move everything myself, either to SD or computer, wipe, then replace?
2. let KIES do all the work? honestly i have not used KIES in this type of situation.
will I need to root again or will it retain?
will KIES get a full erase as manual option my provide?
if I choose manual option how do I know I have moved ONLY my personal stuff and not a valuable part of the OS required for phone work after laying the ground to waste with napalm?
I can give anybody $500 or a brick, I don't need to make it myself
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3. Let TWRP do it in recovery?
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