What is the best non touchwiz rom so far? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II

Looking to finally try something differrnt than stock, which one is best in your opinion so far.
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The CM alpha is pretty good. Some things are off...camcorder isn't working, GPS isn't working, weird call audio problems sometimes, some other small things I think are missing. Its really good for an Alpha build but not worth using as a DD for most.
PA is based off the CM10 alpha so it has the some problems.

th0r615 said:
The CM alpha is pretty good. Some things are off...camcorder isn't working, GPS isn't working, weird call audio problems sometimes, some other small things I think are missing. Its really good for an Alpha build but not worth using as a DD for most.
PA is based off the CM10 alpha so it has the some problems.
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Looks like I'm staying on stock. Thanks for the info
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icedventimocha said:
Looks like I'm staying on stock. Thanks for the info
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Same here man. I've never went aosp due to the little things. Most of em seem to be things I use too like GPS and camera ... :-\

I occasionally use paranoid android on my note 2 I like it. GPS is flaky MMS a little flaky. Just seems to take 5-10 minutes to send a picture. Calls seem fine forme . Super customizable. Love it. My wife flips between paranoid and beans build 7 on her gs3. She just can't decide which she likes better they both have pros. The only concs they have is. What's missing from touch wiz in paranoid and vise versa are the only things keeping her from deciding.

blackbass595 said:
Same here man. I've never went aosp due to the little things. Most of em seem to be things I use too like GPS and camera ... :-\
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Keep in mind they are alpha builds right now and once things get rolling (after the holidays) they will improve.

I used be a huge fan of AOKP....CM seems to be ok....

I've been using Jelly Beans from over on the development section as a DD since I got the phone, its nicely stable and well polished already, plus you keep the s-pen stuff which is very nice.

Kommkat said:
I've been using Jelly Beans from over on the development section as a DD since I got the phone, its nicely stable and well polished already, plus you keep the s-pen stuff which is very nice.
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Its still a touch wiz ROM just with aosp theme. I believe he's liking for a true 0 touchwiz ROM

Stock deodexed ROM with mods. First time in a long time I won't be reaching for an AOSP ROM. At least that is the story for now.

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Does anyone else not care for ICS?

I have tried it out but I am not thrilled by it. I still need my Go Launcher and still like MIUI a little more. I have been using a Galaxy Nexus not the ROMs here (although I have tried them). Am I safe in assuming the on screen buttons (home,back,and whatever the other one is) wont be on the GS2 since we have actually buttons? I love the ICS theme but maybe since we have had the theme for so long already it just seems old already. How do you guys feel?
Does it have anything to do with the AT&T SGS2?
Skyler2Dope said:
I have tried it out but I am not thrilled by it. I still need my Go Launcher and still like MIUI a little more. I have been using a Galaxy Nexus not the ROMs here (although I have tried them). Am I safe in assuming the on screen buttons (home,back,and whatever the other one is) wont be on the GS2 since we have actually buttons? I love the ICS theme but maybe since we have had the theme for so long already it just seems old already. How do you guys feel?
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Onscreen buttons won't be necessary when we get kernel source - they're a temporary workaround for our touchkeys not working right on I9100 leaked kernels.
So far, I haven't been impressed with the ICS leaks for the I9100. A little bit of kernel tuning might fix that, not sure yet.
CM9 is quite slick on the Tab 10.1 - so a properly working non-Touchwizz ICS port should be good. The problem is that Samsung's anti-developer attitude makes me doubt if CM9 will ever be properly polished on the GS2. There's just too much of a minefield of undocumented Samsungisms throughout the device.
I was not in a rush at all to get ICS. I saw Entropy's thread with working firmware and the in call audio fix so I though I would check it out. Turns out I love it. I think its a huge improvement. G+ is a nicer experience and Gmail has a new look. Having Chrome as the default browser is pretty nice with the option to view as desktop ..and since flashing CM9 I've noticed incorrectly spelled words get a red line under them for easy spell check/fix.. I am absolutely loving it. I can't seem to pull myself away from ICS now
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I don't even want it.....at all. AOSP used to be clean......nothing......minimal. Now its a iPhone. A whole designated launcher with integrated everything ......its Touchwiz.....its Motoblur.....its....Sense. The official version we will see will be a themed settings menu and a new version number.....I guess its cool the wifi icon and battery will be blue.....there are a couple of things that make it alright in its function. One thing is for sure is that it makes the device it was designed around lag like a son of a *****....shutters like a frozen homeless hooker.
Maybe a cooked version comes out sweet.....Entropy will make a nice sweet kernel I am sure.....but official **** and straight AOSP .....I will be fine without it.
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Skyler2Dope, Entropy512, tylerdurdin
You guys do realize you can use any launcher you want right? I've used ADW and Nova on my i9100. Both work great...
ICS Fixed the Settings menu layout. In GB there was way too many things. ICS cleaned them up. I would say it's more MIUI then iPhone.
And EVERY iteration of Android AOSP has come with a new theme. Google keeps it fresh every time. This time was dark with lots of bright blue. Next will be Light with lots of... who knows, orange, maybe...
You can theme it how you like, you can still run what ever launcher you want. Or you can go back to GingerBread... All I can say is that for me it has fixed all my little complaints, if I had them.
I have ICS running on my captivate right now. I do like the new UI, but I have to agree that with all the ICS themes out there, I am not excited by the look. It does seem old already. At this point I'm on the fence. There have been some awesome roms come out recently in the development section so I can wait. Truth be told I am rocking the black and chrome theme on checkrom right now and loving it. More my style
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MIUI V4 is dope...all the ICS features and I can theme it any way I want!
like it. blue is my fav color. I just hope there is USB connection not mtp.
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joeavery2 said:
Skyler2Dope, Entropy512, tylerdurdin
You guys do realize you can use any launcher you want right? I've used ADW and Nova on my i9100. Both work great...
ICS Fixed the Settings menu layout. In GB there was way too many things. ICS cleaned them up. I would say it's more MIUI then iPhone.
And EVERY iteration of Android AOSP has come with a new theme. Google keeps it fresh every time. This time was dark with lots of bright blue. Next will be Light with lots of... who knows, orange, maybe...
You can theme it how you like, you can still run what ever launcher you want. Or you can go back to GingerBread... All I can say is that for me it has fixed all my little complaints, if I had them.
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Ok I know assuming is bad sometimes, but..........considering Entropy has nearly 6,700 posts I'm gonna ASSUME he knows you can "use any launcher you want"
Touchwizz is more than just the launcher.
tylerdurdin said:
I don't even want it.....at all. AOSP used to be clean......nothing......minimal. Now its a iPhone.
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Whoa.. AOSP is like an iPhone what?! .. man you crazy. My phone is NOTHING like an iPhone.. doesn't look like it, doesn't feel like it and the UI is completely different. Have you fallen off your rocker?
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I guess i'd be happy with 2.3.x with the email clients from ICS
I like it....but my iScrewed works way to good for my purposes. No issues. When all is worked out i will use cm9 though. I keep my eyes on the thread over there.
Waiting for Kernel source before I make my decision, but probably going to jump when that happens.
Entropy512 said:
Onscreen buttons won't be necessary when we get kernel source - they're a temporary workaround for our touchkeys not working right on I9100 leaked kernels.
CM9 is quite slick on the Tab 10.1 - so a properly working non-Touchwizz ICS port should be good.
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FWIW, I am running [ROM] [CDMA] AOSP ICS / CM9 - BUILD7 [03/04] from http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11697-rom-cdma-aosp-ics-cm9-build7-0304/ on my 7" Sprint Galaxy Tab, and I really like it, even these "extra" onscreen buttons have added value in the tab world.
But I can say for sure that I don't want ICS on my phone yet (regardless of the business with the touchkeys)...
ICS is cool and all. But I don't really care for work arounds. I want my soft key buttons to work.
Entropy512 said:
Touchwizz is more than just the launcher.
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Exactly. Its got its hooks in about 80-90% of the firmware (just like Sense does).
As for liking ICS, remember the Froyo days? We had a lot of well working smooth roms and made Froyo enjoyable, then Gingerbread came out which seemed more like a theme than anything. But it was under the hood that made a lot of differences. The same is true for ICS, except the "theme" is a lot better, cleaner and intuitive. The under the hood stuff seems like a bigger leap then Froyo to GB was.
So am I excited, yeah. Theming can be done on any phone/rom so Im not worried about that, but where they placed things from older versions is much welcomed. Its the underneath part that Im mostly excited about.
Well said Red!
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Red5 said:
Exactly. Its got its hooks in about 80-90% of the firmware (just like Sense does).
As for liking ICS, remember the Froyo days? We had a lot of well working smooth roms and made Froyo enjoyable, then Gingerbread came out which seemed more like a theme than anything. But it was under the hood that made a lot of differences. The same is true for ICS, except the "theme" is a lot better, cleaner and intuitive. The under the hood stuff seems like a bigger leap then Froyo to GB was.
So am I excited, yeah. Theming can be done on any phone/rom so Im not worried about that, but where they placed things from older versions is much welcomed. Its the underneath part that Im mostly excited about.
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Red.....I agree with everything you said. I do understand the depths of Touchwiz also.....I won't whine though as I am running a nicely themed version right now.
I also am right there with you with the old 2.1 roms ....those are what made me love android and spend the first year I was a member here reading until 4 in the morning. I am OK with the direction the ICS OS is going.....its just the look and what is now considered AOSP that is hard for me to digest. I realize that it is just a canvas but I am old school...every ROM I download, I pull apart change what I want, theme it....some times build my own custom theme....so I am not worried about the look over the long haul.
What I can say is that I was running ICS on my HD2 before the nexus was even released....it was fun at first....but the new-ness rubs off real quick....somethings I loved, some I hated......None of those things are something that I feel I am missing out on. Hey to each their own....my brother in-law is rubbing his nexus in my face every chance he gets.....and refuses to believe, that I don't believe, his phone is the greatest ever. But I don't......I just don't think its the same android....its cool and sooner or later we are all getting it whether we want it or not.
The one thing I am going to miss, is taking my brand new bloated phone, and flashing a sweet. ....squeaky clean AOSP ROM and after it booted seeing that sweet minimal dock and nothing else......now after a flash the first thing I have to do is get that hideous launcher with their oversized gimmicky icons off?????.....AOSP just aint what it used to be. I think I am just jaded that they took away a little piece of my Zen man...
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[Q] AOKP or CM9?

Hi everyone,
It's been quite a long time since I've been on the galaxy tab 10.1 forum, since I gave my tab to my dad on January, and now I'm getting it back. So I'm kind of outdated about ICS roms. I've seen that there are two new ROM, the AOKP and CM9. I did a little research to see the difference between both, but didn't find major ones.
So I'm here to see your opinion, and feedback about each of the two ROMs. And does the camera work on AOKP or not yet?
Thank you
SamerBerjawi said:
Hi everyone,
It's been quite a long time since I've been on the galaxy tab 10.1 forum, since I gave my tab to my dad on January, and now I'm getting it back. So I'm kind of outdated about ICS roms. I've seen that there are two new ROM, the AOKP and CM9. I did a little research to see the difference between both, but didn't find major ones.
So I'm here to see your opinion, and feedback about each of the two ROMs. And does the camera work on AOKP or not yet?
Thank you
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CM9 has not yet been released; you're talking about the nightly kang builds. If you want to know the differences between the kang CM9 builds and the Roman's Kang builds (AOKP), install one, try it, then install the other. Hint: the AOKP ROM has some controls that are not built in to the CM9 Kangs.
And for gods sake: the camera will not work on any of the ICS ROMs until Samsung releases their ICS with the drivers. Please stop asking this.
I am going to install and try both but it would nice to know the feedback of other users. I don't get it why you get pissed off when asking about the camera, as if i insulted you or blamed u for not having the camera working. I will keep asking if the camera works although i never use it, and if you have a problem with that, ctrl+w or alt+f4, X in the top right, alt+left arrow, damn there's lots of alternative to leave this page.
So does the camera work? Does the camera work? Does the camera work?
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The reason he got pissed is because that question is asked over and over again. A simple search of these forums would have answered that question about the camera.
I just installed the AOKP ROM on my GT wifi last night, so far it is pretty good but I have not had it on there that long. I love having the chrome browser (or the ICS version of chrome) so I now have my bookmarks from my desktop.
Some of the popup windows when you install items are not that nice looking or smooth. Not all of my apps are showing up in the market and thats the other thing, my market is still market and not Play. I flashed the gapps 4.0.4 that was linked in the CM9 ICS wifi thread so not sure why it is still showing the old market.
I am getting used to ICS, many things seem very nice and smooth and some things not so nice looking and smooth.
I just recently took the dive and tried the AOKP first, was nice but browsers kept crashing, last night, installed the CM9 kangs and I'm liking it so far.
Will keep you updated.
I started with the AOKP ROM since I really liked its speed and features on my Galaxy Nexus. However, I noticed quickly that it wasn't too much snappier than stock. So yesterday I switched to CM9 and I have noticed that CM9 it's noticeably snappier all around.
I'll be sticking with this.
Thanks all for you replies, I appreciate that a lot.
Masterpiece Finishes said:
The reason he got pissed is because that question is asked over and over again. A simple search of these forums would have answered that question about the camera.
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Well I think it's obvious that my main thread is not about the camera, I'm basically asking about the two ROMs. You people just love to make a big deals about everything. Maybe because talk is cheap, you can say whatever you want.
SamerBerjawi said:
Thanks all for you replies, I appreciate that a lot.
Well I think it's obvious that my main thread is not about the camera, I'm basically asking about the two ROMs. You people just love to make a big deals about everything. Maybe because talk is cheap, you can say whatever you want.
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you asked and he answered.
In my experience the AOKP rom is a lot less stable than cm9, but much more configurable. I had this problem with aokp where the system UI would force close nonstop, which was unbelievably annoying, so I switched to cm9 and havent looked back.
That's odd. In my experience, CM9 was sluggish and FC'ing all the time - I'm on AOKP 32 now and haven't had a single FC I see everybody talking about... And it's much more snappier then stock rom!
I've a korean version though, so I'm not sure if that makes it any different. Only issue I have is a "rolling" screen when I boot up the system + first lock screen. Turn the screen off and back on, not a single problem. (but thats a issue with the korean tab I read)
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In my experience the AOKP rom is a lot less stable than cm9, but much more configurable. I had this problem with aokp where the system UI would force close nonstop, which was unbelievably annoying, so I switched to cm9 and havent looked back.
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i just installed AOKP build 33, it's really nice but as said before, the System UI FC is really annoying, and the nav bar keeps on autohiding. however, when I disabled the nav bar glow, the system UI doesn't FC anymore. I'll test AOKP for a while, and then I'll try CM9. I have finals on monday, so I won't be able to switch a lot between roms.
thanks all for your help
just got another SysUI FC, seems that nav bar glow didn't solve the problem.
I have AOKP Build 34 installed and it is snappy and fast. I'll be checking out the CM9 nightly this weekend, so I'll let you know.
Rob
I've tried both AOKP ICS and CM9 ICS on my samsung galaxy tab 10.1. For me, the CM9 feels smoother, but the AOKP gives more ROM control features. For now, I'd like a smooth tablet..
cm9 or aokp
I have the cm9 in my 10.1 wifi now and I like it but when you multi task the launcher crashes frequently, although it does restart quickly.
The screen flickers often as many people have mentioned as well
Other than that its pretty good
The best part is the loss of touchwiz UI. The feel of touch operations is so much more responsive and smooth
Pershoot ICS builds
I have been using Pershoots latest builds on my tab, and things are fine but for the occasional flicker.
AOKP definately has more option for ROM control, and UI customization too. It allows for 5 icons instead of the standard three, and allows for setting custom options for long press of these icons. .
I reverted to CM9 though because even P5 AOKP is quite buggy. Some times you can't place the icons from the app drawer on a screen ( the screen just rotates twice), touch sensitivity seemed to be lesser.
The touch sensitivity on the pershoots build is quite good. I am able to comfortably play Temple Run, which used to be a disaster before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1528529
This thread might help you.
anushajayanti said:
I have been using Pershoots latest builds on my tab, and things are fine but for the occasional flicker.
AOKP definately has more option for ROM control, and UI customization too. It allows for 5 icons instead of the standard three, and allows for setting custom options for long press of these icons. .
I reverted to CM9 though because even P5 AOKP is quite buggy. Some times you can't place the icons from the app drawer on a screen ( the screen just rotates twice), touch sensitivity seemed to be lesser.
The touch sensitivity on the pershoots build is quite good. I am able to comfortably play Temple Run, which used to be a disaster before.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1528529
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I've been running cm9 on my tab for about a month now. I'm currently using pershoot's newest and it runs perfect.
Scotty
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Time to scrap the TB?

When the TB first came out it felt very snappy, very smooth and fairly quick. Rooted it and after some time it just seems to have no hope and I dont know why. I have flashed almost every Rom out there and it seems to work fine for a little bit and then within a week it is back to its VERY laggy performance. When the S3 came out, I got that and my wife wanted my TB. She is getting tired of me playing around with the phone and trying to get a performance fix and just wants a new phone. Should I try to unroot it and run it stock for her? Otherwise she may look at the moto razr M or the inc 4g. (not a phone I would have, but its not up to me)
The phone slowing down may be certain apps impacting performance, so you may want to look into that. Also if you haven't already I would ditch sense based roms and give AOSP a try.
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When the TB first came out it felt very snappy, very smooth and fairly quick. Rooted it and after some time it just seems to have no hope and I dont know why. I have flashed almost every Rom out there and it seems to work fine for a little bit and then within a week it is back to its VERY laggy performance. When the S3 came out, I got that and my wife wanted my TB. She is getting tired of me playing around with the phone and trying to get a performance fix and just wants a new phone. Should I try to unroot it and run it stock for her? Otherwise she may look at the moto razr M or the inc 4g. (not a phone I would have, but its not up to me)
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The aosp ICS is snappy but a few things don't work. I haven't tried there sense version but heard good things.
The Gnex is a free upgrade btw
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In my opinion, sense based roms are slower & have more lag than than others. It is pretty much up to you, or your wife, to let you know what she wants. I was really looking forward to trying out the newest AOSP 4.0.4 ICS by twistedumbrella. Have you tried this yet? I haven't been able to get past the "bootloop" but it seems that some are & some aren't. I believe you'd love the rom if it works on your TB.
Keep in mind all aosp liquid/twisted builds the video recording does not work. Knowing most women camera and camcorder is a must lol.
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Dark Jedi said:
Keep in mind all aosp liquid/twisted builds the video recording does not work. Knowing most women camera and camcorder is a must lol.
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This is some good advice for the OP. I recall running a deodexed 2.7 or something a while back that would probably work well for the OP. It is sense based but it was very stable and everything works.
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Otherwise she may look at the moto razr M or the inc 4g. (not a phone I would have, but its not up to me)
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If she's looking for something that is smoother with less lag then stock definitely won't bring her that. If you're able, I'd look into getting a newer phone. The Thunderbolt is at its end of life.
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Quick ParanoidAndroid ROM question

Okay, I have been on Jelly Beans ROMs since practically build 1, it seems. I have never tried out another ROM on this device. Something here lately has really gotten my attention though, and that is the "Halo" usage from ParanoidAndroid ROMs. I spent almost an hour last night reading through the bazillion pages on the Original Android Development tab for this ROM (PA). There were so many mixed reviews about what works and what doesn't on the latest release that I am not sure what to think.
My question is, ultimately, is there a build of ParanoidAndroid for VZW Note 2 that is "mostly" bug free (GPS, graphical issues, etc)? I even looked at JellyBam, but there is even less of a clear message with that ROM. I need something for a daily driver and really don't want to have to do work arounds for the things I typically do on my device (Phone Calls to Netflix and all between).
Anyone have any ideas? Like I said, the only build of Paranoid I could find was the newly released one that looks to be built off Android 4.3 (Cyanogenmod, I assume). If that is the case, from what I have read, there are a few things that aren't tied up completely on it. Older build of Paranoid maybe? (Where do I find that?)
Thanks for the help guys.
Kenobi
You can try the 4.2.2 version of paranoid android if you want to be conservative. I think it was 3.68 or something
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kenobi112 said:
Okay, I have been on Jelly Beans ROMs since practically build 1, it seems. I have never tried out another ROM on this device. Something here lately has really gotten my attention though, and that is the "Halo" usage from ParanoidAndroid ROMs. I spent almost an hour last night reading through the bazillion pages on the Original Android Development tab for this ROM (PA). There were so many mixed reviews about what works and what doesn't on the latest release that I am not sure what to think.
My question is, ultimately, is there a build of ParanoidAndroid for VZW Note 2 that is "mostly" bug free (GPS, graphical issues, etc)? I even looked at JellyBam, but there is even less of a clear message with that ROM. I need something for a daily driver and really don't want to have to do work arounds for the things I typically do on my device (Phone Calls to Netflix and all between).
Anyone have any ideas? Like I said, the only build of Paranoid I could find was the newly released one that looks to be built off Android 4.3 (Cyanogenmod, I assume). If that is the case, from what I have read, there are a few things that aren't tied up completely on it. Older build of Paranoid maybe? (Where do I find that?)
Thanks for the help guys.
Kenobi
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I'm running build 3.99, have been for a month now. Out of 10 I give it a..... 10. There's really no bugs at all, I hardly get graphical issues but they do exist. I got a GPS lock and you can by getting a lock in a tw ROM in maps, then immediately flashing as you would a normal rom. But honestly this is my favorite ROM I've had on all my android phones so fast and stable and great battery life. Hope this helps.
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wtoj34 said:
I'm running build 3.99, have been for a month now. Out of 10 I give it a..... 10. There's really no bugs at all, I hardly get graphical issues but they do exist. I got a GPS lock and you can by getting a lock in a tw ROM in maps, then immediately flashing as you would a normal rom. But honestly this is my favorite ROM I've had on all my android phones so fast and stable and great battery life. Hope this helps.
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I think I am going to go with to go with a 4.2.2 ROM just for overall stability.
In regards to gapps, is the general rule of thumb just to use the most recent?
kenobi112 said:
I think I am going to go with to go with a 4.2.2 ROM just for overall stability.
In regards to gapps, is the general rule of thumb just to use the most recent?
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Yeah basically. Just make sure you download the one for 4.2.2 not a 4.3 gapps
Okay, got version 3.68 installed and proper gapps. Haven't had time to really dive in to get everything set up. Everything is running smooth and quick. The only issue I have at the moment is that I can't get a 4g connection.
Any ideas?
Thanks for all the help thus far.
Kenobi

The most rock-solid stable ROM 4.0-4.4??

Now that I've got my ZUGPe my Note is going into semi retirement as mp3 player / cycling gps / htpc remote and I don't care so much about features and customizing as I do about stabiltiy now. I have dealt with varying degrees of instability with many many CM and AOKP variations to stay on Vanilla-ish Android. I really really really hate Touchwiz, but do I have to go back to Touchwiz to get something really stable? I'll cut you off and say maybe my phone just never agreed with CM or AOKP so even if yours is stable mine never quite got there, never more than 2-3 days without a RR or lockup, and usually several RR each day. My old Incredible on CM goes nearly a month before an issue creeps up but to be fair it doesn't get a ton of use. Neither will the Note so I just want something solid and dependable, rather than cutting-edge. Thanks for tossing your opinions at me!
You seem to be very aware that this a loaded question and knowledgable to the fact that what runs good on one, may not on another, so I will respond to this.
I am in the same boat as you and do still enjoy the Note, even though semi- retiring it.
At the moment I am swapping back and forth on 2 roms to determine which I like best. They are older roms and never had a hiccup from neither.
Rootbox and Sons of Android.
I am having trouble however. I like them both.
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You seem to be very aware that this a loaded question and knowledgable to the fact that what runs good on one, may not on another, so I will respond to this.
I am in the same boat as you and do still enjoy the Note, even though semi- retiring it.
At the moment I am swapping back and forth on 2 roms to determine which I like best. They are older roms and never had a hiccup from neither.
Rootbox and Sons of Android.
I am having trouble however. I like them both.
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Hmmmmmm I never tried sons of android gotta try that. If ya want my opinion every i717 runs different. I've had good stable experience s with padawan, black star, and aokp 4.4 . There rock solid and the forums for them are very helpful. Now going to find sons of android lol
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SgtTeabag said:
Hmmmmmm I never tried sons of android gotta try that. If ya want my opinion every i717 runs different. I've had good stable experience s with padawan, black star, and aokp 4.4 . There rock solid and the forums for them are very helpful. Now going to find sons of android lol
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its PT's also
Carbonrom V 1.8
I too am not happy with touchwiz roms. And seemed always returning to one of pt's builds because they are for me rock solid. But TW.
I have flashed a bunch of roms, and try most any AOSP, AOCP, AOKP, CM, ... searching for a stable daily driver that works all the time.
I have been running Carbon Rom V 1.8 it's 4.2.2 and for my phone stable. Very stable. ALL my phone functions work perfectly, call quality, speaker phone, bluetooth, even my call recording app works. Camera, video, all good.
Really happy with this one. Battery life is a bit better too. If that is even possible with the i717.
I had been trying the nightly builds, and the huber kernel. But was getting an occasional lock up reboot, etc..
Had given up and went back to ol faithful Padawan.
Then found a Carbon Rom release version for our i717, Version 1.8. I did a full wipe, data, cache, and flashed it with TWRP. And the gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip.
No OC but it runs fine without it. Haven't tried the huber kernel with this version, and don't plan to.
HTH
James
i717 said:
I too am not happy with touchwiz roms. And seemed always returning to one of pt's builds because they are for me rock solid. But TW.
I have flashed a bunch of roms, and try most any AOSP, AOCP, AOKP, CM, ... searching for a stable daily driver that works all the time.
I have been running Carbon Rom V 1.8 it's 4.2.2 and for my phone stable. Very stable. ALL my phone functions work perfectly, call quality, speaker phone, bluetooth, even my call recording app works. Camera, video, all good.
Really happy with this one. Battery life is a bit better too. If that is even possible with the i717.
I had been trying the nightly builds, and the huber kernel. But was getting an occasional lock up reboot, etc..
Had given up and went back to ol faithful Padawan.
Then found a Carbon Rom release version for our i717, Version 1.8. I did a full wipe, data, cache, and flashed it with TWRP. And the gapps-jb-20130812-signed.zip.
No OC but it runs fine without it. Haven't tried the huber kernel with this version, and don't plan to.
HTH
James
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However, not to be technical, but its "Uber".
For Bulldogs function and for mine, we are not using phone function anymore. Just a sort of mini tablet.
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I would base this question on "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".... She also has the 717, but won't let me put my dirty mitts on it That being said, without question I would put AOKP 4.4.2 on it if she finally relented. One of the most stable I have run, and blownfuze said he has no intention of giving up his note anytime soon. Which means we will get support for a while on that one.
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:highfive:Yes, that is a great analogy, "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".
Only trouble is her phone is the i317. Carbon does have a release for her phone, but she likes the Jedi X version I have on hers.
I will have to re-investigate the latest AOKP 4.4.2 . I did briefly look at it and didn't get much past the known issues. Glad he fixed them.
I appreciate the developers here, and all the time they spend working and tweaking these ROMS.
However this Carbon works great for my i717. Camcorder, camera, gallery, all working fine. Bluetooth, etc.
I have had only one complaint about speaker phone echo, and I couldn't hear it on my end. When my wife called me from her note 2. I use the speaker phone option on about 1/2 my calls.
Thank you captemo for catching the miss spelled kernel. Wouldn't want someone searching for a mis-spelled anything! :good:
I hope this thread finds it's way to others still loyal to the i717 wanting something other than TW based ROMS. Retired or not, I like everything the device has to operate, reliably.
I did DL "Sons of Android" a couple weeks ago, and the .rar files opened up into something other than a ROM. Guess that one is gone?
i717 said:
:highfive:Yes, that is a great analogy, "which ROM would I flash on my wife's phone".
Only trouble is her phone is the i317. Carbon does have a release for her phone, but she likes the Jedi X version I have on hers.
I will have to re-investigate the latest AOKP 4.4.2 . I did briefly look at it and didn't get much past the known issues. Glad he fixed them.
I appreciate the developers here, and all the time they spend working and tweaking these ROMS.
However this Carbon works great for my i717. Camcorder, camera, gallery, all working fine. Bluetooth, etc.
I have had only one complaint about speaker phone echo, and I couldn't hear it on my end. When my wife called me from her note 2. I use the speaker phone option on about 1/2 my calls.
Thank you captemo for catching the miss spelled kernel. Wouldn't want someone searching for a mis-spelled anything! :good:
I hope this thread finds it's way to others still loyal to the i717 wanting something other than TW based ROMS. Retired or not, I like everything the device has to operate, reliably.
I did DL "Sons of Android" a couple weeks ago, and the .rar files opened up into something other than a ROM. Guess that one is gone?
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I just posted link the other day and gapps for it too
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I thought aokp 4.4.2 and all kit kat roms had issues with the display going crazy especially related to games and lock screens. I though the camcorder doesn't work yet for aokp. I am in the same boat. My s4 died so I am back to the old note. I am going to try carbon 1.8 or sons on android, as those are the only download links I can find. Thanks for this post.
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Thank you captemo for the direction of the Sons of Android files.:good:
I did DL them. My connection must have been wonky.
I had issues with the Gapps file. It must have been a bad download for me. Tried twice. Got the ROM to load up fine, but without Gapps I didn't get a good testing done. I was using TWRP.
Without an MD5 to be sure my DL was good I probably shouldn't have tried it.
So I reinstalled Carbon V1.8 from my BU.
Since my last post, I did have a FC and reboot related to my BeWeather App. I have also had issues with this App in TW based ROMs I've tried.
I don't load allot of Apps, or run many programs. And the ones I can Greenify, I do. Maybe this is why Carbon works for me?:fingers-crossed:
I reset my weather App to update manually when I use it now. I think it updating as the program opens has been the trouble.
Is there a problem with Auto-Brightness on non TW roms? My display flickers when I unlock my screen. This happened on 4.4.2 roms and 4.2.2 carbon 1.8. Is there a simple fix I am forgetting?
The auto bright setting on the non TW based ROMs I have tried have not been as smooth as TW ROMs. I set the auto function off, and set it to low.
Some of the non TW based ROMs have the slide your finger across the top of the screen to manually adjust brightness. Nice feature.
I went back to the download dropbox provided by captemo and re-downloaded the files, and got a good clean ROM and Gapps. :good:
I am using "Sons Of Android" now, and like it very much! So far so good!
Thank you, captemo :good:

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