Bought my dad a replacement Photon 4G off of Amazon. Tried to do a ESN swap online and was instructed to call Sprint. They're saying that the ESN on the phone is not showing up in their system. Now I'm no newbie when it comes to phones. I've sold almost every carrier there is and I've been rooting,flashing, unlocking and jailbreaking device for a couple of years now. But I'm looking at a almost brand-new looking, Sprint branded, Sprint bloatware loaded Motorola Photon 4G. I've searched high and low on here (XDA) and everywhere else online to no avail. Any ideas? By the way I did contact the seller and the phone was a warranty replacement and emailed me a copy of he paperwork from Motorola
I'd take it in to a Sprint store and have them give it a shot. Unless the ESN is bad (doesn't sound likely), it should work fine.
Try Ting.com see if it there's.
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Tried that. Not in their system either.. A Mobile IP unknown warning keeps popping up to...
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Try Ting.com see if it there's.
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My phone was the same way. Neither recognized by Sprint or Motorola. Turned out that my phone was likely a development phone for testing gsm and had a unique radio. You might have to use yours on a gsm carrier whether or not the baseband you have is unique. Just out of curiosity, what is your phone's baseband?
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My phone was the same way. Neither recognized by Sprint or Motorola. Turned out that my phone was likely a development phone for testing gsm and had a unique radio. You might have to use yours on a gsm carrier whether or not the baseband you have is unique. Just out of curiosity, what is your phone's baseband?
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That is different from mine. If you can use a gsm carrier for this phone, you could flash the kidi radio and use any gsm carrier you like.
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Wouldn't work because my dad has Sprint. Anyhoo the seller sent me another Photon and allowed me to keep the first one. Now my dad is up and running. I'll take your advice and flash the kidi radio for it but I'd still like to know what's up with the original phone.. Thanks!
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That is different from mine. If you can use a gsm carrier for this phone, you could flash the kidi radio and use any gsm carrier you like.
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Kinda sounds like someone mighta swapped the wrong sticker for the ESN .. If it doesn't show up in the system. Glad you got another one.
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Will the note run on the sprint network if i buy one unlocked? It shows it runs on their frequency but i have never bought a phone unlocked and tried to get it on a network that does not carry that phone in their line up. Will it work with sprint network? I want it bad but want to make sure before i get one. Im in love with that bad boy. Anyone with better tech knowledge than me please let me know
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If it's not Sprint branded they won't activate it.
That fn sucks
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Will the note run on the sprint network if i buy one unlocked? It shows it runs on their frequency but i have never bought a phone unlocked and tried to get it on a network that does not carry that phone in their line up. Will it work with sprint network? I want it bad but want to make sure before i get one. Im in love with that bad boy. Anyone with better tech knowledge than me please let me know
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Runs on their frequency but not on CDMA the unlocked phone is GSM only (att; tmob) so yeah, can't use it at all. Quite the shame, I would love to get me a Note.
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Runs on their frequency but not on CDMA the unlocked phone is GSM only (att; tmob) so yeah, can't use it at all. Quite the shame, I would love to get me a Note.
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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If the gms is the same as in the states, yep...
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If it's not Sprint branded they won't activate it.
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Found that out the hard way a long time ago
Tmobile has changed a lot, they are just flat turning into thieves with a business license now. Never switch to a carrier just for the devices they can run, that is just plain not smart, at all.
I am not trying to be offensive, I do have your best interest in mind. With how fast devices are pushed out, there will be one that is better and what you want in 6 months time. So it doesn't make sense to move to a carrier for the phones. You will just get yourself locked into some contract that (Tmobile especially) keeps updating to strip more freedom and cost to to you.
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So i could get it and it would be able to work with tmobile? I would go with them if i had to to get the phone. I was with them once before anyway with the hd2
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Double check on the actual bands it supports; 3G especially considering the fact that tmob uses their own 3G unlike most other GSM carriers.
Aka it should work fine... BUT it might be stuck on EDGE at all times. Not cool.
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I got my Amaze bootloader unlocked and rooted, wondering how to unlock it for other GSM carriers such as AT&T
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Hi all
I got my Amaze bootloader unlocked and rooted, wondering how to unlock it for other GSM carriers such as AT&T
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One of 2 ways to SIM unlock your phone. call T-Mobile or find a site online that sells unlock codes. If the phone is still under contract you might have a hard time with T-Mobile unless you tell them your traveling and need to be able to use a different SIM.
cellunlock.net
http://www.cellunlock.net
they just did my motorola atrix only took a day to get the code, worked perfectly.
my contract was only 2 months old, service had already been disconnected for nonpayment, and i still owe at&t like $400 dollars, didnt matter.
and htc phones are on sale for only $20, my atrix was twice as much
edit-just remember the wireless bands at&t uses for data are different then for t-mobile (i forgot about that part, very expensive mistake...)
I would highly recommend using an eBay seller of unlock codes with feedback. You don't have to worry about getting screwed over because eBay covers you and plus sellers always have to worry about being left negative feedback.
Htcimeiunlock.com are very fast! I've used them with unlocking an Inspire and Sensation, took under ten mins for the code to return via email.
Cheers!
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I just unlocked mine right now, last night I was on the phone with tmobile and told them "I will be leaving the country in 1 month since I am paying for the full retail price of the phone I would like to unlock it." And I wake up this morning with an email with my unlock code and instructions!!
So I inserted an att sim card and the fastest speed I saw was of about 1.5 mbps but most of the time it was like .9 so no data besides 2g edge.
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I just unlocked mine right now, last night I was on the phone with tmobile and told them "I will be leaving the country in 1 month since I am paying for the full retail price of the phone I would like to unlock it." And I wake up this morning with an email with my unlock code and instructions!!
So I inserted an att sim card and the fastest speed I saw was of about 1.5 mbps but most of the time it was like .9 so no data besides 2g edge.
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I beleive the t mobile amaze has the required bands as well for At&t 850/1900 so you should be getting 4g.
To get 3g you have to mannually set up the apn.
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or flash quiksense automaticly detects it on install
Well I used my parents BlackBerry sim and dads iPhone sim but neither are 4g.
I later figured I had to set up the apn for att 3g but hadn't had time for that. And I and running your latest quick sense rom X.
So I'm guessing I have to have a 4g enabled sim card to get att 4g?
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Can you buy these unlocked? Im still looking around to upgrade and ive been looking at a few different phones. AT&T is the best carrier in my area so id like to stick with them, but i dont like the phones they have. I know the Vivid is similar spec wise to this phone, but it doesn't look at good imo. (i dont like the square brick look)..
Why does AT&T not bring in the better looking phones :|
Yeah you can but if your gonna pay full retail price just call the carrier of the phone tell them you bought the phone itself and need to unlock it. Or by from someone on craigslist already unlocked
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I have a friend who does it for $25 , let me know if you are willing to do it.
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Yeah you can but if your gonna pay full retail price just call the carrier of the phone tell them you bought the phone itself and need to unlock it. Or by from someone on craigslist already unlocked
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hua? you mean buy it From the carrier then have them unlock it?
I think you can do that but that's too much money. Your better off on craigslist and have it unlocked online.
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Well I used my parents BlackBerry sim and dads iPhone sim but neither are 4g.
I later figured I had to set up the apn for att 3g but hadn't had time for that. And I and running your latest quick sense rom X.
So I'm guessing I have to have a 4g enabled sim card to get att 4g?
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that's because iphone's don't support 4g and i'm not sure about bb's but i think possibly only the newest and latest ones support 4g? (not sure)
but overall they only support 3g speed on at&t.
Furthermore, there was another thread where they said if you have an at&t data plan, you need to call in and tell them to update your data plan to a 4g data plan, it's no difference in cost, but apparently there is a boost in speed. Im not sure about that one because i'm on tmobile.
I honestly think that sim cards doesn't affect data speed.
@op who has not replied lol
if you're on at&t then call tmobile. They'll ask for your customer information, tell them you're not a customer but need to be directed to someone who can unlock their tmobile phone. Since you're not a customer, they will hassle you less because they won't be asking all these needless questions why you need it unlocked and etc, but they will probably try to get you to join them. anyways most of the times the rep will be happy to help you right away. But there are a few uhhh not so happy reps who will give you **** for it. If that happens, call again and talk to another rep. You have to remember there are people on the other side of the phone, most of the time the people will be glad to help.
I just got my HTC Amaze from my employee plan and now am not working for them so they gave me the unlock code but how can I get the At&t Apn settings?
search for AT&T APN. There are countless posts for this, they are pretty much similar. If you are using custom rom such as Bulletproof it will auto detect based on your sim card.
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search for AT&T APN. There are countless posts for this, they are pretty much similar. If you are using custom rom such as Bulletproof it will auto detect based on your sim card.
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Or look at
FAQ for the HTC Amaze 4G. Read Frequently Asked Questions before you post a question! because there is a Q & A that says
Q - I unlocked my phone and I am using it on another carrier. Where can I get the settings for the Internet/MMS?
TMO unlock code
Usually TMO is pretty good about unlock code. If you have been with them for a while, it is easy. I bought my Amaze and got the unlock code the next few days. I was travelling and it worked great.
At&t has me buying a mandatory data plan(3gb) when I use about 300mb a month and that is because I purposely shut off wifi so I dont feel like a jackass for paying for something I do not use...
I have no need at all for data,I am always near a wifi spot,is there a way to make it seem like my smartphone is a dumbphone?
I have a bunch of att branded flip-phones laying around,is there a way to take the imei from of these and put it on the Note i717?
I'm sure if it is possible,it is complicated.Just wondering.
Thanks.
Buy a sim card for a dumbphone and put it in your smartphone
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I tried to do something similar.
I called At&t and told them that I wanted to use a flip phone and gave them the IMEI and everything,I used it for a few days and after I put it in an Atrix 2 I have.After 3 days I got a text saying they added a data plan for $20 to my account lol.
They can read the IMEI of the phone,if you call customer service,they can even tell you what sim is in what phone at that very moment.
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Buy a sim card for a dumbphone and put it in your smartphone
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I don't think that will work. I had that argument with at&t about not needing the data add-on for my sister-in-law's phone. She wanted the large screen for SMS and doesn't know the internet exists. I put an old 64k sim in the phone, and within the day the phone was cut off. After a call to at&t, they told me I need a data plan with the phone. They detect the type of phone.
Don't bring up the topic of phone cloning - its illegal and banned on xda, as it should be.
So it is "phone cloning"?
didnt know,thanks for the heads up.
I can understand making data mandatory on a subsidized phone but on one bought off contract,it is unfair.
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At&t has me buying a mandatory data plan(3gb) when I use about 300mb a month and that is because I purposely shut off wifi so I dont feel like a jackass for paying for something I do not use...
I have no need at all for data,I am always near a wifi spot,is there a way to make it seem like my smartphone is a dumbphone?
I have a bunch of att branded flip-phones laying around,is there a way to take the imei from of these and put it on the Note i717?
I'm sure if it is possible,it is complicated.Just wondering.
Thanks.
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Illegal, and will get caught by the carrier...
Activate a flip phone if you don't want a smart phone ...IMHO ....g
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I can understand making data mandatory on a subsidized phone but on one bought off contract,it is unfair.
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Believe me, brother, I'm in 100% agreement with you, but it's at&t's tune we dance to.
I think i am just going to sell this Note i717 and get a Nexus 7 for my tablet needs and pick up a tmobile branded galaxy s or something else cheap.
Pick up a Roger's I717R Note if you want to stay with this phone. ATT can't recognize the phone and won't put you on a data plan.
What kind of plan were you trying? Im using at&t prepaid and i havent been cut off
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Prepaid what? OP doesn't want data.
At&t no data just text,mms and calling
Using a sprint phone i gsm unlocked
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At&t no data just text,mms and calling
Using a sprint phone i gsm unlocked
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That doesn't make sense. Sprint phones are CDMA not GSM. Sprint network doesn't use a sim card to register. In other words, no sprint phone on at&t network.
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That doesn't make sense. Sprint phones are CDMA not GSM. Sprint network doesn't use a sim card to register. In other words, no sprint phone on at&t network.
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It says MOTOROLA PHOTON. NOT I717..... Not sure where you trying to go with pasting a thread that has no relation to us....
I am pretty sure no one has successfully been able to do this unless the phone has hardware for both radios GSM & CDMA
Yes it has ability for both thread i posted allow for domestic gsm
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A Motorola photon from sprint with a Japanese radio. . .glad it works for you. But its off topic and not helpful for the OP.
I've been using AT&T prepaid plan for a few years now, the GNote is my third phone with prepaid plan ($50/mo: unlimited calling, text, data{only for non-smart phones}) but I'm cool with that. So I don't see why you can't do the same.
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I've been using AT&T prepaid plan for a few years now, the GNote is my third phone with prepaid plan ($50/mo: unlimited calling, text, data{only for non-smart phones}) but I'm cool with that. So I don't see why you can't do the same.
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Exactly what i did
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I don't think that will work. I had that argument with at&t about not needing the data add-on for my sister-in-law's phone. She wanted the large screen for SMS and doesn't know the internet exists. I put an old 64k sim in the phone, and within the day the phone was cut off. After a call to at&t, they told me I need a data plan with the phone. They detect the type of phone.
Don't bring up the topic of phone cloning - its illegal and banned on xda, as it should be.
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To add to this comment. At&t will also know if you are using any smartphone from any network or assume its a smart phone I guess. My wife uses a galaxy s 4g exclusive to t-mobile for about 4 months now. Last week she was hit with the 3 gig addition as well. They dont even know what type of phone it is. All she did was turn on the data to download an sms and bam a day later she got the the email.
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Hi i have this motorola photon 4G and I was plan on getting it connect with sprint but I was told that it has a blocked esn. what does this exactly mean and is there a way I could unblock and will I still be able to us it with sprint
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Means it's a lost/stolen phone. No legal way to get around that and use it on Sprint
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Means it's a lost/stolen phone. No legal way to get around that and use it on Sprint
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This^^^
Basically it's a parts device now. Once they are reported as lost or stolen the carrier puts the ESN on a blacklist. Once this happens pretty much no one will activate it.
Might be able to do the GMS mod and use tmoble or ATT.
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coolkidz said:
Hi i have this motorola photon 4G and I was plan on getting it connect with sprint but I was told that it has a blocked esn. what does this exactly mean and is there a way I could unblock and will I still be able to us it with sprint
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What's the Android version? 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 ???
Where are you located?
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Found this with the search function, it's from last year, not sure if it's still accurate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975953&highlight=straight
"Flashing to Straight Talk" can vary, depending on how you want to go about it... Straight Talk has two types of service, CDMA and GSM, both of which will work on the Rezound to a varying degree.
The CDMA mode is as @mjones73 mentioned, and it required a donor phone to clone the ESN/MEID from to be activated. This will use Verizon service in 3G mode, which is kind of slow (about 600kbps in my area at best) but it will work. The practice of ESN cloning is... umm... questionable though technically possible.
The GSM mode requires a stockish global mode ROM, and a T-Mobile or AT&T SIM card from Straight Talk... Voice and SMS will work out of the box, MMS and data require a little tweaking. There are a few guides out there but @REV3NT3CH is working on a guide to get AT&T 4G on the Rezound... yes, I said 4G! I believe he also has/had 3G working on T-Mobile service with Straight Talk as well. Be patient, those guides will be coming soon, I know he is working on them and they should be ready soon.
I can help anybody flash their phone to straight talk PM me
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Just wondering if there was any update on the potential access to 4g for the Rezzy on Straight Talk. Saw it mentioned and have been thinking about flashing over to Straight Talk.
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Just wondering if there was any update on the potential access to 4g for the Rezzy on Straight Talk. Saw it mentioned and have been thinking about flashing over to Straight Talk.
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4G on Verizon (CDMA/LTE) will likely never be possible unless Verizon has a serious change of policy.
4G/LTE may be possible on an StraightTalk AT&T SIM, @REV3NT3CH keeps saying he has it working and will be putting out this step-by-step guide, but so far it seems just like a vaporous apparition.
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4G on Verizon (CDMA/LTE) will likely never be possible unless Verizon has a serious change of policy.
4G/LTE may be possible on an StraightTalk AT&T SIM, @REV3NT3CH keeps saying he has it working and will be putting out this step-by-step guide, but so far it seems just like a vaporous apparition.
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Um.. Typo maybe? Maybe I didn't read that right?
I'm on Verizon and I get 4g fine.
Maybe you meant GSM won't get 4g, or that Verizon phones won't get 4g on different networks?
Lol.
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Um.. Typo maybe? Maybe I didn't read that right?
I'm on Verizon and I get 4g fine.
Maybe you meant GSM won't get 4g, or that Verizon phones won't get 4g on different networks?
Lol.
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Sorry, I meant a phone with Straight Talk service using Verizon towers.
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Sorry, I meant a phone with Straight Talk service using Verizon towers.
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to answer all the confusion....the htc vigor (rezound) has all the bands to support it...they are just locked by default in the nv....its alot of hex coding and as i do get 4g i also noticed a few errors....like it confusing certain roms to default and do a weird lock and defaults back to cdma only after a few hours of usage on 4g....the reason for its delay on release is kitkat development
As far as gsm goes I didn't even hafta do anything I just popped in my sim card to stock and I could do calls texts yes both sending and receiving (but this is on T-Mobile gsm which should be similar) I haven't found a ROM yet (I'm on PAC man right now) that I can't get everything working on it without too much trouble (I don't have a data plan but I can get MMS to work which works through data)
Edit: (I couldn't get Gsm working on the 4.4 ROM) but that's it
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As far as gsm goes I didn't even hafta do anything I just popped in my sim card to stock and I could do calls texts yes both sending and receiving (but this is on T-Mobile gsm which should be similar) I haven't found a ROM yet (I'm on PAC man right now) that I can't get everything working on it without too much trouble (I don't have a data plan but I can get MMS to work which works through data)
Edit: (I couldn't get Gsm working on the 4.4 ROM) but that's it
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I'm actually working on a pure gsm kitkat for the rezound....i can also second that right now it doesnt work from straight flash....requires a few build.prop edits and to enter a special menu just to get calling and normal texting to work...data was hit or miss with the 4.4 on the main dev thread...i will also second that using a sim card for straight talk is much less of a hassle than actually flashing the carrier to your rezound and depending on the flash youll never be able to change your rom again without breaking the flash....i use their att version of their sim as tmobile has less likely of a chance to get 4g to ever work on the rezound.....i have gotten it to work with a certain model of their micro sim and sim adapter with a mass multitude of nv edits....
OK been thinking about moving to straight talk with my Rezound. I'm already rooted with custom rom cm10.2. Can I just put in an AT&T straight talk sim card and get 4g coverage? If not are there steps I can do to get 4g working?
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Uncleheff said:
OK been thinking about moving to straight talk with my Rezound. I'm already rooted with custom rom cm10.2. Can I just put in an AT&T straight talk sim card and get 4g coverage? If not are there steps I can do to get 4g working?
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no the highest you will get currently is 3g....however i am working on the NV edits (which is required to even get the 3g in the first place) to get full 4g which is only obtainable via the att micro sim and micro sim to normal sim adapter....also you will have to edit the apn settings to get data....same would go if you were to flash it....which just getting a sim is cheaper
Is it illegal to flash the Rezound, or any Verizon phone for that matter, to straight talk?
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Is it illegal to flash the Rezound, or any Verizon phone for that matter, to straight talk?
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No... why would you think that?
Now, if you do something like cloning a MEID/IMEI number, that might fall into a different category, but "flashing" a Rezound to Straight Talk (or most other carrier) involves little more then enabling some of the features and changing a few settings in the phone that are hidden, disabled, or limited by the default carrier.
I think part of the steps to flash the Rezound to get 3g coverage is to have a donor phone and clone it. So you're saying the cloning part would be illegal? What if you own the donor phone and the Rezound outright?
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I think part of the steps to flash the Rezound to get 3g coverage is to have a donor phone and clone it. So you're saying the cloning part would be illegal? What if you own the donor phone and the Rezound outright?
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So, you mean move it to Straight Talk CDMA service, not GSM? Different ballgame... ESN/MEID cloning for fraudulent purposes is clearly illegal, doing it yourself for devices you own is a very grey area, the law isn't as cut and dry, if you Google the question of ESN cloning you will find widely varied answers but nothing cut and dry.
I know people who have done it successfully for exactly the purpose and situation you describe and haven't had an issue, but at the same time if Straight Talk/PagePlus or whoever decided to push it, they could say you are performing fraud and possibly violating their terms of service as well since the device ESN is not just a radio identifier, it also is assigned by the manufacturer and registered with a specific device and specific capabilities.
All in all, its your call...no where have I seen this discussion come a black and white answer.
The difference with using SIMs between devices and ESN swapping is clear though and ruled not illegal as the capabilities and service are tied to the SIM and not the not the device itself, as although carriers may require the devices IMEI number for provisioning their services and prevention of fraudulent activities.
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So, you mean move it to Straight Talk CDMA service, not GSM? Different ballgame... ESN/MEID cloning for fraudulent purposes is clearly illegal, doing it yourself for devices you own is a very grey area, the law isn't as cut and dry, if you Google the question of ESN cloning you will find widely varied answers but nothing cut and dry.
I know people who have done it successfully for exactly the purpose and situation you describe and haven't had an issue, but at the same time if Straight Talk/PagePlus or whoever decided to push it, they could say you are performing fraud and possibly violating their terms of service as well since the device ESN is not just a radio identifier, it also is assigned by the manufacturer and registered with a specific device and specific capabilities.
All in all, its your call...no where have I seen this discussion come a black and white answer.
The difference with using SIMs between devices and ESN swapping is clear though and ruled not illegal as the capabilities and service are tied to the SIM and not the not the device itself, as although carriers may require the devices IMEI number for provisioning their services and prevention of fraudulent activities.
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I have a friend that wants me to help them get a Verizon phone working on straight talk and I want to make sure I'm not about to unknowingly do something illegal. That's why all the questions. Thanks for the help. Next question.....if the phone has gsm settings they could just switch to that for service and everything is legal? Also what kind of data speeds can be expected? 2g, 3g, or 4g (yea right!!!)?
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Uncleheff said:
I have a friend that wants me to help them get a Verizon phone working on straight talk and I want to make sure I'm not about to unknowingly do something illegal. That's why all the questions. Thanks for the help. Next question.....if the phone has gsm settings they could just switch to that for service and everything is legal? Also what kind of data speeds can be expected? 2g, 3g, or 4g (yea right!!!)?
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As I said, the legality is questionable... Its not black and white.
The Rezound is a Global Phone and has GSM capabilities to an extent... 2G/Edge is possible on all US GSM carriers, 3G/HSPA is possible on AT&T based networks with a compatible ROM. 4G/HSPA+ is marginally possible with a LOT of modding, @REV3NT3CH is kind of the master here on that. 4G/LTE is not possible on any non-VZW carrier.
That being said, the Rezound's GSM radios are not tuned for US carriers, so signal strength and data performance suffer.
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Uncleheff said:
I have a friend that wants me to help them get a Verizon phone working on straight talk and I want to make sure I'm not about to unknowingly do something illegal. That's why all the questions. Thanks for the help. Next question.....if the phone has gsm settings they could just switch to that for service and everything is legal? Also what kind of data speeds can be expected? 2g, 3g, or 4g (yea right!!!)?
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its lega las the rezound comes even with stock latest update with unlocked gsm capabilities...you just have to make certain edits to get the 3g to work...i used an att based sim for straight talk and was able to get really good 3g with the proper modifications to build.prop, ril, and nv edits