Ok, so I can not find more informations about kernel comparison, and I wanted to know the differences between theses 3 kernels:
VDS Kernel
Flykernel
SirKay's one
These three famous kernels are always linked but I do not understand the differences. Sirkay's one seem to be fully tweaked and all, but this is chinese to me.:silly:
Moreover, for a non gaming / Smooth / Great battery experience, which one should be used ?
Thanks in advance !
Do they ALL not state what is included, what isn't, what they're good for etc etc etc? Just try them and see.
Yeah, just saying that I'm a big noob in kernels... Understood that SirKay's one is fully charged of tweaks, and Vds is the lighter one, but can't figure what does Flykernel, what's inside and the main differences...
Gabrech said:
Yeah, just saying that I'm a big noob in kernels... Understood that SirKay's one is fully charged of tweaks, and Vds is the lighter one, but can't figure what does Flykernel, what's inside and the main differences...
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Flykernel has lot of tweaks..
Xkernel only some important tweaks like init.d,oc 1.6ghz,uv and also ext filesystem..
Vds is stock kernel with oc only
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I was wondering which kernel was the best to use? I do not want to install a custom rom but have a CWM just to add the MODS and such. My choices so far are the:
FXP Kernel
Rage Kernel
X Kernel
Kamrush Kernel
Bbooff Kernel
Can anyone tell me which ones saves the most battery and the fastest? Thanks
BudgyN1 said:
I was wondering which kernel was the best to use? I do not want to install a custom rom but have a CWM just to add the MODS and such. My choices so far are the:
FXP Kernel
Rage Kernel
X Kernel
Kamrush Kernel
Bbooff Kernel
Can anyone tell me which ones saves the most battery and the fastest? Thanks
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As for the fastest Rage kernel supports upto 2Ghz Overclocking, however it's not advisable to scale the processor that high. You can scale upto 1.6Ghz safely though, and there is a version available which can scale safely to 1.6Ghz.
As for battery endurance, you know overclocking and battery life don't go hand in hand. However you can try several CPU governors. Here is an excellent guide
ttp://androidforums.com/xperia-mini-all-things-root/513426-android-cpu-governors-explained.html
Sorry man, can't post links yet.
Maybe you should choose boff kernel, since it only add root and cwm. If you dont need overclock and other things
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ashwinsadeep said:
As for the fastest Rage kernel supports upto 2Ghz Overclocking, however it's not advisable to scale the processor that high. You can scale upto 1.6Ghz safely though, and there is a version available which can scale safely to 1.6Ghz.
As for battery endurance, you know overclocking and battery life don't go hand in hand. However you can try several CPU governors. Here is an excellent guide
ttp://androidforums.com/xperia-mini-all-things-root/513426-android-cpu-governors-explained.html
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X kernel supports also til 2Ghz.
My opinion, is that X kernel has more modifications to make it better than Rage Kernel.
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I have used all those kernel you mentioned, but x kernel is awesome.
Kamrush Kernel is really good
I tried bbooff then rage and then x.
Went back to rage.
Hybroman v16 was released, flashed back x.
Never changed it since...
curently using rage kernel. I wil try x too.
bboof + hybrom this simple rom minimalis
X kernel is really good, less than 1% battery per hour, overclock, governors, schedulers, everything working
Krsh kernel is really good, less than 1% battery per hour, overclock, governors, schedulers, everything working
I really couldn't find a difference between those two kernels, X kernel is more recent, since kamarush is now doing ICS (and he's doing an excellent job )
bboof is really good, less than 1% battery per hour, everything working
pretty much stock, only allows root, cwm, etc. very good choice for hybrom. might be best for people who don't like to go too much into technical details
I'll go for Kamarush Kernel or Rage Kernel on stock ROM..
or else if u use Custom ROM like Hybrom, or sumthing else, just follow the suggested kernel there..for example i'll use Bbooff Kernel for Hybrom, and Kamarush Kernel for MiniCMSandwich..
Guys what combination of rom and kernel do u most prefer for mni pro coz i been having a trial and error about this roms and kernel...tnx for the answers and explanation on why...
I am having the same issues. I find X Kernel gives the best battery life for Ginger Bread ROMs. I have yet to find a ROM that I am satisfied with. Currently I am running a rooted .62 and finding that to be the best balance. I have removed a bunch of apps based on the tutorial in this forum.
So far I've used the stock 4.0.4 ICS ROM with different kernels.
My most favorite kernels that were working are:
EXtended Stock Kernel - v2 4.1.B.0.431 (had a great battery usage... the most I got on-battery with this one was 22 hours with some light usage)
Rage Kernel v3.2 (i loved this one because of the swap and the ability to OC your CPU, but the battery performance was somewhat lower than the EXtended Stock Kernel - v2...)
You can always try the KRsH Kernel v3.0 but I didn't really like that one.
And currently I'm using the CM 9 RC1 ROM (check their official site) with FXP126 kernel and still testing the performance and stuff. So far I like this one more than all previous.
I hope this helps you out a little bit.
If you have any further questions, feel free to ask. And don't forget to hit the thanks button if this helped you a tiny bit
can you give me a link for tutorial for apps removing?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
This link has apps that can be safely removed from the Xperia Arc. I removed the same apps from the Mini Pro without issue. The apps can be removed using Titanium backup on a rooted device.
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Guys what combination of rom and kernel do u most prefer for mni pro coz i been having a trial and error about this roms and kernel...tnx for the answers and explanation on why...
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ICS ROMs are in my opinion still work in progress, buggy if you will.
KRsH kernel v3 is very good at battery consumption
For stability, speed etc I prefer GB ROMs though.
Like CM7.2RC3 + Rage kernel, or Spartan ROM if you like stock. Also on Rage.
In the end it depends what you like. There is no absolute best ROM or kernel.
everyone likes different things.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
This link has apps that can be safely removed from the Xperia Arc. I removed the same apps from the Mini Pro without issue. The apps can be removed using Titanium backup on a rooted device.
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take a look at this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1683399
tjfriese said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1089470
This link has apps that can be safely removed from the Xperia Arc. I removed the same apps from the Mini Pro without issue. The apps can be removed using Titanium backup on a rooted device.
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Thank You very much
how about the combination for gaming guys??? do u have any idea?
and if i am using ics wht should a choose?
ICS sucks.. Bravia doesn't work on my minipro if i dont use xperia gallery app
+1 .. IMHO i prefer to use GB than ICS for a better gaming performance..my current ROM is real ICS lite 29th june, and my kernel is Rage Kernel v3.2 (which i suggest you it's worth to try)..and when im playing some HD game it's still LAGGY (which is not laggy in my previous GB ROM) like Vlachmed said.. i choose this kernel because of its swap capability..i really wanna go back to GB but cant find my old ROM's thread.. (Hybrom V17) apparently the dev has left XdA (too bad)
sorry for my bad english and grammar..
Best Rom and Kernel
Personally I use Real ICS and the kernel is Rage Kernel v3.2 ICS and my phone runs very fast and smooth
Gingerbread
For Gingerbread you can try NeroDroid , and Rage Kernel 3.0
ok, so ive had a good thorough search for the answer but to no avail,so hopefully someone can help!
have an xperia mini running cm10 fxp135. runs really well on stock kernel but unfortunately the governors on the stock fxp kernel are limited. ( no smartass etc)
Im actually specifically looking at the rage kernel 3.2 which i have installed and works perfectly apart from the wifi is "greyed out", so effectively no wifi.
Any ideas or fixes for the wifi would be greatly appreciated. For now though, i will be going back to the fxp kernel as there really is nothing wrong with it, just want a few more tweaks that are available in the rage one!
thanks!
There is a WiFi fix in the thread... Or do you search a specific for jellybean? (There are wifi-modules-signed-zip, for flashing via cwm I think, but Do a Backup before!)
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hi,
thanks for the quick reply!
yes, ideally i am wanting a specific kernel for jellybean (other than the FXP kernel included in the rom package for cm10)
the FXP one is perfectly fine, but it would just be nice to have a few more govenors etc!
i know theres a guy who has compiled an extended jellybean kernel for the mini pro, but not for the mini unfortunately.
in terms of the rage kernel, thanks for pointing out the wifi modules! completely overlooked them! i know i have some random modules on my sd card,but cant remember where they are from!! ha!
will flash the kernel (which is really meant for CM9, but seems ok) and modules tomorrow! hopefully if all works well i wont need a specific jellybean kernel after all!
cheers for the help(clicked the thanks) and if you know of an extended xperia mini kernel then point it my way!
Hello guys. Those of you, who have been monitoring ray's dev section, know, that there is such a kernel for GB, as "pure emerald' or "aire's" kernel. But its problem is that it's for GB So i decided to do this kernel for ICS. I'm from russia and 4pda, and on our forum we don't like many "svistoperdelkas", which means that we don't like to have many useless (and sometimes not stable) features.
So, you can understand now, why there are no many features in my kernel which you can find in sirkay's kernel, for example. The advantage of such a kernel is that there is no any trash in it, only main things.
Features:
Clean ramdisk
Removed Fota
ext2, ext3, ext4, vfat, ntfs support
USB OTG support
Init.d support
Linaro
DooMKernel recovery (it's the best, IMHO)
Added smartass2 governor (a very battery friendly one)
Swap, ZRam
2way call recording (uses CallRecoder by skvalex)
And now smth really new (for my kernel at least). Now YOU choose what OC to use. I've got 3 versions of this kernel.
1) 1.4 OC + uv (very battery friendly)
2) 1.4 OC no uv (for those ones, where uv causes random reboots) (not so battery friendly)
3) 1.6 OC + vdd. (not battery friendly at all, only for performance)
Download - link
One more thing. You can either believe it or not. But still. My HDD is dying. First 4GB of it are already covered with bad blocks. Also, the 10th GB is "bad". These bad blocks are "hardware". My linux is installed somewhere at 40th gb, but i think it won't take very long untill it's dead too. The first version of my kernel was downloaded for 260 times. Not so much as on 4pda (2000+ ), but still quite a lot. If every person who have downloaded it donated 1$ for me - i could buy a new HDD. So, if you are not indifferent to me and my HDD, please, donate to me thanks in advance
Wow!!! Finally a new kernel!
I hope it's battery friendly :laugh:
Aire kernel was my favourite GB kernel
Best regards
:good:Tnx,this is just what i needed....flashed&testing...
:good:
P.s.: I don't like "svistoperdelkas" too...
flashed, i'm trying it :good:
Finally new dev kernel.. Welcome dude! Can I use this kernel for MIUI?
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frogerra said:
Finally new dev kernel.. Welcome dude! Can I use this kernel for MIUI?
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yep.it works perfectly on every stock-based rom
support init.d?
I've been looking forward to this.
no, no init.d. but i'll to try add it in next version.
vdsirotkin said:
we don't like many "svistoperdelkas"
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'Gimmicks' or 'bells and whistles'.
upd: also add to theme string tag [ICS] at the beginning.
[KRNL][ICS] VDS kernel v1.0 (11/10)
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vdsirotkin said:
no, no init.d. but i'll to try add it in next version.
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wil wait for your next version.
can i use it with CM10 ?
konikpk said:
can i use it with CM10 ?
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no. i'm not sure, but 99% that no
vdsirotkin said:
Hello guys. Those of you, who have been monitoring ray's dev section, know, that there is such a kernel for GB, as "pure emerald' or "aire's" kernel. But its problem is that it's for GB So i decided to do this kernel for ICS. I'm from russia and 4pda, and on our forum we don't like many "svistoperdelkas", which means that we don't like to have many useless (and sometimes not stable) features.
So, you can understand now, why there are no many features in my kernel which you can find in sirkay's kernel, for example. The advantage of such a kernel is that there is no any trash in it, only main things.
Features:
OC (aka overclock) up to 1.4 gHz
UV aka undervolt
DooMKernel recovery (it's the best, IMHO)
Added smartass2 governor (a very battery friendly one)
Swap, ZRam
2way call recording (uses CallRecoder by skvalex)
Thats all A superlight kernel, as you can see Hope, that some of you share our (4pda guys') ideals in kernel features. Good luck!
Download
BTW, if you want to support my kernel (i don't believe in that ), you can donate to me thanks in advance
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how do you define "svistoperdelkas" in kernel? debugging enabled in defconfig? what features my kernel have that yours dont?
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how do you define "svistoperdelkas" in kernel? debugging enabled in defconfig? what features my kernel have that yours dont?
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wow wow, i didn't want to hurt you
OC up to 1.6, many governors, I\O shedulers and everything like that
vdsirotkin said:
wow wow, i didn't want to hurt you
OC up to 1.6, many governors, I\O shedulers and everything like that
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sirkay said:
how do you define "svistoperdelkas" in kernel? debugging enabled in defconfig? what features my kernel have that yours dont?
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Calm,my friends,i think that you have two different approach in kernel compiling,vdsirotkin's one is good for battery,while sirkay's one is more"experimental" and good for performance,no-one is better than another:simply they are different..:beer::beer::beer:
Inviato da me!
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wow wow, i didn't want to hurt you
OC up to 1.6, many governors, I\O shedulers and everything like that
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whats wrong with oc to 1.6?? my ray is stable at 1.6 so thats fine for me, nobody forces u to oc, same for governors and shedulers, not a good thing to point at another devs work and telling thats bad mine better
and arcatarc im not sure that the "simple" kernel is more battery frindle or more stable, will test during the weekand
funiewski said:
whats wrong with oc to 1.6?? my ray is stable at 1.6 so thats fine for me, nobody forces u to oc, same for governors and shedulers, not a good thing to point at another devs work and telling thats bad mine better
and arcatarc im not sure that the "simple" kernel is more battery frindle or more stable, will test during the weekand
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even if it's stable, not a very great speed advantage does not worth battery drain.
vdsirotkin said:
wow wow, i didn't want to hurt you
OC up to 1.6, many governors, I\O shedulers and everything like that
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arcatarc said:
Calm,my friends,i think that you have two different approach in kernel compiling,vdsirotkin's one is good for battery,while sirkay's one is more"experimental" and good for performance,no-one is better than another:simply they are different..:beer::beer::beer:
Inviato da me!
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im not mad, just my curiosity to know how do you define "trash". if that so, then me too dont like "svistoperdelkas". i always made 2 version, one for users (with features they've requested) and one for me (with only smartassv2 and intellidemand gov, freq max 806mhz, dont UV, didnt use zram, disabled debugging, disabled unused modules).
Hey guys, i'm running CM10 by M66B (421) the last release by him and i was wondering what's the most suitable kernel which i could use for it. I need performance (gaming) and battery life. I currently am on the stock nAa by M66B which was included in a zip and i thought if there is a more suitable kernel out there, i should try it. The only problem is that i don't have enough time to try all JB kernels at the moment (though i tried nAa 3.0.8 kernel 3) and it does have battery problems.
Another request is to how to get the maximum performance on CM10 M66B? What do you guys suggest should i try?
Thanks a lot,
Ishan
Everyone has different choices. What may seem good for one person, may not be suitable for the needs of the other. You can try reading the comments of diffent JB kernels to know about their performance. And xda dosen't allow comparing between roms/kernel.
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ishanbhatnagr96 said:
Hey guys, i'm running CM10 by M66B (421) the last release by him and i was wondering what's the most suitable kernel which i could use for it. I need performance (gaming) and battery life. I currently am on the stock nAa by M66B which was included in a zip and i thought if there is a more suitable kernel out there, i should try it. The only problem is that i don't have enough time to try all JB kernels at the moment (though i tried nAa 3.0.8 kernel 3) and it does have battery problems.
Another request is to how to get the maximum performance on CM10 M66B? What do you guys suggest should i try?
Thanks a lot,
Ishan
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Hmmm...there NOTHING more suitable kernel for CM10 Extended Roms by M66B than its own kernel made special for his roms...the roms and kernel are made to to help each other, making your phone as stable and usable for daily use..