Simple question really...
In the DEV sections, why is there not one for ATT and one for international devices ??
People will get confused, and devices can proberbly get bricked from that alone, and that is just stupid...
Pleace split ATT from international section....
People won't get confused if they take the trouble to read. This has been discussed before.
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If you would have used the search funtion you would have found an answer. Also this is in the wrong section seeing as it is a question.
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I'm not really sure how anyone can defend the lack of separation in this forum. And the easy (and silly) way out is to simply say "read".
Everyone was outraged when they combined the S3 forums and after a couple of weeks of people complaining, they finally started (correctly) separating them. They need to do the same with this device's forum.
well if people can READ then they won't come into issues
Take it as you want...
It WAS only ment as a friendly heads up...
You are offcourse right that people can just read the header, provided that headers or at least the OP say it all, consequently at all threads...
But then again...
In the heat of the moment, I do understand if people can grab files from the wrong thread... And end up with a bricked device...
You actually also ask people to know that ATT and Telus is not just names of some odd features, and that it in fact carriers using different hardware, from the other site of the world...
Carriers that some people proberbly have never even heard about before...
And the other way arround, you need to get ATT and Telus users to understand that they can only use those files/roms, and that they can't use "international" and often unmarked roms...
- you need to make them to understand that "international" is not that international after all...
Oh well, I am just lucky it is not my decision, and also not me that get the blame WHEN someone grab the wrong file at some point...
An other positive we can get from splitting the dev section, is that it would be a lot less work to keep up with the development on the device that YOU own...
Hey, a thought...
WHY on earth have the admins made new section for the hox+ device at all...
There is actually not that much more different hardware from hox to the hox+, than there is from hox+att to hox+int...
Why at all have the xda-forums split into different manufacturer sections and again devided into different handsets...
People can "just read the header", can't they now ?
At last:
IF a wrong rom was only resulting in a silly language, funny colours on the screen, or perhaps a dead radio, and it was fixed easy just by flashing the right file, then I wouldn't care at all...!!
BUT this fault CAN actually brick people's device's, and that is why we should help people as much as possible, and split the ATT/TELUS from the International section...
Happy new year...
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Another thing, I know there is a processor difference as well but why are the international/ATT HOX forums split but ours aren't?
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Seriously people, your answer is, "JUST READ!" They should be separate in order to avoid confusion from the beginning. A lot of users would avoid issues if this was the case.
pshdo said:
IF a wrong rom was only resulting in a silly language, funny colours on the screen, or perhaps a dead radio, and it was fixed easy just by flashing the right file, then I wouldn't care at all...!!
BUT this fault CAN actually brick people's device's, and that is why we should help people as much as possible, and split the ATT/TELUS from the International section...
Happy new year...
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So the warnings you can read in some of the threads against flashing wrong files, is now not to be trusted anyway you say ??
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AT&T users are concerned about the wrong thing.... Aside from cooked roms (which I have a great appreciation for) we have no developers for things like CM/AOSP/AOKP. And instead people want to complain that threads are not separated.... Look at the damn description of what you are installing and the problem is solved. if you are in "the heat of the moment" looking for something and cant be bothered to read what you are doing you should consider buying an iPhone. There is no excuse for stupidity.
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So the warnings you can read in some of the threads against flashing wrong files, is now not to be trusted anyway you say ??
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the devices are S-ON which makes a brick very unlikely
People use the word brick too often these days. A brick is when your phone is totally dead (corrupt/damaged bootloader). Not when your stuck in a bootloop. Flashing a custom rom only writes to /system/ /data/ and /cache/. So unless you do something totally retarded it's pretty much impossible to brick flashing the wrong rom.
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People use the word brick too often these days. A brick is when your phone is totally dead (corrupt/damaged bootloader). Not when your stuck in a bootloop. Flashing a custom rom only writes to /system/ /data/ and /cache/. So unless you do something totally retarded it's pretty much impossible to brick flashing the wrong rom.
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i hear that dude!
AndroHero said:
People use the word brick too often these days. A brick is when your phone is totally dead (corrupt/damaged bootloader). Not when your stuck in a bootloop. Flashing a custom rom only writes to /system/ /data/ and /cache/. So unless you do something totally retarded it's pretty much impossible to brick flashing the wrong rom.
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It's not only "pretty much", but totally imposible to brick a s-on phone with flashing a rom. We had more than a hundred of One X on IRC channel that were "bricked" and with combined effort they all ran again eventually.
That said, it is possible however to ruin it so much that it is a very hard task for "unexperienced" users to get it to life again.
That makes it even more important for "unexperienced" users to read, and read and the read again before they start flashing. That is unfortunately something that got out of fashion these days. In the days you could actually "brick" your phone ppl were much more cautious.
Dividing this forum is a thing that is discussed, but I assure you that would not keep some ppl from flashing the wrong rom. On One X some don't even realize when they are on wrong forum and complain that the rom they installed wouldn't boot. So, whatever precautions we take, they only help so far...
Flashing an ATT Rom into an International device or vice versa, will most likely not brick the device but that doesn't justify why ATT and International threads are together. I kind of agree with OP, we should better have 2 different threads as Roms, themes, mods for one device doesn't work for the other.
I am also surprised to see both devices into the same thread :silly:
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People use the word brick too often these days. A brick is when your phone is totally dead (corrupt/damaged bootloader). Not when your stuck in a bootloop. Flashing a custom rom only writes to /system/ /data/ and /cache/. So unless you do something totally retarded it's pretty much impossible to brick flashing the wrong rom.
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Dividing this forum is a thing that is discussed, but I assure you that would not keep some ppl from flashing the wrong rom. On One X some don't even realize when they are on wrong forum and complain that the rom they installed wouldn't boot. So, whatever precautions we take, they only help so far...
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So should that count for not helping people as much as possible by splitting the forum ?
Why not help as much as possible ?
Hey...
People also get hit by other cars when they don't notice a red light, but that don't stop us from having light signals in the trafic...
I know that many of you would LOVE to be the "wrong forum"-police anyway, so why fight splitting the dev forums
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So should that count for not helping people as much as possible by splitting the forum ?
Why not help as much as possible ?
Hey...
People also get hit by other cars when they don't notice a red light, but that don't stop us from having light signals in the trafic...
I know that many of you would LOVE to be the "wrong forum"-police anyway, so why fight splitting the dev forums
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Please stop beating a dead horse and instead do something to actually help out on the forums. Why would you want to divide an already small community? This is not like the original One X that had a large following immediately. They are doing a favor to AT&T users by keeping us in here because people are nice enough to port their roms.
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Flashing an ATT Rom into an International device or vice versa, will most likely not brick the device but that doesn't justify why ATT and International threads are together. I kind of agree with OP, we should better have 2 different threads as Roms, themes, mods for one device doesn't work for the other.
I am also surprised to see both devices into the same thread :silly:
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saves opening a ton of threads, if people actually read the threads.. rom's are split into correct headers... sure call us silly but people need to start learning to read
This is just my 2 cents, but not everyone knows the difference between the AT&T and International versions. Sure they have to read first and do their research, but at the same time the threads and files are freely available. They shouldn't be messing with their devices in the first place but then again the methods are just a click away.
Do we let the less-informed be "stupid" just so the community doesn't look as little/bare as it is currently? I don't know, maybe, but I have made mistakes (luckily not so severe) and a lot of people have too.
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Hi just got s2 today exchanged desire HD. Going to root on Monday but noticed there are 3 development areas for this phone how do I know which one is for my phone?
Thanks, PS while I'm here which ROM is recommended and why
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Regarding which rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612881
As for the 3 development. Check about phone under settings. Make sure you have the i9100 instead of the i9100G. If you have the i9100G, there is only 1 development section.
If you have the i9100, just check out the other 2 development sections.
Note to self, don't bother asking for help off guy above
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Note to self, don't bother asking for help off guy above
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Put it this way mate...
His answer is actually right. Your usage pattern, mine, and his are unlikely to be the same. Taste as well. Therefore best ROM discussion is a moot point.
On different sub forum, he mentioned that you should take precautions differentiating I9100 and I9100G. If you need additional explanation, please read the sticky thread in the Original Dev sub-forum stating the difference.
My last note, don't write anything when you're emotional. It will just backfire.
Note to OP - acting like a **** won't get you the help/info you're after. On the contrary, I'd be surprised if you get much help after that. Kaze asked a valid question.
The 3 development sections have nothing to do with anything re: rooting your phone (or anything else for that matter).
You need to start with something easy by the looks of things, might want to read the Stickies. No roms are recommended. Asking for rom recommendations is the height of laziness. Try a bunch of roms out until you find one you like the same as everyone else.
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they actually gave you very good advice. But here is mine, go flash something from the i9100g section and have fun
Ding ding ding ding ding ! You win Skimmy ;-)
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they actually gave you very good advice. But here is mine, go flash something from the i9100g section and have fun
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Note to self, don't bother asking for help off guy above
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Note to you, sell your S2 and get a iPhone or Nokia 3310.
When your new to a forum or should I say a part of a forum your there looking for help. I.e. the whole point of a forum.
I know that trying roms out is a personal preference but it is quite nice to have a couple of opinions to start out but hey that was clearly too hard to do.
This is meant to be a question and answers area so asking questions is what is meant to happen. What is the point in having a forum if no one is wiling to have a discussion about things.
Only seen this kind of attitude in certain places, quite sad really
Btw thanks pl4sma for a decent response
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Note to you, sell your S2 and get a iPhone or Nokia 3310.
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aww did I upset you? Pity
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kevinm2k said:
When your new to a forum or should I say a part of a forum your there looking for help. I.e. the whole point of a forum.
I know that trying roms out is a personal preference but it is quite nice to have a couple of opinions to start out but hey that was clearly too hard to do.
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Yes but you miss the point. This question has already been asked a million times over, no need for another topic, go read the ones already created. This is specifically why mods have created sticky topic telling you not to ask this question and why the user who you *****ed about gave you the link.
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This is meant to be a question and answers area so asking questions is what is meant to happen.
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Yes but doesn't mean you can ask same old questions without searching first.
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What is the point in having a forum if no one is wiling to have a discussion about things.
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Plenty of discussions going on.
well put it this way I just read the thread pl4sma told me to read and I'm still not really much clearer why there are 2 sub forums in development area, and by the looks of it I'm not the only one confused so that is a valid question.
The second part I was simply asking for opinions rather than flashing consistently to find what I want. I find as you use the phone you realise which bits are best and change ROM based on that, when you initially start using you don't really know which one to try so it is nice to get opinions and maybe base your first try on what others think.
You have to remember that everyone starts out new and its over time you work things out. Doesn't mean people should be flamed instantly. Search doesn't always give desired results.
Plus if people don't want to answer things over and over then surely they can simply choose not to respond
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well put it this way I just read the thread pl4sma told me to read and I'm still not really much clearer why there are 2 sub forums in development area, and by the looks of it I'm not the only one confused so that is a valid question.
One is original development the other uses bits and pieces from other devs to build the roms . How to tell as usual its in the stickies .
The second part I was simply asking for opinions rather than flashing consistently to find what I want. I find as you use the phone you realise which bits are best and change ROM based on that, when you initially start using you don't really know which one to try so it is nice to get opinions and maybe base your first try on what others think.
The what is best rom is banned due to the thousands of exact same posts and the fact that users and their needs are different .
The what is the simplest rom for me to start learning how to flash SGS2 is an acceptable type of question .
You have to remember that everyone starts out new and its over time you work things out. Doesn't mean people should be flamed instantly. Search doesn't always give desired results.
No but you normal read the rules followed by the stickies faqs and guides first .
Plus it was you that started the bad behaviour with your reply to the first valid answer you received .
Plus if people don't want to answer things over and over then surely they can simply choose not to respond
Its the ones who refuse to read and ask the same stuff over and over that dont really belong as they just take .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
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Thanks for another decent reply, I understand the differences now and is really all that was needed. As you can see from the original question the ROM part was at the end but having a start point would have been nice.
problem I had with first reply is they probably took more time to find the link they did then it would of taken to answer the question.
This discussion would have ended there and then, but instead giving such an unhelpful response caused all of this.
Lessons to be learned by all I think.
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No, lessons to be learned by one person. And they clearly haven't been.
I'd hate to be you on here if you run into problems and genuinely need help at some stage in the near future.
Your not me, and you clearly haven't read the rules of this forum that state the behaviour you should uphold. you're input here is not required and isn't useful therefore don't post.
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kevinm2k said:
Your not me, and you clearly haven't read the rules of this forum that state the behaviour you should uphold. you're input here is not required and isn't useful therefore don't post.
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Dude, you are clearly the one who hasn't read the rules here or watched the XDA video...
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aww did I upset you? Pity
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Original dev and android dev is for the i9100
than there is i9100G section for the s2's bastard child
post your model here
I'd pretty much forgotten about this peanut. Funny as hell. How some people can survive with such little grey matter is beyond me.
Getting a stock Amaze today.
Background: I've rooted, S-off'd, and ROM'd *other* HTC phones before and used ARHD on the Sensation.
I'm looking for root, stability, and good battery life. I don't care much about minor performance tweaks.
Is hasoon2000's all in one tool the best way to root today?
Are any of the rom's a big improvement over stock with no serious side effects?
I know there are FAQs and Wiki's, but I've also been around XDA long enough to ask before diving in to a new phone before I use possibly outdated guides.
Thanks in advance.
You've been around long enough... then I'm sure u can read the dev threads and judge for yourself. Recommendations are for the indecisive
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I swear, if people spent half the time answering questions as they did explaining why they're not answering questions they don't even know the answer to on XDA...
Anyhow, the all-in-one tool seems to have done the trick (perm root/recovery).
I'll report back when I try a ROM.
sisquoc15 said:
I swear, if people spent half the time answering questions as they did explaining why they're not answering questions they don't even know the answer to on XDA...
Anyhow, the all-in-one tool seems to have done the trick (perm root/recovery).
I'll report back when I try a ROM.
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This is xda-developers not xda-helpers, I'd be a little nicer than that if I were you and he has a point, there's loads of threads around here, doesn't hurt to read and do your own research, no two people like the same thing because they should, we all have our own preferences.
sisquoc15 said:
I swear, if people spent half the time answering questions as they did explaining why they're not answering questions they don't even know the answer to on XDA...
Anyhow, the all-in-one tool seems to have done the trick (perm root/recovery).
I'll report back when I try a ROM.
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Stop being lazy and whining. Try the couple/few (not like there's a ton) that are out there and make up your own mind.
Asking whig Rom is better is insulting to devs that may not get mentioned. Read OPs and threads and see if Any known issues are there.
But u have been around a while... I'm sure u know that
Edit.. looks like u run arhd on your sensation... That MAY be a good start don't u think?
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You guys know that it is a running joke everywhere else on the internet how unhelpful people on these forums can be.
This is a Q&A forum. I ask a Q, you might give an A. Here's how to figure it if you should respond:
If know the answer to the question and you have the time/patience to give a helpful answer, go for it. If no, move along.
Instead you've wasted everyone's time and clouded the thread by arguing about the value of the question. At 88 views, at least some people are interested in an answer.
I'm sure you know a lot about this phone and have helped many people, but I don't care if you invented sliced bread if you don't know the answer to my question or have the time to answer it.
If you need help interacting with other people in a forum when you do know the answer to the question, I've provided the template below. You might "sticky" it.
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Hello,
Welcome to our forum. The [wiki/guide] (insert link, maybe if you're feeling super helpful, certainly not required) [is/is not] up to date and is a good resource for [rooting/recovery setup/etc]. I have tried [x,y,z] roms and I find [x] is best for battery life, but [important feature] is not working for [me/other people].
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Again, if you don't know this information or don't have the time/patience to give a helpful answer, you needn't respond.
Your time and efforts are valuable. Don't waste them.
Only if u would put the effort into reading and experimenting as you did your short essay above, this thread wouldn't be needed.
Good luck on your quest
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sisquoc15 said:
You guys know that it is a running joke everywhere else on the internet how unhelpful people on these forums can be.
This is a Q&A forum. I ask a Q, you might give an A. Here's how to figure it if you should respond:
If know the answer to the question and you have the time/patience to give a helpful answer, go for it. If no, move along.
Instead you've wasted everyone's time and clouded the thread by arguing about the value of the question. At 88 views, at least some people are interested in an answer.
I'm sure you know a lot about this phone and have helped many people, but I don't care if you invented sliced bread if you don't know the answer to my question or have the time to answer it.
If you need help interacting with other people in a forum when you do know the answer to the question, I've provided the template below. You might "sticky" it.
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Hello,
Welcome to our forum. The [wiki/guide] (insert link, maybe if you're feeling super helpful, certainly not required) [is/is not] up to date and is a good resource for [rooting/recovery setup/etc]. I have tried [x,y,z] roms and I find [x] is best for battery life, but [important feature] is not working for [me/other people].
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Again, if you don't know this information or don't have the time/patience to give a helpful answer, you needn't respond.
Your time and efforts are valuable. Don't waste them.
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Very well said.
Get used to it because this is how the Amaze forum is....no matter what, you'll get bashed lol
Edit: I recommend you sell your Amaze and get something with more support/development and a better community.
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Truth is the question was not needed
If you want stock look for stock roms
If you want aosp then look for aosp roms
If your looking for pr0n you are in the wrong site, you want xxxda.....
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lonz358 said:
Get used to it because this is how the Amaze forum is....no matter what, you'll get bashed lol
Edit: I recommend you sell your Amaze and get something with more support/development and a better community.
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So you're saying that all the people we helped, all the work we do and all the praise saying this is the nicest community many have ever been apart of in the introduction thread was a lie? Your laziness and lack of understanding is not our fault, we help as much as we can, but some things are truly pushing it. This place is for development, not a play ground for those unwilling to even help themselves.
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So you're saying that all the people we helped, all the work we do and all the praise saying this is the nicest community many have ever been apart of in the introduction thread was a lie? Your laziness and lack of understanding is not our fault, we help as much as we can, but some things are truly pushing it. This place is for development, not a play ground for those unwilling to even help themselves.
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This is Q&A, he asked what Rom would you RECOMMEND...this is Q&A rite? If your not gonna answer his simple question than keep it moving...y try to make him look bad?
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lonz358 said:
This is Q&A, he asked what Rom would you RECOMMEND...this is Q&A rite? If your not gonna answer his simple question than keep it moving...y try to make him look bad?
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There's loads of threads of roms with hundreds, possible thousands of post on user input about how the roms run, advantages and disadvantages, no two users would like the same rom, I preferred stock lightly modified by me while gg like quick Droid and Ziggy liked speed rom, do you think I can recommend a rom to them or its a better idea for them to try them out for themselves? I'd recommend stock but he obviously doesn't like stock or he wouldn't be looking for a custom rom, then what? I tell him speed rom is nice because someone said so but I have no clue myself? Like really, grow up, this is no place for childish questions and responses, there was no need for things to get all hostile here, your best option would be to try thing's on your own, if you can't make your own decisions from your own personal liking and experience, then you sir will settle for second best because of your attitude towards it
For the record, what others think about the support on this site, really doesn't matter, this place is for development, not support. We offer help when we can because as a human trait, people do stupid things or just can't keep their cool long enough to sort out an issue. Therefore count it a privilege many take the time out of their day and work to write the multiple guides here and the devs for releasing their work.
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lonz358 said:
.y try to make him look bad?
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Didn't have to try...
On another note... Asking which Rom is better is a flame war waiting to happen and is offensive to the devs whose roms aren't mentioned. And since user experience and needs vary, you will never get a helpful answer. Mix that with all the fanboys in the amaze forum and u get a mess.. how do I know? Cuz there is already multiple threads asking which Rom is better than which.. I READ.
The correct answer is to quit being lazy, read, and try for yourself. Stop getting so butt hurt. I'm not talking about ur mother, just your internet bestie
Get over it.
Why is this thread still even going?
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Here's something XDA is not about...It's not about this ridiculousness. I say this over and over again...we all are here because we share a common interest. What is there to argue, debate, flame, insult, [ad nauseum] about?
Thread closed until I hear from OP.
The rest of you know better.
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I can't install it on my W8 laptop. Anyone know how to fix? I'm trying to Convert to N4
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PhonePhan said:
I can't install it on my W8 laptop. Anyone know how to fix? I'm trying to Convert to N4
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Follow the instructions there. Be sure to run the .bat file as administrator, else it will install but not run correctly.
Would you please search before creating a new thread for every question that pops into your head?
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http://pastebin.com/g8hXBaaA
Follow the instructions there. Be sure to run the .bat file as administrator, else it will install but not run correctly.
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Nastybutler said:
Would you please search before creating a new thread for every question that pops into your head?
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Didn't see clear instructions on the N4 threads. You can always NOT read my post? Or continue to piss yourself off? Becuase my post have nothing to do with you or your life. Like at all. Take the chip of your shoulder and stop being a negtive force in all my post. Good Day Sir
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Didn't see clear instructions on the N4 threads. You can always NOT read my post? Or continue to piss yourself off? Becuase my post have nothing to do with you or your life. Like at all. Take the chip of your shoulder and stop being a negtive force in all my post. Good Day Sir
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So the thread titled: "How to use LGNPST on Windows 8" was no help at all? It didn't even require that you use the search feature.
Also, please post questions in Q and A.
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Probably the most drama i've ever been trough over a phone. Guess people take this too seriously. A new phone comes out every 5-6 months i doubt half of you will even have this phone for more than a year, and to be responding the way you are is just WOW. All this for a phone you wont remember in 2 years. Again you're free not to read my post. Clearly im new to this "XDA" thing and know the bare minimum (root, cwm, cm10), hence the questions. Roms and roots were easy for my SGH Skyrocket, but is wayy more difficult for the LGOG for a newbie. Im learning though. Thanks to all of the chill people who helped in an appropriate manner. To all those who made having this phone living hell thank you too for making it clear that some people need a hug. Everyday. All day.
-Again thanks for all the helpful insights. I couldn't thank you enough
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Probably the most drama i've ever been trough over a phone. Guess people take this too seriously. A new phone comes out every 5-6 months i doubt half of you will even have this phone for more than a year, and to be responding the way you are is just WOW. All this for a phone you wont remember in 2 years. Again you're free not to read my post. Clearly im new to this "XDA" thing and know the bare minimum (root, cwm, cm10), hence the questions. Roms and roots were easy for my SGH Skyrocket, but is wayy more difficult for the LGOG for a newbie. Im learning though. Thanks to all of the chill people who helped in an appropriate manner. To all those who made having this phone living hell thank you too for making it clear that some people need a hug. Everyday. All day.
-Again thanks for all the helpful insights. I couldn't thank you enough
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What you don't seem to understand is that no one minds questions, but asking a question, when there's a whole thread dedicated to the question (a thread that shows up 2-3 items down the forum thread list, from your) is absurd and does nothing but clutter these pages. Doing so makes people think that you are either too lazy to search for an answer or believe that your time is more important than ours, so we're supposed to provide the link for you or write the answer again. Why would you expect people to do either of those things?
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Probably the most drama i've ever been trough over a phone. Guess people take this too seriously. A new phone comes out every 5-6 months i doubt half of you will even have this phone for more than a year, and to be responding the way you are is just WOW. All this for a phone you wont remember in 2 years. Again you're free not to read my post. Clearly im new to this "XDA" thing and know the bare minimum (root, cwm, cm10), hence the questions. Roms and roots were easy for my SGH Skyrocket, but is wayy more difficult for the LGOG for a newbie. Im learning though. Thanks to all of the chill people who helped in an appropriate manner. To all those who made having this phone living hell thank you too for making it clear that some people need a hug. Everyday. All day.
-Again thanks for all the helpful insights. I couldn't thank you enough
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We get that you're new to XDA. But given your age and generation, you should at least be somewhat familiar with technology (the fact that you are flashing ROMs and even on this website in the first place is proof of that) so we expect you to have a minimal understanding of forum etiquette. Like the guy above me said, the link to "How to use LGNPST on Windows 8" was just 2 threads away from the top when I posted the link to it in my reply.
Put yourself in our position. If EVERYONE decided to make a new thread every time they had a question that was answered 100s of times already instead of using the search feature or checking the stickies, just imagine how cluttered and unreadable this forum would be. We would be spending more time sifting through threads to find somewhat relevant ones. So basically you can see why we get a little uppity for threads like this.
Anyway, best of luck to you. Good job getting this phone. You're gonna love it! :good:
Since you're new you should have read the forum rules and watched the nice video XDA created that covers the basic forum etiquette like searching and not creating threads covering topics that have already been covered.
I think you need to go watch that video again, and stop breaking the rules. You're not making much of an impression with the members here so far, from what I can tell. To me you're coming across as both an asshat and not terribly bright. What you do from here on out is up to you, but I'd suggest a change in attitude would be a good start. Getting defensive and butthurt doesn't help your cause.
Start taking what we're saying as constructive criticism intended to help you conform to how things work here (even if it is delivered harshly). You'll find a lot of your questions have already been answered, and if not, people are willing to help if you ask the right questions the right way.
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Nastybutler said:
Since you're new you should have read the forum rules and watched the nice video XDA created that covers the basic forum etiquette like searching and not creating threads covering topics that have already been covered.
I think you need to go watch that video again, and stop breaking the rules. You're not making much of an impression with the members here so far, from what I can tell. To me you're coming across as both an asshat and not terribly bright. What you do from here on out is up to you, but I'd suggest a change in attitude would be a good start. Getting defensive and butthurt doesn't help your cause.
Start taking what we're saying as constructive criticism intended to help you conform to how things work here (even if it is delivered harshly). You'll find a lot of your questions have already been answered, and if not, people are willing to help if you ask the right questions the right way.
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"Hello, Noob!"
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Hey guys, I have had my VZW Note II for a few months now, and I tried to root/unlock it a few weeks back but ran into multiple issues that prevented me from completing the process (specifically the unlocking posed problems, no doubt because of my own mistakes).
My question is, what is the state of G Note II modding right now? I came from the GNex (rooted) and it had a very robust community, but it seems like the difficulty with unlocking this phone might lead to a less vibrant set of options for flashing. Is this phone getting a lot of dev attention or is it not worth the trouble to crack?
This is subjective, I know, but give me your opinions if you dont mind! Thanks in advance!
This isn't really a subjective question. There are two forums that could answer your question. Development and original development. Take a look and see what you think.
I will say if you compare anything to the options on a nexus device you'll be disappointed.
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This isn't really a subjective question. There are two forums that could answer your question. Development and original development. Take a look and see what you think.
I will say if you compare anything to the options on a nexus device you'll be disappointed.
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I have been shot down when I post questions in the dev threads, but do you think this is an acceptable post for them? I have no doubt that it will be less robust than Gnex, but I figured it might still be worth doing for cyan or AOKP or whatever. Anyways, thanks for the tip!
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I have been shot down when I post questions in the dev threads, but do you think this is an acceptable post for them? I have no doubt that it will be less robust than Gnex, but I figured it might still be worth doing for cyan or AOKP or whatever. Anyways, thanks for the tip!
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DO NOT POST YOUR QUESTION THERE! This is in the right place my point was go to them and look at the different ROMs. If it is good enough for you or the is a ROM you want to try then you answered your own question
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There is no good answer to this. What is mainstream for one person is early-adopter for another. The right answer is to do some reading in the ROM/kernel threads and decide your own comfort level. That you asked this question makes me think you should wait. I would say that dev for this device is still gaining traction. It's only been out a couple of months.
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There are half a dozen or so Touchwiz based ROMs and at least that many AOSP ROMs. Add in 4 or 5 kernels and considering the we only got the bootloader unlock about two months ago, I think development has been great. In all honestly, I am not sure how many more ways ROMs can be tweaked...there might be some diminishing utility after 10+ ROMs.
I got my phone about 10 days ago, and had it rooted/unlocked within a few hours. I didnt have any issues at all getting it there. I made sure not to accept the VZW OTA update, and when I saw it was going to force me to update within 5 days, that forced my hand to go ahead and root it.
I just used the following guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024207 to root it, and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043636 to unlock it.
If you have accepted the OTA update, your steps change, and you'll use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2118348 to unlock it instead.
I personally havent messed with AOSP roms. Coming from GNex that was all I ran, and I'm enjoying a slick TouchWiz setup right now. I remember on my Droid Charge, having NO desire to keep TW, but it's a lot better on this phone.
I am a Charge refugee as well...what a difference the Note 2 is. I've run CleanRom and three builds of Beans. Don't think I want to give up some the the Touchwiz features for AOSP...at least until key lime pie comes out.
Ugh I hate these threads.
If you want it to be different stop being a little girl about it and go develop yourself. Nothing is stopping you but yourself.
If you want something that doesn't exist, make it exist or get an insane amount of money and back people to make it exist.
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Ugh I hate these threads.
If you want it to be different stop being a little girl about it and go develop yourself. Nothing is stopping you but yourself.
If you want something that doesn't exist, make it exist or get an insane amount of money and back people to make it exist.
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Do you feel better after that childish tantrum of a response? You hate these questions, yet you didn't actually respond to what I asked.
I am not a dev, nor do I want to be. I asked not as someone looking for features that don't exist, but as a user who wants to know how the note II compares to the gnex in terms of xda support.
Either answer the question I asked, or keep your whining to yourself.
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Do you feel better after that childish tantrum of a response? You hate these questions, yet you didn't actually respond to what I asked.
I am not a dev, nor do I want to be. I asked not as someone looking for features that don't exist, but as a user who wants to know how the note II compares to the gnex in terms of xda support.
Either answer the question I asked, or keep your whining to yourself.
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I did answer your question. If you want more support for this device develop yourself for it. That is all there is too it. If everyone had your attitude we wouldnt have any one developing for this phone.
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I did answer your question. If you want more support for this device develop yourself for it. That is all there is too it. If everyone had your attitude we wouldnt have any one developing for this phone.
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My attitude? You began your response by saying that you hate questions like mine, which is not the most civil of ways to speak to a stranger.
More importantly, you still missed my question. I asked if it was worth my time to unlock it, I did not complain about a lack of dev support. It was an honest question which you ignored and instead responded in a rude manner. Thanks for nothing, a second time.
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I did answer your question. If you want more support for this device develop yourself for it. That is all there is too it. If everyone had your attitude we wouldnt have any one developing for this phone.
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I'm not sure what this guy did to launch you into that insanely now cliche rant. This is Q&A not a dev thread. The OP did not ask for an ETA or request a feature or compare one ROM to another, or ask a question that could have been answered with a search.
Many people admonished the OP, including me, but you are the only who felt the need to rip him a new one. You could have just linked him to the XDA rules instead of going off like you did If the OP needed a refresher.
Maybe Q&A is not the best sub-forum for you if you can't assume good intentions. You have your own threads that you can patrol for slights real and imagined.
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My attitude? You began your response by saying that you hate questions like mine, which is not the most civil of ways to speak to a stranger.
More importantly, you still missed my question. I asked if it was worth my time to unlock it, I did not complain about a lack of dev support. It was an honest question which you ignored and instead responded in a rude manner. Thanks for nothing, a second time.
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Your question was not worded very well to say that since you wanted to compaire it to the gnex. A quick look in the development sections shows what is available. My previous points still stand. Always see these threads at least 2-3 times in the 6 months i own a phone that isnt a nexus.
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I'm not sure what this guy did to launch you into that insanely now cliche rant. This is Q&A not a dev thread. The OP did not ask for an ETA or request a feature or compare one ROM to another, or ask a question that could have been answered with a search.
Many people admonished the OP, including me, but you are the only who felt the need to rip him a new one. You could have just linked him to the XDA rules instead of going off like you did If the OP needed a refresher.
Maybe Q&A is not the best sub-forum for you if you can't assume good intentions. You have your own threads that you can patrol for slights real and imagined.
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Sorry I've been around long enough yo get frustrated by people on this site. I've also been saying the same things for months and linking to the XDA rules doesn't make people care, giving them harsh statements do.
If OP wanted his question answered he could have searched. Plenty of info is available.
My views have become, if you haven't searched and then are asking why or if you should do something, you shouldn't do it at all and shouldn't ask if you should.
Search first then ask questions.
If you want to compare the Gnex to the Note2 development, all you have to do is look in both forums and see how many ROM/athreads are in the dev sections. Weather you unlock or not has nothing to do with it. Do it or don't.
In answer to the original poster, yes it is worth unlocking.
The beans and cleanrom roms alone add enough polish to warrant it.
The ability to take a nandroid is worth it. Everyone backs up their computer..... so why not a tablet
There is a kernel or two? That work with stweaks for cpu/gpu power control. A forum member also put together some nice flash able profiles for it even. If you want to increase battery or performance it's possible.
Depending on where you are at, one of the two available basebands may work better for you. That can't be flashed without a recovery....
Because it came with a locked bootloader of the start, there seemed to be a delay with devs because they first had to figure out how to unlock it to begin development. Now that is unlocked the wheels seem to be moving pretty good.
On a side note, if I recall correctly there may be a way to run international roms on it. You would want to research, I haven't really looked into it. Could be wrong.
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Depending on where you are at, one of the two available basebands may work better for you.
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The original modem has faster 3g for me, but the new one has better connectivity and speed on 4g. I wish we had combined modems with ie. 3g from one modem and 4g from the other.
I just rooted and installed cwm using Odin, the noob proof way. But I keep going to reboot into cwm and I'm only getting the factory recovery, what gives?
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Resolved. Updated to 6.X
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Wrong Forum ?????
S3 trouble shooting? Nope, it's regarding an s3.
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S3 trouble shooting? Nope, it's regarding an s3.
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This is not S3 troubleshooting. This is International GT-i9300 S3 (Specifically) Troubleshooting...
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You don't have one of these phones.
Ok well my xda app just says sIII q&a and troubleshooting.. its mistake. Plus I could have an internship s3 also, either way cwm works the same across the two. For the sake of people jumping down my throat. Regardless it's resolved so this can be locked anyways.
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Ok well my xda app just says sIII q&a and troubleshooting.. its mistake.
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Might need the forum selection subscriptions updating on your app .
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For the sake of people jumping down my throat.
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It would be a mistake to make an assumption that everything works the same on both devices. If I gave you an i9300 CWM recovery, you could brick your device.
I'm sorry you feel like people are jumping down your throat but they are not. It is for YOUR OWN PROTECTION. Be savvy and post in the right forums. We cannot guess if you have the wrong device and we can give you advice that can lead to your device being bricked forever. You would not be happy.
I would rather be told I am in the wrong forum than people not mention it in case they offend my delicate nature - then allow me to brick my device. You should be grateful we pointed it out to you.
Also, we are pointing it out for people here. FOR THEIR PROTECTION. What if someone came here and asked you for a link to the recovery you used? You post it still not knowing you're in the wrong forum. You could be partly responsible for how many bricks????
Now everyone knows and no one has a bricked phone. Knowledge prevails.
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It would be a mistake to make an assumption that everything works the same on both devices. If I gave you an i9300 CWM recovery, you could brick your device.
I'm sorry you feel like people are jumping down your throat but they are not. It is for YOUR OWN PROTECTION. Be savvy and post in the right forums. We cannot guess if you have the wrong device and we can give you advice that can lead to your device being bricked forever. You would not be happy.
I would rather be told I am in the wrong forum than people not mention it in case they offend my delicate nature - then allow me to brick my device. You should be grateful we pointed it out to you.
Also, we are pointing it out for people here. FOR THEIR PROTECTION. What if someone came here and asked you for a link to the recovery you used? You post it still not knowing you're in the wrong forum. You could be partly responsible for how many bricks????
Now everyone knows and no one has a bricked phone. Knowledge prevails.
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Very well said good sir...
IF I HELPED YOU DONT FORGET TO SAY THANKS! I WOULD FOR YOU...
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rootSU said:
It would be a mistake to make an assumption that everything works the same on both devices. If I gave you an i9300 CWM recovery, you could brick your device.
I'm sorry you feel like people are jumping down your throat but they are not. It is for YOUR OWN PROTECTION. Be savvy and post in the right forums. We cannot guess if you have the wrong device and we can give you advice that can lead to your device being bricked forever. You would not be happy.
I would rather be told I am in the wrong forum than people not mention it in case they offend my delicate nature - then allow me to brick my device. You should be grateful we pointed it out to you.
Also, we are pointing it out for people here. FOR THEIR PROTECTION. What if someone came here and asked you for a link to the recovery you used? You post it still not knowing you're in the wrong forum. You could be partly responsible for how many bricks????
Now everyone knows and no one has a bricked phone. Knowledge prevails.
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I'm not reading all that because I'm busy, but apparently you are here more for argument, rather the helping side of things. The thread is over, and it would be a mistake to make assumptions, because that in itself was an assumption, the recovery I used said specifically it would work with either model. But thanks for your help I guess.
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I'm not reaching all that because I'm busy, but apparently you are here more for argument, rather the helping side of things. The thread is over, and it would be a mistake to make assumptions, because that in itself was an assumption, the recovery I used said specifically it would work with either model. But thanks for your help I guess.
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I'm not here for an argument. I'm here to stop people breaking their devices. Something that seems lost on you. It's a shame you're "too busy" to read the important information I just posted and too ignorant to realise that you're lucky nothing worse happened to your device.
For anyone who does actually care, since the t999 T-mobile USA device that the OP has, has completely different hardware, the kernels are NOT interchangeable, so no recovery is interchangeable either.
This thread needs to be locked and lost in the ether.
Actually, incorrect, I'm not ignorant at all, the only mistake I made was clicking on the "wrong forum" when it said "s3 q&a" because they failed to mention it was the international model, in my app. I never had any intentions on posting a link to the cwm file I used. Really guy, get over yourself. You made your awesome point now move on.
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