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I live in the uk and am eagerly anticipating the release of the motorola Atrix. However, I don't really want to wait ages for an orange release and would prefer an unlocked phone anyway (no contracts and the like). What should I do? I know there's expansys etc. but I am concerned about a warranty. Should I be? I am really just looking for some helpful advice.
i heard you can send it to any motorola services centre for the warranty no?
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I live in the uk and am eagerly anticipating the release of the motorola Atrix. However, I don't really want to wait ages for an orange release and would prefer an unlocked phone anyway (no contracts and the like). What should I do? I know there's expansys etc. but I am concerned about a warranty. Should I be? I am really just looking for some helpful advice.
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Doesn't mater where you buy it from, you will have a warranty with the manufacturer. I have had to send stuff back to Expansys before and had no problems
Thanks! i was just a bit worried i would lose out on something. now all i have to do is wait for an unlocked version to be released, or even announced :/
Any news on UK release dates yet?
It's slated for a Q2 release in the UK (Most likely to be around mid May), I'll try find the source I got it from.
This is unconfirmed though.
Any ideas on what the price might be for it? BTW this is for the regular Atrix and not the 4G
I'm from Israel and we use 3G bands similar to Europe, the Artix 4G supports HSDPA at the 2100 MHZ band and so do some European carriers (including mine). Does that mean I can just order the U.S version and it will work ok? if so, no need to wait for UK dates or any other European release
CajunChicken said:
I live in the uk and am eagerly anticipating the release of the motorola Atrix. However, I don't really want to wait ages for an orange release and would prefer an unlocked phone anyway (no contracts and the like). What should I do? I know there's expansys etc. but I am concerned about a warranty. Should I be? I am really just looking for some helpful advice.
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It seems you'd better ask a friend of yours in US to bring it over. That's what I'm going to do. USD399 is way better than GBP399 (surely it's going to be more than that).
Atrix 4g and atrix is the same phone. In america they have verizon lte 4g so t-mobile and att started calling their hsdpa+ 4g which is nonsense. You'd need to check the bands to ensure it works. Should be ok as im sure moto support most. You'll need to wait for an unlock in anycase as only on at&t i think if coming from america. I would buy from expansys although they can be expensive. If you import you need to add the vat which you'll get billed for 2 weeks after purchase by the courier.
I can't wait to get mine!
Btw. I bought a droid pro from usa and it worked fine.
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According to this it will be released in May 2011 in the UK, and exclusive to Orange.
The difference between atrix 4g and atrix for europe could be regarding frequencies: 4g shold be 3g on frequencies 850/1900/2100 while european version 850/900/1900/2100. This should be not a problem because almost in all europe 3g works on 2100 Mhz frequency. What do you think about it?
I'm a UK user too.
I'm torn between this and the Samsung Galaxy S II.
I hear the Atrix is gonna be Orange exclusive which is crappy.
No news on the sammy yet though... :S
Mid July according Expansys
BUt Expansys have changed there site to show a price of £474.99 SIM free, which seems very reasonable, really. But no release date, now
I'm sure my old Touch Pro 2 was around the £600 mark when it first came out
Another pending UK user here too..
Lurking here in the meantime.
I've seen July mentioned by Expansys. Have also signed up for notifications from Play.com on their product placeholder page.
Galaxy S II looks like an early March release according to various gadget sites.
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Monkey see, monkey do.
stunno said:
BUt Expansys have changed there site to show a price of £474.99 SIM free, which seems very reasonable, really. But no release date, now
I'm sure my old Touch Pro 2 was around the £600 mark when it first came out
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I quote you, it's a good price 475£ seeing that expansys usually is very expensive, and 475£ become for me using my valid italian vat number 395£ (460 euros about) which is a great price. I don't think release date to uk is july, july would be too late. At this point I will buy it from USA the same day it will be available sim free ( I think mid or late march).
Hi all, is it possible to flash a branded Nokia Lumia 800 with generic unbranded firmware? if so how would i go about doing so, thanks for any help.
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biggzy said:
Hi all, is it possible to flash a branded Nokia Lumia 800 with generic unbranded firmware? if so how would i go about doing so, thanks for any help.
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wow biggzy lol long time buddy prodigits s60 eh lol how are ya buddy davec26 here now 35 ok well Nokia lumia is now a 2 bit encription it was 4 but now 2 so will be a long way off for unlock as for generic im wondering if phoneix will do it ??? Have U traced the generic files ? If not I can post generic firmware here but what to use to flash it I have no idea yet lol ufs maybe
Hi davec26, im great thanks, yourself? It has been a while lol, iv been an iPhone user for the past half a year, before that I had my last s60 device, the N8, no more s60 for me, so was waiting for nokias WP7 device, and now I love it, great device.
Not sure what will flash this, but im sure phoenix won't do it, its not like s60, im sure the WP7 gurus will find a way.
Adam.
What network are you on? Just wondering the level of branding on yours, on Three all there is is a 3 logo on boot.
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What network are you on? Just wondering the level of branding on yours, on Three all there is is a 3 logo on boot.
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Im on T-mobile, theres no boot logo but there is a tile color they have put on called t-magenta and a t-mobile bookmark, thats all i think.
Adam.
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Im on T-mobile, theres no boot logo but there is a tile color they have put on called t-magenta and a t-mobile bookmark, thats all i think.
Adam.
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Fortunately Three didn't do anyof that, nokia blue is still present.
Another route instead of flashing is to be a developer. This is how I got rid of T-Mobile Branding on my Omnia 7 by flashing the Mango Beta. I assume they will release a Tango Beta in the same way to developers and you'll be able to flash that to your phone and have a generic rom.
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Fortunately Three didn't do anyof that, nokia blue is still present.
Another route instead of flashing is to be a developer. This is how I got rid of T-Mobile Branding on my Omnia 7 by flashing the Mango Beta. I assume they will release a Tango Beta in the same way to developers and you'll be able to flash that to your phone and have a generic rom.
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Thanks for the info, I still have the "Blue" theme unless there's 2 blue colors on the generic Lumis 800 ROM?
Adam.
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Fortunately Three didn't do anyof that, nokia blue is still present.
Another route instead of flashing is to be a developer. This is how I got rid of T-Mobile Branding on my Omnia 7 by flashing the Mango Beta. I assume they will release a Tango Beta in the same way to developers and you'll be able to flash that to your phone and have a generic rom.
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Yes I hope that to!!
I'm dev_unlock on my Lumia, but I still have this ****ing operator branding and I do not have received 7740 update yet!!
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Thanks for the info, I still have the "Blue" theme unless there's 2 blue colors on the generic Lumis 800 ROM?
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Yeah there's blue and Nokia Blue.
AFAIK there's room for 1 custom colour. Nokia have used that space for Nokia Blue but if networks want their colour on the phone the only option they have is to replace Nokia Blue, default colours can't be replaced and they can't add another one.
I suspect that Phoenix will do. At the moment there is no cracked Phoenix, which supports the RM-801, RM-803, RM-809, RM-819. You have to wait and see.
There's a Debranding app I think if you're chevron unlocked. Take a look at that.
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There is a discussion in the Lumia Development section about Debranding. There is a version 5 of Nokia Care Suite which is supposed to allow flashing of Lumia but for some reason the software isn't allowing us to...
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Nokia Care Suite is a poorer version of the Phoenix. I always used to use Phoenix to such things. It seems to me that the Nokia Care Suite, you can only upload the firmware for the phone Product Code. Otherwise, the program doesn't see the firmware.
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Nokia Care Suite is a poorer version of the Phoenix. I always used to use Phoenix to such things. It seems to me that the Nokia Care Suite, you can only upload the firmware for the phone Product Code. Otherwise, the program doesn't see the firmware.
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Okay fair enough.
Is this version working? (Phoenix Service Software 2011.46.002.47246 Cracked & Original)
No. This version of the Phoenix still doesn't support Nokia Lumia 710/800. We have to wait until January or February and then to be Phoenix, which supports Lumia
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So I have the UK version which is the 801, it clearly states 900/1900/2100 UMTS bands. Just wondering if I can get a known firmware version with 850 band support and flash it on the UK version i have. could it possible allow the 850 band to work? Seeing how I dont think nokia would opt to manufacture two different hardware version of the Lumia 800
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So I have the UK version which is the 801, it clearly states 900/1900/2100 UMTS bands. Just wondering if I can get a known firmware version with 850 band support and flash it on the UK version i have. could it possible allow the 850 band to work? Seeing how I dont think nokia would opt to manufacture two different hardware version of the Lumia 800
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I'm pretty sure they are literally different hardware models so no I don't think you could flash another type of firmware.
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I'm pretty sure they are literally different hardware models so no I don't think you could flash another type of firmware.
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Just curious what is your reasoning for why you believe it's different hardware?
Hi,
I decided to move from Android (Nexus S) to Nokia with WP
Here, in Bulgaria, we have sim unlocked Lumia 800 for the price of 380 Euro.
But there is just black one.
So, my question is: are there any software or hardware differences between balck and cyan Lumia?
Apparently some people with cyan ones haven't received the 15000 firmware yet.
Apparently some people with cyan ones haven't received the 15000 firmware yet. ... how can the case colour affect FW distribution? There must be some other difference (other than colour) if there is a link between certain handsets & FW revision...???
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Apparently some people with cyan ones haven't received the 15000 firmware yet.
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I don't think that's dependent on colour. It's to do with your country/carrier.
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Apparently some people with cyan ones haven't received the 15000 firmware yet.
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Apparently some people with cyan ones haven't received the 15000 firmware yet. ... how can the case colour affect FW distribution? There must be some other difference (other than colour) if there is a link between certain handsets & FW revision...???
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I don't think that's dependent on colour. It's to do with your country/carrier.
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Did he just say that? Haha! No difference whatsoever, it's just appearance difference really. Note that if you're going to go for the Cyan version, it does not have a Cyan theme colour (UI accents) that's why I chose black, if you want the other colours, just buy an official rubber case, that pretty much changes your whole phones colour.
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I don't think that's dependent on colour. It's to do with your country/carrier.
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This is not a true statement. The Cyan specifically has been behind on getting the update. Some users just started getting it last week. It has nothing to do with country carrier when it comes to unlocked/unbranded devices. Otherwise, importers like me would never get an update from AT&T who doesn't support the phone.
Have the cyan model bought in Sweden about 3-4 weeks ago and it had 11501 already installed.
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I've had 3 Cyan 800. I've experienced the Cyan to be last in line for updates. The black in same CV had it long before.
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This is not a true statement. The Cyan specifically has been behind on getting the update. Some users just started getting it last week. It has nothing to do with country carrier when it comes to unlocked/unbranded devices. Otherwise, importers like me would never get an update from AT&T who doesn't support the phone.
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I've had 3 Cyan 800. I've experienced the Cyan to be last in line for updates. The black in same CV had it long before.
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The model, not the colour, everybody's been having different date updates, which Nokia mentioned, within two weeks. I had to manually do the OS update on my black Lumia 800. The firmware update came instantly.
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The model, not the colour, everybody's been having different date updates, which Nokia mentioned, within two weeks. I had to force the OS update on my black Lumia 800. The firmware came instantly.
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And the "within 2 weeks from Jan. 18th" only applied to first wave Lumia's.
The Lumia's which hit other european markets after the first wave didn't get it till last week, and is probably still rolling out.
Model/CV version, what's the difference? As I said the Black in same model/CV (Country Variant version) got the update before the Cyan.
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And the "within 2 weeks from Jan. 18th" only applied to first wave Lumia's.
The Lumia's which hit other european markets after the first wave didn't get it till last week, and is probably still rolling out.
Model/CV version, what's the difference? As I said the Black in same model/CV (Country Variant version) got the update before the Cyan.
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So isn't that Country/Market/Carrier related rather than colour? Does the colour have a specific ID? I suppose it's just a different colour/case right?
Ok, I see the situation.
Anyway, here in all shops are black. I was thinking for cayan but hope the black one will worth too.
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So isn't that Country/Market/Carrier related rather than colour? Does the colour have a specific ID? I suppose it's just a different colour/case right?
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Nokia claims it's based on IMEI. So, Cyan IMEI's are much later than black.
So, I see Best Buy are going to be selling this for $600 SIM-free, a good £100 cheaper than the UK.
What sort of issues will I see using the device in the UK if I buy it in the US? Will HSPA+ work? What about LTE?
Careful there: if it's the AT&T model, full price doesn't mean it's unlocked; it's just the price without the 2 year contract.
It is still alot cheaper buying it this way if you want a SIM free phone, the only issue is whether it will be possible to unlock it. I have found 1 site where they 'claim' to be able to unlock it for $79.99!!!
Im considering this as I really really want the cyan version, how likely do you think it will be that there will be a hack to unlock this?
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Careful there: if it's the AT&T model, full price doesn't mean it's unlocked; it's just the price without the 2 year contract.
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Well, that's just terrible.
Oh well, back to the drawing board.
edgedemon said:
It is still alot cheaper buying it this way if you want a SIM free phone, the only issue is whether it will be possible to unlock it. I have found 1 site where they 'claim' to be able to unlock it for $79.99!!!
Im considering this as I really really want the cyan version, how likely do you think it will be that there will be a hack to unlock this?
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If it is like Lumia 900 of AT&T, you will have to wait 6 to 8 months to get any unlock code from anyone, regardless how much you paid.
Also, AT&T itself is selling 920 for $449 without contract. 3rd party retailer will always sell for higher prices than AT&T because they don't get paid otherwise for contract free phones. But there is a slight chance that Best Buy can price match AT&T price for you.
On the other hand, Rogers version of 920 from Canada is selling for not much more and is known to be unlocked.
Both probably won't work with EU's LTE bands.
foxbat121 said:
If it is like Lumia 900 of AT&T, you will have to wait 6 to 8 months to get any unlock code from anyone, regardless how much you paid.
Also, AT&T itself is selling 920 for $449 without contract. 3rd party retailer will always sell for higher prices than AT&T because they don't get paid otherwise for contract free phones. But there is a slight chance that Best Buy can price match AT&T price for you.
On the other hand, Rogers version of 920 from Canada is selling for not much more and is known to be unlocked.
Both probably won't work with EU's LTE bands.
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So you are saying it will not support LTE 1800Mhz?
Tsury said:
So you are saying it will not support LTE 1800Mhz?
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Att here only uses 700Mhz for lte. Att phones typically come with 700Mhz and 1700Mhz bands. Even my dev version of 920 which supports more bands than att version only has 700/850/1700/2100 lte bands.
The RM820 (North American model) also has support for LTE 1900 (doesn't help anyone in Europe though).
so... is unlocking a cell phone tough?
the price is really very low.
pay extra 79.99$ is still cheaper than buying one in Europe. (but i hate the logo ._. )
but as edgedemon said, they just CLAIM that they can.
unlocking a phone must do this way?
or can jb the phone and install something to unlock?
or.. flashing the ROM?
Any idea how I'd go about getting a Rogers phone when I'm in the US? They're Canadian, right?
I'm not so concerned about LTE if it does HSPA+ on European frequencies.
What about flashing a US Device with a EU's Rom ?
I'm a real noobie in that domain !
In France LTE bands are 800 and 2600 ...
thx for advices !
Well, the rumour goes that all the 920s have all the bands available, but only the certain ones for that region are activated in software.
If that's true, then some day someone might work out how to flash the Radio ROM. But I doubt flashing the software ROM (which you can do just now) will make any changes to the radio ROM, so we'll need to wait until/if someone cracks it.
That goes for the 3G bands... I don't know if the phones come with all LTE bands available (and it's still a rumour that they even have all 3G bands)
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Well, the rumour goes that all the 920s have all the bands available, but only the certain ones for that region are activated in software.
If that's true, then some day someone might work out how to flash the Radio ROM. But I doubt flashing the software ROM (which you can do just now) will make any changes to the radio ROM, so we'll need to wait until/if someone cracks it.
That goes for the 3G bands... I don't know if the phones come with all LTE bands available (and it's still a rumour that they even have all 3G bands)
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Many thanks for your answer... I think I'm gonna buy it into my country ...
Slaybz said:
What about flashing a US Device with a EU's Rom ?
I'm a real noobie in that domain !
In France LTE bands are 800 and 2600
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AT&T device (a) can't be unlocked, so you can't use it with anything other than an AT&T SIM and (b) won't have European LTE frequencies.
Is there a US version of this phone? Or just the international.
Will I be fine using the grey version in the us? Is there anything I should be aware of?
there is definitely a us version. sold by b&h, best buy and amazon.
Kylewolf said:
Is there a US version of this phone? Or just the international.
Will I be fine using the grey version in the us? Is there anything I should be aware of?
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What carrier are you going to be using the phone on?
They gray version is not sold in the US and will not come with US firmware. Most of the bands and such are the same but band 71 is not present on the international (in this case gray) version and might not be a good fit to use on Tmobile. Also this is unlikely to work on Verizon either (I got it to work, but not stable).