When i play video from my browser my tablet usualy shutdown for no reason.
I was kindy hoping this is known issue that many are having or maybe some tweaks to fix this.
If never had my tablet shutdown in any other circumstances only if i had browser open.
Also is this tablet supose to be 1.4 ghz or 1.3 ghz because mine apearntly is 1.4 ghz stock while see many advertise this tablet at 1.3 ghz speeds.
Zer0K3wL said:
When i play video from my browser my tablet usualy shutdown for no reason.
I was kindy hoping this is known issue that many are having or maybe some tweaks to fix this.
If never had my tablet shutdown in any other circumstances only if i had browser open.
Also is this tablet supose to be 1.4 ghz or 1.3 ghz because mine apearntly is 1.4 ghz stock while see many advertise this tablet at 1.3 ghz speeds.
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Hi mate,
Ues, it's a known issue - the default browser is very buggy which is why I've installed Chrome and disabled the stock browser.
The device has a Tegra 3 CPU which actually has '5' cores. 1 clocked at 1.3ghz when you're web browsing, listening to music and 4 other cores clocked at 1.4ghz for when your playing intensive games like GTA Vice City or Modern Combat.
Most other Tegra devices are only clocked at 1.3ghz which is why the Xperia Tab has a bit of a umph on benchmarks.
Zer0K3wL said:
When i play video from my browser my tablet usualy shutdown for no reason.
I was kindy hoping this is known issue that many are having or maybe some tweaks to fix this.
If never had my tablet shutdown in any other circumstances only if i had browser open.
Also is this tablet supose to be 1.4 ghz or 1.3 ghz because mine apearntly is 1.4 ghz stock while see many advertise this tablet at 1.3 ghz speeds.
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Sony's Xperia Tablet S family uses Nvidia's Tegra 3 SoC which has an integral CPU rated 1.4 GHz maximum for single-core operation and 1.3 GHz maximum for multi-core operation. So the GHz rating you read depends on whether the advertiser is stating the CPU's single-core or multi-core rating.
I cannot provide any feedback on the stock browser used on the Xperia Tablet S tablet because I do not own one; I own Sony Tablet S tablets.
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Hi mate,
Ues, it's a known issue - the default browser is very buggy which is why I've installed Chrome and disabled the stock browser.
The device has a Tegra 3 CPU which actually has '5' cores. 1 clocked at 1.3ghz when you're web browsing, listening to music and 4 other cores clocked at 1.4ghz for when your playing intensive games like GTA Vice City or Modern Combat.
Most other Tegra devices are only clocked at 1.3ghz which is why the Xperia Tab has a bit of a umph on benchmarks.
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How do you disable and re enable ?
I use chrome but i have default browser still enabled.
Ofc using chrome does't change thing it can still shutdown like least once a day.
browser was slow untill today when aplied some tweaks that if found here.
Anyway you think this tablet gonna be perfectly stable with next update or in future ?
Sony's Xperia Tablet S family uses Nvidia's Tegra 3 SoC which has an integral CPU rated 1.4 GHz maximum for single-core operation and 1.3 GHz maximum for multi-core operation. So the GHz rating you read depends on whether the advertiser is stating the CPU's single-core or multi-core rating.
I cannot provide any feedback on the stock browser used on the Xperia Tablet S tablet because I do not own one; I own Sony Tablet S tablets.
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If you happen to life nearby in Netherlands, Enschede you can come try out.
I can find my tablet back anyway using anti theft
My tablet has the same problem. I'm hoping it's only a firmware issue that can be resolved with an update in the future.
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My tablet has the same problem. I'm hoping it's only a firmware issue that can be resolved with an update in the future.
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They better fix it or i'm going nag nag nag nag untill they do send letter every day and e-mail every day.
Anyway i could return my tablet but rather not their no alternatives except transformer which have 9/10 being below quality.
I bought a transformer half year ago it had 3 dead pixels pissed me so off few month's later did some googling found out 9/10 are just bad that it was lotery tablet.
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They better fix it or i'm going nag nag nag nag untill they do send letter every day and e-mail every day.
Anyway i could return my tablet but rather not their no alternatives except transformer which have 9/10 being below quality.
I bought a transformer half year ago it had 3 dead pixels pissed me so off few month's later did some googling found out 9/10 are just bad that it was lotery tablet.
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I did a factory reset today, see if that fixes anything. If not, I might take it a service centre for repair. The way the video and sound corrupts before it powers off makes me suspect a faulty CPU or motherboard...
Cant be faulty board or cpu aslong problems only occur in browser, everything would behave bad then.
Found a way to disable default browser but now I have no idea how to enable it again.
Zer0K3wL said:
Cant be faulty board or cpu aslong problems only occur in browser, everything would behave bad then.
Found a way to disable default browser but now I have no idea how to enable it again.
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Go into Settings -> Apps -> All
Then scroll all the way to the bottom, all of the disabled apps are at the bottom. Tap 'Browser' and enable.
Does your tablet also have the crash/power off problem in the Youtube App? Mine has. And it also had it a few times when playing a movie in MX Player. But never in games. Games never make it power off, not even heavy games such as GTA Vice City.
I also am experiencing crashes with the Youtube app...
First venture into the tablet market and now i'm doing my best to thwart off buyers remorse.
Sony, wtf?
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Youtube ap is only thing that haven't crashed for me yet.
Anyway i disabled to default browser now hope this lowers the shutdowns to like never else gonna consider making call with sony tomorow nagging untill they fix it.
Zer0K3wL said:
Youtube ap is only thing that haven't crashed for me yet.
Anyway i disabled to default browser now hope this lowers the shutdowns to like never else gonna consider making call with sony tomorow nagging untill they fix it.
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I have had no more crashes since I did a factory reset two days ago, and I haven't disabled any built-in app since the reset. I have also turned off Clear Audio +
Can u send me all xperia tabs stock apps,i lost all my stock app after f
Rooted r6b.
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i did factory reset before did't help.
I disabled stock browser no idea if that fixed it yet.
just shutdown again when open,t a app
No idea if their any good stability test apps for this tablet.
Anyway i ran linpack for android and it keeps getting inconsistent or in acurate results
Something tells me my tablet is faulty.........
Anyone else maybe try linpack for android run multi thread and single thread test to see if we all get same results.
I known linpack on pc it should give same results all the time 1 error means pc is unstable.
edit: just read everyone get those kindy results mostly.
Verry anoyed with fact my tablet having issues still
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No idea if their any good stability test apps for this tablet.
Anyway i ran linpack for android and it keeps getting inconsistent or in acurate results
Something tells me my tablet is faulty.........
Anyone else maybe try linpack for android run multi thread and single thread test to see if we all get same results.
I known linpack on pc it should give same results all the time 1 error means pc is unstable.
edit: just read everyone get those kindy results mostly.
Verry anoyed with fact my tablet having issues still
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The inconsistent results is probably because of bad compatibility between old Linpack and new Tegra 3 CPU. I'm getting inconsistent results too.
Just did another factory reset to get browser back as disabling it don't do anything anyway.
Hoping 1 more factory reset does the trick.
Anyone that have these issues also using antivirus free from AVG ?
Anyway found out my tablet ain't one that is't splash proof so don't have send it back for that reason
Zer0K3wL said:
Just did another factory reset to get browser back as disabling it don't do anything anyway.
Hoping 1 more factory reset does the trick.
Anyone that have these issues also using antivirus free from AVG ?
Anyway found out my tablet ain't one that is't splash proof so don't have send it back for that reason
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After the factory reset, did you choose to restore settings and app data during the first-use setup? I think it's best not to restore settings and data to have a clean as possible install. Also see if it helps if you leave ClearAudio+ turned off.
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I am not using AVG.
My tablet did shut down once since the factory reset, but it wasn't because of watching videos, it was shortly after a Firefox crash.
Watching videos has been without problems so far.
About the splash proof flaw, you can check it for yourself to make sure, by looking at the two bottom corners of the tablet. If you see a tiny gap between the aluminum back panel and the black edge of the front, you can be sure that your back panel needs replacing:
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First, I KNEW the thread title would get your attention. Second, i hear 95% of you calling BS, and I would too. In fact, I am still not sure what to make of it, and it makes ME think the number I am getting is BS.
Here's the deal. Got my replacement Prime back from repair, and like more than a few (read the RMA thread) I was lucky enough to get a replacement instead of a repair. I had sent in my Prime, originally received on 1/3 (shipped on 12/23... GROUND, from Best Buy, though I had paid for overnight. Serial was: BCOKAS**5153
Sent if for repair mostly for a cosmetic issue, scratches on screen border, but I had among the worst GPS compared to others I have seen, no sats indoors, maybe 3-4 outside, never a lock. After the 1/19 update (the one that we still haven't seen a change-log for) I started getting reasonably crappy GPS, LOL as in 4-6 sats inside, and 9-12 Outside, occasional locks, but nothing usable. My Wifi was decent, actually quite good I would say. Bluetooth did not dropout when streaming to BT headset watching Netflix.
The support folks offered to open the replacement and test it before sending, and I said: **** yeah: Test everything: GPS, Wifi/BT check for stuck pixels, make sure the serial shows, also check for light bleed. I was promised they would do all these things. Then it was overnighted to me.... All in all I felt it was a reasonably GOOD RMA/support/repair experience, especially in light of the horror stories, and stories of general incompetence we have seen.
New unit arrived, looked cosmetically perfect. One spot on back, it was glue or tape adhesive from assembly no doubt. Screen appears perfect, with just the tiniest bit of light bleed. Wifi is decent, not outstanding, but close to what I had. No stuck pixels, have yet to test BT streaming. GPS? I got another dead one. I have yet to see a SINGLE FREAKING SATELLITE, Outdoors or in, though it's cloudy here today, LOL (If it's so bad that clouds kill it, it's pretty ****ed up)
So that was a bummer. Yes, it's true I will probably not use it in the car (though I did use my OG that way once in a while, but I refuse to accept something that does not work. It is not in me to say: I can do without that.... even if I CAN, LOL. They are gonna get me another one, cause I am NOT RMA'ing this and going without it a week again... not for GPS anyway. If the WiFi was borked, it would be a different story.
One additional improvement. The power button on this one works correctly. I never knew how bad mine was, but compared to the 3 TF101's I had, it sucked. You never felt it bottom ot, or any detectable motion al all. It was just stiff and stuck, and I had to just press on it super hard to get any effect from it. The new one is perfect, the spring is stronger than the TF101 switches were, but at least it has a positive motion, with a solid detent, and you can tell when it hits bottom. Man, I can't believe how bad what I had was, and I had fully planned to live with it, LOL!
Okay so now for the weirdness. I am putting the new one through tests today, and among the, I ran Antutu. The numbers I got were nothing all that amazing, but the Processor speed threw me for a loop: 1600 Hz. WTF?????
Serial is C1OKAS**1793 I thought I was hallucinating. This thins is NOT ROOTED. I have NO performance tweaks, and nothing changed other than my 126 installed apps... How weird is this???
The numbers that I got were 10222, and a couple more in that range. This was running in Balanced mode. I switched it to Performance Mode (what used to be "normal" back in the Honeycomb days" ) rebooted, and ran Antutu again. Best number to date is 11089. Like I said, not up to par with folks that have REALLY overclocked, but somewhat better than my original... Anyone want to take a stab at explaining this to me? Maybe I am missing something super obvious?
Attached the Antutu result, and one other thing: The box sticker from a "C" serial number, for those who are curious: Check it: NO GPS LISTED!!!!I forgot to take a picture of my original box before RMA, screwed up there. Took dozens of the tablet to protect myself against claims of "CID" Customer Induced Damage, and forgot the box... grrrr.
GOOD NEWS: At least for the present the BOX LABEL still shows GPS. As many of us have discussed, as long as it SAYS GPS, we can still break chops to get them to fix it (or try to, I suppose) but what is with the question mark? Does anyone know the significance of that? That is kind of weird. I am pleased they left GPS spec on the box, expecially since I now have a completely dead GPS setup. I guess it's time to practice my Vulcan Nerve Pinch, but the few squeezes I gave it so far near the GPS Pogo Pins have been completely useless. Not a SINGLE SATELLITE HAS APPEARED YET.
An the Asus Support guy went on about how the Jan 19th patch was on this one. I said: as long as you see a few sats. send it along, He said (laughably) that it would get GPS performance as good as my TF101 did. Hmm. Well, to do that, it would need to start by getting ANY performance, LOL. Then it would need to work, in the car, with CoPilot live, all the way up the East Coast... Somehow, I don't see it happening. Sorry for the long post, but I was up late last night reading the huge tear down thread, and I had no energy for posting to a dozen separate threads today, on my latest "interesting" mix of features and performance with my new Prime. These feel like hand built devices.. every one is unique, LOL!
Hmm i have a C serial too and my GPS is fine. Little worse than my dhd but fine.
Get something like CPU Spy & see what it shows in the "unused cpu states" list at the bottom.
It's not overclocked at all, since ICS the Prime has 1.5 and 1.6 ghz in the kernel, however, they are both disabled. This is the only reason we currently have over clock scripts, with root we can enable these settings.
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It's not overclocked at all, since ICS the Prime has 1.5 and 1.6 ghz in the kernel, however, they are both disabled. This is the only reason we currently have over clock scripts, with root we can enable these settings.
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Antutu says mine is 1600 too.
Doktaphex said:
It's not overclocked at all, since ICS the Prime has 1.5 and 1.6 ghz in the kernel, however, they are both disabled. This is the only reason we currently have over clock scripts, with root we can enable these settings.
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This was what I was going to show with the cpu spy app
I just checked my prime, 1.6ghz with the latest update, no modifications.
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Mine too
BCOKAS serial number
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This was what I was going to show with the cpu spy app
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Exactly. If you all use cpu spy like lock says you will see it never enters the 1.6 state. The processor has those steps built in but aren't enabled in the firmware
People in here are funny..lmao. we already went thru this when ICS first dropped. All primes were showing 1.6ghz in the stats n benchmarks. But this isn't the case. WE KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. If you take CPU spy app n look it'll show the 1.5 n 1.6Ghz speeds disbled. MEANING YOU ARE NOT OVERCLOCKED. Only real overclock you can have is if your rooted and Running ViperControl mod or using SaturnDe ATP tweaks app or running script manually from directory /system/etc..
I was the first one to assume what all of you are saying also when ICS first came out. Then we dug in n researched further n found out this wasn't the case. It did lead us to a true overclock though since we knew it was in the kernel but just disabled. Me, I'm running a "TRUE" 1.6Ghz overclock using ATP tweaks app. Mines is confirmed through CPU spy. Plus my Antutu scores are well over 13,000. So 10,000 would be bad for an overclock like that if you really had one.
SORRY TO RAIN ON YALL PARADE BUT YOURE NOT OVERCLOCKED. Only through Root n methods I listed would you "Truely" be overclocked. CPU Spy will confirm your false claim. Don't feel bad, we thought so to at first when ICS first came out but quickly realized the real truth.
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demandarin said:
People in here are funny..lmao. we already went thru this when ICS first dropped. All primes were showing 1.6ghz in the stats n benchmarks. But this isn't the case. WE KNOW THIS FOR A FACT. If you take CPU spy app n look it'll show the 1.5 n 1.6Ghz speeds disbled. MEANING YOU ARE NOT OVERCLOCKED. Only real overclock you can have is if your rooted and Running ViperControl mod or using SaturnDe ATP tweaks app or running script manually from directory /system/etc..
I was the first one to assume what all of you are saying also when ICS first came out. Then we dug in n researched further n found out this wasn't the case. It did lead us to a true overclock though since we knew it was in the kernel but just disabled. Me, I'm running a "TRUE" 1.6Ghz overclock using ATP tweaks app. Mines is confirmed through CPU spy. Plus my Antutu scores are well over 13,000. So 10,000 would be bad for an overclock like that if you really had one.
SORRY TO RAIN ON YALL PARADE BUT YOURE NOT OVERCLOCKED. Only through Root n methods I listed would you "Truely" be overclocked. CPU Spy will confirm your false claim. Don't feel bad, we thought so to at first when ICS first came out but quickly realized the real truth.
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Uhm... No rain on MY parade. I think you misread my meaning I don't Have any great desire to overclock my ATP. Maybe later, for now I AM interested in the Kernel Module for Background I/O. Cranking up the processor does diddly when the Prime lags, and freezes every so often, especially under any type of background disk activity. 1.4 single. 1.3 ghz Multicore speeds are more than sufficient. People that overclock do so often for the wrong reasons. Why should I be cranking along at 1.6 ghz to browse a news article? If I had ultimate control I would like to control WHEN the additional core kick in, not how fast they tick along, doing a lot of nothing. I did miss your discovery that with ICS, it shows these rates. Right now I would give my right arm to know how, if you do all your posting with the prime, you deal with the cursor misbehavior in text boxes, like when it jumps to the first character position in the box, or insists on jumping to a spot and only the arrow keys will override that. And why is it "mines" do you have multiple Primes?
Edit: Also, I wasn't stating that "11, 089" was a enormous score, if you read I was stating that it was a BETTER score than my returned Prime, but not what I would expect if overclocked. I'm glad your numbers are so impressive. Maybe someday MY Prime will have a Antutu score of over 13,000! That's really fast! And that helps exactly how?
Also, since the processor has those steps built in it technically isn't overclocking to enable the 1.6GHz step. You are only overclocking when you go above that.
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Uhm... No rain on MY parade. I think you misread my meaning I don't Have any great desire to overclock my ATP. Maybe later, for now I AM interested in the Kernel Module for Background I/O. Cranking up the processor does diddly when the Prime lags, and freezes every so often, especially under any type of background disk activity. 1.4 single. 1.3 ghz Multicore speeds are more than sufficient. People that overclock do so often for the wrong reasons. Why should I be cranking along at 1.6 ghz to browse a news article? If I had ultimate control I would like to control WHEN the additional core kick in, not how fast they tick along, doing a lot of nothing. I did miss your discovery that with ICS, it shows these rates. Right now I would give my right arm to know how, if you do all your posting with the prime, you deal with the cursor misbehavior in text boxes, like when it jumps to the first character position in the box, or insists on jumping to a spot and only the arrow keys will override that. And why is it "mines" do you have multiple Primes?
Edit: Also, I wasn't stating that "11, 089" was a enormous score, if you read I was stating that it was a BETTER score than my returned Prime, but not what I would expect if overclocked. I'm glad your numbers are so impressive. Maybe someday MY Prime will have a Antutu score of over 13,000! That's really fast! And that helps exactly how?
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You are correct. Stock speeds are more than sufficient for everyday usage. Overclock just makes everything even more faster n snappier. Web pages load up faster, apps open up faster, etc.. Its not for everyone. But for me its so easy to do and has no ill effects on my tablet. I'm like why not harness the extra power. Its in the kernel anyways and newer tegra3 tablets down the line will have exact same chip but the 1.6Ghz speeds enabled Stock. I do find myself going back to stock speeds alot because I truly appreciate how fast this device already is stock and ill get better battery life on stock. I do get pretty good battery life also on 1.6Ghz overclock.
Also, yes, I DO ALL MY POSTINGs, from the prime. I don't experience the major slowdowns or lags some seem to experience. Mostly only occurred sporadically in stock browser. I used ATP settings to change scheduler from noop(stock) to cfq. It seemed to help for a while but then came across an issue before, where I never had before, where the whole stock browser seemed to just freeze up or stop loading. Before it might freeze n then prompt come up saying to wait or close. After the switch it didn't do any of this. So i switched back to noop I/o scheduler n everything has been running great for me. I mainly just use the ATP tweaks app now for quick access to overclocking. Less steps needed vs. Having to go into terminal emulator and pulling up vipercontrol. With ATP all I do is open up the app n press Turbo2 n I'm overclocked. I did try out the deadline I/o scheduler also but didn't seem to make much of a difference. Actually acted kinda funny at times so i switched back to Noop. As Noop is the best out of all of them. Its just some people switch to other schedulers based on their needs for prime to PC file transfers n such. So its really a preference thing and what you experience with your personal usage and benefit the change makes for you.
AS far as bench scores go, I just said that cuz you mentioned yours n wanted to show another form of proof you weren't overclocked. Now for the cursor jumping around, I know what you mean..lol. but I use thumb keyboard, split mode, n very use to using the arrow keys to correct anything. Yeah the cursor does jump around at times but it still goes where you want most of the time through touching where u want it. Plus copying n pasting is very easy for me now that o got the technique down packed. So all of this is working pretty well for me and not a hassle at all as majority of my post count had been made with my prime alone. Before I got the prime, I was posting from my Ipad n Atrix4g. I can type very fast using thumb keyboard. Love it. Also, I only have one prime. The "mines" must've been a typo.
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Also, since the processor has those steps built in it technically isn't overclocking to enable the 1.6GHz step. You are only overclocking when you go above that.
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Yeah yeah..lmfao but we can't enable it stock. So its still "Technically" considered overclocked since it is higher than allowed out the box. Only if you running a "true" overclock using vipercontrol mod or ATP tweaks.
It's all good.
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You are correct. Stock speeds are more than sufficient for everyday usage. Overclock just makes everything even more faster n snappier. Web pages load up faster, apps open up faster, etc.. Its not for everyone. But for me its so easy to do and has no ill effects on my tablet. I'm like why not harness the extra power. Its in the kernel anyways and newer tegra3 tablets down the line will have exact same chip but the 1.6Ghz speeds enabled Stock. I do find myself going back to stock speeds alot because I truly appreciate how fast this device already is stock and ill get better battery life on stock. I do get pretty good battery life also on 1.6Ghz overclock.
Also, yes, I DO ALL MY POSTINGs, from the prime. I don't experience the major slowdowns or lags some seem to experience. Mostly only occurred sporadically in stock browser. I used ATP settings to change scheduler from noop(stock) to cfq. It seemed to help for a while but then came across an issue before, where I never had before, where the whole stock browser seemed to just freeze up or stop loading. Before it might freeze n then prompt come up saying to wait or close. After the switch it didn't do any of this. So i switched back to noop I/o scheduler n everything has been running great for me. I mainly just use the ATP tweaks app now for quick access to overclocking. Less steps needed vs. Having to go into terminal emulator and pulling up vipercontrol. With ATP all I do is open up the app n press Turbo2 n I'm overclocked. I did try out the deadline I/o scheduler also but didn't seem to make much of a difference. Actually acted kinda funny at times so i switched back to Noop. As Noop is the best out of all of them. Its just some people switch to other schedulers based on their needs for prime to PC file transfers n such. So its really a preference thing and what you experience with your personal usage and benefit the change makes for you.
AS far as bench scores go, I just said that cuz you mentioned yours n wanted to show another form of proof you weren't overclocked. Now for the cursor jumping around, I know what you mean..lol. but I use thumb keyboard, split mode, n very use to using the arrow keys to correct anything. Yeah the cursor does jump around at times but it still goes where you want most of the time through touching where u want it. Plus copying n pasting is very easy for me now that o got the technique down packed. So all of this is working pretty well for me and not a hassle at all as majority of my post count had been made with my prime alone. Before I got the prime, I was posting from my Ipad n Atrix4g. I can type very fast using thumb keyboard. Love it. Also, I only have one prime. The "mines" must've been a typo.
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Yeah yeah..lmfao but we can't enable it stock. So its still "Technically" considered overclocked since it is higher than allowed out the box. Only if you running a "true" overclock using vipercontrol mod or ATP tweaks.
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I am glad that I am not alone with the cursor thing. A bit distracting, but for the most part I use the Hardware Keyboard in the dock when doing any serious typing. Like with my TF101 I like that the dock acts as a "stand" and a cover/case. and at home I tend to do a lot of wen/newsreader browsing, and posting, as you know.
I know you mentioned that battery life seems decent when running at full clock speed (okay, we know it's technically not "overclocked") so I say "full speed to avoid being corrected, LOL! I am curious about battery performance with it running at a true 1.6, and before you answer that it is not bad, can you say for certain, as in have you tested the discharge times with the Turbo2 enabled full time? Or, if you can at least say that it's not too bad, what would you peg the loss to be? 10% or more? I agree that if I had an app to easily toggle it on/off like the build in app that prioritizes processors, I would like to use it at times.. The built in one I think does the following:
Power Saving: Runs all Cores at reduced speed, I think its 600 MHz, 700 MHz when three are active, and 1 GHz when one or two are active
in "Balanced mode" - the cores are capped at 1.2 GHz
and in Performance Mode (used to be normal mod, just to keep it sounding exciting, they changed it to "Performance with ICS, LOL!) a single core runs at 1.4, or all 4 cores can run at full clip of 1.3
Not sure where they came up with these choices, but I will bet it was only after Nvidia ran them every which way, and came to these numbers as the best compromise of power and battery life. I think the Tegra 3 SOC also controls the video brightness and depth on the fly as well. All told a nice implementation. I still see lags occasionally, and games like Riptide GP freeze in a "Stutter Frame" kind of lock, till I exit to home screen, and resume the game, and it's good again.
Anyone else get that?
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I am glad that I am not alone with the cursor thing. A bit distracting, but for the most part I use the Hardware Keyboard in the dock when doing any serious typing. Like with my TF101 I like that the dock acts as a "stand" and a cover/case. and at home I tend to do a lot of wen/newsreader browsing, and posting, as you know.
I know you mentioned that battery life seems decent when running at full clock speed (okay, we know it's technically not "overclocked") so I say "full speed to avoid being corrected, LOL! I am curious about battery performance with it running at a true 1.6, and before you answer that it is not bad, can you say for certain, as in have you tested the discharge times with the Turbo2 enabled full time? Or, if you can at least say that it's not too bad, what would you peg the loss to be? 10% or more? I agree that if I had an app to easily toggle it on/off like the build in app that prioritizes processors, I would like to use it at times.. The built in one I think does the following:
Power Saving: Runs all Cores at reduced speed, I think its 600 MHz, 700 MHz when three are active, and 1 GHz when one or two are active
in "Balanced mode" - the cores are capped at 1.2 GHz
and in Performance Mode (used to be normal mod, just to keep it sounding exciting, they changed it to "Performance with ICS, LOL!) a single core runs at 1.4, or all 4 cores can run at full clip of 1.3
Not sure where they came up with these choices, but I will bet it was only after Nvidia ran them every which way, and came to these numbers as the best compromise of power and battery life. I think the Tegra 3 SOC also controls the video brightness and depth on the fly as well. All told a nice implementation. I still see lags occasionally, and games like Riptide GP freeze in a "Stutter Frame" kind of lock, till I exit to home screen, and resume the game, and it's good again.
Anyone else get that?
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See I don't even have a dock n typed all that with no problem. Thumb keyboard makes typing so easy n fast on the prime. All I use is 2 thumbs to type n can do it very fast with the split keyboard mode.
AS for battery life if you ever ran the built in performance mode full time, then you will know it drains the fastest out of all modes because its running the higher speeds. Now with 1.6Ghz it drains about the same or a lil faster than performance mode. I've noticed lately I've been getting battery life even better than performance mode on my overclock. For the quick implementation of it that's easy. It can't get no easier then this. Check this out..lol. if you rooted, all you have to do is go into prime developement section. Go to ATP tweaks thread. Download and install ATP app into prime. Then open it. Allow superuser permissions. Then just press the Turbo2 tab n bam! Now you St 1.6Ghz overclock. The real one. You can use CPU spy to confirm that 1.6ghz speed is enabled.
hen if you want to disable it, just reboot tablet. Then whenever u want. All u have to do is open up that app n press turbo2 tab. There's a turbo1 also n that's for 1.5Ghz.. There is a step to do a more hardcore overclock to where you can run ALL 4 CORES @1.6GHZ at the same time all the time. Of course this burns up the battery the fastest. I doubt u ready for that yet though... lmfao just take it slow..lol use the regular overclocks. Get ATP tweaks app in developement section.
For the games, I don't have no stutters or freezes even on stock speeds.
Anyone interested? 1.8ghz was easy peasy. Is this performance gain what you may call negligible? I forgot the file name, otherwise I'd post it. Debating whether or not to do that or not, as this is the first version - plan on going higher. Plus i already work on a kernel for the tf101, might not want to take on too much. Tell me if attached quadrant score is decent. What really makes the difference is usability, I feel that its much quicker - plus it keeps my hands warm, which is great.
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My goal is 2.0ghz, I was half joking with 'lilstevie' in the IRC chat when I said 2.0ghz was my oc demands for this new tablet - now, I'm kinda serious. Besides, this thing is still kinda slow compared to... my laptop. Also uses a new power reg.. so the max vcore limit could be higher. Yay. GPS is still a kick in the ****. That reminds me, what is the make/model of the GPS? If we can't boost reception, we can certainly try xmit power!
edit: I forgot to post the link for the actual kernel..
http://home.comcast.net/~ibladesi/woahno-it-burns.zip
blended the itsy bitsy asus changes for the big bad .21 kernel (being sardonic).
http://home.comcast.net/~ibladesi/ntrly-wrth-a-ver-bump-v2.zip
I'm going to write a script that will flash the kernel in terminal emulator later on.. thats how I flashed mine.. I'm going to include the texfat and tntfs modules and extract them to the /system/lib/modules directory.. Eventually, I will write a ROM agnostic init script that loads them upon startup.. but now its up to you to load them or write the script.
if you are using netiher exfat or ntfs, you don't need to load them..
if you need more juice for 1.8ghz..
echo 1350 > /sys/kernel/tegra_cap/core_cap_level
or if you want hand warmers..
echo 1400 > /sys/kernel/tegra_cap/core_cap_level
I think, that since this thread was moved.. it should stay here.. Only royalty can post in Development section.
A boost in clock speed could certainly speed up GPS lock down. So a Quadcore 2.0ghz would be beasty!
Nice...be careful not to burn it up!
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babymatteo said:
A boost in clock speed could certainly speed up GPS lock down. So a Quadcore 2.0ghz would be beasty!
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Nah, at any speed the GPS will still be uhh.. lacking. Boosting the signal beyond regulations might help, or might hurt. Similar to a cable modem's downstream being amplified, if you amplify a noisy line - things usually get worse. In the previous post, I said xmit power, I meant rx. Or wait, is it bidirectional? I digress.
nice... good seeing you here been running your **** on my tf101 since the beginning...
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the GPS is omnidirectional i think
I'd say go for the overclocking.
edit: is there anyway you can make the 1.7Ghz or 1.8Ghz into an apk form to install on stock roms that's rooted? like Dr.Wowe EzOverclock app that enables 1.6ghz by just installing the app.
Also the GPS is from Broadcom, I believe. the exact name and serial # can be found in GPS teardown thread.
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Anyone interested? 1.8ghz was easy peasy. Is this performance gain what you may call negligible? I forgot the file name, otherwise I'd post it. Debating whether or not to do that or not, as this is the first version - plan on going higher. Plus i already work on a kernel for the tf101, might not want to take on too much. Tell me if attached quadrant score is decent. What really makes the difference is usability, I feel that its much quicker - plus it keeps my hands warm, which is great.
My goal is 2.0ghz, I was half joking with 'lilstevie' in the IRC chat when I said 2.0ghz was my oc demands for this new tablet - now, I'm kinda serious. Besides, this thing is still kinda slow compared to... my laptop. Also uses a new power reg.. so the max vcore limit could be higher. Yay. GPS is still a kick in the ****. That reminds me, what is the make/model of the GPS? If we can't boost reception, we can certainly try xmit power!
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that score is decent but I would think you'd score even higher than that. my score on 1.6Ghz overclock is a little lower.
for a beefier overclock, use system tuner pro, then go into CPU tweaks. then set governor to performance. then you could set the min. clock to Max. then now you will be running all 4 cores, at the same time, at 1.8Ghz, Fulltime. I guarantee you will score alot higher than what you posted. it will drain battery faster though..lmao
Here's my score on 1.6Ghz
Blades said:
Anyone interested? 1.8ghz was easy peasy. Is this performance gain what you may call negligible? I forgot the file name, otherwise I'd post it. Debating whether or not to do that or not, as this is the first version - plan on going higher. Plus i already work on a kernel for the tf101, might not want to take on too much. Tell me if attached quadrant score is decent. What really makes the difference is usability, I feel that its much quicker - plus it keeps my hands warm, which is great.
My goal is 2.0ghz, I was half joking with 'lilstevie' in the IRC chat when I said 2.0ghz was my oc demands for this new tablet - now, I'm kinda serious. Besides, this thing is still kinda slow compared to... my laptop. Also uses a new power reg.. so the max vcore limit could be higher. Yay. GPS is still a kick in the ****. That reminds me, what is the make/model of the GPS? If we can't boost reception, we can certainly try xmit power!
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I'm interested. Be happy to test for you.
Blades said:
Anyone interested? 1.8ghz was easy peasy. Is this performance gain what you may call negligible? I forgot the file name, otherwise I'd post it. Debating whether or not to do that or not, as this is the first version - plan on going higher. Plus i already work on a kernel for the tf101, might not want to take on too much. Tell me if attached quadrant score is decent. What really makes the difference is usability, I feel that its much quicker - plus it keeps my hands warm, which is great.
My goal is 2.0ghz, I was half joking with 'lilstevie' in the IRC chat when I said 2.0ghz was my oc demands for this new tablet - now, I'm kinda serious. Besides, this thing is still kinda slow compared to... my laptop. Also uses a new power reg.. so the max vcore limit could be higher. Yay. GPS is still a kick in the ****. That reminds me, what is the make/model of the GPS? If we can't boost reception, we can certainly try xmit power!
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Haha there is no such thing as negligible when it comes to overclocking brotha! Take it as high as possible. I have already came up with a cooling mod I eventually want to try. I have to see how to take off the mobo though.
How is your stability? How do you increase vcore? I use set cpu stress test and at 1.7 I eventually freeze.
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demandarin said:
I'd say go for the overclocking.
edit: is there anyway you can make the 1.7Ghz or 1.8Ghz into an apk form to install on stock roms that's rooted? like Dr.Wowe EzOverclock app that enables 1.6ghz by just installing the app.
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The stock kernel allows for 1.6 that's why an apk works. For it to oc to 1.7 or higher it needs a custom kernel.
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Crank it as high as it can go. Anyone have an idea for how to liquid cool the prime? lol
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Crank it as high as it can go. Anyone have an idea for how to liquid cool the prime? lol
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You could make a case that does something to this effect. Since the backplate is aluminum all you need is some thermal paste between it and the case and it would work decently well. Ideally you'd want to open the Prime and paste between the case and the processor.
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Here's my score on 1.6Ghz
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why oh does my 2d score suck
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why oh does my 2d score suck
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wow! you did another test..lmfao this score is alot higher now.
but yeah, my 2D score is more than double yours even on your 1.8Ghz. even my 3D score was higher than yours on the one test in your OP.
is it possibly because I have a NeoGeo Emulator installed? lol They were the originators and best at 2D graphics (its a joke)
do you think it may be possibly because I have force GPU rendering enabled on 2D applications? its in developer settings in prime. I've been running my prime with this enabled & 1.6Ghz overclock. I bet if you enable it and do another test, your 2D score will be alot higher. This setup makes my prime super fast n fluid. lag free(actually was lag free before that). plus I cut off windows and transitions animation. everything near instant now.
Thank you, running stock volt at 1.8 and everything sweet for now ^.^
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Boo crap poop. My prime doesnt seem to like 1.8ghz, even with the additional voltage. Well best of luck to those with the golden chips.
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Boo crap poop. My prime doesnt seem to like 1.8ghz, even with the additional voltage. Well best of luck to those with the golden chips.
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Yup..not all chips are created equal lol
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Overclocking rocks! Yes, maybe those with open primes could add a passive heatsink to the Tegra 3 CPU. Help cool her down even more. I would think that this would help with the 2.0 ghz goal. Right now its a thin copper tape over it. Add a heatsink with copper tube pasted on chip.
Glad to see you on the prime Blades, love the work you did on the TF101.
Here's my question... Is it possible to make a kernel and just use the companion core as an additional core and have it run all the time? I love having five cores but it almost seems a waste to have one shut down. I understand battery life would go down but it wouldn't bother me if it went from 3-4 days to 1-2 days.
Also, I thought I seen somewhere that manufacturer spec had the companion core at 1.4GHz and the rest at 1.3GHz. Anyway to bump the companion core up to that as well?
I don't know if any of this is possible... Just a thought.
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Hi all,
When installing content from the Play Store and then switching to another application such as the browser, the system completely pauses when the notification centre at the bottom of the screen changes to "Installing x application...." i.e. when the application is being written to the data partition.
Now, this issue existed on my HTC Desire but didn't exist on my Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy SII both of which use EXT4 as their file systems. Running the mount command on the Transformer Prime, I can see it's also using EXT4.
What gives with the pause when an application is being written to storage? Can anyone confirm they experience the same? Do custom roms fix this issue?
For reference, I installed Temple Run to double check this issue existed before posting, so try that application to install if you wish to check for yourselves.
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Hi all,
When installing content from the Play Store and then switching to another application such as the browser, the system completely pauses when the notification centre at the bottom of the screen changes to "Installing x application...." i.e. when the application is being written to the data partition.
Now, this issue existed on my HTC Desire but didn't exist on my Galaxy Nexus or Galaxy SII both of which use EXT4 as their file systems. Running the mount command on the Transformer Prime, I can see it's also using EXT4.
What gives with the pause when an application is being written to storage? Can anyone confirm they experience the same? Do custom roms fix this issue?
For reference, I installed Temple Run to double check this issue existed before posting, so try that application to install if you wish to check for yourselves.
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Supposedly either Asus cheaped out on our storage chips or the drivers really suck. There was a thread about how the sd card performs pretty bad when compared to other android devices.
This is normal. Multi-core process scheduling is clearly not a strong point of the Android OS.
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This is normal. Multi-core process scheduling is clearly not a strong point of the Android OS.
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That's the thing, it can't be normal as my Galaxy Nexus does not suffer from the same bug, even when it was on Android 4.0.2. The Galaxy SII also didn't when on Android 2.3.x.
At a guess, it's down to one or a mixture of things (again, I stress this is a guess):
Poor choice in mount flags
Tegra3 - I know it doesn't have the best CPU out there
Poor quality memory/storage
its because priotrity is given to downloads from the market. you can install an app in developement section called ATP tweaks. then change the default noop(which overall is the best) to like a deadline I/O scheduler. this should relieve the slowdown you seeing while donwloads from market happening. there are also other schedulers you can choose from of you want to experiment. but the stock one is the best regardless of market slowdown. those downloads just getting priority over everything else so it'll download and install faster.
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Mekrel said:
That's the thing, it can't be normal as my Galaxy Nexus does not suffer from the same bug, even when it was on Android 4.0.2. The Galaxy SII also didn't when on Android 2.3.x.
At a guess, it's down to one or a mixture of things (again, I stress this is a guess):
Poor choice in mount flags
Tegra3 - I know it doesn't have the best CPU out there
Poor quality memory/storage
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Actually Tegra3 does have the best/most powerful CPU in the tablet market today. nothing out now, in tablets, beats it quad core 4+1 CPU. then add in the fact we can already overclock to 1.6, 1.7 & 1.8Ghz already and nothing is touching the tegra3 in Prime right now. Tegra3 CPU smokes new Ipad CPU. Tegra3 has a good gpu also but new Ipad GPU is more powerful, due to it new high Res. display needing most of the power.
demandarin said:
its because priotrity is given to downloads from the market. you can install an app in developement section called ATP tweaks. then change the default noop(which overall is the best) to like a deadline I/O scheduler. this should relieve the slowdown you seeing while donwloads from market happening. there are also other schedulers you can choose from of you want to experiment. but the stock one is the best regardless of market slowdown. those downloads just getting priority over everything else so it'll download and install faster.
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Actually Tegra3 does have the best/most powerful CPU in the tablet market today. nothing out now, in tablets, beats it quad core 4+1 CPU. then add in the fact we can already overclock to 1.6, 1.7 & 1.8Ghz already and nothing is touching the tegra3 in Prime right now. Tegra3 CPU smokes new Ipad CPU. Tegra3 has a good gpu also but new Ipad GPU is more powerful, due to it new high Res. display needing most of the power.
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Well I don't buy the scheduler point because that just wouldn't make sense. Installing from the market doesn't require such importance/attention, I would much rather browse the web whilst applications update in the background. In fact, the video's of this issue posted by me here, show the Galaxy Nexus installing Temple Run quicker in my opinion.
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The Prime is supposed to be better than the Galaxy Nexus on all fronts in terms of performance but so far, web browsing and multi tasking is better on my Nexus (which is completely stock). The web browsing experience on this tablet is absolutely shocking, it's pretty much a case of waiting for pages to respond or waiting for the "Browser is not responding" message.
I've done the paperclip reset, linux cold boot mode and factory reset. I'm sad to say that I'm regretting this £500 purchase. I'm not moaning for no reason, I would rather love this tablet and fix these issues as there's nothing else on the market Android tablet wise worth getting. However, I can't live with this unacceptable performance.
Guys share your gaming reviews of One X+
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HTC One X+ Hands On Review Gaming
For sure a good upgrade of htc one x and a good phone. HTC <3
Am I missing something here, most games run badly on my x+, there is stuttering and lag in games like Rayman, Granny Smith, Oscura...and Need For Speed is terrible, for a so called super fast processor I am not too impressed.
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Am I missing something here, most games run badly on my x+, there is stuttering and lag in games like Rayman, Granny Smith, Oscura...and Need For Speed is terrible, for a so called super fast processor I am not too impressed.
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Maybe the power saving mode is on?
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Maybe the power saving mode is on?
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Even with my power saving mode on, and there is a I lag at all when playing any games (Need for Speed, Tiger Woods, Dead Space etc)
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Dibben said:
Even with my power saving mode on, and there is a I lag at all when playing any games (Need for Speed, Tiger Woods, Dead Space etc)
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You mean even with power saving mode off?
I am experiencing lags on Dead Trigger.
Power Saver off, with it on I feel it's kind of normal to have lag
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I am experiencing lags on Dead Trigger.
Power Saver off, with it on I feel it's kind of normal to have lag
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Got zero lag in Dead trigger, tho I got major fps issues with Asphalt 7
Hope we will get some custom kernels when source is out.
We had this problem with the original one x too, its due to the gpu clock being synchronized with the cpu clock. that means that if the cpu load it high, per say a tegrazone game like shadowgun, then the gpu scales up as well alowing for fluid gameplay even with detailed graphics. However this also means that when the cpu load is light, i.e temple run, the gpu will hardly scale at all implying that the phone will lag with simple games like doodle jump but not graphics heavy games like dead trigger. Games like asphalt 7 lag because the game probably only uses 1 or 2 core, thus the gpu is only at aroung %50 power. Hamdir found a way to run the gpu independently but we`ll have to wait for proper root and custom recovery for that.
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We had this problem with the original one x too, its due to the gpu clock being synchronized with the cpu clock. that means that if the cpu load it high, per say a tegrazone game like shadowgun, then the gpu scales up as well alowing for fluid gameplay even with detailed graphics. However this also means that when the cpu load is light, i.e temple run, the gpu will hardly scale at all implying that the phone will lag with simple games like doodle jump but not graphics heavy games like dead trigger. Games like asphalt 7 lag because the game probably only uses 1 or 2 core, thus the gpu is only at aroung %50 power. Hamdir found a way to run the gpu independently but we`ll have to wait for proper root and custom recovery for that.
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Thanks for great explanation..so is this fixable and has it been done for the One X already? ( link if poss? ) Been thinking of taking it back due to issues of lag on lower specced games.
never experienced lag on rayman and granny smith in the orginal One X, even in stock, maybe your X+ is throttling?
but ryanjsoo is correct, the problem is the ondemand governor settings
if you have root you can fix most of it, we also made simple app for a quick toggle
then we worked on custom kernels and fixed few more trouble with the CPU
but mostly for low specced games its the governor's fault and in a nutshell the gaming boost app will fix it
gaming boost app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29053431&postcount=68 (requires root, if you have it, use the non stock version because the stock version is limited to the classic One X' 1.5ghz)
we also made a gaming kernel here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33805830&postcount=10399 (list of the specific patches we did, also you dont need GPU520, but a kernel similar can help)
gaming guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664391 (a little outdated now, but tons of info, latest info at the top)
need for speed most wanted is the developer fault, on tegra 3 devices with higher than 1.3ghz speed its not calling the proper Tegra optimization
I fixed it here: Need For Speed Most Wanted v1.0.28 for Android - Tegra 3 performance patch + Multiple effects configuration patch
other modded games are found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845993
also most of Gameloft games have a severe allergy to Tegra (they must hate Nvidia or something)
and finally everything you need to know is in the One X mega information thread
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Am I missing something here, most games run badly on my x+, there is stuttering and lag in games like Rayman, Granny Smith, Oscura...and Need For Speed is terrible, for a so called super fast processor I am not too impressed.
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I am experiencing lags on Dead Trigger.
Power Saver off, with it on I feel it's kind of normal to have lag
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Got zero lag in Dead trigger, tho I got major fps issues with Asphalt 7
Hope we will get some custom kernels when source is out.
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So it sounds like HTC thought they were amazing by coming out with a tegra 3 device, quad core, clocked at 1.7gh, and cannot play efficiently games such as doodle jump, angry birds, etc? WTF??? Basically if it's not a tegra 3 specific game (only a handful out there to begin with) this phone is basically as good as an iphone first generation when it comes to gaming? WTF is HTC thinking? Above that to make this device work the way it should being talked about so much online about how amazing the processor, tegra 3, quad core, blah blah blah is, we need to go far beyond voiding warranty with root and custom kernals? Epic Fail anyone?
Damn, was really looking forward to picking this device up as soon as it came out on ATT but more i actually read about user reviews, the specs on paper mean crap!!!
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never experienced lag on rayman and granny smith in the orginal One X, even in stock, maybe your X+ is throttling?
but ryanjsoo is correct, the problem is the ondemand governor settings
if you have root you can fix most of it, we also made simple app for a quick toggle
then we worked on custom kernels and fixed few more trouble with the CPU
but mostly for low specced games its the governor's fault and in a nutshell the gaming boost app will fix it
gaming boost app: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29053431&postcount=68 (requires root, if you have it, use the non stock version because the stock version is limited to the classic One X' 1.5ghz)
we also made a gaming kernel here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33805830&postcount=10399 (list of the specific patches we did, also you dont need GPU520, but a kernel similar can help)
gaming guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664391 (a little outdated now, but tons of info, latest info at the top)
need for speed most wanted is the developer fault, on tegra 3 devices with higher than 1.3ghz speed its not calling the proper Tegra optimization
I fixed it here: Need For Speed Most Wanted v1.0.28 for Android - Tegra 3 performance patch + Multiple effects configuration patch
other modded games are found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845993
also most of Gameloft games have a severe allergy to Tegra (they must hate Nvidia or something)
and finally everything you need to know is in the One X mega information thread
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Just sucks for an android noob like me to have to go through all the above just to have this device work the way it SHOULD out of the box from HTC? Wow
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Just sucks for an android noob like me to have to go through all the above just to have this device work the way it SHOULD out of the box from HTC? Wow
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well no i was just trying to be helpful and providing you with all info
we actually worked hard to make it super simple
all you need to do is root and one click with the gaming boost app
and like I said games like rayman and granny smith runs 60fps on stock One X
something is wrong in your scenario so don't generalize yet
and its not HTC or Nvidia's fault if gameloft is fighting them...or if EA messed up their tegra version of NFSMW for most T3 devices, which works fine on the Nexus 7
i dont know its part of the trouble with android i guess
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well no i was just trying to be helpful and providing you with all info
we actually worked hard to make it super simple
all you need to do is root and one click with the gaming boost app
and like I said games like rayman and granny smith runs 60fps on stock One X
something is wrong
and its not HTC or Nvidia's fault if gameloft is fighting them...or if EA messed up their tegra version of NFSMW for most T3 devices, which works fine on the Nexus 7
i dont know its part of the trouble with android i guess
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If you can imagine i've just never even used an android device ever and currently using an iphone 4. Waited for the 5 to come out but not impressed with it's specs at all and with no jailbreak that device is completely useless! Did some research and really love what i see in this phone and all the video reviews and what not. Even went to an ATT store to play with the original HOX and liked it. Really looking forward to this when it comes out to ATT in USA.
Just i really game a lot, watch videos, etc with my phone so though this phone would be number 1 in that department but reading more and more stuff like this it sounds like this device is very sub-par when it comes to basic gaming which worries me.
Sorry if i came off rude as there was no intent to the developers on the creation of these hacks, greatly appreciate all their work and time. Just trying to understand what a root is, what a kernal is, etc etc, i think i need a college class on android! Lol. Guess i was spoiled on how easy Apple Ios is and especially all you need is 1 simple jailbreak to unlock it all. Seems there's about 6 different kinds of "jailbreaks" when it comes to android in order to have everything unlocked, root, s-off, custom kernals, etc that i probably still don't even know about. Just trying to learn as much as i can about this stuff but for me it's dang confusing.
As you can see from my sig that last time i was around was the HTC Tilt2 days and wm 6.1 and when basically sense original first came out.
@deeznuts like i said no way it should face trouble running most games
the original complaint came from hawrai68 maybe something is wrong with his set up
Ture, the one x and tegra chip were practically built for gaming, its just that previously not many devices had the tegra soc so not many games are optimized. However recently with the release of the nexus 7 and such, more and more games are supporting tegra including gameloft! the chip itself shouldn`t be the problem and especially with Hamdir here, he`s like a one x prodigy, thanks for your work.
ryanjsoo said:
Ture, the one x and tegra chip were practically built for gaming, its just that previously not many devices had the tegra soc so not many games are optimized. However recently with the release of the nexus 7 and such, more and more games are supporting tegra including gameloft! the chip itself shouldn`t be the problem and especially with Hamdir here, he`s like a one x prodigy, thanks for your work.
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Where have you read that Gameloft supports Tegra? Most of their games lag on Tegra.
Sharpshooterrr said:
Where have you read that Gameloft supports Tegra? Most of their games lag on Tegra.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/Game...-optimized-for-Googles-Nexus-7-tablet_id32493
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especially with Hamdir here, he`s like a one x prodigy, thanks for your work.
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Hats off to hamdir
I noticed,that the count off active cores is most of the time only or max two cores.even in gaming or benchmarking...
Could this be the problem for the bad gaming performance since jb update?on playing vice city i recogniced that the framerate raises a lot when all four cores are active.this happens some time for a few seconds,then it returns back to one or two active cores and the game starts lagging....
Any solution so far?or is there anybody still on ics to test if it is the same activitie there?
I used cpu stats to tes cause it shows cores activities in statusbar.
No one?doesnt really anybody give a s**t bout this tablet???
Know how you feel, I have a htc desire phone which is running for 3years and still has (few) active developers.. Here's like nobody home.. Probably because bootloader is still locked.. I don't have time atm but I really want to try to root my xperia tablet.. We'll see what the future holds..
For the cores.. Probably bad tuning by Sony devs, this is likely how they managed battery to last longer, ok but not for gaming..
They upgraded to kernel 3 which is a good thing, but they kinda f***** it up..
Know you're not alone and don't forget anything is possible..!!
Greetz
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No one?doesnt really anybody give a s**t bout this tablet???
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Seems you aren't to active yourself..
I kinda feel the same too. I have a Nexus One which is pretty old but with 4.2.2 on and a lot of roms to choose.
With this tablet I feel abandoned. It is a shame because it's a great tablet, nice design, good materials.
If only they let us unlock the bootloader...
Fix core count on Xperia tablet S after JB update.
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I noticed,that the count off active cores is most of the time only or max two cores.even in gaming or benchmarking...
Could this be the problem for the bad gaming performance since jb update?on playing vice city i recogniced that the framerate raises a lot when all four cores are active.this happens some time for a few seconds,then it returns back to one or two active cores and the game starts lagging....
Any solution so far?or is there anybody still on ics to test if it is the same activitie there?
I used cpu stats to tes cause it shows cores activities in statusbar.
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Hi, since i finally can post here, Yes, the Xperia tablet S with the Tegra3 will only run on 2 cores.
I know how to fix this,
First off, factory reset (backup blabla) Why? Because when you update to jb and dont factory reset after the upgrade, it will be very laggy and buggy, dunno why, it try it. - could also just skip this if you dont want to back up and etc
Second, install an app calld tegra overclock.
Third, after that, open the app, go to core count, enable all cores, enable on boot, done, should run way way smoother and faster.
And last, thanks button if this worked
Note: App isnt free. but uhm, google :angel: