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OK,now I am facing a huge problem..I can't run any game on my x10,
When i run a game, at start it will run normally, after loading or few seconds then it will crash and causing a boot..i tested on every game eg gameloft,fruit ninja,angry bird except sudoku(maybe it didnt give the gpu too much stress),before it boot the notification light will become purple in colour .. I m on wb tw rom v4.04 custom and doom's kernel v04a and oc to 1267mhz ..I think my gpu is spoilt because I used to reinstall the rom and wipe everythingbut no use..
Anyone can help me and I will very appreciate ..thx
iVolcaNoz said:
Sorry for my broken english,
OK,now I am facing a huge problem..I can't run any game on my x10,
When i run a game, at start it will run normally, after loading or few seconds then it will crash and causing a boot..i tested on every game eg gameloft,fruit ninja,angry bird except sudoku(maybe it didnt give the gpu too much stress),before it boot the notification light will become purple in colour .. I m on wb tw rom v4.04 custom and doom's kernel v04a and oc to 1267mhz ..I think my gpu is spoilt because I used to reinstall the rom and wipe everythingbut no use..
Anyone can help me and I will very appreciate ..thx
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You might want to start there...
It is not adviced to overclock for prolonged period of time.
Set the max frequency back to 998 and see what happens.
My_Immortal said:
You might want to start there...
It is not adviced to overclock for prolonged period of time.
Set the max frequency back to 998 and see what happens.
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Ok, but before I used to oc to 1227 for a long period but nth happen
iVolcaNoz said:
Ok, but before I used to oc to 1227 for a long period but nth happen
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That's why they say "don't use for long" and not, for example, "don't use for 3 days"!
There will be a point when your chipset will no longer be able to handle it,
and that point is unique to every phone/user, so better lower or eliminate the overclock altogether.
Dun clock to max,just a slight clock would be good like 10360,or just set to normal clock first
My_Immortal said:
That's why they say "don't use for long" and not, for example, "don't use for 3 days"!
There will be a point when your chipset will no longer be able to handle it,
and that point is unique to every phone/user, so better lower or eliminate the overclock altogether.
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Fruit ninja works..that means I can only oc when it is needed example gaming and need to back to 998 or below after done?
iVolcaNoz said:
Fruit ninja works..that means I can only oc when it is needed example gaming and need to back to 998 or below after done?
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If I were you, I wouldn't overclock at all, because reboots are an indication
that your chipset cannot tolerate higher frequencies and chipset death
can have you run to a service center for a new motherboard...
These older chipsets can't overclock like newer ones either, the tolerances are a lot lower.
You're going to fry your chip dude!
I wouldn't recommend going over 1167 personally...
Even that not for more than a short period.. Unless you don't mind risking your phone dying.
SE phones tend to run hot anyway, you are really straining it for sure.
My_Immortal said:
If I were you, I wouldn't overclock at all, because reboots are an indication
that your chipset cannot tolerate higher frequencies and chipset death
can have you run to a service center for a new motherboard...
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Ok..I will follow ur advice and thx u r really immortal xD
scoobysnacks said:
These older chipsets can't overclock like newer ones either, the tolerances are a lot lower.
You're going to fry your chip dude!
I wouldn't recommend going over 1167 personally...
Even that not for more than a short period.. Unless you don't mind risking your phone dying.
SE phones tend to run hot anyway, you are really straining it for sure.
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I m shocked when I heard tat..I dun have tat kind of knowledge .and thx for telling me those thing and I will take your advice ..thx
let me know cause i have the same prob after update
Does your phone reboot also when using the Camera continously?? mine does
alamatnitotoy said:
Does your phone reboot also when using the Camera continously?? mine does
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Are you setting the focus to infinity?
The cam seems to be having problems with this
scoobysnacks said:
These older chipsets can't overclock like newer ones either, the tolerances are a lot lower.
You're going to fry your chip dude!
I wouldn't recommend going over 1167 personally...
Even that not for more than a short period.. Unless you don't mind risking your phone dying.
SE phones tend to run hot anyway, you are really straining it for sure.
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Does X10i have a temp sensor in SoC ? I thought only sensor was in Battery! So it's not SoC thats getting hot (sure, that one also...) it's the Battery. Maybe SE choose the cheaper option, which get's hotter.
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Does X10i have a temp sensor in SoC ? I thought only sensor was in Battery! So it's not SoC thats getting hot (sure, that one also...) it's the Battery. Maybe SE choose the cheaper option, which get's hotter.
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I have a battery temperature widget on my homescreens
(from Minimalistic Text app)
and sometimes I notice temperatures as high as 45 Celcius,
but then again, this time of year the weather is at 35-40 Celcius in my country.
The highest I've seen is 54 while I was charging, connected to 3G and
having a half-hour phone call.
Battery does get hot easily, but I am not sure what's the deal with
the motherboard because I haven't had any random reboots for the past few months.
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Does X10i have a temp sensor in SoC ? I thought only sensor was in Battery! So it's not SoC thats getting hot (sure, that one also...) it's the Battery. Maybe SE choose the cheaper option, which get's hotter.
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It isn't only the battery hence the burning smell if you remove the battery and smell that area, and all the motherboard problems...
The phone itself runs pretty hot, much hotter than any other I've owned.
This morning I restarted my prime and im looking at system tuner pro...
All 4 cores are active and stuck on either 475mhz or 1.2mhz!
I didn't change anything...governer is interactive 102-1.6mhz limit....the cores wont turn off or scale down. It would usually scale down to 102mhz and turn off 2 cores...but they're all online...
FAST is good but it's killing my battery =P
Anyone know whats going on?
Pretty sire this is across the board for the most part. This happened after update to ICS or last update. Ive noticed it also but it scales to other frequencies also. Doesn't seem to effect battery too much. Your best bet if you worried about battery is to throw it in power savings mode in Asus quick settings. But no matter what mode its in, it seems to like to stay near maxed out. Maybe Asus adjusted the frequency timing to speed up things in ICS.
apologies
I'm sorry, I didn't see any other posts about this issue.
Thanks for your input
Yeah, I've had the same problem since the ICS update, but still can't find a solution, so I'm waitng for recovery and back to HC.. And, btw, it's killing my battery - it barely holds a whole day since then..
This seems like a plausible explanation for all the reboots people are seeing. With ICS the processor is kept in a more active state which uncovers wafer defects and heats up the SoC until it goes into protection mode.
Some processors handle the load better than others and it seems the spread is veeeery wide. nVidia is probably supplying Asus with parts from all bins, if they even bother to quality check and rate their parts after coming off the production lines.
I would argue that nVidia's thresholds for what is considered a passable Tegra 3 chip are way too low for real world applications.
remics said:
This seems like a plausible explanation for all the reboots people are seeing. With ICS the processor is kept in a more active state which uncovers wafer defects and heats up the SoC until it goes into protection mode.
Some processors handle the load better than others and it seems the spread is veeeery wide. nVidia is probably supplying Asus with parts from all bins, if they even bother to quality check and rate their parts after coming off the production lines.
I would argue that nVidia's thresholds for what is considered a passable Tegra 3 chip are way too low for real world applications.
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Maybe. I can run overclocked to 1.6Ghz n still be fine no reboots. Like you said, not all chips exactly the same though. Small variances between all chips.
I'm hoping/assuming ASUS is aware of this, but just in case they're not, has anyone brought this to Gary's attention?
seeknom said:
I'm hoping/assuming ASUS is aware of this, but just in case they're not, has anyone brought this to Gary's attention?
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I'm sure they do know already. Probably amped the frequency timing up so ICS can stay as smooth as it is. It may get adjusted in new update we supposed to get any day now. New update "supposedly" fixes alot of issues.
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Just took a look on system tuner, mine still scales down to 102Mhz. Not all 4 cores on all the time. It does like to stay in the higher range though alot. It all depends on what you doing and what you have running in background also.
mine used to scale down to 102mhz as well...and usually with the 3rd and 4th core offline
Odd that it has changed....
Thanks for all the input...im gonna try and see if manually updating to ICS will make any difference
*edit: I put the update file into the system root but TFP won't prompt/recognize the update...guess it won't make a difference....I'll try backing up then doing a factory reset
I'm seeing something a little different. Mine scales all over the place, except it barely ever hits 1300MHz or 1400MHz, even when set on Performance and gaming/benchmarking. For example, right now, mine only show 3 seconds on 1400MHz and 5 seconds on 1300MHz, out of 13 hours uptime.
I think ASUS and Nvidia have some work left to do in getting the Tegra 3 optimized. I'd really rather mine actually use its fastest stock speeds when in Performance mode.
Overclocking?
demandarin said:
Maybe. I can run overclocked to 1.6Ghz n still be fine no reboots. Like you said, not all chips exactly the same though. Small variances between all chips.
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How did you get to overclock? I rooted mine, but had to return it because of problems. However, I couldn't overclock it either.
What's yur secret?
Update: Did a factory reset and all 4 cores are still online 425mhz-1.2 =(
Seems like my i/o speed just got worse and now there's severe lag...
*sigh* - will just wait for unlocked bootloader
SortingBeans said:
How did you get to overclock? I rooted mine, but had to return it because of problems. However, I couldn't overclock it either.
What's yur secret?
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Where you been? Lol we've overclocked for a good while now. Head over into Android developement section of prime. Then check out the "Vipercontrol" thread. Very easy to install n setup.
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wynand32 said:
I'm seeing something a little different. Mine scales all over the place, except it barely ever hits 1300MHz or 1400MHz, even when set on Performance and gaming/benchmarking. For example, right now, mine only show 3 seconds on 1400MHz and 5 seconds on 1300MHz, out of 13 hours uptime.
I think ASUS and Nvidia have some work left to do in getting the Tegra 3 optimized. I'd really rather mine actually use its fastest stock speeds when in Performance mode.
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That's how its supposed to be. It doesn't run at top speed full time..lol your battery wouldn't lastlong at all if it did that. It only hit tops speeds when needed. Then it scales back when not needed anymore.
As far as your timing showing only a few seconds at top speed, all that means is you didn't do anything the prime needed top speeds for.
If you want to run at full speeds all the time I have your solution. If you rooted get System tuner app. Then open app up. Go to CPU tweaks. There it shows you what all 4 cores are running a piece in real time. The governor should be on default interactive mode. All you do it put governor on performance mode. Then raise your minimum speed up to the Max. Now your prime will be running at top speeds all the time. Now beware though, expect battery to drain alot faster.
I did that trick with my overclock n can have all 4 cores maxed out to 1.6Ghz at once. Battery drains faster than Asus performance mode though. As far as speeds go though, I can put my prime in stock powersavings mode, lowest power settings, n everything still moves fast n fluid. Same with heavy duty games also. There's nothing out on Android yet to really need overclocking power yet. PRIME handles anything you throw at it in stock settings. OVERCLOCKING is just for kicks really andbto make things that much faster. Not really needed. Overclocking will be better once bootloader unlocked and we get undervolting paired with overclocking. That way we can get great battery life and more power. Nothing wrong with overclocking though. I'd say if you not worried about battery life or gonna eventually be near a powersource, go for it. Android developement section of Prime. Its called VioerControl Mod. Very easy to install n setup. Works great. Everyone rooted should give it a whirl if you looking for more power or want to push the envelope.
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That's how its supposed to be. It doesn't run at top speed full time..lol your battery wouldn't lastlong at all if it did that. It only hit tops speeds when needed. Then it scales back when not needed anymore.
My mistake. I'd forgotten that I'd rebooted since running the benchmarks and gaming, so my CPU Spy values didn't reflect them. I just ran some benchmarks and 1400MHz now shows 18 seconds while 1300MHz now shows 2:08 minutes.
I would still like to see that as running at 1400MHz throughout the benchmarks, so I stand by my statement that some additional tuning is required.
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what Firmware specifically are you guys on????
I just downloaded system tuner... I'm running ICS, and my tablet has been rock solid (not a single reboot).
CPU0 is running around 200-400MHz, and the other 3 cores are offline (although core 1 comes online for a bit now and then.) And, my battery life is excellent.... same or better than it was with HC.
To clarify, those of you who are having reboots, are you all seeing all cores on and maxed out all the time?
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what Firmware specifically are you guys on????
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9.4.2.11
Its the latest one available on ICS.
On the contrary...ever since my tfp decided to keep all cores online and minimum 425mhz speed, I haven't had any lockups or reboots.
But my battery life sucks and my benchmark scores are Still horrible.
The disk I/0 speed is horrendous (as stated in the bonnie++ benchmark thread)
Hope for an update soon
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try this for better disk read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455382
jedi5diah said:
try this for better disk read
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1455382
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Has this been confirmed to actually work or be better? Were you the one that made that thread with bonnie benchmarks on disk read speeds or something? How much of a difference are the scores after installing the kernel modules in that thread?
Ok so im rooted and overclocked and was using setcpu then decided i wanna try something different so i tried system tuner! When i checked the cpu it said that one of the processors are off line! Then i pressed the info button and sure enough it says only reading one! So i went through the settings and found force both cores online!
Since then i have no lag and virtually no checkerboarding on the web! Anyway i was just wondering if im the only one who noticed this and maybe it could help those who say that they are still getting lag on they're roms using dag's kernel!
Also i hope devs will notice this thread since i can't post there yet and take advantage of this how ever they can!
Now don't quote me on this but most likely the second core only turns on for processor intensive activities such as high graphics games or multiple programs running at once. I do find it hard to believe that it would be totally disabled. Most likely this is done to conserve battery.
blitzer320 said:
Now don't quote me on this but most likely the second core only turns on for processor intensive activities such as high graphics games or multiple programs running at once. I do find it hard to believe that it would be totally disabled. Most likely this is done to conserve battery.
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Nope i checked that i had 10 apps open two were games (dead space and gta III) One cpu online even on performance! I see 50 views i hope others chime in and let us know what you are thinking
Btw they Did this i heard to the galaxy nexus with the tiomap 1.2 so we'll see what others find
truth77 said:
Nope i checked that i had 10 apps open two were games (dead space and gta III) One cpu online even on performance! I see 50 views i hope others chime in and let us know what you are thinking
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Okay if this really is the case I could also see at&t disabling the second core totally to save battery because of lte but i guess it will take a dev that has more experience with how qualcomm's multicore cpus work in android. report back with differences in battery life like how much faster does it drain now that both cores are forced on.
if you want both cores on click on boot settings and enable force all cpus online. that heats up your phone and eats more battery though+I do not see any benefits doing that.
blitzer320 said:
Okay if this really is the case I could also see at&t disabling the second core totally to save battery because of lte but i guess it will take a dev that has more experience with how qualcomm's multicore cpus work in android. report back with differences in battery life like how much faster does it drain now that both cores are forced on.
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I've had it like this for 4 days on average i will take of the charger at 8am now is 8:30pm and i have 27% but i use my navigation for my Job! By 10:30 or so ill have 15% and recharge!
Settings
1836 max
192 min
Governer
Smartassv2
Both cores pushing
Screen off
192 max
In call
384 max
Tomorrow ill post some pics of battery life usage!
And my phone doesn't get any hotter than normal not even while using my navi! Mostly it just gives no lag and better rendering in the browser/maps/etc!!
I was under the impression that Gingerbread didn't fully utilize multiple cores. Need HC or ICS...
Broken said:
I was under the impression that Gingerbread didn't fully utilize multiple cores. Need HC or ICS...
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Same, but having a better processor helps. Like exynos. I bet once we update to ics if it ever happens, the differences will be only minor between processors, as it runs so nice.
Got system tuner pro, and it shows speed bars on both cpus running? I didn't change a thing?
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Got system tuner pro, and it shows speed bars on both cpus running? I didn't change a thing?
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Really? I switched Roms twice today and had to reset that each time! Cpu.0 online Cpu.1 offline! Like i said am i the only one? Lets hear from more people and let us know of any lag or rendering changes after turning on both cpu's! Battery too, i'll post mine tomorrow.
I thought I'd play and I have CPU0 running and CPU1 running.
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Btw they Did this i heard to the galaxy nexus with the tiomap 1.2 so we'll see what others find
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Not entirely true.. the Galaxy Nexus has a kernel governor that turns one core off when the SCREEN IS OFF, but not when the phone is being used. Multiple kernel creators have since implemented this into their kernels. It is called "hot plugging" and it just turns CPU 1 offline when the screen is off and turns it back on when the screen is on
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Just checked mine, rooted and OC with DaG's 0.1 version (first version). When I looked, it said the second CPU was offline. Changed it to online, we'll see how that impacts battery life.
How much of an advantage is smartassv2 anyway?
I just tried this with system tuner and both cpus were working but wone was of and on and zero was always on.
I am running stock rooted. If you just sit yhere and watch it you will see tje sevond core fires and shuts down alot.
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Really? I switched Roms twice today and had to reset that each time! Cpu.0 online Cpu.1 offline! Like i said am i the only one? Lets hear from more people and let us know of any lag or rendering changes after turning on both cpu's! Battery too, i'll post mine tomorrow.
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Same for me (CPU 0 on, CPU1 off, most times) and I'll say I have noticed no real changes in functionality (speed, rendering, etc) or battery life...
I guess jury is still out or is this a YMMV kind of thing?
I installed system runner and watched the cpus. One was on and the other kicked in periodically
Mine said it was offline as well. Forced it on and am not noticing any difference in speed or temp.
Ill leave it like this to test it further.
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Do you have to be rooted to force both cores on?
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g2theno said:
Do you have to be rooted to force both cores on?
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As far as I know yes you must have super user permission to alter such system activities
I don't know why everyone is in such a rush to force the second core online, it turns on and off when it needs to.
Hi all, I'm hoping for discussion so I chose here instead of simple Q&A.
Like a lot of people here I'm looking ahead to my next phone purchase and I'm trying to see what went wrong with ICS on the Sola. The forum is filled with theads on problems, I won't list them.
Here's the crux of the issue; I read here: http://androidtechguru.blogspot.ie/2012/02/minimum-system-requirements-for-ice.html
that the head Mod of CyanogenMod says that the ICS mimimum spec is 256mb of RAM with a decent GPU, and seperately, other people say that 1ghz dual core, 512 RAM is recommended. The Sola has this precisely. Why is ICS so bad on it? You can Google many, many reviews of even high-end Sony phones on ICS and they still lag like a pensioner going down a motorway. Why?
Is it true that the Sola reserves some RAM related to the extra sensors in the screen? I read more people saying 1GB or RAM is needed for ICS to run smoothly. I noticed that reviewers on Techradar say Jelly Bean runs much better that ICS on the same specs. So, is 1GB of RAM the standard needed for ICS? How about CPU and GPU?
p.s. I should say that a Sony rep on their official forum recommended me to download a task manager to manage the RAM on the Sola...how revealing!
NOTE - Timescape now retired: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/14/rip-timescape-long-live-socialife/
Liked that motorway part
Btw
512mb is sufficient for ics (nexus s)
Its runs ics so smoothly
What sony does is that it adds an extra layer of Timescape launcher
Along wid that loads of bloatware
And regarding using task manager
Its worse one could do make phone unstable
Task manager kills app
Apps then reopen by themselves
Task manager again kills app
And the process continues till the battery is drained
Edit - I have same prblm on my xu sola n xu are twins
Thanks, I'm really trying to learn about how this works.
So, 512MB RAM for ICS, but perhaps more after a manufacturer has added their skin and apps?
Is there any other big problem with the specs for the Sola or U?
Battery drain, has anyone else noticed many of Sony's late 2012 medium-high end phones have 1900mha batteries, but reviews on GSMArena and TechRadar say their actual performance is about 1400/1500? (Check out the Ion, Acro S and others) The opposite can also be true but is rare from what I see - the iPhone5 and Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini have small batteries 1400/1500 but their battery performance is more like 1800-2000. I don't know what Apple and Samsung did to make it that good, but the stats tell me Sony is really messing something up to reduce the battery performance that badly despite 1900. Maybe that is the Timescape UI eating the battery?
I wont say that about Samsung bt for apple
I have used an iphone 3gs and a galaxy note (my dad's)
Note's battery backup is even worse than my xu (probably coz it has always swtiched on 3g n gmail)
I have never seen an android wid good battery (except my brothers htc desire v)
The best battery I got in 3gs
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My phone gives me a descent battery wid brains rom about 20hrs wid 4hrs of wifi, alot of messaging and hardly any calls
What about sola?
Have a look at this: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-4998.php
And the battery performance: http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p2.php (bottom of this page)
I hope you wet yourself when you see this. I did. :laugh: :laugh:
64hrs?? Wtf??
I guess its due to intel chipset
I will collect money to buy this now I even beats my Nokia n86
Novathor also has an image of being power efficient
Bt I guess its the sony **** that pulls it down
drsanket_xperia_u said:
Liked that motorway part
Btw
512mb is sufficient for ics (nexus s)
Its runs ics so smoothly
What sony does is that it adds an extra layer of Timescape launcher
Along wid that loads of bloatware
And regarding using task manager
Its worse one could do make phone unstable
Task manager kills app
Apps then reopen by themselves
Task manager again kills app
And the process continues till the battery is drained
Edit - I have same prblm on my xu sola n xu are twins
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A normal task manager doesn't do this you're talking about an automated task killer.
It is a feature some of task managers out there have.
If you have a task manager with an auto kill feature you can, in most cases, disable it.
A task manager can help save battery juice, as long as you don't use any auto kill "features".
Its really confusing about Sola, I think the headline of this thread summarize everything.. It just failed.
Well sure thing for me now its not a ram issue, I'm using my Sola lately without task manager, and just by limiting background process to 3, it runs with 30-40 free ram even better and more stable than 120 by a task manager, Android has its own ram management unlike Windows mobile for example where free ram is something important.
I'm using "Watchdog" task manager where it kills only apps that eat CPU not Ram.
Slow performance always start after few days of using, like now I'm in third day without restarting device started to face random lags.
And I think JB could maybe run faster than ICS even with same specs, imo best os is the one able to run good on minimum or normal required specs, like Vista - Win7 thing on laptops , vista was older but crap comparing to win7 even on same specs.
And btw even Sony devices with 1G ram like P, has issues with performance.. So it's either a CPU issue, or Sony customization.
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i did notice that the facebook app sucks a lot of battery and resources from sola. On medium usage my phone goes well past a day, that is after i upgraded to .154 and uninstalling the facebook app
Check out the other Motorola phones released just before Christmas, they ALL have batteries above 2000mha! I have checked many reviews and they all seem to perform up to a very high standard. I have even chatted on here with guys who own these phones and they post battery stats lasting 2-3 days!! That's what I'm talking about...Motorola is apparently using a giant advertisment in the US saying 'A smartphone is not so smart if you have to leave it plugged into the wall all the time'.
I didn't notice the Xperia P had 1GB of RAM, and it's still slow??? I really think that's Sony's skin then. I've been reading many phones with 1GB of RAM that are really fast on ICS/JB.
By the way, that Motorola RAZR i...single core 2ghz, the GSMArena tests say that it performs better than most quad-core phones...shocking huh? Intel says the single core saves power.
drsanket_xperia_u said:
Liked that motorway part
Btw
512mb is sufficient for ics (nexus s)
Its runs ics so smoothly
What sony does is that it adds an extra layer of Timescape launcher
Along wid that loads of bloatware
And regarding using task manager
Its worse one could do make phone unstable
Task manager kills app
Apps then reopen by themselves
Task manager again kills app
And the process continues till the battery is drained
Edit - I have same prblm on my xu sola n xu are twins
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Well i own a xu and i cant agree with you, ics here works fine and i have lots of apps installed too, ram usage is high but system is smooth overall and i havent had a single crash or reboot yet (been almost 3 weeks with ics).Cant be happier with my phone.
Edit: Btw it is not rooted and its bootloader locked, runing ics stock.
Even my very low end LG p500 with 512MB ram and a arm v6 600Mhz cpu can run ics just fine, even with old kernel, lack of sources, hacks, etc. I was using oxygen ics at the time.
In my opinion it only require a proper rom building, where most of the companies are failing.
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diegonnc said:
Well i own a xu and i cant agree with you, ics here works fine and i have lots of apps installed too, ram usage is high but system is smooth overall and i havent had a single crash or reboot yet (been almost 3 weeks with ics).Cant be happier with my phone.
Edit: Btw it is not rooted and its bootloader locked, runing ics stock.
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My friend's XU also working great on ICS, it's also stock, not rooted, locked BL..
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I also have LG P500 and with lastest Jelly bean 4.1.2 build from XDA masters works super fast and smooth. Ram free is about 200MB, apps loads instantly. Battery last for 3 days...
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Well i own a xu and i cant agree with you, ics here works fine and i have lots of apps installed too, ram usage is high but system is smooth overall and i havent had a single crash or reboot yet (been almost 3 weeks with ics).Cant be happier with my phone.
Edit: Btw it is not rooted and its bootloader locked, runing ics stock.
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Well guess u folks lucky, coz i had some major issues running ICS on my U. Was practically forced to first root (so as to use some root tools to get stuff done,) then Unlock BL for Custom ROM. (Very Happy with CM9.1 - Was pretty happy just using TheBrainROM also, but I did get a Lag once in a while -Not very common, just once in a while. Using CM fxp 202 atm, and it hasn't lagged even once. O_O )
NOTE:- I did have a LOT of apps (over 100 user apps i believe), stilll I have most of them on CM but, no problems at all. (battery seems a bit worse though i could be wrong as TheBrainROM had some really good battery times, - I would get upto 1 and half days with charge. -Phone never on extended standby.)
Also @Silver If u think Windows 7 was good, check the performance on Windows 8. Heck even games are running smoother and faster. :/
Sony ends Timescape for future phones, converts everything into one option user app called Sociallife: http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/01/14/rip-timescape-long-live-socialife/
Maybe the 2013 phones will see a performance boost?
Well I'm using stock .54 without task managers for 5 days now without restart, device is running great, even with receiving calls while I'm using many apps.
For me using task managers with "Kill All" was the problem.
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Before the Sola, I had the 2011 Xperia Mini (ST15i). It came on 2.3 with upgrade to 4.0. I gave it to my brother when I got the Sola. Tonight, I played with that phone again on ICS. It is *SO* fast and smooth it really puts the Sola phone to shame.
Comparisson of these two phones?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=3947
This is another thing about buying new phones: dual-core does not necessarily mean better performance from what I've seen. A more powerful processor, yes.
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Before the Sola, I had the 2011 Xperia Mini (ST15i). It came on 2.3 with upgrade to 4.0. I gave it to my brother when I got the Sola. Tonight, I played with that phone again on ICS. It is *SO* fast and smooth it really puts the Sola phone to shame.
Comparisson of these two phones?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4408&idPhone2=3947
This is another thing about buying new phones: dual-core does not necessarily mean better performance from what I've seen. A more powerful processor, yes.
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but your sola has so much more pixels to play with, it's normal that the mini is smoother
ilgreco112 said:
but your sola has so much more pixels to play with, it's normal that the mini is smoother
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I was thinking about keeping the Sola's resolution in the next phone, particularly to take it easy on the battery. Would you recommend that to keep the CPU relaxed too? I really don't know a lot about how this works but I'm keen to learn.
By the way, for anyone else interested on Android skins and updates, I spotted more hints on Sony's 2013 phone skins, Sony mentions it will be 'very light and easily updated':
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/sony-xperia-z-1119637/review
Hello, this is my first post in the Samsung section, i just sold my xperia sp, because it gave me a lot of head ache, always freezing and lagging, scrolling is laggy too, not always, but 70% of the time, specially when multitasking, and what i mean by multitasking is just every day usage stuff,
switching between messenger and facebook is really pain in the ass, very slow and laggy, scrolling on Facebook is very laggy most of the time and i have to re-install the app every few days to prevent it from being laggy again
when i first enable wifi or mobile date, the phone will freeze for 5 seconds, because it couldn't handle all the received notifications at the same time and i have to wait at least 15 seconds for the phone to settle
apps force closing on me, home icons disappearing, and sometimes i get a blank empty app drawer ... and many other horrible things this phone did to torture me
so my question is, will i face the same fate if i get a galaxy s3 ? i am mainly interested in the lte variant with 2gb of ram !! because i already know that the international variant is as slow as my sp , perhaps a little better .
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I think you should go for a newer device, even the lte variant is almost 3 years old.Check the htc one or LG g2, never ever ever Samsung again, but this is my opinion.
gabyif said:
I think you should go for a newer device, even the lte variant is almost 3 years old.Check the htc one or LG g2, never ever ever Samsung again, but this is my opinion.
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thanks, actually i am hesitating to buy i9305 from a friend , but i am afraid it is very laggy like the 9300
what i want to know, how is performance for the 9305
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thanks, actually i am hesitating to buy i9305 from a friend , but i am afraid it is very laggy like the 9300
what i want to know, how is performance for the 9305
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Xperia sp is not a bad phone, it has 1.7ghz dual core krait by qualcomm. I'm wondering for a user who can make a thread on xda, why can't you handle your lag problem? Maybe with installing an aosp rom, or add some tweaks, or etc
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Xperia sp is not a bad phone, it has 1.7ghz dual core krait by qualcomm. I'm wondering for a user who can make a thread on xda, why can't you handle your lag problem? Maybe with installing an aosp rom, or add some tweaks, or etc
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you will not understand what i mean only after you use one , xperia sp is the slowest phone ever made, it's kernel and software are not optimized at all, the phone on paper is very nice, but in real life, it's a nightmare to use.
it tends to freeze and lag on the slightest tasks, like getting notifications and message from facebook, scrolling in messenger and facebook gets very very sluggish because of very bad software and very bad ram management, almost every time you use youtube , or facebook, when you press the home button, the home icons disappear for few seconds, also, in the morning, or after few hours with data/wifi off, when you turn one of them on, the phone will freeze for 10 seconds, and keep acting slow for other 10 seconds, bcuz it couldn'tt handle one messagee and two facebook or update norification..
the only thing that works nice on this phone is video games( adreno 320+720p) but it's useless most of the time in heavy games, asphalt 8 and modern combat5, rr3 always start to lag then crash to home beceause ram gets very low ( bad ram management ?)
tried all official available roms, trie all available custum roms, the phone still slow, but sightley better with lilttle more free ram
the only occasion where the phone is smooth is when wifi/data off, n o background apps, and exploring the menu , also after factory reset, but gets bogged down as soon as you install few social apps that always like to stay in background...
i hope you don't get xperia sp
i tried all tweaks, they don't help much..
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you will not understand what i mean only after you use one , xperia sp is the slowest phone ever made, it's kernel and software are not optimized at all, the phone on paper is very nice, but in real life, it's a nightmare to use.
it tends to freeze and lag on the slightest tasks, like getting notifications and message from facebook, scrolling in messenger and facebook gets very very sluggish because of very bad software and very bad ram management, almost every time you use youtube , or facebook, when you press the home button, the home icons disappear for few seconds, also, in the morning, or after few hours with data/wifi off, when you turn one of them on, the phone will freeze for 10 seconds, and keep acting slow for other 10 seconds, bcuz it couldn'tt handle one messagee and two facebook or update norification..
the only thing that works nice on this phone is video games( adreno 320+720p) but it's useless most of the time in heavy games, asphalt 8 and modern combat5, rr3 always start to lag then crash to home beceause ram gets very low ( bad ram management ?)
tried all official available roms, trie all available custum roms, the phone still slow, but sightley better with lilttle more free ram
the only occasion where the phone is smooth is when wifi/data off, n o background apps, and exploring the menu , also after factory reset, but gets bogged down as soon as you install few social apps that always like to stay in background...
i hope you don't get xperia sp
i tried all tweaks, they don't help much..
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Wew i don't know if it was that bad. I've tried Xperia L and i'm pretty satisfied with it's performance, but unfortunately it has a very bad screen quality. You can't use 2 fingers at the same time on it, nice phone but destroyed by ****ty screen LOL
Btw, how if xsp was compared to xl? I only can imagine xsp's performance with that way
i tried xperia s, sp, ion, and all of lag very bad after few weeks from a fresh install , even after fresh install, you can see it freeze when installing apps specially, or receiving notifications. all are the same ****. only sony phone i used that doesn't lag is xperia z1
no matter what it won't bog down, but it has ghost screen that sony won't fix, replaced the phone 3 times, and always i end up with the same ghost typing my screen when the phone heats up, so i sold it yesterday. now i think it's not worth paying much money for expensive phone, samsung s3 has nice screen, i am interrested in the i9305, my brother had the 9300 it was laggy too
so if you have 9305,, i ask if it lag or no, very simple question
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Wew i don't know if it was that bad. I've tried Xperia L and i'm pretty satisfied with it's performance, but unfortunately it has a very bad screen quality. You can't use 2 fingers at the same time on it, nice phone but destroyed by ****ty screen LOL
Btw, how if xsp was compared to xl? I only can imagine xsp's performance with that way
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i tried xperia s, sp, ion, and all of lag very bad after few weeks from a fresh install , even after fresh install, you can see it freeze when installing apps specially, or receiving notifications. all are the same ****. only sony phone i used that doesn't lag is xperia z1
no matter what it won't bog down, but it has ghost screen that sony won't fix, replaced the phone 3 times, and always i end up with the same ghost typing my screen when the phone heats up, so i sold it yesterday. now i think it's not worth paying much money for expensive phone, samsung s3 has nice screen, i am interrested in the i9305, my brother had the 9300 it was laggy too
so if you have 9305,, i ask if it lag or no, very simple question
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Ive owned both, and I have to say the lte variant is a cracking phone! Best hardware in its time. Vs the moto g 2014 which can be picked up for around the same priced (although s3 lte will be used or refurbished to be as cheap) its great. The extra ram is the key here, thats why the sp (which I also have owned) sucks hard, as does the standard s3 on stock, although it was pretty good on cm11