I just moved from an iPhone 4 to SGS2 yesterday and absolutely love it. The one thing that's been bothering me is how the screen timeout and lock screen work. On the iPhone, these are two different values. My screen turns off after one minute but doesn't lock until 10. That's the longest allowed per Exchange policy. But on the SGS2, they are the same. So I have to choose between a quick lock to save battery and keep entering my code or choose 10 minutes and waste battery.
I couldn't find any tools that can fix this for me.
This is a long debated issue and to my knowledge, a common problem in Android (I think that Google even changed the API in 2.2 to disable tinkering with this setting).
Still, on my previous Android running on HTC HD2, there was a way...
If someone has a solution, it would be great.
dmunjal said:
I just moved from an iPhone 4 to SGS2 yesterday and absolutely love it. The one thing that's been bothering me is how the screen timeout and lock screen work. On the iPhone, these are two different values. My screen turns off after one minute but doesn't lock until 10. That's the longest allowed per Exchange policy. But on the SGS2, they are the same. So I have to choose between a quick lock to save battery and keep entering my code or choose 10 minutes and waste battery.
I couldn't find any tools that can fix this for me.
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Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13413332&postcount=1533
I dont know anything about the exchange and switching from iphone i found this battery vs lock screen very annoying.
What i do (unless someone has better suggestion that doesnt involve in rooting) , is that i install this app called "no lock".. so i set it as no lock when i am at home which means i only need to press the home button instead of entering pw. The downside is when i go out, i need to remember to lock it!
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raezza said:
Try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13413332&postcount=1533
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This looks like it requires rooting. I solved the problem by using Touchdown so now I have separate timers again.
dmunjal said:
This looks like it requires rooting. I solved the problem by using Touchdown so now I have separate timers again.
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has anyone tried this?
Did anyone else try this? Wondering if it is just a stetement to get me to buy it? Can we see a screenshot of the setting?
I have exchange policies through company email, which are quite strict. I am happy with that. Only problem I have now, is that I have to put in the PIN to unlock every time my screen wakes up. Formerly in WM6.5 (HD2) I could unlock only with swipe in the first 30minutes, and after 30minutes of inactivity, I had to provide the pin.
Can I do this now as well ? Is there a difference on the S II between unlock screen and PIN unlock ? In the settings I cannot find this option; are there solutions for that (other lockscreen apps e.g.) who do accept that ?
Hi,
I would suggest you download the manual for the phone.
in the mean time:-
Go to settings/location and security/change screen lock
there you can disable screen lock, set a pattern for unlock, set a pin or password.
Then go to settings/display/screen time out and change the time it takes to lock
Hope this helps
Txs, I see now that also exchange policy has greyed out the pattern option. So I cannot disable the pin unlock and cannot put in pattern ... Unfortunately so ...
oh coroparate phones eh?
MattRob said:
Txs, I see now that also exchange policy has greyed out the pattern option. So I cannot disable the pin unlock and cannot put in pattern ... Unfortunately so ...
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I use touchdown for exchange app, and the pin is needed only for the app not the phone.
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MattRob said:
I have exchange policies through company email, which are quite strict. I am happy with that. Only problem I have now, is that I have to put in the PIN to unlock every time my screen wakes up. Formerly in WM6.5 (HD2) I could unlock only with swipe in the first 30minutes, and after 30minutes of inactivity, I had to provide the pin.
Can I do this now as well ? Is there a difference on the S II between unlock screen and PIN unlock ? In the settings I cannot find this option; are there solutions for that (other lockscreen apps e.g.) who do accept that ?
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This is what I am using on my Captivate to overcome the same issue, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=848564, I know we are not on the same phone but I am pretty sure the "fix" can be done on the email.apk for your phone.
Basically you need to tell the native email app to tell Exchange that it is using a PIN when in actuality it is not. If it is too complicated for you to do yourself, Fenny is pretty cool about doing it for you, just send him a copy of the email.apk you are using.
Looks like there is already an email.apk for you found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13413332&postcount=1533
If i am using the original ROM on Galaxy S2 for United Kingdom, would this email.apk still work or do i need an updated file ? What are the chances of administrator finding it out ?
Hi All,
I was wondering if someone could confirm what apps you can run while the phone is still password locked. someone confirmed it is possible to operate the camera. But I am hoping it is also possible to at least do some forms of quick note taking, possibly audio notes as well. Can these be added and operated from lock screen at all (create only, password to access existing etc.) ?
Work enforces a password lock policy and I find that often, I find the delay in having to unlock etc. just too inconvenient...
Thanks,
Zuber
Zuber said:
Hi All,
I was wondering if someone could confirm what apps you can run while the phone is still password locked. someone confirmed it is possible to operate the camera. But I am hoping it is also possible to at least do some forms of quick note taking, possibly audio notes as well. Can these be added and operated from lock screen at all (create only, password to access existing etc.) ?
Work enforces a password lock policy and I find that often, I find the delay in having to unlock etc. just too inconvenient...
Thanks,
Zuber
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I can't be the only one that locks the phone with a password or pattern surely ?
Coming from Samsung here, so this feature is very new for me.
Does the knock to wake feature work if you're set on pattern lock? Or does it only work when you have knock code set as your security?
Reason I ask is because I initially had the knock code set as security, then changed to pattern after I set Android Pay. BUT, knock to wake has been working for me the past two days (even with the pattern lock ON)...until 2 hours ago.
Now the only way I can knock wake the device (or even access the second screen) is either to set the security as Knock Code, or press the power button.
Is this behavior normal? I found it weird that the second screen is untouchable with the pattern lock ON.
Knock On will work everytime regardless of your lock screen setting (double tap on the center of the screen to wake device up into lock screen).
Knock Code, however, need to be set to unlock your device, the pattern is of your choice.
Android Pay doesn't accept a knock code as a security measure. I was using it, then was forced to switch to pin after setting up Pay.
Ryu Kenshin said:
Knock On will work everytime regardless of your lock screen setting (double tap on the center of the screen to wake device up into lock screen).
Knock Code, however, need to be set to unlock your device, the pattern is of your choice.
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ok so correct me if I'm wrong: regardless of your security settings, KNOCK ON will work to wake the device up. Yes?
In that case, something has gone wrong with mine as I can only do knock on when Knock Code is set. Even worse, the second screen shortcuts are only accessible in that mode as well.
I think I just encountered a similar if not the same problem but I'm not sure if it's an app or if it coincides with something I accidentally tapped in the hidden menu last night.
I had been using pattern unlock since I got the phone on friday and double tap to wake the screen was working fine along side fingerprint unlock, now double tapping doesn't work and the second screen does not respond when locked.
EDIT: I just tried knock pattern and it allowed me to wake the screen but the moment I switched back to pattern it stopped responding to screen wake tapping.
mastarpete said:
I think I just encountered a similar if not the same problem but I'm not sure if it's an app or if it coincides with something I accidentally tapped in the hidden menu last night.
I had been using pattern unlock since I got the phone on friday and double tap to wake the screen was working fine along side fingerprint unlock, now double tapping doesn't work and the second screen does not respond when locked.
EDIT: I just tried knock pattern and it allowed me to wake the screen but the moment I switched back to pattern it stopped responding to screen wake tapping.
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sorry to hear about that, seems like you have exactly what I had. Knock on just stopped working out of nowhere.
Good news is, I did a factory reset and it fixed the issue. Albeit, without access to Titanium Backup, it's quite a chore right now to redo all of my setups. Trying LG Backup now just in case.
Give factory reset a try and hopefully it'll solve your issue as well.
baymon said:
sorry to hear about that, seems like you have exactly what I had. Knock on just stopped working out of nowhere.
Good news is, I did a factory reset and it fixed the issue. Albeit, without access to Titanium Backup, it's quite a chore right now to redo all of my setups. Trying LG Backup now just in case.
Give factory reset a try and hopefully it'll solve your issue as well.
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Yeah I was kind of afraid I'd have to reset already, barely a week in, lol!
Thanks for letting me know a reset worked, hopefully it doesn't happen again.
I think @knifedroid had the answer. AndroidPay doesn't allow you to use knock. I have the same issue as well...well i guess it's not an issue...it's a feature.
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KwestJones said:
I think @knifedroid had the answer. AndroidPay doesn't allow you to use knock. I have the same issue as well...well i guess it's not an issue...it's a feature.
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Knock Code is a security method, Knock On is a feature that LG implemented at kernel level to wake up/turn off the device. The issue that we've been having is with the Knock On not functioning anymore.
Long story short the reset restored Knock On (wake).
Long version, I gave the LG Bridge software a shot to do a backup to the PC.
It let me backup just about everything including apps and data, including Humblebundle apps and stock homescreen layouts, so it's probably as close to tatanium as you ca get.
I Haven't gone through updates yet but so far Knock On is still working after a restore, I'll edit if that changes. *crossing fingers*
oh man I'm glad i came to peek this section for this, as i feel like i tapped something wrong in the hidden menu as well. i might wait a little bit to do a reset and see if someone finds out a way to keep the KnockON thing running when screen is off.
joachim123 said:
oh man I'm glad i came to peek this section for this, as i feel like i tapped something wrong in the hidden menu as well. i might wait a little bit to do a reset and see if someone finds out a way to keep the KnockON thing running when screen is off.
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hey someone on another thread said that deleting all the fingerprints solved his Knock ON issues. Can you try this out?
baymon said:
hey someone on another thread said that deleting all the fingerprints solved his Knock ON issues. Can you try this out?
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Just tried it, no luck. Both knock on and off are still not working.
The issue started for me last night after going to the hidden menu and enabling Fast Dormancy. Disabling it again doesn't help. I guess just avoid the hidden menu is the takeaway here.
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pakraider said:
Just tried it, no luck. Both knock on and off are still not working.
The issue started for me last night after going to the hidden menu and enabling Fast Dormancy. Disabling it again doesn't help. I guess just avoid the hidden menu is the takeaway here.
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ok, sorry bud. Hard reset did the trick for me, but it'll be good to know what caused this and what can we do to solve it.
Now that you mentioned it, I think my issue started after I was playing around with hidden menu as well. Although I didn't recall changing anything.
baymon said:
ok, sorry bud. Hard reset did the trick for me, but it'll be good to know what caused this and what can we do to solve it.
Now that you mentioned it, I think my issue started after I was playing around with hidden menu as well. Although I didn't recall changing anything.
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Yeah, tbh it sounds like a software bug by LG. Just going to the hidden menu seems enough to break the knock on/off. Makes you wonder what else might be getting messed up too that we haven't noticed.
p.s. this thread is why XDA is awesome.. everyone thinking 'omg what happened?' only to see others in exactly the same boat.
This makes sense. I think my knock on stopped working after using the hidden menu to look at the dB on the LTE signal.
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So in this case of resetting, would I be able to just grab the system img and flash it without actually doing a hard reset? I don't want to have to set up everything, again.(i had forgotten it was going to reset when I unlocked the BL)
Just confirmed it. Knock on breaks when you try to enter the ims settings menu inside the hidden settings menu. It crashes, then knock on stops.
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I am having an issue where it is grayed out and stating something else has an administrator lock. Any idea on what's holding it up?
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MacMitten said:
I am having an issue where it is grayed out and stating something else has an administrator lock. Any idea on what's holding it up?
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That looks like you are in the android pay security options. If so, android doesn't think that knock is secure enough for androidpay. Don't think there is anything we can do about it yet.
If you decide to use android pay you cannot use KnockOn pattern unlock to open your phone.
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Is this possible. I've tried everything the fingerprint scanner doesn't work unless you have a secure lock screen. I have used knock code since I got the V10 along with fingerprint so I can use the fingerprint, but I don't want to have to put a knock code in if my fingerprint doesn't work or its on the table...
Anyone got a workaround? I'm still searching.
Matt
Does no one know how I can do this?
Matt
I'd like to know the same thing. I know LastPass just added fingerprint support (for marshmallow) and I'd love to be able to use my fingerprint to unlock that (when marshmallow comes) without having to have a secure lockscreen. I don't really care if someone can get into my phone. I just don't want to have to type in my password to use lastpass
I've searched around everywhere for this option .... I just don't think it exists.
So just don't use any lock to get into the phone now. I've got the stuff I want secure in locked files/apps section. Makes using and accessing the main functions of the phone much more accessible. Only doing this for a few days now as a test, but I think it'll be the way I keep it.
My Two Lock Screens Worth
I've addressed the issue another way. I added several more "trusted" places, devices, and connections as well as "trust while moving" which means as long as the phone senses it's on me, I'm at home, connected to Bluetooth devices I know, and more, there's no secure lock but fingerprint still unlocks it. Perfect. Still testing it
Matt