This is probably old news but I just saw this .
http://www.dailymobile.net/2013/01/02/nokia-closing-open-connection-to-navifirm/
Is this a bad thing or a good thing?
definitely a bad thing.
For me, this was a selling feature of Nokia phones.
Yeah very disappointing outcome. Loved to know that I could flash different firmwares to the phone.
Looks like I might have to put the CV-HK firmware back on that matches my Product code just in case I am unable to receive updates on the unbranded Australian ROM in the future. If I cant receive OTA's with a different Product code firmware, ill be screwed forever.
Simmo3D said:
Yeah very disappointing outcome. Loved to know that I could flash different firmwares to the phone.
Looks like I might have to put the CV-HK firmware back on that matches my Product code just in case I am unable to receive updates on the unbranded Australian ROM in the future. If I cant receive OTA's with a different Product code firmware, ill be screwed forever.
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Or, you could download BOTH Firmwares and bounce back and forth whenever you felt like it.
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I've got an AT&T branded Atrix, however I am actually in Australia and Telstra is my network provider. Is it possible to flash the new Telstra SBF onto my Atrix? If not, why not? If yes, what could I expect to be different?
I would like to know the answer to this too as I am on vodafone and this would uncap my data speeds. What I would like to point out though is that I assume you know as well as I do how delayed most Australian software updates are compared to the US. If you want the latest and greatest software updates and features, I'd stick with AT&T SBF.. which is what I've decided to do myself.
-DarkRyoushii
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030644&page=2
AT&T sbf on Bell atrix bricks it apparently...
Good to know, but I think we're looking at going the other direction by putting the new Telstra SBF onto the AT&T branded Atrix. I feel more comfortable running my own provider's software on my phone. I guess it will take a brave soul to try it. I'd give it a go if someone could guarantee I'd be able to flash back to the stock AT&T SBF if it all goes wrong. I don't really understand why it wouldn't work if the underlying hardware is essentially the same.
Interesting thoughts about the frequency of updates. I've only just moved back to Australia after many years away, so I'm not really sure how good Telstra is at releasing updates.
here's your answer. Second post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042304&page=9
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Good to know, but I think we're looking at going the other direction by putting the new Telstra SBF onto the AT&T branded Atrix. I feel more comfortable running my own provider's software on my phone. I guess it will take a brave soul to try it. I'd give it a go if someone could guarantee I'd be able to flash back to the stock AT&T SBF if it all goes wrong. I don't really understand why it wouldn't work if the underlying hardware is essentially the same.
Interesting thoughts about the frequency of updates. I've only just moved back to Australia after many years away, so I'm not really sure how good Telstra is at releasing updates.
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There pretty good at updates, but I'm also looking for this. The above post shows a guy saying it didnt work for someone else... Might give it a go when I get the HTC Sensation as a back up phone.
I'll elaborate:
I bought one of these back in May from Expansys-USA, and it was the Polish OXA version. I sold it last month and got the AT&T SGS II instead, and now I wish I had not done that. So now I'm looking for another one.
So does anyone know which version you get from retailers, or is it all random? I could buy from Expansys again, but I want to see if there are any better deals out there. But to my knowledge when I got rid of mine, it was the only one to receive the KI3 2.3.5 update at the time, so I'd prefer another OXA version, or at least one that is OEM unbranded.
Whats the difference? Just unbrand/debrand the machine by flashing stock ROM through Odin!
nicholaschum said:
Whats the difference? Just unbrand/debrand the machine by flashing stock ROM through Odin!
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I don't use Odin very often, I like to keep most of my devices as close to stock as possible. But it's all good because I just acquired my old one back lol. No worries!
Anyone know or have a rough guestamate when they will be releasing the 4.3 update or in fact any update? Just i read a while back there was an update due, not official I think but we've had nothing for ages , im getting kinda bored.
I was in the o2 shop is Edinburgh the other day playing with the Galaxy Note 3, saying this is nice and quick and responsive, it had written next to it the samsung mega with no price or info, I'd never heard of so I checked system info and it said Galaxy Note 3, so I thought i'll get some coin together after a week or 2 and get one cos it was gonna be my next new phone anyway, I got home and checked every where online and they aint even released yet, in fact they don't even know the full spec of them, if i'd have know I would of stayed and dug out all the info, DAMN if I was on here more often I would of known.
I do remember it was on 4.2.2 and was really responsive but thats all, shame on me
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Anyone know or have a rough guestamate when they will be releasing the 4.3 update
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No. Trust me, if any one of us knew, everyone would know. This forum would be flooded with info.
I read on google some were that 4.2.2 is defo scrapped for 4.3 and thats not coming out till early 2014. Little after the nexus5 comes out. Nexus should be out nov/dec time.
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andrewwright said:
I read on google some were that 4.2.2 is defo scrapped for 4.3
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Yeah but it's all rumours and 95% of them turn out to not be true. We'll know when we know.
4.2.2 is binned. Networks have chosen to wait for 4.3
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4.2.2 is binned. Networks have chosen to wait for 4.3
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Not all S3's are tied to Networks, so it's not completely their call.
Edit> so what I am saying is even if "networks" are waiting for 4.3, it doesn't mean Samsung aren't releasing 4.2.2 - Many of our S3's get updates directly from sasmung. That's what owning an unbranded handset means. There's a leak of 4.2.2 so they definitely worked on it. They may indeed skip it but they have not officially announced that, ergo it is nothing more than a rumour.
When the big ones make there move the other follow. Orange and o2 run the uk. If they pick not to do something other follow them. As most piggy bk of them.
I9100/I9300
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When the big ones make there move the other follow. Orange and o2 run the uk. If they pick not to do something other follow them. As most piggy bk of them.
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EE and O2 send out their own updates OTA. Unbranded handsets are network independent and get their updates directly from Samsung. Piggy-Back networks do not pass out OTA updates. All Piggy Back networks use unbranded, Samsung managed handsets. They have no choice in what happens.
So if your on giffgaff which is run on o2 you have it from sam and not o2?
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So if your on giffgaff which is run on o2 you have it from sam and not o2?
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Yep thats' right.
When you buy a phone from O2 directly, you get an O2 branded handset which recieves updates from O2.
If you buy a phone from Carphone warehouse on O2, it will be unbranded. Essentially, CPW will give you the exact same phone no matter what network you go with. Giff Gaff do not even supply phones so, chances are if you buy a handset from somewhere ( a shop) it will be unbranded.
On top of this, if you have an Orange phone on O2, it will still get updates from Orange. It doesn't matter what SIM card you have on the phone. It's to do with the software that's on the phone. If I put an O2 SIM in my Three phone, my updates will continue to come from Three.
So what happends if you change software. Were do you get it then? Nice info btw:thumbup:
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So what happends if you change software. Were do you get it then? Nice info btw:thumbup:
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Well I have over simplified it. It is more to do with the CSC set within the phone, but it is all part of the software none-the-less.
If you have an O2 branded phone (O2 CSC) and flash Three UK ROM (Official) you will then get your updates from Three. If you Flash UK Unbranded official (BTU CSC) you would get updates from Samsung.
However, if you are in the UK and flash an Indian official ROM (with Indian CSC) you are unlikely to get updates in the UK. KIES would recognise your CSC does not match your geographical area too, so it would refuse you updates. So As long as you Have an official ROM (CSC) from your country, you will get updates from that provided / Samsung.
Thank for that info mate. I learn some thing new every day. You full of good info. :thumbup: thanks to what you have put about the mg4 imei problem iv flashed neat 4.2.2 and yes I lost my imei but only for a few mins.
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andrewwright said:
Thank for that info mate. I learn some thing new every day. You full of good info. :thumbup: thanks to what you have put about the mg4 imei problem iv flashed neat 4.2.2 and yes I lost my imei but only for a few mins.
I9100/I9300
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Now it's "enjoy" time!
Can't find any answers by searching the threads (apologies if I've missed something obvious!)
I'm thinking of buying an EE UK LG G5. I'm already with EE but I hate slow updates, and in my experience EE firmware tends to get updates really slowly in the U.K.
I have flashed Samsungs in the past and it's a very easy process - no need to unlock bootloaders or anything, just flash in ODIN and there's your stock UK Samsung.
Is it as straightforward with a G5? I don't want to do any modding, rooting or anything like that - I just want to effectively turn the device into a SIM free model with no carrier apps or customisations whilst retaining warranty and the ability to do OTA updates in future. Can I simply flash generic UK firmware onto the G5 to replace EE's? I don't even care about SIM unlocking since I'm already with EE.
I don't mind if it's not possible by the way, I just won't buy it if so, just thought I'd put the question to this community as if anyone has the answer you do!
Thanks again.
leoni1980 said:
Can't find any answers by searching the threads (apologies if I've missed something obvious!)
I'm thinking of buying an EE UK LG G5. I'm already with EE but I hate slow updates, and in my experience EE firmware tends to get updates really slowly in the U.K.
I have flashed Samsungs in the past and it's a very easy process - no need to unlock bootloaders or anything, just flash in ODIN and there's your stock UK Samsung.
Is it as straightforward with a G5? I don't want to do any modding, rooting or anything like that - I just want to effectively turn the device into a SIM free model with no carrier apps or customisations whilst retaining warranty and the ability to do OTA updates in future. Can I simply flash generic UK firmware onto the G5 to replace EE's? I don't even care about SIM unlocking since I'm already with EE.
I don't mind if it's not possible by the way, I just won't buy it if so, just thought I'd put the question to this community as if anyone has the answer you do!
Thanks again.
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Just get it through Carphone Warehouse and it'll come without Carrier rubbish. I bought mine from O2 directly and there's no Carrier apps or what i'd call bloat at all. LG tend to update much much quicker than Samsung anyway, but stock ROM's can be flashed.
leoni1980 said:
Can't find any answers by searching the threads (apologies if I've missed something obvious!)
I'm thinking of buying an EE UK LG G5. I'm already with EE but I hate slow updates, and in my experience EE firmware tends to get updates really slowly in the U.K.
I have flashed Samsungs in the past and it's a very easy process - no need to unlock bootloaders or anything, just flash in ODIN and there's your stock UK Samsung.
Is it as straightforward with a G5? I don't want to do any modding, rooting or anything like that - I just want to effectively turn the device into a SIM free model with no carrier apps or customisations whilst retaining warranty and the ability to do OTA updates in future. Can I simply flash generic UK firmware onto the G5 to replace EE's? I don't even care about SIM unlocking since I'm already with EE.
I don't mind if it's not possible by the way, I just won't buy it if so, just thought I'd put the question to this community as if anyone has the answer you do!
Thanks again.
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I'm on Virgin UK and flashed Orange's firmware which worked fine without issue (I did this as I had a sort of temp brick of sorts.)
Might be worth having a look at this thread if you haven't already http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/lg-g5-to-stock-t3369959
Will_Xda said:
I'm on Virgin UK and flashed Orange's firmware which worked fine without issue (I did this as I had a sort of temp brick of sorts.)
Might be worth having a look at this thread if you haven't already http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/lg-g5-to-stock-t3369959
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I didn't see this reply, thanks! Assume you're not BL unlocked/rooted and were just running stock Virgin Mobile firmware?
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I didn't see this reply, thanks! Assume you're not BL unlocked/rooted and were just running stock Virgin Mobile firmware?
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At the time yes, but It wouldn't make much difference as It works regardless of bootloader status
I've got an unlocked S23 Ultra, S918U1, currently running on Google Fi. Will probably be switching to US Mobile's Verizon plan soon tho. I'm wondering what my best options are for keeping the device updated. It's still on May but maybe too early to worry about the June update? But I can get a little impatient sometimes and I'm not sure how updates tend to go with MNVOs.
So I guess I'm wondering about: Smart Switch, changing CSC, and Odin. Any tips for keeping this device promptly updated?
Use Odin. Changing CSC shouldn't matter too much although it might cause problems if you don't wipe data. It's been a while since I've dealt with Samsung.
As far as getting ahold of the firmware in the first place I believe Frija is your best option, although I don't know whether Samsung makes their updates publicly available at the same time they push OTAs.
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Use Odin. Changing CSC shouldn't matter too much although it might cause problems if you don't wipe data. It's been a while since I've dealt with Samsung.
As far as getting ahold of the firmware in the first place I believe Frija is your best option, although I don't know whether Samsung makes their updates publicly available at the same time they push OTAs.
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Thank you for the response. I will check out Frija, also the Sam Mobile app seems to list firmwares, but no June release for U1 yet. I guess I might end up just flashing firmwares with Odin. Thanks again!
YrrchSebor said:
Thank you for the response. I will check out Frija, also the Sam Mobile app seems to list firmwares, but no June release for U1 yet. I guess I might end up just flashing firmwares with Odin. Thanks again!
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Just make sure that you pay attention to which CSC file you use. The HOME_CSC.tar is for an update preserving user data. The CSC.tar will wipe data.
V0latyle said:
Just make sure that you pay attention to which CSC file you use. The HOME_CSC.tar is for an update preserving user data. The CSC.tar will wipe data.
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Ah right, I remember this, thanks so much for the reminder!
YrrchSebor said:
I've got an unlocked S23 Ultra, S918U1, currently running on Google Fi. Will probably be switching to US Mobile's Verizon plan soon tho. I'm wondering what my best options are for keeping the device updated. It's still on May but maybe too early to worry about the June update? But I can get a little impatient sometimes and I'm not sure how updates tend to go with MNVOs.
So I guess I'm wondering about: Smart Switch, changing CSC, and Odin. Any tips for keeping this device promptly updated?
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If you bought it as an unlocked phone...and it isn't network (carrier) branded...you'll get the updates more quickly anyway.
The U1 version usually gets the updates about two weeks after Korea does...and only one week after we in Europe do.
FYI....if you device is unbranded...it doesn't matter what carrier your SIM is. The updates are independent of the carrier.
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If you bought it as an unlocked phone...and it isn't network (carrier) branded...you'll get the updates more quickly anyway.
The U1 version usually gets the updates about two weeks after Korea does...and only one week after we in Europe do.
FYI....if you device is unbranded...it doesn't matter what carrier your SIM is. The updates are independent of the carrier.
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Oh, thanks for the information, I do have an unbranded US U1 model, so maybe I'll be able to just wait for the updates to come OTA. That would be the easiest of course. And thanks for the info about the timeline, I see that the June updates for many models seem to be up on Sam Mobile as of today, so hopefully another week or two for me
pjaysnowden said:
If you bought it as an unlocked phone...and it isn't network (carrier) branded...you'll get the updates more quickly anyway.
The U1 version usually gets the updates about two weeks after Korea does...and only one week after we in Europe do.
FYI....if you device is unbranded...it doesn't matter what carrier your SIM is. The updates are independent of the carrier.
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Yep, and the U/U1 firmware is interchangeable, but if you don't want carrier bloat, go with U1
YrrchSebor said:
Oh, thanks for the information, I do have an unbranded US U1 model, so maybe I'll be able to just wait for the updates to come OTA. That would be the easiest of course. And thanks for the info about the timeline, I see that the June updates for many models seem to be up on Sam Mobile as of today, so hopefully another week or two for me
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As I understand..is was rolled out a few days ago...and it is slowly released across the range. For example...it took a few days for me to get it here in Europe after it was officially released. My guess is...a few more days and you'll be golden.
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Yep, and the U/U1 firmware is interchangeable, but if you don't want carrier bloat, go with U1
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Yep, it's all U1 for me! I believe it even still comes with native caller ID
V0latyle said:
Yep, and the U/U1 firmware is interchangeable, but if you don't want carrier bloat, go with U1
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He is already on U1...so is already bloat free. He can't root it...so he may as well just wait for the update. My guess is....3 to 4 more days.