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I don't get it. Why does HTC make gingerbread available for some phones so quick and others (THUNDERBOLT) have to wait so dang long to get the official release? Are each of their phones that different and that complex that making a stable and bugfree version takes that much effort? It hurts to know HTC, Google, and Verizon can't get their act together faster. I still love all three companies though...yes i actually love google and verizon.
Anybody else have a rant to want to put down concerning the thunderbolt or gingerbread?
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I don't get it. Why does HTC make gingerbread available for some phones so quick and others (THUNDERBOLT) have to wait so dang long to get the official release? Are each of their phones that different and that complex that making a stable and bugfree version takes that much effort? It hurts to know HTC, Google, and Verizon can't get their act together faster. I still love all three companies though...yes i actually love google and verizon.
Anybody else have a rant to want to put down concerning the thunderbolt or gingerbread?
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Yes...Thunderbolt in particular seems to be a beast of a different color.
Although, I'm positive that isn't the entire reason they roll out slowly. OTAs that roll out must be majorly checked from every angle since one minor problem could force them to replace thousands of devices for free (since they are forced) not to mention the damage to their reputation, support, etc. Add on the stipulations carriers have and their customizations and time really adds up.
Well usually verizon takes forever to approved builds to.make sire they don't have bugs, EVO got a high update and they have to release another shortly after and the cost money, the dinc 2 got theirs cause it got an European brother and it had more time to be refine , and the thunderbolt who knows I just one sense 2.1 and no buggy update, as long as we get ice cream update in timely manner I'm good or if we get a nexus phone with LTE I'm swicthcing for sure
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I don't get why people complain when they have a stable build now or have the option to root? Why complain about what the others have?
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I don't get why people complain when they have a stable build now or have the option to root? Why complain about what the others have?
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It's human nature. Watch two monkeys, give one a banana, give the other nothing. Watch the second monkey's reaction.
Well, I for one would like to see a good leak or formal release of GB because the current leak sucks. Yeah, some devs have made some great headway in making it usable, but starting from a base that functions properly would bring a very novel thing to the Tbolt.... stability!
ray5780 said:
I don't get it. Why does HTC make gingerbread available for some phones so quick and others (THUNDERBOLT) have to wait so dang long to get the official release? Are each of their phones that different and that complex that making a stable and bugfree version takes that much effort? It hurts to know HTC, Google, and Verizon can't get their act together faster. I still love all three companies though...yes i actually love google and verizon.
Anybody else have a rant to want to put down concerning the thunderbolt or gingerbread?
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Google really has nothing to do with this. They have already put out 2.3. It's now up to HTC to Sense it up and get the build to Verizon, and then up to Verizon to bloat the crap out of it, and then check for bugs.
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It's human nature.
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yep, sure is. BUT!
akanatrix said:
Watch two monkeys, give one a banana, give the other nothing. Watch the second monkey's reaction.
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you used monkeys to make an example of "human nature"
/no flame
/just thought it was funny
/I lol'd
/no evolution argument
obededom said:
yep, sure is. BUT!
you used monkeys to make an example of "human nature"
/no flame
/just thought it was funny
/I lol'd
/no evolution argument
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As you said, no evolution talk. ^_^
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obededom said:
you used monkeys to make an example of "human nature"
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AH, crap, I wasn't the first to notice this!
Loved the irony and malaprop. Plus, everyone is a monkey when they go into the voting booth.
Could the wait for Gingerbread have something to do with the 4G radio?
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Could the wait for Gingerbread have something to do with the 4G radio?
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The complexity of having the 3G and 4G in separate chips might have something to do with it.
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The complexity of having the 3G and 4G in separate chips might have something to do with it.
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I doubt it the EVO 4G got their update already.and got froyo in no time when it came out and it has 2 radios too
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I doubt it the EVO 4G got their update already.and got froyo in no time when it came out and it has 2 radios too
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Can't compare wimax to lte. Wimax is basically just wifi on steroids and uses the same implimentation as normal wifi with a few modifications. LTE however is a whole new protocol that's totally different than anything previously on a verizon phone.
Gingerbread?
Yeah I'm getting pissed that they haven't released 2.3 for the tbolt yet. Also, apparently HTC isn't going to release the new Sense (3.0?) for any of their phones that are already out! wtf?! So i'm considering rooting my phone. ive heard you can get gingerbread and the new sense by doing so, however ive never rooted before. Any chance someone could clue me in if there are solid working versions of 2.3 and the new sense out there? is the rooting worth the risk? should i just wait untill the tbolt officially gets 2.3 to root for the new sense? any insight would be great!
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Yeah I'm getting pissed that they haven't released 2.3 for the tbolt yet. Also, apparently HTC isn't going to release the new Sense (3.0?) for any of their phones that are already out! wtf?! So i'm considering rooting my phone. ive heard you can get gingerbread and the new sense by doing so, however ive never rooted before. Any chance someone could clue me in if there are solid working versions of 2.3 and the new sense out there? is the rooting worth the risk? should i just wait untill the tbolt officially gets 2.3 to root for the new sense? any insight would be great!
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The "risk" is miniscule if you just read and follow directions
use my sticky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168433 to figure out what you need.
Yeah, been wondering that myself?
http://androidjet.com/will-samsung-...ch/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
MIUI just released their own phone running the software and also Sammy just acquired a guy from Cyanogen so it seems unlikely... but cool nonetheless. SGSIII with MIUI would be pretty snappy.
EDIT: Wow, didn't realize both of those^ things were addressed in the article, maybe next time I should read it first.
Tired of hearing about the sgsII, its like the iPhone's ugly brother, and by the time its out, the tech will already be out dated.
Its got a iPhone wanna be interface, a wanna be iphone look and shape, and too much hype too late. Just get an iPhone already and shut up, at least you can be trendy and show off the shiny apple on the back.
And another thing, why do people feel the need to keep posting Samsung news in an Evo3d forum? Sounds like trolling to me. Ok I feel better now.
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Tired of hearing about the sgsII, its like the iPhone's ugly brother, and by the time its out, the tech will already be out dated.
Its got a iPhone wanna be interface, a wanna be iphone look and shape, and too much hype too late. Just get an iPhone already and shut up, at least you can be trendy and show off the shiny apple on the back.
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Quit hating bro its still an android phone if you hate apple so much go cry bout it somewhere else
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samsung is already taking a lot of **** from apple for lookalike issues... purchasing a UI that looks similar to iOS isnt going to help that
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samsung is already taking a lot of **** from apple for lookalike issues... purchasing a UI that looks similar to iOS isnt going to help that
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Indeed. I don't see it happening anytime soon.
LoveisPeace2012 said:
Quit hating bro its still an android phone if you hate apple so much go cry bout it somewhere else
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This is where I go to cry.
MIUI as the default UI? That'd be sweet. I'm a big fan of MIUI but I wish 4G worked on it.
With Samsung throwing it's attention towards Software instead of Hardware now, then they may start pumping out more updates quicker for future devices.
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MIUI as the default UI? That'd be sweet. I'm a big fan of MIUI but I wish 4G worked on it.
With Samsung throwing it's attention towards Software instead of Hardware now, then they may start pumping out more updates quicker for future devices.
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This phone might be the crack to MIUI finally getting 4G to work
And its open sourced so no need to run MIUI if you do not wish to.
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Tired of hearing about the sgsII, its like the iPhone's ugly brother, and by the time its out, the tech will already be out dated.
Its got a iPhone wanna be interface, a wanna be iphone look and shape, and too much hype too late. Just get an iPhone already and shut up, at least you can be trendy and show off the shiny apple on the back.
And another thing, why do people feel the need to keep posting Samsung news in an Evo3d forum? Sounds like trolling to me. Ok I feel better now.
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Will do, thanks
HTC Dialer sucks. It will be highly desirable to replace it with aosp ones. There is currently no one working on it. I am surprise.
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HTC Dialer sucks. It will be highly desirable to replace it with aosp ones. There is currently no one working on it. I am surprise.
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Interesting. Glad it surprises you. Why does everyone assume that developing is so easy? I bet I can get you the standard dialer pretty quickly. Use craigslist and post the following:
WANT TO TRADE:
HTC AMAZE 4G for a cheap non-HTC device.
Seriously. I don't understand why people spend so much for a device to want to go for AOSP stuff.
Besides... check the Market. You might find dialer alternatives. Worth a shot.
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Interesting. Glad it surprises you. Why does everyone assume that developing is so easy? I bet I can get you the standard dialer pretty quickly. Use craigslist and post the following:
WANT TO TRADE:
HTC AMAZE 4G for a cheap non-HTC device.
Seriously. I don't understand why people spend so much for a device to want to go for AOSP stuff.
Besides... check the Market. You might find dialer alternatives. Worth a shot.
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Folks, quit peeing in Binarys cereal... dammit
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Folks, quit peeing in Binarys cereal... dammit
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Oatmeal. I don't eat cereal. I eat oatmeal.
Quite a few decent dialers out there. There are even a few on XDA....
This one is free on the market and has a presence on XDA with themes as well. It's rated highly.
https://market.android.com/details?id=kz.mek.DialerOne&hl=en
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Quite a few decent dialers out there. There are even a few on XDA....
This one is free on the market and has a presence on XDA with themes as well. It's rated highly.
https://market.android.com/details?id=kz.mek.DialerOne&hl=en
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I like this one better, I tried dialer one, now I use exDialer, its awesome AND themable.
https://market.android.com/details?...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tb2Rvb2h1dC5kaWFsZXIiXQ..
currently I have the ICS theme, I'm just loving it
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I like this one better, I tried dialer one, now I use exDialer, its awesome AND themable.
https://market.android.com/details?...251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5tb2Rvb2h1dC5kaWFsZXIiXQ..
currently I have the ICS theme, I'm just loving it
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I'm not a critic of the original dialer, nor am I a fan.. but the ics theme looked good enough I am giving it a try, thanks for pointing it out, nice find It IS good that it has a contacts replacement, I DO HATE the htc contacts!
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I'm not a critic of the original dialer, nor am I a fan.. but the ics theme looked good enough I am giving it a try, thanks for pointing it out, nice find It IS good that it has a contacts replacement, I DO HATE the htc contacts!
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yea with the stock sense dialer its was hard to get to my faves, but this one makes it much easier combining the goodness of snese ui dialer with the goodness of AOSP dialer, and ICS theme looks great.
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Interesting. Glad it surprises you. Why does everyone assume that developing is so easy? I bet I can get you the standard dialer pretty quickly. Use craigslist and post the following:
WANT TO TRADE:
HTC AMAZE 4G for a cheap non-HTC device.
Seriously. I don't understand why people spend so much for a device to want to go for AOSP stuff.
Besides... check the Market. You might find dialer alternatives. Worth a shot.
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Amen to that ! If you want the AOSP look... get a non HTC device and leave us, HTC and HTC Sense lovers, alone! hehe
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Amen to that ! If you want the AOSP look... get a non HTC device and leave us, HTC and HTC Sense lovers, alone! hehe
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theoretically what if I like everything about the amaze besides sense UI?... I love the camera, design, build quality, screen, speed, 42mb hsdpa, etc...there are not other phones on t-mobile or other carriers that come close to this phone, or that i like that come AOSP. the only phones with true AOSP are the google flagship phones, and probably G2x and I can't think of other ones.
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theoretically what if I like everything about the amaze besides sense UI?... I love the camera, design, build quality, screen, speed, 42mb hsdpa, etc...there are not other phones on t-mobile or other carriers that come close to this phone, or that i like that come AOSP. the only phones with true AOSP are the google flagship phones, and probably G2x and I can't think of other ones.
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So by that logic, I would like a Ford Mustang Shelby with a 4 cylinder engine because it's better on fuel.
No I want the 454 big block blower
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So by that logic, I would like a Ford Mustang Shelby with a 4 cylinder engine because it's better on fuel.
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you're assuming that sense is a 8 cylinder engine and aosp is a 4 cylinder engine. In terms of cars you have the choice of getting a regular mustang which looks the same, can get all the same interior features of the car, but with a different engine...this is not possible with phones...analogy is not the same...I'm not saying I hate or like sense, as I've said before there are parts I like and parts I don't like...but trying to create a compelling argument.
If I wanted an AOSP device on T-mobile, my only choice would be a G2X. I'd rather get the better phone and sacrifice things I don't like about sense than get a older crappy phone like the G2X...all I'm saying is that options are very limited when it comes to AOSP. you cannot make the same analogy for cars.
I myself don't like sense, touchwiz, nor the True AOSP. In my personal opinion, there are a lot of things about sense UI that slow the phone down and also drain the battery, the interface however looks great and has many neat features. Touchwiz is a piece of crap but it is lighter so it doesn't bog down the system as much. I was using CM for the longest time and was very happy. I am not a big fan of True AOSP either, I actually like a modified and more customizable yet light, version of AOSP. In my opinion this is why CM has been so successful. I'm sure xboarder's release will be amazing and make a lot of people happy on this forum. everyone has personal preferences and it's is not fair to say they should have gotten a different phone, since there are no other options...believe me after my nexus one, the nexus s pissed me off, cause it was not a big upgrade...and I waited another year for the next nexus, galaxy nexus, which also didn't impress me. I knew I wanted a good camera on my phone, fast, a better screen, and as you know at first I went with samsung galaxy s II, but hated everything about it. I can happily live with my phone with a 3rd party launcher lockscreen and dialer for the next two years...so I'm not complaining at all.
I understand when people come and complain when the AOSP from xboarder is going to be released, it get's frustrating. But I don't regret this is the decision I made based on the availabe phones on the market and I'm not one bit unhappy about it...doesn't mean I wouldn't be happier with a different rom that is more AOSP like, that is why we have XDA right? so we can have options in terms of roms, kernels, and more control of how we like to customize our phones. That is why we unlocked it and possibly voided warranty.
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So by that logic, I would like a Ford Mustang Shelby with a 4 cylinder engine because it's better on fuel.
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I think a better analogy is... why would you buy a shelby mustang, only to put a ford fiesta body on it ? Yes, it'll be fast as hell, but it sure won't look like it
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I think a better analogy is... why would you buy a shelby mustang, only to put a ford fiesta body on it ? Yes, it'll be fast as hell, but it sure won't look like it
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looks is a matter of opinion , besides I usually run 3rd party launchers anyways...with 3rd party lockscreens and 3rd party dialers!!! I just don't like a lot of sense stuff bogging down my system...although this is easily taken care of in Titanium backup, i usually freeze stuff...like i said its not a biggie...everyone has their own preference...I'd rather run 3rd party things on a lighter system, Sense has some great features for me and some that I care not about...again personal preference...I get it you guys are big sense fans , I guess what I'm trying to get at atleast for me I wish I was a developer myself and could make a rom to my own liking lol...things I want from sense and things I don't want...and I'm sure its not as easy as i just described it...People come in to the office and ask to put gold crowns on their perfectly healthy teeth!!! do I agree with it? NO, its retarded and as a doctor i know it can jeopardize the integrity, lifespan and durability of the tooth...Do I still do this for them? yes, its their choice, and I explain everything to them and make them sign papers and make detailed notes about the situation...ultimately everyone has personal opinions about everything...It's not fair to shoot down people's opinions, just respect them...some people love tattooing their body and having lots of piercings, would I do that? NO. would I become friends with someone like that, absolutely...eh enough ranting...to each their own I guess...
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So by that logic, I would like a Ford Mustang Shelby with a 4 cylinder engine because it's better on fuel.
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Ford kinda did that with the SVO in the early 80's
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I think a better analogy is... why would you buy a shelby mustang, only to put a ford fiesta body on it ? Yes, it'll be fast as hell, but it sure won't look like it
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In the auto enthusiast world we call that a "sleeper". Usually it just means a highly modified car that you didn't MAKE look like it is highly modified. Not everyone wants to look like the fast and the furious.. but I think we are getting off topic a bit now.
I kind of understand why someone would want some AOSP goodness.. I replaced the launcher, the dialer, the contacts menu, and I'm happy. Sense is still there, I'll bet you it is still taking up processor, bogging things down, when I don't really like the majority of it. I am all about trying to create a custom look/feel, and AOSP for me would just mean there isn't a lot of extra bling/extras in the background I don't even use.
If I could modify the number of tiles on the stock launcher, theme it and dialer/contacts, change the dock(more buttons), change the screen animations.. then I wouldn't mind the sense part so much
I am seriously considering getting the OG for my next phone. Only one thing worries me, and that is the development community. I have been burned before (HTC Vivid) by buying what looks like a great phone, only to get no support from the dev community. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Do you think the devs are going to come, or is the draw of the N4 too great?
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I am seriously considering getting the OG for my next phone. Only one thing worries me, and that is the development community. I have been burned before (HTC Vivid) by buying what looks like a great phone, only to get no support from the dev community. What are everyone's thoughts on this? Do you think the devs are going to come, or is the draw of the N4 too great?
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Well, obviously the dev community is here to the extent that Team CodeFire has successfully unlocked the bootloader. There is also a modified stock ROM available (which I am happily using). We should also be expecting AOSP 4.2 pretty soon (heard rumors of possibly this Friday). While there aren't many ROM options at the moment, the dev community is definitely present and I believe it's only a matter of time before we start seeing more support.
I am seriously hoping that the N4 base is able to be easily ported over as mentioned. This would make this phone a Nexus 4 but with LTE and SD!!
Honestly though, I feel LG really has a nice UI on top compared to Sense and TouchWiz.
I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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Hell I've changed phones 10 times this year.
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I am definitely watching with great interest. Would love to upgrade to the OG, even though my wife insists nothing is wrong with my Vivid. I have had it over a year. Isn't that reason enough to upgrade...
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Yeah dude get the og
the best phone ever
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I came from vivid too
the best phone ever
Take this with a grain of salt: as in I hold no liability for this point of view.
The Captivate had identical hardware to the Nexus S and it *STILL* has a strong dev community. There is more that goes into that than just devs but, the similar hardware helps loads.
The phone despite have a very low number of devs still has an unlocked bootloader and I feel safe in saying the devs who are here are fairly high quality.
Even if we never attract a large number of devs/users the reality is we are in a beautiful spot compared to a lot of other devices right now.
It's also important to keep in mind our numbers can still grow big time. The more users we get, the more interested devs we get, the more we all benefit.
And being honest.. if you go play with the phone in store.. you probably will walk out with it... It's really, really, nice. I mean the other phones in store didn't hold a candle to it at bestbuy or at&t.
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Take this with a grain of salt: as in I hold no liability for this point of view.
The Captivate had identical hardware to the Nexus S and it *STILL* has a strong dev community. There is more that goes into that than just devs but, the similar hardware helps loads.
The phone despite have a very low number of devs still has an unlocked bootloader and I feel safe in saying the devs who are here are fairly high quality.
Even if we never attract a large number of devs/users the reality is we are in a beautiful spot compared to a lot of other devices right now.
It's also important to keep in mind our numbers can still grow big time. The more users we get, the more interested devs we get, the more we all benefit.
And being honest.. if you go play with the phone in store.. you probably will walk out with it... It's really, really, nice. I mean the other phones in store didn't hold a candle to it at bestbuy or at&t.
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I did want to NOT like this phone - mainly because it's an LG. But it's stupidly fast and smooth. If we see AOSP 4.2 or CM 10.1 on this beast it will be unstoppable! :cyclops:
I was hell bent on getting the Note 2 for weeks; the day I went to get one, I walked out with the OG and I have no regrets. LGs UI is a welcome change and will tide me over until the custom roms show up.
You totally should get the phone as is. Even with no further dev support. You have root, unlocked bootloader, and the stock rom debloated with tether functionality restored.
There is nothing you can't do with the stock rom. And when Jellybean comes out from LG, it will be debloated again. So even if you don't want the nexus rom or cyanogenmod (you'd be crazy not too), it's the best phone out right now. Even better than the Nexus 4.
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I was hell bent on getting the Note 2 for weeks; the day I went to get one, I walked out with the OG and I have no regrets. LGs UI is a welcome change and will tide me over until the custom roms show up.
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I was seriously wanting the Note II as well because the huge screen but this UI I feels MUCH better then TouchWiz and hardware wise it is an absolute beast. Not to say the Note II isn't fast but nothing is touching this device right now. This phone is screaming fast just imagine when it gets 4.1 or 4.2!
I just couldn't go for the Nexus 4 since it seriously lacks storage space. 8 or 16GB with no SD??? C'MON! Hell, I just installed The Bard's Tale and selected the HD pack and it took up 3.5GB on it's own. Missing LTE even further drives the nail down.
Unfortunately, most people outside of hardware geeks don't know how amazing this beast of a phone is. Then half the one who are hardware gurus are scared because its an LG. I convinced the guy next to me at work to pick up the Sprint version. He absolutely loves it too.
I would use the upgrade that I have on Att.. but the Dev community is very important to have... Only time will tell.. watching with great interest.
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I was microscopically close to pulling the trigger on the SG3 when I decided last minute to get the OG. Never regretted it for a second and I'm still bone stock.
Looking to get this as well It's down to the N4 or this. Really want LTE. Badly. But don't want to get screwed over for dev community, but I highly doubt that will happen. AOSP ROMs are on their way, undoubtedly.
from what i was told with small modifications n4 roms will run just fine on the lgog also. so that opens up way more possibilities if that is true
This is definitely one of the best devices currently since it runs buttery smooth even on ICS. 4.1/2 or CM will make this device unbelievable.
Talked my brother into getting one. He ordered his optimus g today and it was back ordered (The s3 disappeared from amazon for att days ago, probably why.) so im gonna go out on a limb and assume we will get some more people working in here in the near future.
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Agreed. It's almost like they just took AOSP & tweaked it juuuuuust a little bit. I actually like it.
Thanks for all of the great advice. I think you guys have me convinced. Friday is the day, if I can find it locally for $99.
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Thanks for all of the great advice. I think you guys have me convinced. Friday is the day, if I can find it locally for $99.
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Bestbuy will price match Amazon. You should check them out. I got mine on Saturday at BB and they had plenty of stock.
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This is just sad!!!
LG makes awesome devices, the G2 is one of the best devices available now, great hardware, great screen yet no devs or users buy it. I know its like the chicken and the egg, but still, its wired not a lot of people buy it.
HTC has S-OFF and locked bootloader, Samsung also has now that stup!d KNOX, Sony and Moto makes pretty bad devices, why devs don't develop for LG devices?!?! Why?!?!
Because no one has unlocked the G2 bootloader.
Also, it is not a popular phone.
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Because no one has unlocked the G2 bootloader.
Also, it is not a popular phone.
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I'm talking about LG in general. The Optimus G doesn't have a lot of roms.
Their phones are not popular, but they are awesome phones!
This thread was with rhetorical questions, I know this is the situation and all that, I wanted to create a discussion about this subject
Is there anyone actively looking for exploits in our bootloader?
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I do think I heard some people on the G2 IRC (freenode #lg-g2) are attempting, but I am not certain if this is true.
Anyhoo, no progress has been made currently.
Ha... because its been out for just over a week. AND in the first week we already have root.
Jeeeeeeeesh!
jmill75 said:
Ha... because its been out for just over a week. AND in the first week we already have root.
Jeeeeeeeesh!
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Go Bucks!!!!
Everyone that's demanding development/boot loader unlock...first its only been a week since the phone was released...what did you expect every dev to go out and buy a g2...next why don't you go try to learn all the complexities that are involved in the process...just cause there's no news been made public doesn't mean things aren't being worked on. The appropriate individuals will say something when the time is right..whenever the exploit/exploits are done is when they're done...don't rush our devs, make stupid posts, and pointless threads as that will just piss some of them off...that being said things are in the works, just be patient.
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Speaking of the bootloader, is there a button combo that can be used to access it? Or is there no such option on this phone. This is my first LG device so I'm feeling a bit like a fish out of water.
kingdady said:
Go Bucks!!!!
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diagf from a UM fan
I suspect that Development will come once ppl realize the Note 3 is gonna be locked down pretty hard (might take as long as the first OTA to kill any exploits like the S4). Just give it time.. VZN ppl will want a Nexus 5 like device and the LG G2 will be the closest thing hardware wise to it. Just don't expect crazy dev like a flagship Samsung device or the Moto X but there should be some in the near future.
IamPro said:
diagf from a UM fan
I suspect that Development will come once ppl realize the Note 3 is gonna be locked down pretty hard (might take as long as the first OTA to kill any exploits like the S4). Just give it time.. VZN ppl will want a Nexus 5 like device and the LG G2 will be the closest thing hardware wise to it. Just don't expect crazy dev like a flagship Samsung device or the Moto X but there should be some in the near future.
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+1. If nobody knew any better they would believe it was a Nexus 5 just from looking at screen, and the LG emblem. Oh yeah, the N5 is shipping with the same hardware...hmm um Verizon LG N5 *cough cough G2*. Development will come and when it does just root. CM. And Verizon N5 . Clearly LG is learning from their Google Nexus 4 and thats what we see in the G2, lets see the difference when the N5 comes out i bet they will be virtually identical, aesthetics and hardware wise, obviously not the software.
iowabowtech said:
Speaking of the bootloader, is there a button combo that can be used to access it? Or is there no such option on this phone. This is my first LG device so I'm feeling a bit like a fish out of water.
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The closest I know, and I dont think it's bootloader, is Volume up and plugging in USB. It brings up a download/firmware upgrade screen, which is also where you can see the Rooted boot flag displayed.
There mere fact that we have root (AND got rid of carrier ID) is indicative that development is happening.
Be patient folks
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The closest I know, and I dont think it's bootloader, is Volume up and plugging in USB. It brings up a download/firmware upgrade screen, which is also where you can see the Rooted boot flag displayed.
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Yeah that's all I've found so far too. Well that and I did stumble on our hidden diagnostics screen. (##228378 in dialer). There is a field test mode there. Doubt it'll come into play for anything but never know I guess.
You know why there's no one developing on LG phones? Because people $hitting on LG phones like it's their job. Just look at the new arstechnica review of the G2. They made it sound like it's the worst phone ever made.
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Everyone that's demanding development/boot loader unlock...first its only been a week since the phone was released...what did you expect every dev to go out and buy a g2...next why don't you go try to learn all the complexities that are involved in the process...just cause there's no news been made public doesn't mean things aren't being worked on. The appropriate individuals will say something when the time is right..whenever the exploit/exploits are done is when they're done...don't rush our devs, make stupid posts, and pointless threads as that will just piss some of them off...that being said things are in the works, just be patient.
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I don't think he was 'rushing' the devs.. Just asking why there's not much development on LG devices. But yeah, its only been out for a week, and it does seem like an awesome phone. It already has root, just give it time.
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You know why there's no one developing on LG phones? Because people $hitting on LG phones like it's their job. Just look at the new arstechnica review of the G2. They made it sound like it's the worst phone ever made.
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The Samsung fanboy is strong in that one. He completely blew things out of proportion, like come on, a font bug?! Then he left out how the camera was, just pointing out he got a bad auto image once. Then you read the S4 review and its like God handed it to him himself
Gasaraki- said:
You know why there's no one developing on LG phones? Because people $hitting on LG phones like it's their job. Just look at the new arstechnica review of the G2. They made it sound like it's the worst phone ever made.
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The Samsung fanboy is strong in that one. He completely blew things out of proportion, like come on, a font bug?! Then he left out how the camera was, just pointing out he got a bad auto image once. Then you read the S4 review and its like God handed it to him himself
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At least some ppl are keeping him honest :good:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1mkkho/review_lgs_g2_smartphone_gets_caught_living_in/
I hate to bust people's bubble but I've been around Android and its development community (XDA) a long time and from my experience I'm going to say once a phone lacks any development at the beginning, it usually stays that way to the bitter end. Development won't magically just pick up.
It's just an unfortunate part of being in a crowded phone market with HTC, Samsung and even Sony. Developers rather develop for the more popular headsets and the LG will be on the outside looking in.
I'm not going to sugar coat this, if you bought this phone for development I suggest you return it while you have a return window, cause development....it's not going to happen.
If you fell in love with the G2 phone I suggest you wait for the Nexus version of it and then you're going to have a real development community.
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shook187 said:
I hate to bust people's bubble but I've been around Android and its development community (XDA) a long time and from my experience I'm going to say once a phone lacks any development at the beginning, it usually stays that way to the bitter end. Development won't magically just pick up.
It's just an unfortunate part of being in a crowded phone market with HTC, Samsung and even Sony. Developers rather develop for the more popular headsets and the LG will be on the outside looking in.
I'm not going to sugar coat this, if you bought this phone for development I suggest you return it while you have a return window, cause development....it's not going to happen.
If you fell in love with the G2 phone I suggest you wait for the Nexus version of it and then you're going to have a real development community.
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John Snow, I didnt know you had a computer in the North? There are several developers who are trying/finding the best way to unlock the bootloader, what exactly did you expect the developers to do within a week without an unlocked bootloader? Yes, some developers go for only the big devices, and guess what, this is one. You seem to know nothing about anything around here, so dont go spreading lies.