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Hi all. Not asking for anything that is stealing....
I am a NC user in Canada.
As of yet the Amazon appstore is not available in Canada though I have it installed on my NC it won't let me download or purchase any content for geographical reasons.
I am sure this will change soon, but in the mean time I am missing out on some nice daily deals! For example swiftkey is available free today!
I am wondering if anyone would be able to pm me the apk they download for free from the appstore. I figure if I get it for free on the day it was offered free I am not taking anything away financially from them, I am only getting someone to act as my intermediary until the appstore can work for me.
Would anyone be able to?
Would greatly appreciate it!!!
I'm fairly 100% positive that Amazon is still giving money to the publisher for every 'free' app that's downloaded through their app store, so you are still taking something financially away from the publisher, even if not from Amazon. Past that, the code is still protected and not 'free' regardless of the initial cost to the user.
Possibly but fact is I am not asking for hacked app and currently it is free. being in Canada I just font have access. I font think I am asking much.
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I don't think it would work anyway as the apk for the app wouldn't be tied to your Amazon account.
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I don't think it would work anyway as the apk for the app wouldn't be tied to your Amazon account.
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Also I think Amazon can tell you're in Canada. It's the same way Hulu and other video services can tell your not in America. Unless you use a proxy then you are sol.
I tried to install the apk on my phone. It installs but when you try to change the swiftkey settings it throws an error about not having the amazon app store installed and to install the app store to use.
Has anyone tried using a usa vpn for getting apps off amazon?
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thats why i cant buy it but if i have the apk on a free app i want to see if it will work
The fact that.it doesn't cost the.person downloading it anything does not suddenly make it free and available for the downloader to distribute it as they see fit. The Amazon store is the distribution method the publisher has chosen this time, if they've (Amazon or the publisher) decided that Canada isn't a place they want to sell or allow Amazon to give the app away, that's their choice, and someone giving you the app is no different than someone giving you a paid version from the Market.
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painter_ said:
I tried to install the apk on my phone. It installs but when you try to change the swiftkey settings it throws an error about not having the amazon app store installed and to install the app store to use.
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i have appstore installed but i am in canada so appstore wont let me buy or install but if i were to sideload it might work
I am in Germany and the Amazon App Store works just fine on my NookColor. No proxy or anything like that.
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The fact that.it doesn't cost the.person downloading it anything does not suddenly make it free and available for the downloader to distribute it as they see fit. The Amazon store is the distribution method the publisher has chosen this time, if they've (Amazon or the publisher) decided that Canada isn't a place they want to sell or allow Amazon to give the app away, that's their choice, and someone giving you the app is no different than someone giving you a paid version from the Market.
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that is your opinion which is speculation it is more likely due to is sues that have nor yet been setup fact is if I drove 1 hour to south and got on few wifi there then I would have no problem.
Thanks for trying to be more of a problem than a solution.
I hope you never mess something up on your nook color as technically the stick image posted on xda wad nor felt released by Barnes and Noble dip you would be also doing something illegal.
There are cracked versions of this pretty program floating around but i wanted a legitimate version knowing it will only be a matter of time before the store goes live here and I will miss or on the offer.
Actually, it's not illegal to hack the NC. At least not in the US. They can void your warranty, but it's not illegal to hack it. What you are asking someone to do is illegal though.
A. Nonymous said:
Actually, it's not illegal to hack the NC. At least not in the US. They can void your warranty, but it's not illegal to hack it. What you are asking someone to do is illegal though.
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I didn't say hacking nook was illegal. But using an .img file of the stock Rom to restore to stock is. B&N did not open source there OS version for release. That img file is not the same file as their update files. This is the whole OS to flash back to stock.
And while what I asked might have flirted in a grey area look around at what is available on xda that is normally pay software. I merely asked for a file being offered free on the day it was offered as such. If you have a problem with that make your own thread and don't [email protected] on mine.
Canadoc said:
i have appstore installed but i am in canada so appstore wont let me buy or install but if i were to sideload it might work
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I am afraid sideloading will not work too, as Appstore will need to authenticate your credentials first.
While Swiftkey is a great keyboard app for mobiles, I find Thumb Keyboard to work better for tablets.
I may sound desperate, but I just wanted to suggest something:
Can someone who has access to the Amazon Appstore create a thread wherein he/she can upload and post the Free App of the Day .apk and update it everyday? Or at least post a link wherein we can download them apks, since they're free anyway?
It's just so sad for us located outside the US because we weren't blessed by such privilege. :'(
No offence intended, y'all, so please, no flaming. If you find my post offensive in any way, PM me and I'll remove it for you.
Thanks!
What you are proposing is against XDA forum rules, therefore it will never happen.
I don't believe it even works, does it? Isn't there some kind of DRM attached to the Amazon AppStore .apk files that makes sure it's attached to your Amazon account?
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I may sound desperate, but I just wanted to suggest something:
Can someone who has access to the Amazon Appstore create a thread wherein he/she can upload and post the Free App of the Day .apk and update it everyday? Or at least post a link wherein we can download them apks, since they're free anyway?
It's just so sad for us located outside the US because we weren't blessed by such privilege. :'(
No offence intended, y'all, so please, no flaming. If you find my post offensive in any way, PM me and I'll remove it for you.
Thanks!
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If you think its morally right to do that. Why not just find out what the app is, than use blapkmarket or 4shared to download it?
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Or at least post a link wherein we can download them apks, since they're free anyway?
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The point is... they are NOT FREE. They are paid apps that for a special deal, on that day only, is a free purchase via the Amazon Appstore (you can also access them from the Amazon website, but still need the Amazon appstore app to install them).
To link in any other method is to redistribute paid apps.
And it's already been posted that it's against XDA forum rules.
If the only thing stopping you from downloading what is most likely a $5 for free is a lack of Amazon account or not living in the United States, morally I see nothing wrong with that. But that's subjective, and if it's against the forum rules I suggest you just do as others said and find out what the app of the day is and go download the .apk online.
I suggest moving to the United States. It's not that bad here, promise.
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SCrid2000 said:
I suggest moving to the United States. It's not that bad here, promise.
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So long as you don't lose your job and get sick, that is.
I much prefer the Leonard Cohen view of America ... "the cradle of the best and the worst".
For anyone who doesn't know how the "free app of the day" deal at amazon works from a developer standpoint:
Amazon will tabulate the sales and pay the developer 20% of the full list price of the app for each "free" transaction.
Essentially, Amazon buys each "free" app purchase from the developer at a reduced cost.
If you pirate the app or download it from anywhere besides Amazon, on the day it is offered, then you still burn the developer out of the money that rightfully belongs to them.
Amazon does this to drive traffic to their web site, and to score more money in advertising and hopefully repeat business. But this app is not free like other free apps - Amazon still pays the owner of that app for each person who downloads it.
Please do not do what you are suggesting. It doesn't seem like a big deal at first, but knowing this now you will see how wrong it is.
I don't find your post offensive, a lot of people probably do not know this.
Hopefully this can serve to make more people aware of how the process works with Amazon.
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For anyone who doesn't know how the "free app of the day" deal at amazon works from a developer standpoint:
Amazon will tabulate the sales and pay the developer 20% of the full list price of the app for each "free" transaction.
Essentially, Amazon buys each "free" app purchase from the developer at a reduced cost.
If you pirate the app or download it from anywhere besides Amazon, on the day it is offered, then you still burn the developer out of the money that rightfully belongs to them.
Amazon does this to drive traffic to their web site, and to score more money in advertising and hopefully repeat business. But this app is not free like other free apps - Amazon still pays the owner of that app for each person who downloads it.
Please do not do what you are suggesting. It doesn't seem like a big deal at first, but knowing this now you will see how wrong it is.
I don't find your post offensive, a lot of people probably do not know this.
Hopefully this can serve to make more people aware of how the process works with Amazon.
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thank you for that info. its most helpful.
The OP might want to look into proxy services that mask you IP address behind a US address. Its how people abroad order books from Amazon & BN and music from iTunes.
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I suggest moving to the United States. It's not that bad here, promise.
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It looks worse and worse each day...
To the OP, can't you create an account in amazon even if you are from outside the US? Just seems kind of weird to me...but then again, I don't know.
Right now Root Explorer is only $ 0.99 on Amazon. Get it while you can!
Sweet!
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Right now Root Explorer is only $ 0.99 on Amazon. Get it while you can!
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Great deal for some, that's .99 more then what i paid
root explorer vs file expert
I'm currently using File Expert, which is free, has root access, and sysro/sysrw. What, if any, would be the advantages of spending money on Root Explorer? Or is it simply personal preference and old habit?
Greatest deal I seen on the market lately! I choose root explorer because it's simplistic and yet still has a lot of customizations. If you purchase it for the $1 try it for the 15 minutes you got
Edit: so yes it's personal preference, to me.
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If you buy from Amazon, do you still get the google market updates?
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If you buy from Amazon, do you still get the google market updates?
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No, you get Amazon market updates.
Which are slower updates
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lilecho said:
I'm currently using File Expert, which is free, has root access, and sysro/sysrw. What, if any, would be the advantages of spending money on Root Explorer? Or is it simply personal preference and old habit?
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Here's a good reason:
Root Explorer DOESN'T export your personal information every time you run it.
File Expert....
(yeah, it does.)
Ever wonder how an app as 'popular' as File Expert managed to be free in the first place?
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If you buy from Amazon, do you still get the google market updates?
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It doesn't link to the market, so you have to got through amazon every time. This alone, is enough reason for me to shell out the extra $1.
I got swiftkey x for free, but haven't re-installed it because it I didn't back it up, and I don't feel like messing with amazon apps. Just earn the extra dollar at work -it the time spent will pay for itself
Thanks for the heads up, tor new comers about it long time ago , but now I'm no trusting the amazon app store , they rip off developers and i don't think is right
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XDA members don't care, they are so cheap there asses squeak when they walk. If they can't get it for free then they don't want it.
I tried the app mentioned earlier and found it more difficult to use. Root Explorer works and it works good. It has been around a long time and is well respected and is well maintained. I also tried a free app called Total Commander which is supposed to have rw abilities, but I found it confusing and hard to use, so I was like f it, I'm just gonna buy Root Explorer. Checked on the Android Market $2.99, then checked on Amazon Appstore and it was on sale for $.99 so I bought it from them.
Not all apps are updated slower on Amazon. I have several Amazon Appstore apps and some of them update faster than the Market apps.
To the guy that says he won't use the Amazon Appstore because they ripoff devs, what are your sources on this? I would be interested in reading where devs have been ripped off.
I honestly think this was one of the very first apps I bought. Can you believe I paid full price? CRAZY!
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I tried the app mentioned earlier and found it more difficult to use. Root Explorer works and it works good. It has been around a long time and is well respected and is well maintained. I also tried a free app called Total Commander which is supposed to have rw abilities, but I found it confusing and hard to use, so I was like f it, I'm just gonna buy Root Explorer. Checked on the Android Market $2.99, then checked on Amazon Appstore and it was on sale for $.99 so I bought it from them.
Not all apps are updated slower on Amazon. I have several Amazon Appstore apps and some of them update faster than the Market apps.
To the guy that says he won't use the Amazon Appstore because they ripoff devs, what are your sources on this? I would be interested in reading where devs have been ripped off.
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http://shiftyjelly.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/amazon-app-store-rotten-to-the-core/
It sucks for the free app of the day for developers but for the consumers I guess is good, but sometimes you have to think how much work they put into their apps
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Actually, for a good app, the free app of the day deal is really good for the developer. It's advertising. Imagine, you write an app that is marked $3.99 and hardly anyone buys it so you don't really get any reviews. It hits the free app of the day deal and you get about 200 reviews. If they are positive and talk about how great the app is, when it is no longer free, people are more prone to buy it.
So don't feel too bad for devs on that deal. Without it, their app may never be purchased otherwise.
The only part that pisses me off are the idiots that think any good review of an app *they* don't like means its fake, so instead of rating the app what they truly feel they decide it is their moral imperative to "correct the balance" buy giving a decent app 1-star to counter someone 5-star app they think is fake.
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Actually, for a good app, the free app of the day deal is really good for the developer. It's advertising. Imagine, you write an app that is marked $3.99 and hardly anyone buys it so you don't really get any reviews. It hits the free app of the day deal and you get about 200 reviews. If they are positive and talk about how great the app is, when it is no longer free, people are more prone to buy it.
So don't feel too bad for devs on that deal. Without it, their app may never be purchased otherwise.
The only part that pisses me off are the idiots that think any good review of an app *they* don't like means its fake, so instead of rating the app what they truly feel they decide it is their moral imperative to "correct the balance" buy giving a decent app 1-star to counter someone 5-star app they think is fake.
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Actually devs get a hefty percentage of the full cost of the app,paid directly from Amazon, when their app is chosen to be the daily free one. It's either 40 or 60 percent, but is usually a HUGE windfall for the developer. Personally, I get the free app every day, even if I have no plans to use them on any device of mine right now. I'm sure I'm not the only one who does that, and most of the time, they're apps I would NEVER have downloaded if they weren't free for me. The developers LOVE the free app system, 'money-in-their-pocket' wise.
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yang704 said:
why pay when you can get it free from 4share.com. Yes, is the paid version for free.
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And this is the reason why we have more ****ty apps in the android market , I like android a lot but my iPhone apps are better develop.and graphics too, and you are sharing a warez website dude
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Why not purchase the app then navigate to system, data, apps and copy the .apk to your sdcard go back to the market uninstall and get your refund...then go back and install the .apk from your card and voila you have the app. Thats what I do with root access!
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See, it's tactics like that that make me want to ***** slap some people. The whole purpose of buying an app is to support the developer and encourage growth. These are not major companies producing these products. They're regular people like you and me with an idea. ****in support them if you like what they're doing.
And their prices are equivalent to a cup of coffee or a beer at the bar. It's not that bad.
As for the .99 for Root Explorer, it's a steal. Go get it! An excellent program for the price of a candy bar.
Hello, I only published one app and was hoping it would at least get me my 25$ back.
I'm from Romania and I don't find 25$ to be a cheap price. The other problem with me being Romanian is that I can't open a merchant account, so I can only post free apps. My option was to use AdMob to get a little income. It wasn't much, having only gathered 4.40$ in 3 months. On top of that, my admob was suspended and I don't know why, I read the rules and as far as I know I didn't do anything wrong. I suspect someone purposely made fake clicks in my app just to mess with me.
I now decided to try Amazon App store, they let me publish paid apps even from my country. I know there were some people who asked for a paid version with no ads. I don't know how to deal with this situation now, I have the google play app which is free but it has a Donate popup. And then there's the same app (not yet approved) but without the donate links on the amazon app store.
Have you ever tried Amazon app store? Do people really buy apps there?
What do you suggest I do?
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Hello, I only published one app and was hoping it would at least get me my 25$ back.
I'm from Romania and I don't find 25$ to be a cheap price. The other problem with me being Romanian is that I can't open a merchant account, so I can only post free apps. My option was to use AdMob to get a little income. It wasn't much, having only gathered 4.40$ in 3 months. On top of that, my admob was suspended and I don't know why, I read the rules and as far as I know I didn't do anything wrong. I suspect someone purposely made fake clicks in my app just to mess with me.
I now decided to try Amazon App store, they let me publish paid apps even from my country. I know there were some people who asked for a paid version with no ads. I don't know how to deal with this situation now, I have the google play app which is free but it has a Donate popup. And then there's the same app (not yet approved) but without the donate links on the amazon app store.
Have you ever tried Amazon app store? Do people really buy apps there?
What do you suggest I do?
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I had bad experience with Amazon store, they take long time to approve apps.
Imo there is no good enough alternative for Google Play at the moment
Same here, rather bad luck with Amazon to date...
wststreet said:
Hello, I only published one app and was hoping it would at least get me my 25$ back.
I'm from Romania and I don't find 25$ to be a cheap price. The other problem with me being Romanian is that I can't open a merchant account, so I can only post free apps. My option was to use AdMob to get a little income. It wasn't much, having only gathered 4.40$ in 3 months. On top of that, my admob was suspended and I don't know why, I read the rules and as far as I know I didn't do anything wrong. I suspect someone purposely made fake clicks in my app just to mess with me.
I now decided to try Amazon App store, they let me publish paid apps even from my country. I know there were some people who asked for a paid version with no ads. I don't know how to deal with this situation now, I have the google play app which is free but it has a Donate popup. And then there's the same app (not yet approved) but without the donate links on the amazon app store.
Have you ever tried Amazon app store? Do people really buy apps there?
What do you suggest I do?
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I have tried amazon app store and publish it for free, i see your app is live wallpaper and as i know Kindle users do not like live wallpapers.
i suggest you try slideMe appstore.
Buddy... Wait till google add romania to the merchant list... ..
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Both amazon and getjar weren't really useful for me. I did get more traffic from the Opera store. Since my game focuses on in app purchases to make $ it's hard to get traction on any other store since currently I use IAB.
What kind of app did you have? Games I think are most successful with ads, but in the end it depends from app to app, I guess.
You can try Samsung App here: http://seller.samsungapps.com/
I have bad experience with Amazon. Low downloads and last weeks Admob ecpm is extremely low (about 0.05). Has anybody tried to integrate Amazon's banner ads?
Amazon app store is an avenue that developers are still figuring out how to utilize optimally for their purpose.
I agree with most of what has been said here... I don't get even 1% of the amount of downloads from Amazon as I do from Play. In my opinion it is just not Amazon's focus as Play is "THE" store front for apps. I think like most business ventures, it has a lot to do with timing. What kind of niche are your getting into. If super saturated, you may need to create a category within a category in order to reach new users.
You can win Kindle Fire HD now for integrating their api.
https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/mobileads.html
Agreeing with previous posters that Google Play doesn't have a good enough alternative yet...
Have tried SlideMe and Amazon and neither have got close to the Play Store in my case.
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Agreeing with previous posters that Google Play doesn't have a good enough alternative yet...
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True, but ARPU on Amazon is far better than on GPlay. Of course GPlay is x10 (at least) when it comes to its reach but if you have a good app, use Amazon's APIs (ads, inapps, etc.) and talk to them, you might get featured. My experience is they actually respond to emails
Amazon Appstore will not make you uber-rich but it's a valid option, much better than GetJar imho.
Hi
If I wanted to release an app on the Play Store for free but wanted the option that anyone can pay if they wanted to, how would I go about doing it? I dont want to have two apps, just one paid and one free.
Is it possible to have something similar to in app purchase but thats a way of thanking the dev? And does Google take a percentage from it? Or maybe PayPal link in the app?
Or any other methods?
You can use in-app billing to do what you need.
Google take 30% of your sales and as far as I am aware you are not allowed to link to paypal.
You can find a tutorial for in- app billing here or you can look through the official documentation here.
Good luck.
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You can use in-app billing to do what you need.
Google take 30% of your sales and as far as I am aware you are not aloud to link to paypal.
You can find a tutorial for in- app billing here or you can look through the official documentation here.
Good luck.
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Thanks
Ive seen apps that link to PayPal
ermacwins said:
Hi
If I wanted to release an app on the Play Store for free but wanted the option that anyone can pay if they wanted to, how would I go about doing it? I dont want to have two apps, just one paid and one free.
Is it possible to have something similar to in app purchase but thats a way of thanking the dev? And does Google take a percentage from it? Or maybe PayPal link in the app?
Or any other methods?
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Lol. Why would anyone pay for something that is available for free? No matter how better the application is, if it is available for free than i am never going to pay for it no matter what. And when it comes to your question's answer no you can't do that, Google Play isn't offering any such option. Yes Google takes 30% of your sales and so does iTunes.
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Lol. Why would anyone pay for something that is available for free? No matter how better the application is, if it is available for free than i am never going to pay for it no matter what. And when it comes to your question's answer no you can't do that, Google Play isn't offering any such option. Yes Google takes 30% of your sales and so does iTunes.
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Fact is, some people will pay for something that is free.
Most of the ROM's, apps etc on xda are free. They are done by devs that enjoy what they do and enjoy helping others. People donate to them as a way of saying thank you.
Also, in the past I've put apps on Google Play that are completely free, with a donate version that is exactly the same. People have used the free version, then bought the donate version because they liked it. It's all down to the individual.