Greetings guys ,
Note 2 user here and the last 2 years i am on Samsung.
My first ANDROID phone was xperia x10.
I would like to ask the end users how happy they are with the device and if you had a chance would you change it ?
I checked many reviews on the tablet s and to be honest i really like the design , interface and the special touches that sony making to the operating System. Of course as i checked stucked on ICS but thats not a problem for me at the moment.
Anyway i would like to hear some experience for people already owning the tablet because tomorow i will go shopping for my tablet and this in my country its a bit expensive one .
My wife can keep the ipad
Cheers guys
Hello vatis!
i own my tablet s since about 2 months now an i love it!
it has Remote function and a card reader which is awesome!
Anyways its a fast and very stylish interface.i am very happy with my tablet.even gaming is very good.my tab 2 10.1 for example is lagging on nfs mw and my tablet s isnt! the only thing that is bad is,that it is unrootable on release5a (which iam unfortunately on).
Tablet S is a bit old hat, the processor was always laggy, even with ICS.
Now have the Xperia Tablet S and would fully recommend. Un-rootable from Release 6 up...
I got my 32GB tablet for $255 USD shipped from woot so it was worth it for me. I'll summarize my experience:
Positives:
- Great Sony only apps like the beautiful Walkman player, remote control functionality
- Bright, vivid screen with deep blacks
- Unique, light design.
- Full SD card slot for memory expansion.
Negatives:
- Lots of flicker
- Can barely run 720p videos smoothly (yes, I tried different codecs), Handbrake optimized iPhone 4 ones work perfectly.
- Browsing in Chrome is quite sluggish.
- No car charger/USB charging option
Thanks guys for your nice comments.
Cheers
Vatis
On my 3rd tablet now, Sony Xperia Tablet S 64gb and am finally happy!
My #1 requirement was a Tegra cpu, sorry, Nvidia fan here. #2 was sd card slot and 3rd was good display. Had the Asus Prime, beautiful device but zero gps capability and weak wifi because of full aluminum back, not acceptable for a $500 tablet!
Next was a 7" lenovo with Tegra and card slot but the display was horrible. If Lenovo had a better display it would have given the Nexus a run for their money.
Sony is a little pricey but has everhthing I was looking for and the display may not be 1080p but is still very nice and easy on the eyes! Also after owning 7 and 10 inch tablets somehow the Sony @ 9.4 feels just right.
And one more thing, not sure what the big deal was about "splash proof", I never planned on cooking or swimming with my tablet but this device deserves a lot more love than it's been receiving!
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I would't buy a tablet s and get the new xperia tablet s instead.
vatis24 said:
Greetings guys ,
Note 2 user here and the last 2 years i am on Samsung.
My first ANDROID phone was xperia x10.
I would like to ask the end users how happy they are with the device and if you had a chance would you change it ?
I checked many reviews on the tablet s and to be honest i really like the design , interface and the special touches that sony making to the operating System. Of course as i checked stucked on ICS but thats not a problem for me at the moment.
Anyway i would like to hear some experience for people already owning the tablet because tomorow i will go shopping for my tablet and this in my country its a bit expensive one .
My wife can keep the ipad
Cheers guys
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You should buy the Xperia Tablet S.. Pretty nice tablet... and soon the android JB update will be avaliable!
vatis24 said:
Greetings guys ,
Note 2 user here and the last 2 years i am on Samsung.
My first ANDROID phone was xperia x10.
I would like to ask the end users how happy they are with the device and if you had a chance would you change it ?
I checked many reviews on the tablet s and to be honest i really like the design , interface and the special touches that sony making to the operating System. Of course as i checked stucked on ICS but thats not a problem for me at the moment.
Anyway i would like to hear some experience for people already owning the tablet because tomorow i will go shopping for my tablet and this in my country its a bit expensive one .
My wife can keep the ipad
Cheers guys
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If your query is about money, yes, this tab is absolutely worth it. This is one of the "older" tabs that is going out of circulation soon (I believe). I bought this device last week and am absolutely surprised + happy
Pros
- 9" screen. It might not be the same as iPad (and pointless comparing anything with iPad!), but good enough getting your work done
- device is indeed fast for doing 'normal' stuff
- browsing, playing games et al is good on the screen
- functional remote control through IR for your TV etc. Though, this is more of a gimmicky feature, it was cool to work with
- device came with Honeycomb and updated itself to ICS. My hunch is JB will not be offered as the HW may not be 'fast' enough - heck Sony doesn't offer JB for even some of their latest Xperia models far less for 2011 Xperia phones (I have a Xperia Arc and can tell you that the ICS IS sluggish - no point going to JB)
Cons
- No HDMI output
- I see random flickering (white flashes)
If your need is a 9" device at a good price point, grab this before it goes out of stock
Thanks for your replies guys,
Proud owner of the Xperia Tablet S as from 7th of January ,
Happy with the tablet but i am waiting the JB update that will fix a lot of ICS bugs, specially the 4.0.3 which is well known more buggy than others.
I love the build quality and the strong wifi signal.
Previewsly had the Toshiba AT300 , the build quality really is very cheap and bad ! Also the screen is horrible ! And very laggy machine , for exable if you had a live wallpaper and a few process in the memory the tablet was worse than a single core !
With Xperia tablet i run the most demanding live wallpapers and nothing affects the speed!
SD card slot its a huge plus ! ( not mini SD , SD)
I love the mini apps which are very usefull and the remote control its a huge Plus !
The 4 core Tegra cpus and gpu performs amazingly good never saying NO to me
Screen quality its very good sharp like a crystal but @ my opinion the colours are a bit washed out , i need a little bit more color.
Sony's Ui, very nice elegant @ my opinion and as far of Sony apps as i said before mini apps are amazing,Remote control , the guest mode and the customazation are a huge plus !
Battery life , usually i am getting 2 days with 6 hours of screen time , i am very pleased.
The most -con of the device is the web browser and i cant really understand WHY !
@my opinion is the most serious problem of the tablet, very buggy unusable app.
Anyway now waiting for the JB to improve i believe to the max the tablet , hope to get it soon !
Share your thoughts pls !
Cheers
Vatis
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Hi Guys,
I have used Xperia X10, Xperia Arc, Xperia Play, Xperia S and I am finding it really difficult to think about another brand !!!
I just want to know the opinion of Xperia users (Xperia S/Arc S), do you guys thinking about moving to Samsung Galaxy S3?
Actually I have used Xperia S for a short time & returned the set due to:
1. Built Issues - lower part (below the transparent strip) was very loose, the phone looks very fragile, once dropped, its gonne (i hate using cases)
2. No Physical Button - I really missed the physical button (I know its personal choice), galaxy S3 has one single button.
3. Still lagging - the phone still lags, Xperia promoted this too much but I can still lag while switching screens.
4. Camera is not so good - I find my 8MP cam of Xperia Arc far better than XS.
5. Everybody hates the flip covers - common problem.
Regarding Galaxy S3 - I know its not beautiful design but it has got power, I have Galaxy Note and I know its a beast.
Note: I just need opinions so no arguments or word wars please
i never thought of samsung, moreover iproducts are costly.
And main thing is i don't have any problem with my xperia s currently and i am happy with it.
Not the galaxy s3. If the problems I have with the xs are not solved I would consider the one x.
Wouldn't think of it.
My reasons in a nutshell:
Too ugly (blah design), bad screen (pentile so not true HD), not much of an upgrade (more cores isnt always better).
by the way, there was already an opinion thread on the S3 made, and it got closed because it went a bit....south I guess.
you can see more opinions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1637191
and I hope this thread won't turn out like the last one, but yea...
I want powerful phone this time, dont want to buy n to make my phone wrking better by rooting !!!
It should run smooth...
I am waiting for SG3 & XGX.
I really liked the smoothness of HTC One X !!!
Good option.
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Well if you want power above all, the One X or the SGS3 wouldn't be a bad option.
I don't know if it's still a problem though, but the One X was a battery vampire I hear.
I myself have thought about a Razr (not easily available here) or HTC phone (One S) before moving over to the S. I don't really like sense though, but the design of HTC devices never hit the spot, so picked the S in the end.
I don't know how you will be lag-wise, as android itself has a sort of lag by design. You may have returned your device within 15min I read, but you didn't really give it enough time to win your heart. It is a powerful device without even needing to do anything to it.
But yes, for benchmarks above all, those two devices would be the best option currently. Or you can wait for the Mint to release and not have a brand dilemma at all . For actual daily use, I am not sure you will see a difference, as the S is already mostly butter smooth and has the design factor as well.
My reason was this..
PURCHASED XPERIA S and RETURNED within 15 minutes !!!
Guys,
Today I make up my mind n decided to purchase xperia S, enough waiting for GX/Hayabusa..
But once purchased, while playing with it, I found that the lower part of the XS (below the transparent strip) is loose, I can move that part n looks pathetic
I went to the store, he exchanged immediately with another one, that too was not looking very solid !!!
Its just me unluckily or luckily saw that or its design/built issue
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xperiax10.awesome said:
My reason was this..
PURCHASED XPERIA S and RETURNED within 15 minutes !!!
Guys,
Today I make up my mind n decided to purchase xperia S, enough waiting for GX/Hayabusa..
But once purchased, while playing with it, I found that the lower part of the XS (below the transparent strip) is loose, I can move that part n looks pathetic
I went to the store, he exchanged immediately with another one, that too was not looking very solid !!!
Its just me unluckily or luckily saw that or its design/built issue
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Your luck, probably early batch. 12w11 here, the build is rock solid, even port flaps.
Same here. No build Quality issues at all. Mine is 12W16.
The port flaps also seem well built. As for lag, I don't think GS3 would be noticeably smoother in daily usage than XS. XS is already almost on par with Galaxy Nexus and Htc One X in terms of real life usage even with Gingerbread.
ICS update should make things even smoother.
As for the GS3, nope I won't buy a Samsung phone ever. The GS3 design is a joke and its too big for my taste. Plus has an inferior camera, and a much less sharp screen with over saturated colors. No thanks
These no. 12w11, 12w16 are written on back right? After removing the back case???
Or is there any way to identify the batch seeing the Box itself!!
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Mate are you serious? Haven't we already had a thread like this that got kicked to the bottom of the forum?
Found here THREAD CLOSED
Again this is for the General discussion thread not for the Xperia S forum.
Not starting a flame war, just stating fact via my opinion.
-smc
Im staying with my XS.
Main reson is the design that looks like no other mobile out there.
And i a everyday use, i dont think ill notice the difference in dual vs. quad power.
The screen size is allso a problem for SIII. Its not the size of the boat, its the motion of the ocean thats important.
We've been through all this before!!
Thread Closed.
Hi All,
I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. Let me elaborate:
[Background]
Currently on my first android phone, the LG Optimus One and considering it's almost a legacy phone, it has an active dev support and even JB Roms were made for this device. However, i'm currently using the MIUI ROM nd really loving it's interface.
[Current Scenario]
A friend of mine will be coming down from USA, and asked me if i wanted anything, So i thought it will be a good time to upgrade my phone, as i am really tired of installing a custom rom almost every other week, also tired of the legacy ARMv6 phone,
So i searched in newegg, amazon for a phone under 350 USD, and narrowed down to Xperia P and Galaxy Nexus.
Now, I know that if i get a Galaxy nexus, I'm sure i wouldn't have to worry about updates and the really strong dev support, but on the other hand I really love the looks of Xperia P. Also i feel a 4 inch screen is perfect and it has a better camera too.
Now I'm really not into gaming on the phone, and would like to use the "phone as a phone" mainly, with internet browsing, music, HD videos and photography as the other uses.
I also feel that a 4.65 screen is way too big to fit in my pocket.
I have a few questions regarding the Xperia P:
So i'd like to know how the build quality of the Xperia P is?
Is having a non-removable battery a major CON?
Is the Sony 'modded' version of android good enough to not use the custom roms?
Will there be a dev support for Xperia P in terms of custom roms and kernels in the near future?
All in all, which phone do i finally choose in that budget range?
Regards,
CD
CosmicDance said:
Hi All,
I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. Let me elaborate:
[Background]
Currently on my first android phone, the LG Optimus One and considering it's almost a legacy phone, it has an active dev support and even JB Roms were made for this device. However, i'm currently using the MIUI ROM nd really loving it's interface.
[Current Scenario]
A friend of mine will be coming down from USA, and asked me if i wanted anything, So i thought it will be a good time to upgrade my phone, as i am really tired of installing a custom rom almost every other week, also tired of the legacy ARMv6 phone,
So i searched in newegg, amazon for a phone under 350 USD, and narrowed down to Xperia P and Galaxy Nexus.
Now, I know that if i get a Galaxy nexus, I'm sure i wouldn't have to worry about updates and the really strong dev support, but on the other hand I really love the looks of Xperia P. Also i feel a 4 inch screen is perfect and it has a better camera too.
Now I'm really not into gaming on the phone, and would like to use the "phone as a phone" mainly, with internet browsing, music, HD videos and photography as the other uses.
I also feel that a 4.65 screen is way too big to fit in my pocket.
I have a few questions regarding the Xperia P:
So i'd like to know how the build quality of the Xperia P is?
Is having a non-removable battery a major CON?
Is the Sony 'modded' version of android good enough to not use the custom roms?
Will there be a dev support for Xperia P in terms of custom roms and kernels in the near future?
All in all, which phone do i finally choose in that budget range?
Regards,
CD
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Ok, I have XP for couple of weeks. Build quality is excellent (aluminum unibody) and screen is gorgeous (bright and colorful). I think that non removable battery isnt a major CON, but the capacity could be (about a day on single charge). Sony ICS ROM is fast enough and it looks ok. We have allready couple of custom ROMs and Kernels including CM9.1 so I think that future of developing on XP is bright.
Which phone to choose? Hm, I dont know, both are good, its up to u and ur taste.
Edit: XP will get JB in Q1 2013.
P looks more slick and feels solid to the hand than GNex.
But spec-wise and current software(buttery JB), it's GNex advantage over P.
Tapatalked from my Xperia P
So Galaxy Nexus's only advantage is the super fast OS updates?
How does the camera and music compare between them? The screen isn't that important to me, as i feel there will be a negligible difference between them... Please correct me if i'm wrong
CosmicDance said:
Hi All,
I'm in a bit of a dilemma here. Let me elaborate:
[Background]
Currently on my first android phone, the LG Optimus One and considering it's almost a legacy phone, it has an active dev support and even JB Roms were made for this device. However, i'm currently using the MIUI ROM nd really loving it's interface.
[Current Scenario]
A friend of mine will be coming down from USA, and asked me if i wanted anything, So i thought it will be a good time to upgrade my phone, as i am really tired of installing a custom rom almost every other week, also tired of the legacy ARMv6 phone,
So i searched in newegg, amazon for a phone under 350 USD, and narrowed down to Xperia P and Galaxy Nexus.
Now, I know that if i get a Galaxy nexus, I'm sure i wouldn't have to worry about updates and the really strong dev support, but on the other hand I really love the looks of Xperia P. Also i feel a 4 inch screen is perfect and it has a better camera too.
Now I'm really not into gaming on the phone, and would like to use the "phone as a phone" mainly, with internet browsing, music, HD videos and photography as the other uses.
I also feel that a 4.65 screen is way too big to fit in my pocket.
I have a few questions regarding the Xperia P:
So i'd like to know how the build quality of the Xperia P is?
Is having a non-removable battery a major CON?
Is the Sony 'modded' version of android good enough to not use the custom roms?
Will there be a dev support for Xperia P in terms of custom roms and kernels in the near future?
All in all, which phone do i finally choose in that budget range?
Regards,
CD
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Build quality is sexy, recieved a lot of compliments from my friends, really looks and feels like a premium product despite its mid range price. Having a non removable battery is only a con if you're the type to carry around a spare battery (I dont tend to this) for when youre running low, but with quite a small battery this might be a phone that people would have liked to able to remove the battery, but you can still reset the phone without a battery pull. I very much like the experience of Sony's android, looks nice and is quite smooth in my experience, but up against JB on the nexus not so great i guess. Im hopeful for some dev support in the future, because Sony arent the best when it comes to updates right now we're close to getting cm9.1 i think, i cant really say much on what the future of this phones development holds i dont know much about development... But if you're picking between the Xperia P and Nexus, the nexus has more future support and a better screen and better chipset. Dunno about the nexus camera but ive found pictures and videos taken on my P a bit grainy, and shots taken with auto settings arent always great.. I'd still go with the P because i like the look of it, that was a big thing for me, how the phone looks.
CosmicDance said:
So Galaxy Nexus's only advantage is the super fast OS updates?
How does the camera and music compare between them? The screen isn't that important to me, as i feel there will be a negligible difference between them... Please correct me if i'm wrong
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Camera is better on Xperia P, much better. Music player, Walkman vs. stock android, what do u think?
MadManMark said:
Build quality is sexy, recieved a lot of compliments from my friends, really looks and feels like a premium product despite its mid range price. Having a non removable battery is only a con if you're the type to carry around a spare battery (I dont tend to this) for when youre running low, but with quite a small battery this might be a phone that people would have liked to able to remove the battery, but you can still reset the phone without a battery pull. I very much like the experience of Sony's android, looks nice and is quite smooth in my experience, but up against JB on the nexus not so great i guess. Im hopeful for some dev support in the future, because Sony arent the best when it comes to updates right now we're close to getting cm9.1 i think, i cant really say much on what the future of this phones development holds i dont know much about development... But if you're picking between the Xperia P and Nexus, the nexus has more future support and a better screen and better chipset. Dunno about the nexus camera but ive found pictures and videos taken on my P a bit grainy, and shots taken with auto settings arent always great.. I'd still go with the P because i like the look of it, that was a big thing for me, how the phone looks.
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It's kinda sad that Sony ditches it's products even before a year is completed for the phone, for example the 2011 models aren't getting any updates and i'm sure the same fate awaits the current series of Xperias.
To be honest, I'm really tired of installing custom ROMS frequently, but then i have to depend on them as my current phone(LG Optimus One) has a pathetic stock rom. But Hats off to the devs at the optimus one thread, they even managed JB(CM10) on that phone.
As long as the stock rom is decent enough, i don't mind using an 'older' version of android. Therefore the advantage of frequent updates that the galaxy nexus enjoys doesn't apply to me. i just want a stable phone.
Even the bigger screen of Nexus One is a deterrent for me. Atleast thats how i personally feel.
I'd like to know how the battery life of the Xperia P is, as i'm reading a lot of conflicting reviews regarding this part.
neoxx3m said:
Camera is better on Xperia P, much better. Music player, Walkman vs. stock android, what do u think?
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Well yeah! It's a walkman
Don't think just go for nexus.
Every thing is better not better perfect
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CosmicDance said:
It's kinda sad that Sony ditches it's products even before a year is completed for the phone, for example the 2011 models aren't getting any updates and i'm sure the same fate awaits the current series of Xperias.
I'd like to know how the battery life of the Xperia P is, as i'm reading a lot of conflicting reviews regarding this part.
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Battery life is decent, about one day on moderate use (1 hour of talk time, 2-3 hours on wlan, couple of sms, couple of camera shots). And about updates, I got ICS update, and one small update after that (bug fixes). XP will get JB in Q1 2013 (new rumor say in early December 2012). Three updates in less than a year, enough for u?
CosmicDance said:
It's kinda sad that Sony ditches it's products even before a year is completed for the phone, for example the 2011 models aren't getting any updates and i'm sure the same fate awaits the current series of Xperias.
To be honest, I'm really tired of installing custom ROMS frequently, but then i have to depend on them as my current phone(LG Optimus One) has a pathetic stock rom. But Hats off to the devs at the optimus one thread, they even managed JB(CM10) on that phone.
As long as the stock rom is decent enough, i don't mind using an 'older' version of android. Therefore the advantage of frequent updates that the galaxy nexus enjoys doesn't apply to me. i just want a stable phone.
Even the bigger screen of Nexus One is a deterrent for me. Atleast thats how i personally feel.
I'd like to know how the battery life of the Xperia P is, as i'm reading a lot of conflicting reviews regarding this part.
Well yeah! It's a walkman
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If you just want to use your phone as a phone without gaming or watching videos the battery should be good enough in the p.
The stock roms are great and look amazing, I prefer them to vanilla android.
The update policy of Sony is okay, even if the 2011 only 'got' ics. I mean, not many other companies update their low end / not flagship phones. Many people I know didn't even update their 2011 Xperias to ics because they don't like it (or don't care). For anyone who depends on the newest firmware there are custom roms.
I'd get a p because of the look and the camera. You can update the p to a newer firmware with custom Roms but there is no way you'll ever get a better camera etc. for the nexus.
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CosmicDance said:
So Galaxy Nexus's only advantage is the super fast OS updates?
How does the camera and music compare between them? The screen isn't that important to me, as i feel there will be a negligible difference between them... Please correct me if i'm wrong
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I feel the screen legibility outdoors is unbeatable in the case of the XP (maybe due to the extra white pixel) , though I have only compared it to the nexus s and HTC legend...
I like the feel and class of aluminium finish (HTC and Sony) more than the plastic feel of Samsung...
Outdoor shots using the stock Sony camera are truly brilliant in detail, but I wish I could say the same with indoor photos and low light photos -both are afflicted by a great amount of noise...
For music, as mentioned earlier, you get the Walkman app, nuff said
I get a day's worth of battery life with moderate 3g/WiFi usage and 1hour of calls, but I carry around my charger just in case and I have a car charger for busier days... Sony's implementation of fast charging is also good, the battery reaches 90% within an hour...
The software updates for Galaxy Nexus will definitely extend beyond JB, but the same cannot be said about Sony...
I ordered the Xperia P guys
Thanks to everyone for helping me making the decision
Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. The most important thing is that i have to decide till 30.11 because there's an promotion in my shop. Xperia S + Euti with keyboard in one price.
The main question is that i won't make a big mistake, mainly im concerned about Sony's support for Tabs. I'm sure that Samsung won't leave Tab just like that without any updates and most of developers are now working with Galaxy i guess.
SO, do You think that Xperia S will get updates and developers will take care of that model? Because my friend with older one is very disapointed about Sony's updates, etc.
Thx for any answer and sorry if i did topic in wrong section.
The xperia tablet s is no developer darling. Far from it. Sony is extraordinary slow on updates. My local support didn't even know if jelly bean were "in the making" for the xperia. But official, international Sony has confirmed it. But considering devices like the Motorola zoom allready got jelly bean, despite being 2+ years old, Sony is really not a particulaly good OEM, when it comes to updates. About the tablet it self : really bugged. Really bad software, mediocre battery life, and filled to the brim with bloatware. Fortunately, root access has been achieved, so that can be dealt with. Design and feel of the tab is awesome, but software wise, it's close to disaster. Far from finished.. I say, put your money on a nexus 10. Same price, better specs, vanilla Android and better support from google and developers alike. Just my 2 cents.
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Yes I tuner to the Xperia this tablet is not for programmers and adventurous. But the Xperia Tablet is a very very useful device - top is the display and the processing - up to now I just noticed a bug - Standby Wifi Bug ... but otherwise everything works super - I have when buying and I'm also expecting no desire to torment me with Custom Roms have more bugs that have been adapted from programmed Hobbyprogs /. Previously I had an LG V900 and the LG IPAD2 there was only one update us .. but from 3.0 to 3.1 and there was already ICS out then the device is not supported in any further a USB connection without function and not a fix. Samsung is not exactly famous for its updates only when the new series - when the unit is 2 years old it was then with updates ... Also, the Google phones and tablets not convince me ... In the end it's like with all things, there is nix perfect one must always make swab ... I already have the Xperia S phone and am very excited so I decided for the Xperia S Tablet ... and I have not regretted it or not root task of the manufacturer is to close the gaps and has the Sony made you can not even be angry ... and JB is certainly the end of January 2013
Ryumari said:
Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. The most important thing is that i have to decide till 30.11 because there's an promotion in my shop. Xperia S + Euti with keyboard in one price.
The main question is that i won't make a big mistake, mainly im concerned about Sony's support for Tabs. I'm sure that Samsung won't leave Tab just like that without any updates and most of developers are now working with Galaxy i guess.
SO, do You think that Xperia S will get updates and developers will take care of that model? Because my friend with older one is very disapointed about Sony's updates, etc.
Thx for any answer and sorry if i did topic in wrong section.
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I agree with Raedek
Premium feel, awesome design and above average display. It could be a winner if not for the buggy software. I couldn't get past the random shutdowns while watching movies or in sleep mode. I've had a positive experience with the nexus 7 so I tend to agree with the suggestion to go with a Nexus 10. Good luck with your decision
Personally I wouldn't touch the Sony S v2 tablet.
I made the mistake with the first Sony Tablet S when it was heavily discounted only to learn that this tablet has very poor developer support: no ROMs and can't even do a nand backup. Updates are also non-existent.
My Sony S is pretty much junk ATM IMHO.
My advice would be to avoid and go for something that is more widely supported (i.e Xoom or Samsung tablets) by developers.
Good luck.
Ryumari said:
Hello everyone.
I'm at rly big dilemma right now. So, I'm wondering if i should buy Sony Xperia S or Galaxy Note 10.1. /QUOTE]
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Totally disagree with all the comments here which seem to come from people that owned the previous tablet, but not the S2.
I don't spend my money lightly and after last years model, I wanted to be sure this was the right tabletl before I spent money on another Sony product.It wasn't the wrong choice, the Xperia Tablet S is a fantastic bit of kit, I don't have any bugs with mine (or bugs that affect me) and it wasn't purchased because of the development support.
If you want development, go with the Nexus 10, but if it's not development you want, the Xperia Tab is for you. Have had it since day 1 and love it!!!
The xperia tablet s is no developer darling. Far from it. Sony is extraordinary slow on updates. My local support didn't even know if jelly bean were "in the making" for the xperia. But official, international Sony has confirmed it. But considering devices like the Motorola zoom allready got jelly bean, despite being 2+ years old, Sony is really not a particulaly good OEM, when it comes to updates. About the tablet it self : really bugged. Really bad software, mediocre battery life, and filled to the brim with bloatware. Fortunately, root access has been achieved, so that can be dealt with. Design and feel of the tab is awesome, but software wise, it's close to disaster. Far from finished.. I say, put your money on a nexus 10. Same price, better specs, vanilla Android and better support from google and developers alike. Just my
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Agreed. Battery life excluded. I like the device, I own it, but it can be underwhelming at times. Personally, I don't like the Nexus 10. Feels cheap and the outstanding specs, like screen resolution and contrast seem subpar comparing to the Xperia Tablet S, even though it embodies half the screen resolution. Seems silly, but that is what I see.
The xperia tablet is one of the best currently on the market. The only android tab that could outdo it in my mind right now is the nexus 10 because of the awesome display and ram...but no sd card slot so if you want lots of storage you have to pay 500.
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So I have an Asus Infinity at the moment. Not very happy with it as it lags terribly and its user experience isn't great (vastyl improved with CleamRom but still not seemless).
I'm thinking of replacing the TF700 with a Nexus 10 or a Sony Tablet Z when its out towards the end of May. Ideally I'd have a tablet with a microSD card but for the £100 (+) differential over the tablet Z I may be able to live with this.
Anyone else thinking about either of these tablets? Any other thoughts or comments?
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So I have an Asus Infinity at the moment. Not very happy with it as it lags terribly and its user experience isn't great (vastyl improved with CleamRom but still not seemless).
I'm thinking of replacing the TF700 with a Nexus 10 or a Sony Tablet Z when its out towards the end of May. Ideally I'd have a tablet with a microSD card but for the £100 (+) differential over the tablet Z I may be able to live with this.
Anyone else thinking about either of these tablets? Any other thoughts or comments?
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I have the Nexus 10 and i'm really happy with it. Once I saw the weight and how thin it is, I liked it. However, the price, the angle of the screen, the battery (6000 mah and nexus 10 has 9000), and also the long time that sony takes to upgrade the android, made me not care about this tablet.
@OP: in the exact same boat.
the TF700 has gotten worse over time, despite CleanROM, Brower2RAM, other tweaks — or perhaps my tolerance for a $500 tablet performing like crap has finally diminished to the point where i'm just can't take it anymore.
Tablet Z sounds great, but like IKBZI has stated, the puny battery could definitely be an issue. also viewing angles on the phone Z has been pretty crap, just hope that the tablet is better. microSD is a plus though. the premium price you pay for a Sony irks me though, especially when it's not even running the latest OS version.
that said, i think the Nexus 10 is also a contender because of the front-facing speakers and that massive resolution. i already have a tablet with 1920 x 1200 resolution, you know? however, the colour gamut sucks and maybe there isn't enough horsepower to push all those pixels consistently (based on various reports of lag, etc. -- i know there are plenty happy about it though). plus having to pay extra for a pogo charger, and still have slow charge times, etc.
i'm waiting to see how the Z turns out in reviews, but also eagerly awaiting news of a what a next-gen Nexus 10 might look like.
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however, the colour gamut sucks and maybe there isn't enough horsepower to push all those pixels consistently (based on various reports of lag, etc. -- i know there are plenty happy about it though).
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The Nexus 10 has issues from thermal throttling that cause lag on the stock kernel. Get a custom kernel and your issues will go away. And especially KTManta with its massive GPU overclock you can get great gaming performance on the Nexus 10.
Personally I would choose the Nexus 10 over a Sony tablet because I like the more active development of Nexus devices and how easy they are to mod, and get the latest versions of Android always.
N10, of course... Development matters...
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Buy a tablet Z now, and pretty soon you'll suffer from key lime pie envy. I don't want to buy a new tablet every year just to be able to keep up with the second newest version of android.
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i'm waiting to see how the Z turns out in reviews, but also eagerly awaiting news of a what a next-gen Nexus 10 might look like.
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The next Gen Nexus 10 won't be out for a good long time though (>6 months)? The N10 looks great, however, the lack of 3G and microSD are putting me off. I could live with one, but both will be tricky.
One has to wander why it is so difficult to make an Android tablet with an HD screen, microSD, 3G and a decent battery!
I prefer to the Nexus 10 because I like the pure Android and the timely update. As for the sd card, I can find some other ways to expand the storage of Nexus 10.
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Buy a tablet Z now, and pretty soon you'll suffer from key lime pie envy. I don't want to buy a new tablet every year just to be able to keep up with the second newest version of android.
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No. Sony is pretty supportive of the dev community right now. I would say that the Tablet Z will get Android 5.0 almost as soon as the Nexus devices.
The decision between these tablets should be based on how much you want to spend for better looks, water resistance and all those details...
About the SD card thing: I use OTG and I don't feel too uncomfortable with it. It could be better, but that is criticism on a high level. The Nexus 10 is worth every penny.
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No. Sony is pretty supportive of the dev community right now. I would say that the Tablet Z will get Android 5.0 almost as soon as the Nexus devices.
The decision between these tablets should be based on how much you want to spend for better looks, water resistance and all those details...
About the SD card thing: I use OTG and I don't feel too uncomfortable with it. It could be better, but that is criticism on a high level. The Nexus 10 is worth every penny.
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I'm glad Sony is being supportive of the dev community but I think you'll be waiting a bit for a 5.0 update. You'll get something un-official long before something from Sony and that will still be a bit after the Nexus devices get it.
You might want to play with the Z at a Sony store if there is one near you.
The N10 is my favorite Android device. Aside from it being a Nexus and all that comes with that, the great performance, the stunning screen, I just really love the physical design, from the look/shape/feel/color, the speakers on the front to the soft touch material on the back. Reminds of the Nexus S that I also loved. Big pat on the back to the industrial design guys/gals that worked on this tablet.
the design of sony tablet z is very appealing to me, but i am really into ultra hi-res displays and the rubber of nexus 10 is quite a pleasure to hold in your hands
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The Nexus 10 has issues from thermal throttling that cause lag on the stock kernel. Get a custom kernel and your issues will go away. And especially KTManta with its massive GPU overclock you can get great gaming performance on the Nexus 10.
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intriguing! thanks for the info ...
got me reading a bit about KTManta. came across the odd comment that says it affects the colours/gamut positively. anyone have info/data/screens of that? asking because there doesn't appear to be any specific settings in KTweakerT that you can change to affect colour.
if that screen was a bit closer to sRGB, i'd jump on it.
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intriguing! thanks for the info ...
got me reading a bit about KTManta. came across the odd comment that says it affects the colours/gamut positively. anyone have info/data/screens of that? asking because there doesn't appear to be any specific settings in KTweakerT that you can change to affect colour.
if that screen was a bit closer to sRGB, i'd jump on it.
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There are no settings as it is not user adjustable. There is no color control at all for any kernels or ROMs on this tablet yet, and there may never be for all we know. There are color tweaks in the KTmanta kernel that bring the RGB values much closer to what they should be, however the blue color is still very far off. These minor tweaks to the colorspace are hard coded into the kernel.
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No. Sony is pretty supportive of the dev community right now. I would say that the Tablet Z will get Android 5.0 almost as soon as the Nexus devices.
The decision between these tablets should be based on how much you want to spend for better looks, water resistance and all those details...
About the SD card thing: I use OTG and I don't feel too uncomfortable with it. It could be better, but that is criticism on a high level. The Nexus 10 is worth every penny.
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The s is just now getting jellybean
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Everybody here talking about Key Lime Pie !!
Does anybody know wats KLP, wat are the changes and additional features over Jelly Bean??
@OP: i have used Nexus 10, its ok tablet, its also suffering from random crashes n other issues.
I am looking forward to Sony Xperia Tablet Z because of its premium looks and sleek design, and for me if Jelly Bean is butter smooth on XTZ, m not bothered abt KLM !!
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xperiax10.awesome said:
Everybody here talking about Key Lime Pie !!
Does anybody know wats KLP, wat are the changes and additional features over Jelly Bean??
@OP: i have used Nexus 10, its ok tablet, its also suffering from random crashes n other issues.
I am looking forward to Sony Xperia Tablet Z because of its premium looks and sleek design, and for me if Jelly Bean is butter smooth on XTZ, m not bothered abt KLM !!
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Engadget says that the sony xperia tablet z is that thin that when you do a little pression on the screen, you will see the same that happened on the old screens, when you used your finger to press the screen.
Not sure how to describe it, but I mean, when on an old screen you made pression with your finger, you could see some kind of "bubble" on it.
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No. Sony is pretty supportive of the dev community right now. I would say that the Tablet Z will get Android 5.0 almost as soon as the Nexus devices.
The decision between these tablets should be based on how much you want to spend for better looks, water resistance and all those details...
About the SD card thing: I use OTG and I don't feel too uncomfortable with it. It could be better, but that is criticism on a high level. The Nexus 10 is worth every penny.
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I personally would never buy any of the Nexus tablets. The bezel is entirely too wide. I am looking for a 10.1 inch screen , jellybean , 32G storage and 2 GB of Ram. Wifi only . The Sony Xperia Z looks good .. It has nice thin bezels. And the specs are good.
I realise posting in this section will get me biased reviews, but Im 99% sure the xperia tablet s is right for me just want a few opnions from people who have one.
My situation is that my windows laptop has about had it, it still works but even after a fresh format it just doesnt keep up with me these days. For the first time ever since my first wndows 3.1 machine I am wanting to move away from microsoft completly and move across to android (I will be keepig the windows laptop in a cupboard just in case theres something I cant do on android such as root a phone and such, you just never know)
I got myself my first android phone back in April which is an xperia T and I have fallen in love with it, I have rooted it, unlocked the boot loader and now got it running exactly how I want with no glitches, at the time it was a close call between the T and the Samsung S3 however after owning the T I am glad I went with sony over sammy mainly for how professional and business like it feels, the samsung just looks and feels like a childs phone compared in my opinion
This leads me to the tablet obviously the xperia z tablet would be my ideal choice, but I just cant warrant having that much in a tablet so my options came down to:
Xperia Tablet S
Nexus 10
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
I really want to stay with the Sony Brand mainly because I love their take on android over samsung or stock android, Im just a little worried that Im buying something that is a dead or at least fast dying tablet? Mainly because sony seem to have discontinued everything now, obviously they are really pushing the z phone and tableand seem to be neglecting almost every other model
Would I be better going with the much more popular tab 2, samsung do seem to keep things well updated and there is a much larger raange of accessories?
Or paying out a little more and getting the superior Nexus 10? The display sounds fantastic and I am sure I would love the nexus 10, but its quite a lot me expensive than the s
I would use it for emails, typing on the internet in forums, surfing the net and controlling my synology disk station, then maybe when me and the misses go away watching a film, but that would be about as far as I would ever need to push the tablet
Just wanting to hear real world opinions and such on the xperia tablet s, if you have one, do you with you had something else or do you love it?
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I realise posting in this section will get me biased reviews, but Im 99% sure the xperia tablet s is right for me just want a few opnions from people who have one.
My situation is that my windows laptop has about had it, it still works but even after a fresh format it just doesnt keep up with me these days. For the first time ever since my first wndows 3.1 machine I am wanting to move away from microsoft completly and move across to android (I will be keepig the windows laptop in a cupboard just in case theres something I cant do on android such as root a phone and such, you just never know)
I got myself my first android phone back in April which is an xperia T and I have fallen in love with it, I have rooted it, unlocked the boot loader and now got it running exactly how I want with no glitches, at the time it was a close call between the T and the Samsung S3 however after owning the T I am glad I went with sony over sammy mainly for how professional and business like it feels, the samsung just looks and feels like a childs phone compared in my opinion
This leads me to the tablet obviously the xperia z tablet would be my ideal choice, but I just cant warrant having that much in a tablet so my options came down to:
Xperia Tablet S
Nexus 10
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
I really want to stay with the Sony Brand mainly because I love their take on android over samsung or stock android, Im just a little worried that Im buying something that is a dead or at least fast dying tablet? Mainly because sony seem to have discontinued everything now, obviously they are really pushing the z phone and tableand seem to be neglecting almost every other model
Would I be better going with the much more popular tab 2, samsung do seem to keep things well updated and there is a much larger raange of accessories?
Or paying out a little more and getting the superior Nexus 10? The display sounds fantastic and I am sure I would love the nexus 10, but its quite a lot me expensive than the s
I would use it for emails, typing on the internet in forums, surfing the net and controlling my synology disk station, then maybe when me and the misses go away watching a film, but that would be about as far as I would ever need to push the tablet
Just wanting to hear real world opinions and such on the xperia tablet s, if you have one, do you with you had something else or do you love it?
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Wait for 2nd gen Nexus 10. These Sony tabs are locked down and don't really get any updates anymore. I would wait for the next Nexus 10, and either get the new Nexus 10, or get a used 1st gen Nexus 10 when the prices drop.
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Wait for 2nd gen Nexus 10. These Sony tabs are locked down and don't really get any updates anymore. I would wait for the next Nexus 10, and either get the new Nexus 10, or get a used 1st gen Nexus 10 when the prices drop.
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Thanks I have been half thinking that, I just love the Sony android style, like the idea of phone and tablet being the same. Does the final fw for the xps have issues or is it a great firmware? If it's perfect I don't really need future updates, however if it's poor and the bootloader is locked, guess I would be stuck. Thanks
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Thanks I have been half thinking that, I just love the Sony android style, like the idea of phone and tablet being the same. Does the final fw for the xps have issues or is it a great firmware? If it's perfect I don't really need future updates, however if it's poor and the bootloader is locked, guess I would be stuck. Thanks
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Right now, the XTS has some issues with Wi-Fi even though one of the updates was supposed to fix it, and I've heard of a bug where the Tegra 3 will only use 2 cores instead of all 4. The core count bug is fixable with a root app, but it's not exactly permanent and it doesn't always work. And trust me, even though you say you won't mind not getting updates, once you flash 4.4 or some future version of android on your phone, you will change your mind. The screen on the XTS is crap too, with bad color saturation, low resolution, and bad viewing angles. You would be much happier with a Nexus 10.
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Right now, the XTS has some issues with Wi-Fi even though one of the updates was supposed to fix it, and I've heard of a bug where the Tegra 3 will only use 2 cores instead of all 4. The core count bug is fixable with a root app, but it's not exactly permanent and it doesn't always work. And trust me, even though you say you won't mind not getting updates, once you flash 4.4 or some future version of android on your phone, you will change your mind. The screen on the XTS is crap too, with bad color saturation, low resolution, and bad viewing angles. You would be much happier with a Nexus 10.
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Thanks for the advice, I'll take it and get myself a nexus 10 shame not to have the Sony ui, but the nexus seems a great device, can't justify the extra for the Xperia z just to get the Sony ui.
Never know I may even end up preferring stock android
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Thanks for the advice, I'll take it and get myself a nexus 10 shame not to have the Sony ui, but the nexus seems a great device, can't justify the extra for the Xperia z just to get the Sony ui.
Never know I may even end up preferring stock android
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There are plenty of Sony themes for ROMs with the theme engine anyway, so if you unlock the bootloader on the Nexus you could make it look similar to a Sony anyway
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There are plenty of Sony themes for ROMs with the theme engine anyway, so if you unlock the bootloader on the Nexus you could make it look similar to a Sony anyway
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Sounds like the solution if I don't like the stock ui.
Cheers buddy think you have pushed me in the right direction
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Sounds like the solution if I don't like the stock ui.
Cheers buddy think you have pushed me in the right direction
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Have a look at the xtz its fully supported by the sony MOBILE team not viao so its a good option if you want to flash roms at a later date
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and sony XTS rooted stock j.b thanks djrbliss
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Have a look at the xtz its fully supported by the sony MOBILE team not viao so its a good option if you want to flash roms at a later date
rooted lighting wildfire on unoffical j.b from benni
and sony XTS rooted stock j.b thanks djrbliss
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Yeah thanks for the suggestion as I said in my original post its a little more than I want to have in a tablet to be honest.
I have actually ended up buying a nexus 10 and a 2nd gen nexus 7, as I couldnt decide which would be right for me, Ill have a good go with both of them and decide before factory resetting one and sticking it back on ebay, fortunatly good condition second hand ones go for about £5 less than brand new ones on ebay.
I just couldnt decide between them if I wanted the screen size or the weight advantage