Can I use metro pcs's lte network on the thunderbolt? I'm going to metro for a couple of months before I go to verizon and when is this beast coming out?
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different frequencies means no. Not to mention the device will most likely be locked, does anybody even offer LTE sim unlocks?
for reference,
MetroPCS is doing LTE on the 1700Mhz band
Verizon is doing LTE on the 700Mhz band
Can't wait to see some Verizon phones get unlocked. It will just be a crazy feeling I tell you. Hopefully in the next couple of years they can cut out this *228 horse **** and that's the only thing I like better about att is sim cards.
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Hi
I have the Droid Razr unlocked and working on at&t 3G.
Since at&t is upgrading to 4G soon. Will it work on my phone.
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At&t LTE and Verizon LTE are incompatible so your answer is no.
Your only hope would be if somehow the GSM radios are enabled but I would not expect that to happen.
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He seems to have non-US RAZR, judging from the signature.
OP, you will never get LTE on this phone, but HSPA+ AT&T has should work more than well.
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I figures since the network selection only said 2G or 3G.
Thanks for your reply.
I still love it though. Coning from a bad week testing Nokia N9.
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Epic fail.
LTE will possibly be achieved on INTL RAZR, by Moto or by us. And as far as I know, LTE is LTE, there shouldn't be any uncompatibilities between an operator or another, but I can be wrong on that.
It should be like saying ATT's HSPA+ is different from H3G ITA's HSPA+.....
Coming from some examinations, the LTE capability is enabled in the INTL RAZR radio (CDMA is disabled). It's only a RIL problem.
Ah, I missed your sig. Disregard my answer.
In the US the RAZR will not be compatible with At&t. Different LTE frequencies as well as CDMA vs. GSM.
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388526,00.asp
This explains the frequency differences between the two networks.
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With the recent announcements of the HTC Butterfly I'm a tad bit confused. I've seen a couple of people say things like it's unfortunate for the people who already bought the Droid DNA and some people were saying they were going to jump ship.
My question is....will the HTC Butterfly work for Verizon in the US? From my understanding it is GSM. Verizon is CDMA right? I also read that the Butterfly doesn't have LTE, so even if it will work on Verizon, it won't connect to LTE correct? Excuse my ignorance but I'm not really familiar with unlocking phones to run on other networks and how all that compatibility stuff works.
The Droid DNA is already unlocked out of the box ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993031
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007143
Clipse89 said:
With the recent announcements of the HTC Butterfly I'm a tad bit confused. I've seen a couple of people say things like it's unfortunate for the people who already bought the Droid DNA and some people were saying they were going to jump ship.
My question is....will the HTC Butterfly work for Verizon in the US? From my understanding it is GSM. Verizon is CDMA right? I also read that the Butterfly doesn't have LTE, so even if it will work on Verizon, it won't connect to LTE correct? Excuse my ignorance but I'm not really familiar with unlocking phones to run on other networks and how all that compatibility stuff works.
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The DNA works on Verizon LTE and any gsm network. The butterfly will work on any gsm network but no Verizon, no LTE period.
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The DNA works on Verizon LTE and any gsm network. The butterfly will work on any gsm network but no Verizon, no LTE period.
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Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
I'm fixing to get a first gen razr
To use on gsm service ive read that they become unlocked after ics update? Is this true? And can anyone confirm working on tmobile 3g or hspa
And does anyone know the gsm 3g bands it supports? I plan to use t-mobile
I got 3g on my vzw Unlocked note 2 on t-mobile and hope the razr supports same band 1900 2100 gsm
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droid RAZR unlocked for global gsm roaming. BUT its not working inside US.
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Then im scr**** i waisted a good trade thinking It would.. Work
Is there Any way to get it to pick up on US gsm service why would it only be internationally capable and not in the US
Is there any hack or way around this
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lojak29 said:
Then im scr**** i waisted a good trade thinking It would.. Work
Is there Any way to get it to pick up on US gsm service why would it only be internationally capable and not in the US
Is there any hack or way around this
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46 pages. and no results yet. radio is blocking us carriers.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1619563
Hello,
ATT user here currently on Note 2. I'm planning on buying G2 off contract and I'm debating between ATT and Tmo. Verizon is out because although it has SIM card it won't access LTE on GSM.
I understand that Tmo has all the bands ATT does and more, is that true? Would that explain why it's $600 on Tmo site and $580 on ATT? I looked at their respective wiki's and product page but they don't provide consistent descriptions. If anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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ergoautumn said:
Hello,
ATT user here currently on Note 2. I'm planning on buying G2 off contract and I'm debating between ATT and Tmo. Verizon is out because although it has SIM card it won't access LTE on GSM.
I understand that Tmo has all the bands ATT does and more, is that true? Would that explain why it's $600 on Tmo site and $580 on ATT? I looked at their respective wiki's and product page but they don't provide consistent descriptions. If anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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I know the Moto X has more bands for Tmobile's version vs. AT&T. I wouldn't be surprised if the same is true for the LG G2 as well
From Wikipedia:
D800 ZNFD800 AT&T 850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801 ZNFD801 T-mobile 850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
this doesn't answer the OP's question, but, i have a sim unlocked att G2 and i can get 4G and 4G LTE service with my T-Mobile sim/account. coverage is not as good as at&t in my location.
Awesome, thanks Sacrosaint!
I went through the LTE wiki, it seems like 5 is not that prevalent. Seems like the Bahamas, South Korea, Belize...it seems to me that Tmo would be the better choice, no? What with its use of the AWS spectrum and all. I'm still on ATT for another year so I won't be jumping ship yet (by then I guess the G3 would be out...)
The only concern is whether ATT's LTE-A frequency can be grabbed by the Tmo version, whenever it launches...
Sacrosaint said:
From Wikipedia:
D800 ZNFD800 AT&T 850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801 ZNFD801 T-mobile 850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
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I tried att lg g2 with my tmobile SIM it never gave me 4g/lte returned it back and got the new one from tmobile. Everything Is working fine on att I could only get 2g/edge and that is a known prob the att lg g2 does not have 1700 aws band for tmobile.
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Hmm. So you have Tmo plan and the ATT model didn't get you any LTE at all?
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I have AT&T and im using the t-mobile G2
I get 100% LTE everywhere I go. no problems whatsoever. havnt seen my phone display anything lower than 4G (and 4G LTE)
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leony74 said:
I tried att lg g2 with my tmobile SIM it never gave me 4g/lte returned it back and got the new one from tmobile. Everything Is working fine on att I could only get 2g/edge and that is a known prob the att lg g2 does not have 1700 aws band for tmobile.
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Not sure of the truth to that. Verizon, T-mobile, and At&t all support LTE band 4 which is AWS 1700. It might be more likely a carrier lock that prevents you from getting full coverage?
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Sacrosaint said:
From Wikipedia:
D800ZNFD800AT&T850/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 5, 17
D801ZNFD801T-mobile850/1700/1900/2100 LTE 2, 4, 17
TMO supports AWS, unlike AT&T. AT&T supports LTE band 5, unlike TMO.
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LTE band 4 is AWS and supported by AT&T. The frequencies listed in the wiki are for 3G/UMTS coverage which AT&T doesn't support AWS.
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Bands schmands.....I'm trying to figure out if I should ditch att for t-mobile. I'm in the new York area. What do you guys think. I have 10 days to pull the trigger
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DO ET!
mrbungle999 said:
Bands schmands.....I'm trying to figure out if I should ditch att for t-mobile. I'm in the new York area. What do you guys think. I have 10 days to pull the trigger
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I'm in AZ and actually purchased LG on day one that AT&T sold it. They did not want to sell out-right so I got a prepaid service and told them I would not activate until next month...Manager looked at me like I was a terrorist. Went outside and on my then GS4 went to an unlocker site and SIM UNLOCKED LG in about 25 mins. I tried two different APNs and one seems to be best as I have LTE mostly all over the valley!
SUMMERY
-Got phone before anyone else on TMObile
-Got phone at least $60+ cheaper W/taxes
-I can use the WIFI free hotspots of AT&T, always on the road...
-At work my LTE is 27-36mb down compared to 12on att co-workers, and Verizons 17MB on a different co-worker!
-At home my signal is a tiny bit spotty, oddly is only in my room ge 1-2 bars H+
kyler13 said:
LTE band 4 is AWS and supported by AT&T. The frequencies listed in the wiki are for 3G/UMTS coverage which AT&T doesn't support AWS.
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Ah thank you for the clarification. So the Tmo version will get 3G coverage in areas the ATT version will not?
I called Tmo yesterday. They won't ask me a phone straight out, I have to buy a one month plan . Now I see why the prices on eBay are higher than the $600 listed. Just looking for a store that has the white model.
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Oh I totally forgot about the wifi thing...is that an ATT service that works with our ATT plan, or will it know I'm using a Tmo phone and not let me connect? Not a big deal since I have 2 GB and always come under each month but itd be nice to have.
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ergoautumn said:
Ah thank you for the clarification. So the Tmo version will get 3G coverage in areas the ATT version will not?
I called Tmo yesterday. They won't ask me a phone straight out, I have to buy a one month plan . Now I see why the prices on eBay are higher than the $600 listed. Just looking for a store that has the white model.
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Well, since t-mobile's 3g/umts is predominantly on the AWS 1700 band, utilizing a t-mobile SIM on the at&t model will result in sparse coverage for 3g, short of roaming. I understand t-mobile has built out some of their 3g on 1900 as well so that would work for you. Based off of frequency support, I would say the t-mobile version is the better one to unlock and potentially use between at&t and t-mobile networks. LTE band 5 support doesn't buy you anything domestically.
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Thank you everyone for your input . Guess Tmo it is.
Though...One wonders what their software support is like...I read that since they do wifi calling they're updates have to go through extra approval above and beyond the othercarriers because they have to deal with the FCC?
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ergoautumn said:
Awesome, thanks Sacrosaint!
I went through the LTE wiki, it seems like 5 is not that prevalent. Seems like the Bahamas, South Korea, Belize...it seems to me that Tmo would be the better choice, no? What with its use of the AWS spectrum and all. I'm still on ATT for another year so I won't be jumping ship yet (by then I guess the G3 would be out...)
The only concern is whether ATT's LTE-A frequency can be grabbed by the Tmo version, whenever it launches...
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Here in the Bahamas we don't have LTE yet, but we're planning on covering the same spectrum as AT&T, bands as well.
no AT&T LTE on T-mo G2
I have an unlocked T-MO LG G2. I recently swithced to AT&T (which only benefit is greater coverage area bc HSPA+ is way slower than T-MO) however my phone is not showing 4G LTE only 4G. when i searched for networks the very first time it listed AT&T LTE but would not let me connect and now it doesn't even show up in the network search. Does the T-Mo variant block a certain frequency used for AT&T LTE ??
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I have an unlocked T-MO LG G2. I recently swithced to AT&T (which only benefit is greater coverage area bc HSPA+ is way slower than T-MO) however my phone is not showing 4G LTE only 4G. when i searched for networks the very first time it listed AT&T LTE but would not let me connect and now it doesn't even show up in the network search. Does the T-Mo variant block a certain frequency used for AT&T LTE ??
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Iirc the tmo variant doesnt support atts lte bands (700/1700mhz)
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x714x said:
Iirc the tmo variant doesnt support atts lte bands (700/1700mhz)
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Incorrect. T-Mobile devices support ALL AT&T and T-Mobile bands, except LTE Band 5 (used by AT&T in a few rural areas). What's wrong is AT&T turns off LTE for non-AT&T devices. You have to call them up and give them the IMEI # of an AT&T-branded device (even if it's not yours and even if your SIM isn't in it/you don't plan on using it). They don't check after that.