With the recent announcements of the HTC Butterfly I'm a tad bit confused. I've seen a couple of people say things like it's unfortunate for the people who already bought the Droid DNA and some people were saying they were going to jump ship.
My question is....will the HTC Butterfly work for Verizon in the US? From my understanding it is GSM. Verizon is CDMA right? I also read that the Butterfly doesn't have LTE, so even if it will work on Verizon, it won't connect to LTE correct? Excuse my ignorance but I'm not really familiar with unlocking phones to run on other networks and how all that compatibility stuff works.
The Droid DNA is already unlocked out of the box ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993031
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007143
Clipse89 said:
With the recent announcements of the HTC Butterfly I'm a tad bit confused. I've seen a couple of people say things like it's unfortunate for the people who already bought the Droid DNA and some people were saying they were going to jump ship.
My question is....will the HTC Butterfly work for Verizon in the US? From my understanding it is GSM. Verizon is CDMA right? I also read that the Butterfly doesn't have LTE, so even if it will work on Verizon, it won't connect to LTE correct? Excuse my ignorance but I'm not really familiar with unlocking phones to run on other networks and how all that compatibility stuff works.
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The DNA works on Verizon LTE and any gsm network. The butterfly will work on any gsm network but no Verizon, no LTE period.
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The DNA works on Verizon LTE and any gsm network. The butterfly will work on any gsm network but no Verizon, no LTE period.
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Oh ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Hey people!!
Just wanted to know if I can be lucky and run this baby in India on a GSM network?
If so, how and what do I need?
Someone is coming from USA...but what about the contract with Verizon??
And performance wise which is better X1, X2 RAZR or Bionic??
Thanx!
You can't run this phone on a GSM network, it is a CDMA phone.
Contracts from foreign countries are something you need not worry about.
I suggest the Droid 2 Global for use on a GSM network. My dad has one and it's great.
I think the only one of those that is a "world phone" is the Droid RAZR. All the others are CDMA (and LTE in the case of the Bionic which does take a SIM card but only for LTE). Droid RAZR seems to be GSM compatible, and has the same specs as the Bionic, as well as an improved screen.
ralphwiggum1 said:
I think the only one of those that is a "world phone" is the Droid RAZR. All the others are CDMA (and LTE in the case of the Bionic which does take a SIM card but only for LTE). Droid RAZR seems to be GSM compatible, and has the same specs as the Bionic, as well as an improved screen.
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donlad said:
You can't run this phone on a GSM network, it is a CDMA phone.
Contracts from foreign countries are something you need not worry about.
I suggest the Droid 2 Global for use on a GSM network. My dad has one and it's great.
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RAZR is a good option...but my question is how do I run it here as it will be Verzion locked?
Also, if i unlock it, will I get official updates to next Android OS?
circleofomega said:
RAZR is a good option...but my question is how do I run it here as it will be Verzion locked?
Also, if i unlock it, will I get official updates to next Android OS?
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Call up Verizon and say you'll be out of the country and need it unlocked. And unlocked wont do anything to updates, if you root it probably will though
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Get a Droid 3. Problem solved
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stumpyz9 said:
Call up Verizon and say you'll be out of the country and need it unlocked. And unlocked wont do anything to updates, if you root it probably will though
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and wont they charge me for it and also why would Verizon just give me one like that? Some under the table negotiations?
Also, performance wise, which is better?
RAZR or Droid X2 pr Bionic?
I dont like Droid 3 sorry..
circleofomega said:
and wont they charge me for it and also why would Verizon just give me one like that? Some under the table negotiations?
Also, performance wise, which is better?
RAZR or Droid X2 pr Bionic?
I dont like Droid 3 sorry..
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I don't think there's fees, just one of the perks of having a world phone, and I would say either bionic or raze, x2 only has half the ram.
Or why not an attic, basically same as bionic but gsm
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stumpyz9 said:
I don't think there's fees, just one of the perks of having a world phone, and I would say either bionic or raze, x2 only has half the ram.
Or why not an attic, basically same as bionic but gsm
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He's right. Go with an already GSM phone if you're going to use on GSM. Motorola Atrix is Tegra 2 like Droid X2 but with more RAM, and Atrix 2 is TI OMAP4 like D3, Bionic, and RAZR, and has an improved screen over DX2, D3, and Bionic.
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He's right. Go with an already GSM phone if you're going to use on GSM. Motorola Atrix is Tegra 2 like Droid X2 but with more RAM, and Atrix 2 is TI OMAP4 like D3, Bionic, and RAZR, and has an improved screen over DX2, D3, and Bionic.
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also the og atrix has an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER!
Lastly, the Razr isn't even available yet, lol. You are going to have an issue with a phone that doesn't exist, at least not physically in your hands.
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Lastly, the Razr isn't even available yet, lol. You are going to have an issue with a phone that doesn't exist, at least not physically in your hands.
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I lol'd. Srsly I don't think the RAZR Is even globabl capable, if you want a strong phone that's global I'd say Atrix or D3. Bionic and Razr prety much the same, 200 mhz difference which I'm sure is a result of the Bionic being underclocked. Im sure that'll be fixed soon since the source code has been released. Razr does have super amoled but it also is pentile, same w/ the Nexus Prime. Built in Battery in the Razr for me no bueno, and no SD card on the Nexus = da fuq.
They announced there will be European and possibly Asian versions, but it could be like what they did for the Droid 1, made 2 different phones that looked the same with different antenna's, Droid and Milestone. Either way, launch is what 2-3 weeks away, lol.
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They announced there will be European and possibly Asian versions, but it could be like what they did for the Droid 1, made 2 different phones that looked the same with different antenna's, Droid and Milestone. Either way, launch is what 2-3 weeks away, lol.
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thanx everyone...just one more question since this member mentioned it...will thee be ANY sort of difference in the hardware./software jn the Asian versions? Ofwoyherthe razor or bionic??
Thanx...i guess will have to go back to the age old game of waiting and watching...
I don't think they have released that info yet. You might want to check with your carrier.
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I don't think they have released that info yet. You might want to check with your carrier.
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Carriers in India aren't that strong a player...but I will keep a check...also, the Droid X2 is cool, but CDMA...anyway to get that working outside the current network...? I mean it will be Verizon, but here it will be Reliance...so anyway to get that working here..?
I would say, tell your friend to call Verizon and ask to have it unlocked. Once he/she gets to India they will have to give the MEID/ESN numbers to Reliance. Then, will probably have to open new service with them and get a new number. Verizon uses a specific spectrum range for CDMA, thus why the phone doesn't work on Sprint's CDMA network. The phone may, or may not be compatible with Reliance CDMA, but I could be wrong.
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I would say, tell your friend to call Verizon and ask to have it unlocked. Once he/she gets to India they will have to give the MEID/ESN numbers to Reliance. Then, will probably have to open new service with them and get a new number. Verizon uses a specific spectrum range for CDMA, thus why the phone doesn't work on Sprint's CDMA network. The phone may, or may not be compatible with Reliance CDMA, but I could be wrong.
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thanx! That helped me make my decision...Droid RAZR or Bionic. Mostly it will be RAZR.
In India, CDMA isn't as strong as GSM. Anyways...thanx everyone who replied. Every answer waw helpful. Just a question, more to myself than to U guys, why would Motorola make such a cool device wig CDMA technology and not GSM?
Anyways...
Verizon outweighs all GSM competitors in the US. They know the users typically who want the most bang for their buck android device want it on Verizon before with 3G CDMA and now 4G LTE and CDMA. Our GSM providers are horrible.
I love rezound very much, but you won't get a phone that you can not call and using internet. I'm with Vodafone AU, and the phone works for Verizon with LTE 4G.
Are there anyway to make it work with WCDMA? Any way to unlock or hack it?
Big thanks! Please help me become one of Rezounders in the future!
I want to help you ，but I dont know how to do ...
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I love rezound very much, but you won't get a phone that you can not call and using internet. I'm with Vodafone AU, and the phone works for Verizon with LTE 4G.
Are there anyway to make it work with WCDMA? Any way to unlock or hack it?
Big thanks! Please help me become one of Rezounders in the future!
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I'm not an expert or a dev, but I know for sure that we can't do much at all in the way of hacking until s-off is achieved. Furthermore, I could be wrong but I don't think the rezound supports wcdma.
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The Rezound only operates on the CDMA2000 and LTE standards on top of operating only at specific bands.
Despite the similar name, WCDMA is not the same as "CDMA" - it is a GSM variant and is therefore not compatible with the Rezound, as the Rezound does not support nor contain a radio for that standard.
so then what is the diff between;
lte/voice
lte global
lte/cdma(auto)
I'm in a spot where Verizon says isn't the best coverage; although I'm constantly between 2-3 lte bars. is one superior than others
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I had 3g goin while talking on the phone.....if that helps....
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No, this phone can not be used as a world phone. You will be unable to use it on either CDMA or LTE. Not to mention, you have to have a Verizon LTE SIM to program the phone.
Next time, search! The answers to all these simple questions are in the forum.
Just saw this tweet. Not sure how true it is or if he means 4G HSPA or not.
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It ain't lte. Bands don't match up.
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Verizon and AT&T use different frequency bands for their LTE networks. The DNA won't operate on the AT&T band
Yea, Nergi got back to me and said the same thing. I was pretty sure they didn't work but when I saw that tweet, I got excited.
Will the Verizon droid DNA work on straight talk?
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Will the Verizon droid DNA work on straight talk?
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The Droid DNA is for Verizon Right? I dont belive this combination will work, as Verizon is CDMA and I belive Strait TALK IS gsm
It will work. The DNA is a global phone.
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You wont get 4g though. You might get hspa+, maybe. However you will be getting screwed over because straight talks's gsm coverage is inferior to their cdma coverage.
I was just gonna start a thread on this topic. I'm using straight talk on my DNA right now. I get hspa+ or "at&t" 4g speeds. I was just talking with a Wal-Mart rep who told me, that 3 straight talk users here In Montana were terminated from straight talk because the SIM runs on AT&T network. In the fine print supposedly it's only supposed to use sprint, and Verizon networks. I guess AT&T caught these users using their towers.
I'm a little scared of getting terminated myself. But I don't want to pay Verizon high ass prices! I guess that new law will affect us after all.
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You wont get 4g though. You might get hspa+, maybe. However you will be getting screwed over because straight talks's gsm coverage is inferior to their cdma coverage.
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Define "screwed".
AT&T's 3G is faster than Verizon's. You can't use Straight Talk Verizon with your own phone either.
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Mr.Mischief said:
Define "screwed".
AT&T's 3G is faster than Verizon's. You can't use Straight Talk Verizon with your own phone either.
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^^ That's what she said
iv been using straight talk sim on a verizon droid dna for awhile now and everthing seems to work fine even the h+ speeds. seeing that it is a global phone you just have to create a new apn via straight talk change the network mode and your done
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iv been using straight talk sim on a verizon droid dna for awhile now and everthing seems to work fine even the h+ speeds. seeing that it is a global phone you just have to create a new apn via straight talk change the network mode and your done
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I think they meant on the CDMA side of straight talk vs the gsm side.
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brian85 said:
Will the Verizon droid DNA work on straight talk?
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Since I've bin back using my HTC DNA I've bin with ultra.me which is in new york, so far no problem. Honestly if you yourself has an account with them I wouldn't worry. But for myself I keep hearing about METRO PCS about unlocked phones & up too $100 REBATE , I think I might check that out. The subject of the story is that if you have a phone you like make sure it's unlocked & go to whoever you feel comfortable with bottom line!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Walk through please?
To any of the posters that have the dna running on straight talk, I'd love a walk through on what needs to be done to get this to work. I'm giving my boyfriend my old dna, and he has straight talk service currently. He's really excited to get a phone that's a lot better than the one he's been using for the last three years, and I really want to pull this off for him but Im not sure what exactly I need to do. All help is appreciated... Thanks!
I think you just set the phone to global mode for gsm networks of on stock. If using a custom Rom, just download the gsm version.
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cherryiice1 said:
To any of the posters that have the dna running on straight talk, I'd love a walk through on what needs to be done to get this to work. I'm giving my boyfriend my old dna, and he has straight talk service currently. He's really excited to get a phone that's a lot better than the one he's been using for the last three years, and I really want to pull this off for him but Im not sure what exactly I need to do. All help is appreciated... Thanks!
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Service is good as it runs on at&t. HSPA speeds can vary from 2-8 MB so for $45 a month you can't go wrong. If he uses a sense based ROM he will probably have to manually edit his APN which the Straight Talk website covers in detail. If its a stock android ROM for me it automatically configured my APN. I just put my ST Sim in the phone.
im using att
do any one knows how to connect it on cdma instead of gsm att or tmobile?
Flash HTC DNA to CDMA Straighttalk
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Will the Verizon droid DNA work on straight talk?
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Answer to this question is yes, The HTC DNA Verizon is CDMA Capable as well as Global GSM. I had My HTC DNA Flashed to Verizon side of Straighttalk about 8 months ago, around thanksgivin. It is on the verizon side of striaghttlak, I get FAST 3G speeds, no 4g but I can live with that for $45 A month. Im not sure how or the policy of sharing links on this website/forum but here is the place who flashed my HTC DNA, And they also flashed 2 other model phones for me as well, they had pretty fair prices also...
The phone # to text to get this done is 231 327 2601 they have a website also but I cannot remember the link or name.
I can't decide which should I choose. dna or butterfly. all I need is better dev support in xda.
I visited on both dna and on butterfly forums and found that htc dna has much better dev support then butterfly.
the problem is I live in india here htc launched butterfly but badly butterfly has very less support in xda.
suppose if I managed to buy dna from USA and then ship to india later then all gsm sim cards will work or not because I read somewhere dna is carrier based by verizon.
exynoss said:
I can't decide which should I choose. dna or butterfly. all I need is better dev support in xda.
I visited on both dna and on butterfly forums and found that htc dna has much better dev support then butterfly.
the problem is I live in india here htc launched butterfly but badly butterfly has very less support in xda.
suppose if I managed to buy dna from USA and then ship to india later then all gsm sim cards will work or not because I read somewhere dna is carrier based by verizon.
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all gsm network in india works with dna. i am using it with airtel. only you need setup apn manually for 3g.
exynoss said:
I can't decide which should I choose. dna or butterfly. all I need is better dev support in xda.
I visited on both dna and on butterfly forums and found that htc dna has much better dev support then butterfly.
the problem is I live in india here htc launched butterfly but badly butterfly has very less support in xda.
suppose if I managed to buy dna from USA and then ship to india later then all gsm sim cards will work or not because I read somewhere dna is carrier based by verizon.
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It all depends on which features you really want. To me I really like wireless charging, that's why I choose DNA. I'm from Taiwan, it works fine with any carriers that we have here so don't worry about sim cards unless you want to have LTE working.
If you want to root your device, think twice before you get DNA cause that's the biggest problem now for those DNA with latest verizon firmware.
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all gsm network in india works with dna. i am using it with airtel. only you need setup apn manually for 3g.
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check pm please
shajubinglish said:
all gsm network in india works with dna. i am using it with airtel. only you need setup apn manually for 3g.
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With few roms u don't even have to set apn as well . It's done automatically.
Iam using DNA with Vodafone 3G in New Delhi.
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exynoss said:
I can't decide which should I choose. dna or butterfly. all I need is better dev support in xda.
I visited on both dna and on butterfly forums and found that htc dna has much better dev support then butterfly.
the problem is I live in india here htc launched butterfly but badly butterfly has very less support in xda.
suppose if I managed to buy dna from USA and then ship to india later then all gsm sim cards will work or not because I read somewhere dna is carrier based by verizon.
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Get the damn DNA bro. U won't regret it
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