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So, I've rooted my phone a couple weeks ago and I've been messing around with different roms and kernels and I thought the reason my phone was crashing at above 748mhz was because of the kernel or rom I had. I've been reading around though and I read that some phones simply can't OC stably like others. Does this mean if my phone crashes a ton at 806mhz and quite a bit at 768mhz that my phone simply can't OC that high? Are there methods to improve my phones OC stability?
Yes that means your phone can't handle that high clocked speeds. Just keep trying to find a stable clock speed. You will probably not find a big difference between 748 or 806.
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There are no methods to improve OC stability (AFAIK ). Don't try to OC more than what ur phone can handle.
You can always try other tips from our forum to make ur phone more responsive
alright thanks for the input guess my phones processor was made in Ethiopia
Kryptonite1371 said:
alright thanks for the input guess my phones processor was made in Ethiopia
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try 729/480
should work without crashing
hey guys i install custom karnel on my xpera mini...now i can overclock up to 2 ghz..i just wanted to know pros and cons of overclocking..
pros- increased speed and less lagging,
cons- short battery time, increased temprature.
Is it possible to underclock it to get more battery or shelf life from the phone?
we can overclock and underclock if we install custom karnel..
wynradaure said:
Is it possible to underclock it to get more battery or shelf life from the phone?
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Yeah. Root your phone, and install SetCpu, and you can Underclock freely and thus save lots of battery
akshay13071990 said:
hey guys i install custom karnel on my xpera mini...now i can overclock up to 2 ghz..i just wanted to know pros and cons of overclocking..
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Overclock will give you temporary boosts and lets you to showoff, and to get super high benchmark scores , but its not for regular use
Overclocking reduces battery performance and increases heating of device, which might cause your device to get unstable
and of course high temp = bad for the hardware so be careful
My SE mini works very well at 1610 Mhz.No crash,no instability but I use high frequency for max 2-3 hours or when I want to play without lagging
Pros
Immensely fast speed
Massive score on Quadrant
No lag or crashes
Cons
Battery life goes down fast
Phone temp goes up - Massive problem
Phone might get bricked if the phone gets unstable (Happened to my friend)
I only overclock my phone whenever I play games or need to switch between apps constantly. Though I always keep on 1024 as that is the default setting
Recently I overclocked to 2ghz was chkin stability and gosh I burned my battery, its workin but fone keeps restarting n I had to buy new one!! Dis is d con
Pro: faster n better performance!!
Overclock can cuz serious damage too!! But its fine to showoff a lil but in controlled envionment for a short tym!
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Overclocking is not actually advisable because there are chances that it will affect your phone and might screw it up in the long run .
Battery drain is inevitable and you will experience it .
Phone will heat up
It may not be good for the other internal components because of the over heat-unlike computers a mobile is not actually equipped with much of cooling system.
There is a good reason why the manufacturer has set a clock speed ,otherwise isn't it better for them to just overclock a phone and sell it for a higher price ?
People who design the custom kernels are just telling the maximum possible value they could overclock to.
Pros-
Bigger numbers
Little more faster performance
it recommended to not overclock always..just overclock when you really need it..
What are peoples thoughts on a modest overclock to bring me back up to the performance I am used to?
Say taking an ACTIVE up to 1300 or so.
With these new NON-OC kernels, are they undervolted? I have seen claims of absolutely massive battery life and I'm reasonably sure some of those were using cpu throttling and an overclock.
So confused at this point. Also heard some of the newer ACTIVE handsets cannot even be rooted.
bandario said:
What are peoples thoughts on a modest overclock to bring me back up to the performance I am used to?
Say taking an ACTIVE up to 1300 or so.
With these new NON-OC kernels, are they undervolted? I have seen claims of absolutely massive battery life and I'm reasonably sure some of those were using cpu throttling and an overclock.
So confused at this point. Also heard some of the newer ACTIVE handsets cannot even be rooted.
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As in most things if you not overdo it you can enjoy the benefits of better performance without risking your phone.My xperia mini is running up to 1200 (1024 stock). Also minimum speed 122 instead of 245.So better performance when you need it and lower consumption when phone is sleeping.Overall i got the same battery life, 2-3 days as with stock rom.The best thing to do is get an app that lets you make profiles.Like when screen is off min cpu 122 - max cpu 384 etc...
I don't know about these new kernels you're talking about but cpu throttling is something stock kernels do also (if by cpu throttling you mean cpu speed adjustment)
I have noticed that whenever i play heavy 3d games, my cpu only runs at 800 mhz..even though the scaling is from 200-1200 mhz. First i thought it was a problem with a specific game(The dark knight rises), but now i tried Mass effect infiltrator too..same thing happens..
I wouldnt have bothered too much but i get some fps drops..i expect 'smooth as a butter' experience from S2..which i aint getting..while playing 3d games..
Some one might argue that maybe the game requires only 800 mhz to run..but i seriously doubt it..in 3d applications(heavy) , the processor should be used at higher frequencies. Also, i tried scaling my cpu from 1000-1200 mhz, but still while playing games, the cpu goes back to 800 mhz lol..
Please someone explain this and also Try it on your device..do u notice the same results while playing a heavy 3d game?
I tried running stock kernel as well as siyah 3.3.2. getting same results on both.. tried different governers too..but same thing
I am on neatlite rom currently..could it be the rom thats the culprit?
Please someone do help me, i am getting frustrated with my S2 lol..
thanks
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I have noticed that whenever i play heavy 3d games, my cpu only runs at 800 mhz..even though the scaling is from 200-1200 mhz. First i thought it was a problem with a specific game(The dark knight rises), but now i tried Mass effect infiltrator too..same thing happens..
I wouldnt have bothered too much but i get some fps drops..i expect 'smooth as a butter' experience from S2..which i aint getting..while playing 3d games..
Some one might argue that maybe the game requires only 800 mhz to run..but i seriously doubt it..in 3d applications(heavy) , the processor should be used at higher frequencies. Also, i tried scaling my cpu from 1000-1200 mhz, but still while playing games, the cpu goes back to 800 mhz lol..
Please someone explain this and also Try it on your device..do u notice the same results while playing a heavy 3d game?
I tried running stock kernel as well as siyah 3.3.2. getting same results on both.. tried different governers too..but same thing
I am on neatlite rom currently..could it be the rom thats the culprit?
Please someone do help me, i am getting frustrated with my S2 lol..
thanks
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for ur 'Smooth as Butter' experience with 3d gaming, i would suggest u to flash a stock official ICS firmware and then see for the same
It would be really great if anyone could just verify it on their device too? Just run some good heavy 3d game..and look at the cpu usage..would be a lot appreciated
thanks again
COmeon anyone?? Please reply and let me know how is the game and cpu behaviour in your devices..am really worried coz of this issue...
Why don't you use apps like setcpu and clock your processor at 1200mhz max and say 1000mhz min?
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UltimateAnas said:
Why don't you use apps like setcpu and clock your processor at 1200mhz max and say 1000mhz min?
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If you noticed my post properly...i did try scaling from 1000-1200..but still the processor goes down to 800 mhz...
It only happens with heavy 3d games( which ironically require the processor the most)
2d games run at 1200 mhz but not the 3d ones lol..:|
Sorry! Try using chainfire's 3D app for the S2, install the drivers and see what happens then?
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It could be due to smooth scaling setting bug from earlier siyah kernel, or throttling due to cpu temperature.
Try flash the latest siyah kernel and set smooth scaling level to 1200mhz.
i have set smooth scaling to 1200 mhz.. and yeh i guess it could be the throtling issue but why is it happening?
I mean i can run a 2d game like mutant roadkill on 1200mhz but when i try to run heavy 3d games..they just run at 800 mhz..
I did read bout this throttling issue to 800mhz but what can i do to avoid it? The phone doesnt get too hot either though..
Hi I'm running at 1600mhz on my galaxy note (stock is 1400) everything is running damn fast thumbs up.... But every single time I load a game which contains heavy 3d graphics then it goes down to 800mhz I just can't find a solution. Anyway running smoothly at 1600 just as long I don't play games.
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Hi I'm running at 1600mhz on my galaxy note (stock is 1400) everything is running damn fast thumbs up.... But every single time I load a game which contains heavy 3d graphics then it goes down to 800mhz I just can't find a solution. Anyway running smoothly at 1600 just as long I don't play games.
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wrong thread and wrong forum my friend this is for s2
also, perhaps you should use setCPU to check some clock settings
I just tried infiltrator, and my device uses highest 1200mhz normally, so i guess it must be kernel/rom related. I'm running rr 2.6.1 with latest dorimanx 5.67 kernel. It might be something about neat rom that prevents your device from using max clock, since neat rom is very battery friendly, but i'm not sure... would be nice if someone using the same rom as you could try and confirm.
now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
blackbass595 said:
now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
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1800 is a VERY good starting point.... I ran a kernel when I had the International variant and it was FAST!! I think it was called "Bullet" kernel...?
blackbass595 said:
now hat we're unlocked lets overclock and undervolt and see if we can get 10k quadrant and a week out of the battery..lol
no but seriously how much do you guys think we can turn this thing up (overclock) and it be stable? (like its really needed..i cant get it to lag now as it is) once we get a kernel that is
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I was looking stuff up on that today. The highest I could find documented was 1900 on the cpu and 800 on the gpu.
For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
imnuts said:
For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
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hey thats good to know...like i stated though. if there ever was a phone that needed over clock this one IS NOT it. i cant bog it down right now and believe me ive tried. someone out there might can but i cant.
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For everyday usage, overclocking is useless, even for gaming. Undervolting can be beneficial, but from what I've seen, the latest processors get approximately the same battery life on stock voltage as they do undervolted.
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I just like to play around with different kernels but the kernel I was using def made the device snappier and I had some killer benchmarks! But you are right though! Custom kernels on this device is not really necessary...
I plan on building a custom kernel then, hopefully tomorrow night or possibly Saturday. I do have some plans to improve it, but nothing related to the CPU or GPU going faster, just having other stuff operate better and getting rid of anything not needed.
shojus said:
1800 is a VERY good starting point.... I ran a kernel when I had the International variant and it was FAST!! I think it was called "Bullet" kernel...?
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I hope I don't get another lemon CPU... my TBolt's would only overclock to 1.4G, anything above and it locked up.
DaWolf850 said:
I hope I don't get another lemon CPU... my TBolt's would only overclock to 1.4G, anything above and it locked up.
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That's better than me. I could run 1200 for weeks but at 1400 about every other day it would restart randomly.
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That's better than me. I could run 1200 for weeks but at 1400 about every other day it would restart randomly.
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HA. My TBolt stayed stable at 1200, but ANYTHING higher than that and it would crap out on me.
I could run my bolt stable at 1700 all day. Kept it at 14 for a month no issues. Stayed at 13 the rest of the time. Course at 17 it was like it was running on a watch battery with the amount of time it would last. Lol
Eh I ran 1.6Ghz on my Thunderbolt 24/7 and with the 2750mah battery it lasted me days.
On a phone like that there was a significant improvement to the end user that justified the overclock. Now on the Note 2 I'd expect there to be very few who would want an overclock at all. I am part of the very few however. I play a lot of emulators on my phone and for N64 and Playstation I need all the raw CPU power I can get. Yep, even on this beast of a phone I still get some lag and stuttering on those emulators. The reason being is the same as PC gaming. AMD thinks that by adding more and more cores to their processors they can win the performance arena. Unfortunately they are wrong. Intel has the right idea, 4 cores is plenty now let's improve the efficiency and performance of those specific cores.
Same goes for our phones. Quad core is the most I'd ever want in my computers, anymore is just a waste. Now let's get better architecture for the processor to maximize clock-for-clock performance. And overclocking those cores helps it in apps that don't support more than one or two cores, because the baseline performance for each core is boosted.
So yeah, can't wait for a 1.8Ghz kernel
hello guys im new here and i want to ask how far... the CPU can Overclock without Risk... and i know that a safe O.C is 1.7GHz but use 1.89GHz is good? and how far the Phone is goiing to handle this and the life of the Phone? as i know overlock a Video CArd,CPU can make more short the life of the Device... so is the same with this phone? i know the The Qualcom CPU is 1.5GHz but the normal Speed is 1.7GHz... i dont know why HTC DOWN CLOCK THE CPU... if the CPU can Handle 1.72GHz
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hello guys im new here and i want to ask how far... the CPU can Overclock without Risk... and i know that a safe O.C is 1.7GHz but use 1.89GHz is good? and how far the Phone is goiing to handle this and the life of the Phone? as i know overlock a Video CArd,CPU can make more short the life of the Device... so is the same with this phone? i know the The Qualcom CPU is 1.5GHz but the normal Speed is 1.7GHz... i dont know why HTC DOWN CLOCK THE CPU... if the CPU can Handle 1.72GHz
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I'm not sure how far you can OC this device, but the reason they usually underclock slightly is twofold, heat and battery life. The higher the CPU clock speed, the more heat generated, and the lower the battery life.
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I'm not sure how far you can OC this device, but the reason they usually underclock slightly is twofold, heat and battery life. The higher the CPU clock speed, the more heat generated, and the lower the battery life.
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ok thanks bro
It is completely device dependent. Some people could be unstable at 1.7 while others could be fine at 1.89.
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What are you guys using to OC? Any app on the market or is there an HTC prefered app?
SetCPU is probably the most popular and to be 100% honest Overclocking is harmful to these devices there is a reason why HTC decided to place the clock speed at 1.5GHz... there isnt enough cooling provided to really push it past the limits but to each thier own I guess... Ive done it before and I really havent found it to increase the overall usage to my device... I had my old phone OC'd to 1890MHz and the only thing that changed was the benchmark numbers the normal day to day stuff still stayed the same like switching between apps and what not...
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SetCPU is probably the most popular and to be 100% honest Overclocking is harmful to these devices there is a reason why HTC decided to place the clock speed at 1.5GHz... there isnt enough cooling provided to really push it past the limits but to each thier own I guess... Ive done it before and I really havent found it to increase the overall usage to my device... I had my old phone OC'd to 1890MHz and the only thing that changed was the benchmark numbers the normal day to day stuff still stayed the same like switching between apps and what not...
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I agree with that. I'm mostly interested in lowering the CPU speed for better battery life. Was curious of what everyone was using. I currently have the NoFrills CPU Control app. Although it is very basic, it does the trick. I've been running 1ghz max and battery life has greatly increased. If I feel the need for speed, I just set it back to 1.5ghz. As you said, I haven't found a need to go beyond that.
Same here, OCing increased benchmark scores but no noticeable difference when using it. And when it got hot (really fast when OCing and benchmarking) the thermal protection pulled the reins in and scores plummeted.
You just need to get rid of the bloat and unused services, or install a slimmed down rom.
Kernal to use for OC?
Im running [ROM] DNA Super Stock 2.06.605.1_710R v1.0 4/24/13
is there a kernal I can flash to OC my DNA? i tried to change my cpu Mhz but it wont budge
I want to use this rom: [17.01][DNA/X920D/E][ROM][GSM][GLOBAL] Virtuous DNA+ v.2.0.0 [Sense 4+ / OC / Stable]
--but it doesnt support VZW
thanks
Chenzo57 said:
Im running [ROM] DNA Super Stock 2.06.605.1_710R v1.0 4/24/13
is there a kernal I can flash to OC my DNA? i tried to change my cpu Mhz but it wont budge
I want to use this rom: [17.01][DNA/X920D/E][ROM][GSM][GLOBAL] Virtuous DNA+ v.2.0.0 [Sense 4+ / OC / Stable]
--but it doesnt support VZW
thanks
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Beastmode Kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021714