[Q] Windows Phone 8 on Lumia 800 ? - Nokia Lumia 800

So, now we have WP 7.8 working perfectly on the Lumia 800 (I just flashed the ROM myself yesterday and it's working perfectly!).
How are the prospects of gaining WP8 on the Lumia 800?
I know that it will not be able to use SD-cards and all that, but that's okay.
We need a ROM running WP8 on the Lumia 800 in my view. Anybody agree...?

It has a complete different Kernel
but it is possible, but nokia wont be the first
the better open HTC would be the pioneers

Pretty much no chance of this happening sadly.
DFT and Cotulla in particular are working on porting WP8 to the HD2 but it is very experimental and doesn't work properly. It also has to boot from an SD card (which the Lumia 800 doesn't have) as it doesn't work from internal NAND.
Even if they get it working well on the HD2 it will only be because they know that device extremely well. Considering that we haven't even been able to unlock the bootloader without a hardware solution, the prospect of WP8 on the Lumia 610/710/800/900 is non-existent really.
In other words, make the most of 7.8, enjoy your Lumia 800 and see what new phones come out in the future to upgrade to

i also didnt saw lumia micro SD cards which were hidden like on HTC devices
but the bootloader of lumia 710 is unlocked and the 800 with ATF

It is possible for the lumias with unlocked bootloader..
Even android can be ported to lumias with unlocked bootloader..
But there must be a good devloper...
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pLUSpISTOL said:
It also has to boot from an SD card (which the Lumia 800 doesn't have) as it doesn't work from internal NAND.
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Actually this isn't quite correct. The Lumia 800 doesn't have NAND, and neither do any WP8 devices. I am sure you will find the HD2 has to boot from an SD card because it has a 512MB NAND chip which a) isn't big enough and b) not supported in the NT kernel. a is not a problem in the Lumia as the 800 has 16GB of internal storage, b also isn't cause we do not have NAND but rather eMMC which is an embedded SD card that is supported in every windows phone 7+8 device plus Windows RT.
However I don't see it being shoehorned onto our devices as it will only work on devices with the Qualcomm loader and will require some serious dev work.

lilstevie said:
Actually this isn't quite correct. The Lumia 800 doesn't have NAND, and neither do any WP8 devices. I am sure you will find the HD2 has to boot from an SD card because it has a 512MB NAND chip which a) isn't big enough and b) not supported in the NT kernel. a is not a problem in the Lumia as the 800 has 16GB of internal storage, b also isn't cause we do not have NAND but rather eMMC which is an embedded SD card that is supported in every windows phone 7+8 device plus Windows RT.
However I don't see it being shoehorned onto our devices as it will only work on devices with the Qualcomm loader and will require some serious dev work.
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actally, techically spoken, that is eNAND
more info here
http://www.hynix.com/mail/newsletter_2011_01/eng/sub02.html

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[Q] Windows Phone 7 running from SD like android?

Ive searched google and XDA however i have not found a definitive answer to this.
is there a way to run windows phone 7 from the sd card, the way we currently run android.
i would love to test out win7 but i dont want to have to lose the ability to switch to android when i get sick of windows (which is inevitable).
dude, how can you run windows 7 from an SD card when there is hardly a windows 7 phone out in the world at all?
if windows phone is ever available to the hd2, it'll be a full rom and not an sd card option

Using the Atrix as a boot device

just wondering if any smart devs have any thoughts on this:
When the Atrix (or i suppose any android device) is in usb storage mode it runs as a simple mass storage device.
So is it possible to boot a PC from the atrix like you would boot a portable OS (Ubuntu, WinPE, ect) from a USB flash drive?
The SD card or the Internal storage has the room for it, but i don't know how you'd go about making either a bootable device.
It'd be a good diagnostic tool when fixing PCs, and along with webtop would make it a awesome tool to use as a tech.
cglowstick said:
just wondering if any smart devs have any thoughts on this:
When the Atrix (or i suppose any android device) is in usb storage mode it runs as a simple mass storage device.
So is it possible to boot a PC from the atrix like you would boot a portable OS (Ubuntu, WinPE, ect) from a USB flash drive?
The SD card or the Internal storage has the room for it, but i don't know how you'd go about making either a bootable device.
It'd be a good diagnostic tool when fixing PCs, and along with webtop would make it a awesome tool to use as a tech.
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I was thinking about this actually.
I think we have to first partion the SD card and install the portable OS on one of those partions.
I don't have an atrix yet but I'm going to try something with my older phone I think I can make this work just give me sometime.
Any luck with this?
I plan on trying GParted (free GUI disk partition editor)... http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
It offers quite an array of filesystem options including, but not limited to:
ext2 / ext3 / ext4
fat16 / fat32
linux-swap
ntfs
ufs
xfs
I'm not sure if my rooted AT&T Atrix will reject my attempts to create an ntfs partition, or if GParted will even recognize it. But it's still worth a try
Bob

[Q] how to install app manually in Lumia 920

well, as we all know by now, WP8 now supports installing .xap file manually...via SD card
so how can we do it with our L920 which doesnt hav sd card?
Can't, according to Paul Thurrott. I was hoping for a way too.....
can we do it via USB otg somehow...?

[Q] Super slow file transfers over USB

I only use the internal memory on my Rezound, not a removable micro-SD card. Prior to rooting and installing a custom ROM, copying large files to the phone by USB was pretty quick. That was with ICS and I understand that since Android 4.2.2 you can only connect by MTP or mass storage mode. But now copying files TO the internal storage is extremely slow (about 1.4 MB/second). It's not the cable itself, as copying files FROM the internal storage to the computer goes quick, like it used to. Could the internal memory be formatted improperly? The drivers for the phone on my Win 7 computer (64 bit) looked like generic Microsoft USB drivers, but when I tried to update with drivers made available with the HTC Sync app, Windows didn't allow it, saying the drivers it was using were the most current. Copying from the computer to other USB devices like flash memory sticks is quick and fine, like always. Thanks for any help.
teamost said:
I only use the internal memory on my Rezound, not a removable micro-SD card. Prior to rooting and installing a custom ROM, copying large files to the phone by USB was pretty quick. That was with ICS and I understand that since Android 4.2.2 you can only connect by MTP or mass storage mode. But now copying files TO the internal storage is extremely slow (about 1.4 MB/second). It's not the cable itself, as copying files FROM the internal storage to the computer goes quick, like it used to. Could the internal memory be formatted improperly? The drivers for the phone on my Win 7 computer (64 bit) looked like generic Microsoft USB drivers, but when I tried to update with drivers made available with the HTC Sync app, Windows didn't allow it, saying the drivers it was using were the most current. Copying from the computer to other USB devices like flash memory sticks is quick and fine, like always. Thanks for any help.
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MTP uses the generic Microsoft drivers, it just looks like a media (player/camera) device to the computer, HTC sync drivers are not used anymore for normal file transfers.
What ROM are you using? Have you tried multiple ones with the same result?
acejavelin said:
MTP uses the generic Microsoft drivers, it just looks like a media (player/camera) device to the computer, HTC sync drivers are not used anymore for normal file transfers.
What ROM are you using? Have you tried multiple ones with the same result?
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Right now it's the LiquidSmooth v3.2, and earlier in the week I was trying the most recent Tachyon (4.3.1). When I was using Tachyon, I had a problem where the internal storage was not visible or useable. It showed up again after the wipe in preparation for the LS install.
I'm also perplexed because my battery life is pretty bad, which is in contrast to what most people say about LS v3.2. I'm a noob and wonder if I could have missed a subtle step or setting, even though I have spent lots of time reading, studying, prepping and learning. I don't actually use this Rezound as a phone, it's just a learning project and I use it as a standalone media player and occasional email/browser situation on wifi.
Thank you.
teamost said:
Right now it's the LiquidSmooth v3.2, and earlier in the week I was trying the most recent Tachyon (4.3.1). When I was using Tachyon, I had a problem where the internal storage was not visible or useable. It showed up again after the wipe in preparation for the LS install.
I'm also perplexed because my battery life is pretty bad, which is in contrast to what most people say about LS v3.2. I'm a noob and wonder if I could have missed a subtle step or setting, even though I have spent lots of time reading, studying, prepping and learning. I don't actually use this Rezound as a phone, it's just a learning project and I use it as a standalone media player and occasional email/browser situation on wifi.
Thank you.
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The internal storage gets weird sometimes on newer ROMs... if a wipe returned it you are probably all right, a "wipe" also does a format. You would probably be safe to go back to Tachyon if you wish... Always wipe twice all partitions, and I would recommend using a microSD card, most ROMs expect to see both internal and external storage, even if it is just a small 4GB or 8GB card. I have not heard of people specifically mentioning MTP transfers being that slow, but it is definitely slower than standard direct mount access as was used in ICS and prior Android versions.
Battery life on the Rezound has always been bad by comparison to other devices, 1.5 to 2 hours screen time is about the best it can do on a standard battery in nearly new condition. Since you are using it without mobile data service activated, make sure to disable mobile data.
Also, I would recommend going S-OFF... Rezounds seem to be dying lately due to failed internal storage, if you are S-ON there is often no recovery option to restore service, when S-OFF we have more options. I recommend using Rumrunner S-OFF (Google it, it's easy to find), make sure to do a backup in recovery before hand since the process often makes the phone unbootable after it is initially complete.

Help with the installation/cloning

Hello,
I've been using quite satisfied an X96 max plus 4/32 TV box for the past 1.5 years.
I have CE 9.2.something on it. Entered some API keys for YouTube etc. It's working nice.
Now I bought another, exact same device and I wouldn't like to repeat the whole configuring process, since it takes a lot of effort and reading, cause I don't do it everyday, but there are some issues/questions.
1. It just doesn't boot CE from a new microSD card, all I get is an android recovery menu.
2. from USB stick, it boots with CE without problems.
3. I managed to boot now from the working microSD card from the old device somehow, but it still doesn't work with the new microSD.
4. Since it's fine with USB, it should be fine with the microSD, too.
Is there a way to have it boot from microSD?
Is there a way to clone the working microSD to the other one, OR putting the working CE on the ROM without loosing my old system from the card and have it boot from the device itself?
Is there a way to clone the working microSD to the bootable USB stick and then putting it on the ROM for good and have it boot from the device itself? <- this might be the easiest option.
Can someone please help?
Thank you in advance.

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