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That sounds like I'm being a prick but I'm just trying to learn. I didn't find what I was looking for on Google but a friend suggested xda. I'm coming from a nexus and my wife has the iphone4. Now the I4 is a "retina display" with many more pixels than android phones and its I will concede that I can't see a pixel on its screen. As far as text and application icons and any lines in the UI, they are like nothing I've seen from a phone or even a desktop. I find it troubling that we haven't heard rumors about nice displays for upcoming androids. But the vibrant has a superamoled, what I do know is that I can easily see pixels in every image I look at, but android phones like this are at most just 800x480 so I guess its a given that the UI and text and lines and images in all applications will be fuzzy? And so where does the Super come in to play? Contrary to what i was told the vibrants display definitely doesn't look any better than my nexus which isn't really bad because the nexus absolutely has a respectable display. The one difference I've seen is that avatar looks very good on the vibrant. I had avatar downloaded on my nexus it was a 720p version and it became pixelated with lots of movement. Not so the vibrant. I noticed the vibrant skips or sort of hiccups during heavy action scenes which I'm guessing is reflective of the processor? But the picture looks good. So is superamoled strictly for media? I guess if it had decent resolution the UI would look slick like the iphone4 regardless the display being amoled samoled lcd slcd or whatever right? So i shouldnt expect that the SAMOLED is supposed to make the UI in general look particularly good is that correct? I realize it seems dumb but the only thing that looks a bit better than my old nexus is watching certain movies. The vibrant has a great processor and a super amoled. Can anyone explain some of the practical benefits of the vibrants hardware?
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That sounds like I'm being a prick but I'm just trying to learn. I didn't find what I was looking for on Google but a friend suggested xda. I'm coming from a nexus and my wife has the iphone4. Now the I4 is a "retina display" with many more pixels than android phones and its I will concede that I can't see a pixel on its screen. As far as text and application icons and any lines in the UI, they are like nothing I've seen from a phone or even a desktop. I find it troubling that we haven't heard rumors about nice displays for upcoming androids. But the vibrant has a superamoled, what I do know is that I can easily see pixels in every image I look at, but android phones like this are at most just 800x480 so I guess its a given that the UI and text and lines and images in all applications will be fuzzy? And so where does the Super come in to play? Contrary to what i was told the vibrants display definitely doesn't look any better than my nexus which isn't really bad because the nexus absolutely has a respectable display. The one difference I've seen is that avatar looks very good on the vibrant. I had avatar downloaded on my nexus it was a 720p version and it became pixelated with lots of movement. Not so the vibrant. I noticed the vibrant skips or sort of hiccups during heavy action scenes which I'm guessing is reflective of the processor? But the picture looks good. So is superamoled strictly for media? I guess if it had decent resolution the UI would look slick like the iphone4 regardless the display being amoled samoled lcd slcd or whatever right? So i shouldnt expect that the SAMOLED is supposed to make the UI in general look particularly good is that correct? I realize it seems dumb but the only thing that looks a bit better than my old nexus is watching certain movies. The vibrant has a great processor and a super amoled. Can anyone explain some of the practical benefits of the vibrants hardware?
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samoled is better than the iphone 4's retina display. its about the screen technology. its colors and the way it looks in direct sunlight,looks better than the n1 & i4. although the i4 has a higher res doesnt eqaute to a better screen. vibrant has a better gpu than the i4 and better than any android out. the hardware on the vibrant is ahead of its time. 45n processor, 90million triangles per second by the gpu. all in all retina display focuses on pixels, while super amoled focuses on color and qaulity. vibrant and the galaxy s line are the best phones out hardware wise. not software wise. and by that i mean touchwiz and that rfs system.
I haven't been able to find any hardware specs...is the SAMOLED capable of higher resolution?
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I haven't been able to find any hardware specs...is the SAMOLED capable of higher resolution?
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http://www.google.com/m?gl=us&sourc...moled&ei=je3WTLDFN5yoqAPPxc5y&ved=0CEEQ1QIoBw
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http://www.google.com/m?gl=us&sourc...moled&ei=je3WTLDFN5yoqAPPxc5y&ved=0CEEQ1QIoBw
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Lol
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samoled is better than the iphone 4's retina display. its about the screen technology. its colors and the way it looks in direct sunlight,looks better than the n1 & i4. although the i4 has a higher res doesnt eqaute to a better screen. vibrant has a better gpu than the i4 and better than any android out. the hardware on the vibrant is ahead of its time. 45n processor, 90million triangles per second by the gpu. all in all retina display focuses on pixels, while super amoled focuses on color and qaulity. vibrant and the galaxy s line are the best phones out hardware wise. not software wise. and by that i mean touchwiz and that rfs system.
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Thanks, it a shame the pixels are so noticeable and blurry. This phones got hardware that could've kept me happy for at least a couple years. I watch a decent amount of media so I appreciate that aspect of the hardware. But even more I'm using the UI and the browesr and constantly seeing my wife's I4 really makes the fuzziness of the vibrant stand out. Samsung has media well in hand but everything revolves around the UI so persoanlly I'm impatiently waiting for a crisp I4-like UI. I would imagine higher Res is on deck, 800x480 has been done to death. I'm glad the iPhone exists be wise the competition benefits us, I just hate this period of waiting to catch up with what I consider a major portion of the OS. Especially since I use my wife's phone so often (T-Mobile doesn't work in many places like att does) its tough going from the iPhones perfect lines to my jagged blurry ones. But like I've read other people here explain., I'd have no idea how bad 800x480 is if I hadn't seen the 960x640 retina display. So really its my wife's fault : )
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Thanks, it a shame the pixels are so noticeable and blurry. This phones got hardware that could've kept me happy for at least a couple years. I watch a decent amount of media so I appreciate that aspect of the hardware. But even more I'm using the UI and the browesr and constantly seeing my wife's I4 really makes the fuzziness of the vibrant stand out. Samsung has media well in hand but everything revolves around the UI so persoanlly I'm impatiently waiting for a crisp I4-like UI. I would imagine higher Res is on deck, 800x480 has been done to death. I'm glad the iPhone exists be wise the competition benefits us, I just hate this period of waiting to catch up with what I consider a major portion of the OS. Especially since I use my wife's phone so often (T-Mobile doesn't work in many places like att does) its tough going from the iPhones perfect lines to my jagged blurry ones. But like I've read other people here explain., I'd have no idea how bad 800x480 is if I hadn't seen the 960x640 retina display. So really its my wife's fault : )
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There are LCD density "fixes" if you're fixated on the resolution...
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samoled is an interesting tradeoff. for people that really like video and media, the sgs line is spectacular.
no offense to the guy that says, "samoled is better than retina" but... really? its glaringly obvious that text is blurry/less crisp on amoled and samoled displays. most people might not see this, but for those of us with good eyes it sticks out like a sore thumb.
the display on the motorola droid, iphone 4 and the new slcd's from htc are a lot more readable. sure, you dont have the fake ass super contrast that samsung is giving you, but its MUCH crisper. there is a superb article on arstechnica that points out the flaws of amoled displays.
all that said, i don't mind samoled on my samsung focus. i just don't go out and bash the iphone because it makes me feel better about my purchase. the display apple put on the iphone is an industry marvel, and if it was on an android phone everyone would be talking **** on apple instead of downplaying it. its so tiring reading these weak ass posts. have a good day
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if we get androids gingerbread this is what i heard.
"New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher".
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if we get androids gingerbread this is what i heard.
"New 1280×760 resolution available for the devices with displays of 4” and higher".
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our device isn't capable of that resolution. that would be for newer phones lol.
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our device isn't capable of that resolution. that would be for newer phones lol.
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oh ok thats just what i heard. hopefully we can get froyo soon or they should jump to the gingerbread update and skip froyo lol. just coming from the mytouch 4g with 2.2 froyo big difference for me from this 2.1 and the lag on this phone is a joke. but i did use the lag fix which helped a bit.
I have my atrix about a month ago.i already upgrade to 183.root also,2 days ago i buy optimus 2x,i'm very disapointed when i compare atrix lcd and optimus lcd,atrix lcd look so bad in picture quality.not so smooth like optimus,i think both atrix and optimus used same type lcd TFT CAPACITIVE LCD 16M colours,but why atrix lcd look so bad,can anybody give me some explanation?or maybe soft modif that can make my atrix lcd have same quality like my optimus,thx
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i have had both screens in front of me and i honestly cant understand where you are coming from. If you want the synthetic look samsung and lg would probably be your best choise. I like the natural look this phone has. Best screen i have ever had. Turn up that brightness ( the battery can definitely handle it) and you will see this screen shine. Not to down the lg or samsung, but they feel somewhat cartoony to me. Try the birghtness.
Looking at our phones in the store, the Atrix seems to out bright all the others without looking washed out. I do prefer the SAMOLED, but for battery sake, it's worth it to have the pentile qhd screen.
I look at www.gsmarena.com.both atrix and optimus use colored lcd TFT 16M.but in result,optimus has better quality picture.so what i'm talking about here is the same type of TFT LCD.THX
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There are multiple types of tft displays, tft is almost a category of displays. The atrix uses a pentile matrix type of tft, and the optimistic has an ips display, which is at a resolution of 800x400, while the atrix is at 960x540. I prefer the higher resolution of the atrix to the brightness of the optimus. And I'm pretty sure there's no way to tweak the atrix to look like the optimus.
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Due to extreme boredom at work I've decided to take a shot at a review. So here it is my official review of the Motorola Droid Razr.
After reading many bad reviews and going against my own initial choice of the HTC Rezound I decided to take a leap and pick up the Droid Razr. To say this phone is sharp is an understatement ( see what I did there? Sharp. Razr... Ok i'm done I swear) The phone is amazingly thin and very light weight. Some may find the phones width a little odd to hold but its something you get used to over time. One thing I found is that for a phone this thin the over all build quality is a step above the competition. The back is a soft touch piece of kevlar with a nice black and grey pattern. The screens glass is cut to look edged which adds a bit elegance to the shape. The screen is a very impressive quarter hd super amoled advanced screen made by Samsung. Colors are vibrant, contrast is amazing with blacks being jet black and not washed out like lcd screens. I find super amoled to be second to none on a mobile phone. Another note on the screen is that it is made of Gorilla glass. (check out peoples YouTube videos for scratch tests) lastly on the build of the phone is the splash resistant nano coating protecting the insides.... i'm not testing that lol. Motorola really went all out on the rebirth of the Razr. As for the software, I was worried about using a phone with Motoblur due to the fact that it used to slow down whatever phone it was on. Blur has been stripped down to a very subtle user interface that is very fast and manages to keep a considerable amount of eye candy. Like when you transition from screen to screen the widgets and icons gleam. Driving Android gingerbread version 2.3.5 (It will be getting 4.0 ice cream sandwich in early 2012) is a very fast 1.2ghz dual core processor and a full gigabyte of ram. As for storage you get 8 gigabytes of internal storage and a little under 3 gigabytes of application storage. The Razr includes a 16 gigabyte micro sd card for additional storage. Moving on to the camera, this is the other area reviewers knocked the phone. Yes in really low light it fails to take quality pictures. This is however a cell phone. Not a dslr camera. I found in adequate lighting the pictures were sharp and colors were accurate. The camera is also capable of recording full 1080p high definition. The front facing camera is a very nice 2 megapixel camera that can record or video chat in full 720p hd. I will be posting sample images to demonstrate. Another feature that seems to be coming standard on a lot of Motorola devices is a micro hdmi output which I frequently use for streaming Netflix on my hdtv. Last but not least is call quality and data connectivity. After all this is a phone first and foremost. Reception is probably the best I've ever gotten on a smart phone. I have yet to get no service or even dip to below 2 bars. This includes going inside places like Walmart. Calls come through loud and clear with almost no distortion and the speaker phone is loud and clear. As for data I get very good speeds on 3g and often don't bother using wifi which speaks a lot for the phone. To wrap up my review I have never been a fan of motorola and often had numerous issues with many models, however I can't deny they have some of the most solid phones build wise and they have redeemed themselves with the Droid Razr. If your holding onto a phone upgrade you won't regret getting the Razr. Only phone that I think will outshine it is the Galaxy Nexus. With the Rezound by HTC coming in a close second.
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Thanks for reading and look for my review of the Galaxy Nexus as soon as it gets a solid release date
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Great review! Just made the wait for mine that much longer
Thanks i'm really enjoying the razr. I bet with ICS the phone will be a beast. I'm going to try the nexus in a Verizon store and see if I really want to exchange my razr for it.
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I read that the battery cannot be removed. Would it be an issue? Because I'd like to buy a phone which I could use for some years and I'm afraid that the battery could eventually be a problem. I'm thinking about the SgsII and the Razr (I don't know if the nexus will be available in Chile) Maybe you could help me to decide (hope you're not a fanboy, and please no offense) Thanks for the review.
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I read that the battery cannot be removed. Would it be an issue? Because I'd like to buy a phone which I could use for some years and I'm afraid that the battery could eventually be a problem. I'm thinking about the SgsII and the Razr (I don't know if the nexus will be available in Chile) Maybe you could help me to decide (hope you're not a fanboy, and please no offense) Thanks for the review.
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S2's screen is terrible, low resolution, color bugs,... but S2 has a wide support community and seems smoother than Razr
Anyway, I like Razr's design, launcher UI and icons
actually I have to correct you on the S2 is bad. In fact I have both phones along with thinking about the Nexus.
The SG2 LTE I find is a great phone worked flawless from the day I bought it mostly keep it on haven't turned it off in like maybe 3 days and hasn't rebooted or powered off by itself. The screen they say is crap compared to the Razr, I have compared both I find the Razr Screen has more jaggies than the SG2. In fact the Screens are both made by Samsung and both are AMOLED. Motorola boasts that their screen is SuperAdvanceAmoled. To clairfy this AdvanceAmoled was abandoned by Samsung in favour or RGB stripe Amoled on the SG2. The Razr screen is comprised of RGBG pixels meaning there is an extra green pixel to make up an element. With this arrangement Motorola claims to have a higher resolution screen but fail to tell you that the actual pixel density isn't as high because of the use of 2 subpixels to display one element. This is my understanding you have to read on this based on Samsungs report of the Pentile display matrix. RGB stripe on the SG2 has a much cripser and more focused display than the pentile displays. So even at low resolution at 800x480 with a 4.5 inch display you would hardly notice the pixels unless you like using a magnifying glass to look at your display. The Nexus uses a Pentile display but a much newer version than what is used on the Razr. This display uses the Pentile matrix but with a much higher density and pixel count so you wouldn't see much pixelization but again how close to you actually look at your display. The truth is having a higher pixel density on a screen that is under 5 inches isn't going to matter much. Until you get to the 7 inch size then you'll start to notice the pixels I mean really how small do you want the text to be on a web page on a 4.5 inch screen or for that matter 4.3? I could barely make out text on the screen unless I actually magnify it a bit but then again I don't use one to view web pages. No bad display here and very happy with this phone SG2, seriously debating Nexus. After reading all the comments here about the Nexus I think I'll stay with the SG2 until they update it to ICS or until somethinb better comes out.
Don't get me wrong I like the Razr it has tons of great features software wise and hardware. The build quality is excellent based on the many devices I have had in the past. There is the drawback of non removable battery, but the slim design does make up for that. The camera is great and the autofocus smooth along with the video. One little issue I had was it was slow to switch from 2G to 3G or 4G when available. I find when I'm on 4G with 1 bar and it has to switch to 2G it actually shuts the network off and then connects back.
I'm sure most are correctable through software but there isn't enough to make the phone not worthy of consideration.
I have heard people say the pentile screens make edges look jagged etc. Is this true? I mean at something like 280+ppi I wouldn't think it would look jagged at all! Is it true?
It varies by device. I've not used a Note, but it should be similar to a Galaxy Nexus. The colors are visibly greener than the Super AMOLED+ (non-pentile) displays I've used, but the Nexus at least does not have the jagged edge issues that appear on the RAZR and some of the other qHD displays I've used. I don't know if it's because of the higher resolution/pixel density or some other property of the subpixel matrix, but I've never heard that particular criticism of a Note.
Not at this PPI.
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Not at this PPI.
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Agreed, only of you zoom in super super close on text.
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Also something to keep in mind is that pentile offers better outdoor performance and battery life
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Also something to keep in mind is that pentile offers better outdoor performance and battery life
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Just so I know, why is that?
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Just so I know, why is that?
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For the same reason people say it looks "bad" because it has less sub pixels so it will use less power. Though at this pixel density you would have to have a microscope because on my captivate you would have to be viewing red on black and be obnoxiously close to see it. Also it has better outdoor visibility because it can I believe get brighter then non pentile displays. For more info Google is amazing.
I have PenTile on my Photon 4G and while I can certainly see it, it doesn't bother me. When the brightness is turned way up you notice it more. I agree that at 1280x800 on a 5.3" display you're not going to notice it.
As others noted, PenTile RGBW has the advantage of offering more brightness for less power (due to the "W", I believe?) but it depends on the screen. The Droid 4 is PenTile, yet it is significantly darker than my Photon 4G (also PenTile) - both are Moto phones, so I was surprised by that difference. The Photon has the brightest, most outdoor-readable display (non-reflective) I have ever seen.
I can't recall reading anything other than "awesome" to describe the Note screen, though, so I think there's nothing to worry about here.
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I have PenTile on my Photon 4G and while I can certainly see it, it doesn't bother me. When the brightness is turned way up you notice it more. I agree that at 1280x800 on a 5.3" display you're not going to notice it.
As others noted, PenTile RGBW has the advantage of offering more brightness for less power (due to the "W", I believe?) but it depends on the screen. The Droid 4 is PenTile, yet it is significantly darker than my Photon 4G (also PenTile) - both are Moto phones, so I was surprised by that difference. The Photon has the brightest, most outdoor-readable display (non-reflective) I have ever seen.
I can't recall reading anything other than "awesome" to describe the Note screen, though, so I think there's nothing to worry about here.
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The brightness of a LCD screen (almost all Moto Droid phones are PenTile LCD) is determined by the backlite light source, not the screen pixel layout. To LCD screens, the power usage is constant regardless of the screen pixels on of off unless you can also turn the backlite light down.
AMOLED doesn't have a backlite light source. It depends on each pixels to emit light itself.
Yeah, I forgot that there are multiple PenTile layouts. Most Moto phones are RGBW, while the Note screen is RGBG, so it doesn't have the same outdoor visibility/brightness advantage.
Ok, I am reading all of these posts and EVERYONE for some reason or another thinks the Lumia 920 will have the best screen "by far". I think this is pure speculation and Nokia has you believing it will be the best. The only thing I can see that changed from any other device is they say it now runs at 60hz or the refresh rate is 60 and you can use it with gloves on so its super sensitive (which actually could end up being a flaw because it will be very easy to accidentally launch an app since anything that touches the screen will do it)
Have you guys that are saying it IS the best ever used a HTC One X screen? That screen is currently the best screen on any smartphone and I have a hard time believing that an IPS display with nokia's clearblack technology will beat the 8X screen because the 8X will be using the same exact Super LCD 2 screen that is found on the One X just with a smaller size and higher PPI.
I have used just about every device currently on the market and I can honestly tell you that the reviewers that have reviewed the One X are not incorrect when they almost always point out that the screen is the best they have ever seen on a mobile device. When comparing a One X next to my IPS display on my Nexus 7, the colors on the One X just pop and it really makes that IPS look bad. Also streaming a 720p mkv file from my NAS, the One X display blows the Nexus 7 away and all the other phones I have with Super Amoled HD or Super Amoled Plus screens.
I just wanna know what makes the Lumia the best? I think we have to see it in person to claim it is "the best screen by far"
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Ok, I am reading all of these posts and EVERYONE for some reason or another thinks the Lumia 920 will have the best screen "by far". I think this is pure speculation and Nokia has you believing it will be the best. The only thing I can see that changed from any other device is they say it now runs at 60hz or the refresh rate is 60 and you can use it with gloves on so its super sensitive (which actually could end up being a flaw because it will be very easy to accidentally launch an app since anything that touches the screen will do it)
Have you guys that are saying it IS the best ever used a HTC One X screen? That screen is currently the best screen on any smartphone and I have a hard time believing that an IPS display with nokia's clearblack technology will beat the 8X screen because the 8X will be using the same exact Super LCD 2 screen that is found on the One X just with a smaller size and higher PPI.
I have used just about every device currently on the market and I can honestly tell you that the reviewers that have reviewed the One X are not incorrect when they almost always point out that the screen is the best they have ever seen on a mobile device. When comparing a One X next to my IPS display on my Nexus 7, the colors on the One X just pop and it really makes that IPS look bad. Also streaming a 720p mkv file from my NAS, the One X display blows the Nexus 7 away and all the other phones I have with Super Amoled HD or Super Amoled Plus screens.
I just wanna know what makes the Lumia the best? I think we have to see it in person to claim it is "the best screen by far"
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Not only is the refresh rate higher removing motion blur (as much as you can), but it uses nokia clear black tech (look at the 800). On top of that it is the brightest screen on any mobile device (can be viewed in direct sunlight). Nokia screens rock even the 808 screen rocks and that has pathetic ppi as its Symbian so imagine what hd will look like.
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Not only is the refresh rate higher removing motion blur (as much as you can), but it uses nokia clear black tech (look at the 800). On top of that it is the brightest screen on any mobile device (can be viewed in direct sunlight). Nokia screens rock even the 808 screen rocks and that has pathetic ppi as its Symbian so imagine what hd will look like.
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Your statement about the brightness is incorrect. At max it is 600 nits (best case scenario), the motorola droid bionic is 635.6 nits so it is not the brightest screen on any mobile device. Also the HTC One X was over 500 nits anyway so the brightness argument is pretty irrelevant.
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I think we have to see it in person to claim it is "the best screen by far"
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This sums it up. We can't know if the 920 will have the better display or if the 8X will have the better display until we see both.
It's also quite funny that you complain about people claiming that a phone will have a better display than another when they haven't seen them, and then you go on to imply that the 8X will have the better display.
You state that the 920 has IPS as if that's a bad thing? And you base that entirely on the fact that the N7 has an IPS display and you don't like it? The N7 has a low quality IPS display, of course it doesn't look that impressive. If you knew anything about display tech you would know that high quality IPS displays are some of the best out there. Most high end monitors are IPS displays.
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This sums it up. We can't know if the 920 will have the better display or if the 8X will have the better display until we see both.
It's also quite funny that you complain about people claiming that a phone will have a better display than another when they haven't seen them, and then you go on to imply that the 8X will have the better display.
You state that the 920 has IPS as if that's a bad thing? And you base that entirely on the fact that the N7 has an IPS display and you don't like it? The N7 has a low quality IPS display, of course it doesn't look that impressive. If you knew anything about display tech you would know that high quality IPS displays are some of the best out there. Most high end monitors are IPS displays.
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I didn't imply the 8X will have the better display, im just sick of reading all over the place that the 920 has the superior display from people that haven't even touched a One X. I would love to see the 920 have the best display but I really see the LCD 2 screen hard to beat. The only place it falls short is Amoled Black levels.
I know not all IPS displays are as crappy as the Nexus 7, My Ipad 3 has a very good looking screen but I still think it falls a little short compared to the screen the One X offers.
We will just have to wait and see, people should dismiss this claim of the 920 having the best display. Without tech sites being able to do a side by side comparison with both device in hand we can't claim WE know which has the best display.
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Your statement about the brightness is incorrect. At max it is 600 nits (best case scenario), the motorola droid bionic is 635.6 nits so it is not the brightest screen on any mobile device. Also the HTC One X was over 500 nits anyway so the brightness argument is pretty irrelevant.
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I don't know anything about the Droid Bionic tbf you may be correct there, I also am not saying for fact as you said you have to see them in the flesh. Its the same with any spec on an unreleased product. We go by what is reported and compare that to the next and draw conclusions from that and from all the evidence as I said above it is fair to sy the lumia will have a better screen.
"It's 25% brighter than the next brightest smartphone display on the market" quote from Nokia, as I said it may be wrong I am just going on what is available. Also though not the 25% claimed 500 is about 83.3% of 600, that's still quite a jump.
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I didn't imply the 8X will have the better display, im just sick of reading all over the place that the 920 has the superior display from people that haven't even touched a One X. I would love to see the 920 have the best display but I really see the LCD 2 screen hard to beat. The only place it falls short is Amoled Black levels.
I know not all IPS displays are as crappy as the Nexus 7, My Ipad 3 has a very good looking screen but I still think it falls a little short compared to the screen the One X offers.
We will just have to wait and see, people should dismiss this claim of the 920 having the best display. Without tech sites being able to do a side by side comparison with both device in hand we can't claim WE know which has the best display.
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So you are saying that the One X display is better than the Ipad 3 display? Come on While I really like the One X Super LCD 2 I have to give it to the iPad 3, I think it is just the most gorgeous display around atm, be it on phone or tablet...Too bad I cannot afford one, but I have used it quite a bit in my office and compared to One X, S3 etc. and I think they don't even come close, even though they are even better on paper, like more ppi and stuff. In the end I think it comes down to user experience and personal preference.
Regarding the Lumia 920 - I do think it will probably have a better display than One X, iphone 5, 8x, S3 w/e. You will see the difference in sunlight, where, as someone already mentioned, even the 808 stands out. Just wait and see. About the super sensitive stuff - you might have a point here, I hope it is not going to end up overly uber sensitive. That being said, I do love the fact that you can use gloves, since I hate the hassle that is talking on the phone while skiing/being on a lift. Can lead to serious gloves losses and is obviously annoying :cyclops:
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I do love the fact that you can use gloves, since I hate the hassle that is talking on the phone while skiing/being on a lift. Can lead to serious gloves losses and is obviously annoying :cyclops:
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This is a real issue lol. Other issues include things like going sailing/kayaking etc when you want your phone in a sealed waterproof bag. Or hiking/walking. I am fat and lazy so non of these affect me but my mum does all of it and would also love the great camera and big battery once again because she does all of this.
Trolololo Nokia again. Screen of xperia P is around 780-800 nits (RGBW ftw). I highly doubt that the lumia's screen is over 1000 nits.
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Fighting over things that all of you have never seen in person or touched. Nice.
I tried nokia c6, e7, n9, neo, iphone 4s, evo 3D i give the evo 3D for best performance but with respect to nokia not a day passed it restarted itself or had any sort of problem with apps even android in n9 was awesome, i don't think people are exagerating about the 920 and 820 release
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Fighting over things that all of you have never seen in person or touched. Nice.
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No but I have not seen the lumia but I have seen though I didn't get to play with the 8x and it was about on a par with the one x. I also have a lumia 800 with clear black and the diff it makes is amazing, even with the lower res the same images just pop of the screen. I know a lot of people don't like the artificialness of it like the same as not liking beats audio etc. However I have seen enough of nokia and htc and Samsung to be able to put forth an argument with the info we have. I may be wrong and I will be the first to say it didn't live up but you don't need to drive a Ferrari to know its better than an impreza.
I actually recently acquired a one x and I still like the LG hd nitro screen better. It's more crisp and colors are really nice. I also think that screen gave the iPhone retina display a run for its money.
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The iPhone screen and the One X screen are overatted. Sense 4.0 makes the One V screen look nice.
Not that I am saying the Lumia 920 will have the best screen or anything because judging by the videos, the 8x and One X screen does look better still. The point is that most high end devices have pretty nice screens and none blow the other away. That is just fanboy talk. They are all quite close except for the deformed iPhone 5 screen. No one wants to watch movies on a bookmark.
I think they all will be close with the 8x taking it provided HTC gets to sensify wp8. If not, the One X probably keeps the crown or maybe the Optimus G. That screen looks sharp in videos too.
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The iPhone screen and the One X screen are overatted. Sense 4.0 makes the One V screen look nice.
Not that I am saying the Lumia 920 will have the best screen or anything because judging by the videos, the 8x and One X screen does look better still. The point is that most high end devices have pretty nice screens and none blow the other away. That is just fanboy talk. They are all quite close except for the deformed iPhone 5 screen. No one wants to watch movies on a bookmark.
I think they all will be close with the 8x taking it provided HTC gets to sensify wp8. If not, the One X probably keeps the crown or maybe the Optimus G. That screen looks sharp in videos too.
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What do you mean with all this?
Wow people are arguing that the One X has a superior screen to IPS, when the One X screen is a FREAKIN IPS screen. HTC has given it a fancy SUperLCD2 name to differentiate but it is still an IPS screen. The other high-end type of LCD screen is PLS, which Samsung puts in its tablets. It's similar to IPS but is cheaper to make. There's nothing else. HTC hasn't developed some newfangled LCD technology. The top tier is all IPS, with different variations and quality.
Comparing the One X to the Nexus 7 is stupid since it is a budget IPS screen. This was known since the beginning when DisplayMate ran tests that showed it clipped a lot of lower black shades. The One X ain't perfect either. It is overly warm and personally as a previous owner of the One X, I was not impressed by the contrast, viewing angles, nor the warm and sleepy look. The iPhone 5 and the iPad 3 have the best and most color-corrected displays on mobile right now. I know there will be many screaming bloody murder, and in fact there already are people doing so, that an Apple product is ever mentioned in a good light. The ability to reason escaped them long ago.
I can tell the Lumia 920 has a better display than the One X. How is that you say? Through many many youtube videos. People are gonna go blah blah you can't compare screens through a youtube video or that my screen sucks and it will never be able to showcase a better display. This thinking is flawed since experience shows to be otherwise and evety screen I've seen on youtube looks almost the same in real life. The One X looks warm and sleepy with average contrast on my computer. It was the same way when I got it in the mail and booted it up. The Lumia 900 has these awful blue live tiles on youtube videos, because it's Nokia's AMOLED tech and the colors are all wack. Same thing confirmed on literally half a dozen Lumia 900 models displayed at my local AT&T store. The iPhone 5 and iPad 3 screen are just as good in person as youtube videos suggest. Youtube videos will exaggerate any color imbalances or lack of sharpness and general screen quality. You need to look for the high quality hands-on videos, not the crappy blurry amateur porn looking ones with strange hues.
That's how I can tell the Lumia 920 is better than the 8X screen. The videos of the Lumia 920 make the colors look far more neutral, more colorful and bright, and much higher contrast and even looking. The 8X has the same screen as the One X, which doesn't have the same contrast, has a warmer and sleepier look (like the cinema mode on a TV), and just isn't as punchy.
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Wow people are arguing that the One X has a superior screen to IPS, when the One X screen is a FREAKIN IPS screen. HTC has given it a fancy SUperLCD2 name to differentiate but it is still an IPS screen. The other high-end type of LCD screen is PLS, which Samsung puts in its tablets. It's similar to IPS but is cheaper to make. There's nothing else. HTC hasn't developed some newfangled LCD technology. The top tier is all IPS, with different variations and quality.
Comparing the One X to the Nexus 7 is stupid since it is a budget IPS screen. This was known since the beginning when DisplayMate ran tests that showed it clipped a lot of lower black shades. The One X ain't perfect either. It is overly warm and personally as a previous owner of the One X, I was not impressed by the contrast, viewing angles, nor the warm and sleepy look. The iPhone 5 and the iPad 3 have the best and most color-corrected displays on mobile right now. I know there will be many screaming bloody murder, and in fact there already are people doing so, that an Apple product is ever mentioned in a good light. The ability to reason escaped them long ago.
I can tell the Lumia 920 has a better display than the One X. How is that you say? Through many many youtube videos. People are gonna go blah blah you can't compare screens through a youtube video or that my screen sucks and it will never be able to showcase a better display. This thinking is flawed since experience shows to be otherwise and evety screen I've seen on youtube looks almost the same in real life. The One X looks warm and sleepy with average contrast on my computer. It was the same way when I got it in the mail and booted it up. The Lumia 900 has these awful blue live tiles on youtube videos, because it's Nokia's AMOLED tech and the colors are all wack. Same thing confirmed on literally half a dozen Lumia 900 models displayed at my local AT&T store. The iPhone 5 and iPad 3 screen are just as good in person as youtube videos suggest. Youtube videos will exaggerate any color imbalances or lack of sharpness and general screen quality. You need to look for the high quality hands-on videos, not the crappy blurry amateur porn looking ones with strange hues.
That's how I can tell the Lumia 920 is better than the 8X screen. The videos of the Lumia 920 make the colors look far more neutral, more colorful and bright, and much higher contrast and even looking. The 8X has the same screen as the One X, which doesn't have the same contrast, has a warmer and sleepier look (like the cinema mode on a TV), and just isn't as punchy.
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Someone is on crack. Like I said before, no matter how sharp the iPhone 5 display is, it loses on shape and a pathetic width alone. It makes everything look tall and skinny or really short and wide unless you zoom. That is an automatic fail.
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Someone is on crack. Like I said before, no matter how sharp the iPhone 5 display is, it loses on shape and a pathetic width alone. It makes everything look tall and skinny or really short and wide unless you zoom. That is an automatic fail.
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I don't get why you think this as it has just changes to a 16x9 aspect ratio, This is the same as most screens on new phones 720x1280 i think its the same as the one x though don't quote me on that but it is deffo the same as the upcoming htc 8x. I hate the iPhone i think its stupidly over priced over hyped and dull, but, the screen is still really nice though i found that the blacks are really grey.
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I don't get why you think this as it has just changes to a 16x9 aspect ratio, This is the same as most screens on new phones 720x1280 i think its the same as the one x though don't quote me on that but it is deffo the same as the upcoming htc 8x. I hate the iPhone i think its stupidly over priced over hyped and dull, but, the screen is still really nice though i found that the blacks are really grey.
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It has the same aspect ratio as the One X but 16.9 aspect ratio doesn't work for small screens. And since the iPhone 5 screen is no wider and only taller than their old 3.5 inch screen, they should have kept the 4:3 aspect ratio. The iPad uses 4:3 because that is the proper aspect ratio for IOS. The iPhone 5 screen is ugly as hell and just does not fit. It is the equivalent of using one of those skinny or fat mirrors at an amusent park as the mirror in your bathroom. It doesn't matter how nice the glass is it is still a circus mirror.
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It has the same aspect ratio as the One X but 16.9 aspect ratio doesn't work for small screens. And since the iPhone 5 screen is no wider and only taller than their old 3.5 inch screen, they should have kept the 4:3 aspect ratio. The iPad uses 4:3 because that is the proper aspect ratio for IOS. The iPhone 5 screen is ugly as hell and just does not fit. It is the equivalent of using one of those skinny or fat mirrors at an amusent park as the mirror in your bathroom. It doesn't matter how nice the glass is it is still a circus mirror.
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? If you have a 4:3 aspect ratio with a 1280x720 resolution, you would have rectangular pixels, very rectangular. In fact, almost every phone with such a resolution has rectangular pixels with the exception of the new iphone whose pixels are as close to properly squared as you're going to find. That means everything on the new iphone is properly proportioned, whereas on most phones, images are slightly widened in portrait and lengthened in landscape.