Is anyone else getting Android OS around 50-60% battery use?
I have tried every ROM included going back to stock. I have ran the phone with nothing but Stock and no apps installed for a day and still get the same drain so I can only assume its a kernel issue.
I am not familiar with LG products in the slightest, but I had a yellow screen of death the other day...something I have never seen in my years with samsung android products. Anyone have any idea what this is maybe it is pointing to a hardware issue?
LG made a great phone, but I don't think I will keep it much longer. Locked boot loaders, no sources, and history of terrible updates have me regretting purchasing this phone. I tried my hand at building a working jb release when I first got the phone and it is going to take a skill set I do not have and I hate waiting on a company to do what they've never done in the past..
jivy26 said:
Is anyone else getting Android OS around 50-60% battery use?
I have tried every ROM included going back to stock. I have ran the phone with nothing but Stock and no apps installed for a day and still get the same drain so I can only assume its a kernel issue.
I am not familiar with LG products in the slightest, but I had a yellow screen of death the other day...something I have never seen in my years with samsung android products. Anyone have any idea what this is maybe it is pointing to a hardware issue?
LG made a great phone, but I don't think I will keep it much longer. Locked boot loaders, no sources, and history of terrible updates have me regretting purchasing this phone. I tried my hand at building a working jb release when I first got the phone and it is going to take a skill set I do not have and I hate waiting on a company to do what they've never done in the past..
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Easy, brother. I have only had one of my apps/utilities run higher than AndroidOS ever on this phone; however, that said, I think there is a problem with the way it's being calculated. I'm getting really good battery life with good sleep and still AndroidOS shows the highest by far. I know that's abnormal for it to be so high and still get good battery life, but it is what it is.
Edit: you've installed the fast dormancy toggle, right? As for the yellow screen, I've seen it once in my two months with the phone, just rebooted and carried on. Forgot what they said it was...but it is here in this forum somewhere.
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I was just about to post something similar. Andriod OS being high kind of makes sense if nothing else is using the battery, although you would expect that number to fall significantly with increased screen on time and heavy app usage, which it doesn't ever seem to.
I've been having horrible battery drain lately. I'm currently traveling for business, and just use my OG for web surfing and stuff when I'm in my hotel. I leave the phone in airplane mode, with WiFi on. About two weeks ago, when I was on The Base 0.4 in that same configuration, my battery would drain maybe 1% an hour while I was sleeping.
Recently I've been on The Base 0.7.3, and my battery drains over 5% an hour while I'm sleeping. This means no screen on, no apps running, and even turning WiFi off! How does it use that much battery when it's not doing anything? Now, I'm not entirely sure what kernel I'm running. The first time I installed The Base 0.7.3 I used sk8's kernel. After getting poor battery life, I reflashed 0.7 and 0.7.3, this time choosing the freegee kernel. I'm not actually sure if the kernel changed though.
Anyway, I think I'll post again tomorrow with some screenshots from Better Battery Stats+ and CPU Spy.
I'm wondering if this recent botched update had the battery fixes we need. Hopefully they'll re-release it soon.
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Easy, brother. I have only had one of my apps/utilities run higher than AndroidOS ever on this phone; however, that said, I think there is a problem with the way it's being calculated. I'm getting really good battery life with good sleep and still AndroidOS shows the highest by far. I know that's abnormal for it to be so high and still get good battery life, but it is what it is.
Edit: you've installed the fast dormancy toggle, right? As for the yellow screen, I've seen it once in my two months with the phone, just rebooted and carried on. Forgot what they said it was...but it is here in this forum somewhere.
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Yea I've tried fdt but I think it has to be kernel related drain issues
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Digil said:
I was just about to post something similar. Andriod OS being high kind of makes sense if nothing else is using the battery, although you would expect that number to fall significantly with increased screen on time and heavy app usage, which it doesn't ever seem to.
I've been having horrible battery drain lately. I'm currently traveling for business, and just use my OG for web surfing and stuff when I'm in my hotel. I leave the phone in airplane mode, with WiFi on. About two weeks ago, when I was on The Base 0.4 in that same configuration, my battery would drain maybe 1% an hour while I was sleeping.
Recently I've been on The Base 0.7.3, and my battery drains over 5% an hour while I'm sleeping. This means no screen on, no apps running, and even turning WiFi off! How does it use that much battery when it's not doing anything? Now, I'm not entirely sure what kernel I'm running. The first time I installed The Base 0.7.3 I used sk8's kernel. After getting poor battery life, I reflashed 0.7 and 0.7.3, this time choosing the freegee kernel. I'm not actually sure if the kernel changed though.
Anyway, I think I'll post again tomorrow with some screenshots from BatteryStats+ and CPU Spy.
I'm wondering if this recent botched update had the battery fixes we need. Hopefully they'll re-release it soon.
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When I would get bad drain, which has happened several times, I could narrow it down to a couple things in order to solve the problem.
In my case it would always happen after installing Google+. Uninstall and reboot would usually fix the issue. If I got drain on a fresh install without g+ installed, I found that if I installed the 2.2 kernel separately as a stand alone zip, that would fix it. Don't know why but it may work for you too.
I don't have screen shots, but today I recharged at 38% after 3:10 of phone use and 1:55 screen on time and about 15 hours off charger. That's with Wi-Fi on the whole time and Bluetooth for about 9 hours. I have my work exchange account on active sync with push notifications. Facebook and Twitterer to 4 hour intervals. I'm underclocked to 1350 and using powersave gov with deadline.
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Yea I've tried fdt but I think it has to be kernel related drain issues
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Believe you are correct. There were issues on the Samsung Infuse and even the international SGS3 for a while... it was referred to as 'memory leak.' Has been worked out by devs on XDA. You can put memory leak in the XDA search above... it's above my pay grade.
Edit: It's great to see another RD here... hope you will reconsider keeping the phone and stay !!
Jank4AU said:
When I would get bad drain, which has happened several times, I could narrow it down to a couple things in order to solve the problem.
In my case it would always happen after installing Google+. Uninstall and reboot would usually fix the issue. If I got drain on a fresh install without g+ installed, I found that if I installed the 2.2 kernel separately as a stand alone zip, that would fix it. Don't know why but it may work for you too.
I don't have screen shots, but today I recharged at 38% after 3:10 of phone use and 1:55 screen on time and about 15 hours off charger. That's with Wi-Fi on the whole time and Bluetooth for about 9 hours. I have my work exchange account on active sync with push notifications. Facebook and Twitterer to 4 hour intervals. I'm underclocked to 1350 and using powersave gov with deadline.
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have Google+ uninstalled, but part of me thinks Google Now may be partially the culprit (although why that would be the case with all radios off, I don't know).
I'll try a fresh install of the 2.2 kernel and see if that helps. Thanks.
I can't speak for anyone else but FDT did wonders for my battery life. I was only able to go about 12 hours prior to disabling FD.
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have Google+ uninstalled, but part of me thinks Google Now may be partially the culprit (although why that would be the case with all radios off, I don't know).
I'll try a fresh install of the 2.2 kernel and see if that helps. Thanks.
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I always install GNow, love the inverted version.
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johnbyebye said:
I can't speak for anyone else but FDT did wonders for my battery life. I was only able to go about 12 hours prior to disabling FD.
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This is good for sure... it's just that compared to other phones, Android OS and Android System should not be that high.
Pony Express said:
This is good for sure... it's just that compared to other phones, Android OS and Android System should not be that high.
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That's what leads me to believe it's a faulty measure...
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That's what leads me to believe it's a faulty measure...
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^^^ This is indeed worth considering.... I think the question then becomes why is it consistent among the 3 roms we are using? Maybe when JB source is out and something is built from source all will be good.
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^^^ This is indeed worth considering.... I think the question then becomes why is it consistent among the 3 roms we are using? Maybe when JB source is out and something is built from source all will be good.
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I would be less inclined to believe it is a faulty measure if we had a different ROM not built off stock (AOKP/CM10) that could produce different values. However, I seriously doubt anything built into either of the two custom ROM's is geared toward normalizing that reading. That's why they are both the same as the stock AndroidOS percentages. Jivy is probably right that it's a kernel issue. With the size battery we have, imagine the potential if it is a true reading (androidOS out-of-control) and we can get it under control down the road. We're talking double the current best battery life you've ever had on this phone at the very least.
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Get BetterBatteryStats, select Since unplugged and Alarms to see what is waking the device (making it not go into a deep sleep). eBay was a big culprit for me.
The wakelock that keeps the phone awake during background data transfer (screen off) lasts 6 seconds (I am guessing it does it in multiples of 6s) regardless of how long the sync takes. Everytime email, facebook, gmail, drive, picasa, twitter, g+, google maps, ebay, calendar, contacts.. whatever wakes the phone to check something, it will be a minimum of 6 seconds.. This adds up over the course of the day and it is counted in the Android OS. Shut down syncs you don't absolutely want/need and this number will go down. All phones with the Snapdragon S4 Pro has it, especially the Nexus4. It seems they've done some kernel work to fix/reduce it but I havent really looked into it since I don't have that phone. I've seen complaints in the Droid DNA forum as well.
snacsnoc said:
Get BetterBatteryStats, select Since unplugged and Alarms to see what is waking the device (making it not go into a deep sleep). eBay was a big culprit for me.
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This. EBay for me too. BetterBatteryStats is your friend.
Anyone else experiencing scrolling lag or delay. Clearing cache and wiping dalvik fixes it but the issue returns after about two days.
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Anyone else experiencing scrolling lag or delay. Clearing cache and wiping dalvik fixes it but the issue returns after about two days.
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Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
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Hello,
I've had my GS II for about a week, and the battery life has been pretty stellar, except for days where I work at the office. For some reason, there, the battery drains at about 2x the rate than in other areas. A very similar thing happened with my Captivate, but the battery lasts longer with the GS II.
However, today, at around 1PM, my phone started heating up so that it was hot to the touch, and the battery drained 60% in about 1.5 hours. Something went terribly wrong. And even plugged in, it was draining faster than it could charge!
How can I find out what happened? I don't want this to happen again.
The only thing I did was listen to a podcast with BeyondPod, but I do that every day at work over lunch. So, nothing new in my utilization.
Any ideas appreciated!
Thanks,
Jon
(AT&T SG II, stock, unrooted)
May be the GPS - same experience here.
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Thanks, but GPS was not on. Neither was WiFi. Just Bluetooth. It's the same settings I have every day at work, because Tasker sets my settings automatically based on cell tower location.
What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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kletiz said:
What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
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I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Was there anything else in your battery usage stats?
What about wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats?
Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
Had the same thing happen to me yesterday. I am stock rooted.
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ljwnow said:
Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
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Unfortunately, AOS often falsely reports high. Sometimes high AOS usage is fine, sometimes it's not.
I've gotten some of my best battery life with AOS at 60%.
Can't tell what happened to you without some statistics.
karth500 said:
I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Yeah, this sounds very similar to what happened to me, but with stock ROM.
Two follow-on questions:
1. If it's ROM-independent, then could it be something in the hardware that's short-circuiting? Like... the cellular chipset, or perhaps the modem firmware?
2. Can you explain what about CM 7.1 is so superior to the stock rom, which I'm finding pretty fantastic at the moment?
Thanks,
Jon
kletiz said:
No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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Unfortunately, I don't think I can go back in history, can I? It's a new day, with a new charge... and I'm imagining that the battery meters reflect today's activity, not yesterday's disaster...
Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
i never had battery drain but once in a while I do notice my phone gets hot on the back cover in between the SGS logo and the camera while I'm using it. If I put it down for a bit, it cools off. I figured it was just hot from use and I never thought anything more of it.
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Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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What make you think GS2 is any better than other Android phones in this regard? Anyone can make a mistake or two in programming and it is impossible to write bug free code.
Remember, latest Android Gingerbread OS is 2.3.7 and we are at 2.3.4. There are a lot of bug fixes (and new bugs) in each incremental release from Google alone. On top of that you have Samsung's customization code and various apps you installed.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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You still need to convince them, trust me.
Anyways..here is what I was getting at last night.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-os-what-is-it/
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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It does happen to iPhones for sure. We switched from blackberry devices to the iPhone, at work, three months ago. We had five different devices experience similar heat and battery issues. The cause is typically from apps or services that sync with online data.
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I flashed CM9 on my GSII on Friday and ever since it's had 5-6 hours on usage. I've tried doing the battery calibration stuff, seemed to be better Monday and today it had 50% after a few hours of gaming so that seemed normal but then i reset it and it dropped down to 10%. I tried calibrating again and still 5 hours.
I've been using that Battery Calibration app and it game me 40% charge at ~3500mV. I'm not sure whether that is the battery volume but seeing as 100% was 4200mV something seems wrong.
Anyone have any ideas?
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Is a ICS problem. Drains much battery.-
Now i have a slim ICS + n.e.a.k. kernel, and have great perfomance.-
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1536783
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Is a ICS problem. Drains much battery.-
Now i have a slim ICS + n.e.a.k. kernel, and have great perfomance.-
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It isn't ICS, i flashed it on a friends GSII at the same time and his last 1-2 days like usual.
i´m test ics roms, and have much differences between them.-
maybe the kernel makes the difference.-
But is a fact that GB has better battery management, that ICS
thefern2008 said:
i´m test ics roms, and have much differences between them.-
maybe the kernel makes the difference.-
But is a fact that GB has better battery management, that ICS
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I have an LG GT540 as well with ICS on it and that would get 8 hours regular usage with it. My GS2 get's less then that without me using it.
Ok you compare with other device, i Spoken to Galaxy s2, Ics have bad battery management, in sleep mode.-
But I´m still test the slim rom with neal kernel and have 53% battery after 30hs. with a general purpose.-
try it this rom an kernel,.-
As was already pointed out, bad battery life is almost always a rogue app keeping the phone awake, install Better Battery Stats and CPU Spy to monitor wake locks and deep sleep, if you find a problem with an app keeping your phone awake, uninstall it and your problem will likely go away. Personally, I've been running CM9 and other variants of ICS for months and I get less than 1% per hour of drain while the screen is off and the phone is asleep, this is better than Gingerbread was.
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As was already pointed out, bad battery life is almost always a rogue app keeping the phone awake, install Better Battery Stats and CPU Spy to monitor wake locks and deep sleep, if you find a problem with an app keeping your phone awake, uninstall it and your problem will likely go away. Personally, I've been running CM9 and other variants of ICS for months and I get less than 1% per hour of drain while the screen is off and the phone is asleep, this is better than Gingerbread was.
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I am curious - is this during the day with full sync going and data always on as well?
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I am curious - is this during the day with full sync going and data always on as well?
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Yes, gmail, facebook, etc... Remember that I said screen off, obviously screen on drain is considerably higher.
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Yes, gmail, facebook, etc... Remember that I said screen off, obviously screen on drain is considerably higher.
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Right, but background sync can still hit the battery, even with screen off. I was just curious.
Ive had days with horrible drain but it was almost always an app doing something dumb and keeping the phone awake, bad cell reception or a noisy wifi router. The trick being to identify wake locks that seem suspicious and track them down.
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any free apps to watch for wake locks? Don't really want to spend 3.00 for better battery stats..
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any free apps to watch for wake locks? Don't really want to spend 3.00 for better battery stats..
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There is a free version of better battery stats on xda in the android section, just look for it. But, do consider supporting the dev, BBS is a great app.
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any free apps to watch for wake locks? Don't really want to spend 3.00 for better battery stats..
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You don't have to. Since you're an XDA member you can download it from here. Just search for it.
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You don't have to. Since you're an XDA member you can download it from here. Just search for it.
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It's always better for everybody to support the developer by purchasing it on the Play Store, I did it.
It's a thing of principles, if you support developers they will keep improving apps and making our lives more enjoyable with our beloved SG2.
Regards.
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It's always better for everybody to support the developer by purchasing it on the Play Store, I did it.
It's a thing of principles, if you support developers they will keep improving apps and making our lives more enjoyable with our beloved SG2.
Regards.
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I agree with you, I was just trying to help the guy out who was asking for it.
I have been struggling with trying to figure out if the battery life I am seeing is what my Atrix is really capable of. I am occasionally a heavy user, but on weekends I am a very light user. I'll start at 8am with 100% and be almost dead at 6-8pm. I have searched around and seen other Atrix users with 24 hours of battery life and even if I tried my hardest to not use my phone I wouldn't get those kind of numbers. I feel fairly confident in saying i scoured search results and tried everything i could find to extend battery life.
Am I doing something wrong?
Is there something I can do to help?
I know it's been asked before, but I am hoping to get some current answers for this question: what kind of battery life numbers are you getting on your Atrix? Which rom are you using?
Atrix 4G running CM7 RC3. If the answer is "keep it charged as often as possible", it is what it is. It would be great to find an answer to why battery life is so much shorter than others though! Many thanks in advance.
Just noticed CM7.2 stable was released, upgrading to that now to see if battery life improves. Might try a full wipe to see if battery life is better without email, syncs, etc. etc. if the upgrade doesn't help.
i would recommend getting cpu spy and also download and install as a zip 'blue sleep fix' (blue sleep zip can be found in the CM7 thread). This has greatly improved my battery life.
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Just noticed CM7.2 stable was released, upgrading to that now to see if battery life improves. Might try a full wipe to see if battery life is better without email, syncs, etc. etc. if the upgrade doesn't help.
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Which kernel? Flash Faux 1.0GHz and undervolt across the board by -50mv. Instant battery life!
Also, use ROM Manager or equivalent to stop all non essential apps from starting on boot.
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barry_ said:
i would recommend getting cpu spy and also download and install as a zip 'blue sleep fix' (blue sleep zip can be found in the CM7 thread). This has greatly improved my battery life.
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There are 2 cpu spy apps on the market, can you let me know which one to use? Bluesleep fix found and downloading now.
CaelanT said:
Which kernel? Flash Faux 1.0GHz and undervolt across the board by -50mv. Instant battery life!
Also, use ROM Manager or equivalent to stop all non essential apps from starting on boot.
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Flashed Faux 1.0 no problem. I do not know how to undervolt so I will search around and see if i can find something on it. Ill try stopping some startup apps too. Thanks for the suggestions all! Keep them coming!
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There are 2 cpu spy apps on the market, can you let me know which one to use? Bluesleep fix found and downloading now.
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the one by 'STORM717' :good:
Hopefully did the under volt right! Should I set it to take effect at boot?
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rjbanker said:
Hopefully did the under volt right! Should I set it to take effect at boot?
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Test your settings for a few days. If the phone stays stable THEN you set at boot.
Big thanks to everyone! Battery life has improved a ton (see picts)! It was hard finding the blue sleep fix, here it is for others to easily find: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25437046&postcount=436
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Big thanks to everyone! Battery life has improved a ton (see picts)! It was hard finding the blue sleep fix, here it is for others to easily find: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25437046&postcount=436
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Err, that is not good battery life at all bro. I can tell you barely used the phone. Atrix should be able to provide up to 2 days standby time...
I wouldn't undervolt either, I read on these forums that the battery gained from undervolting barely makes a difference
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Big thanks to everyone! Battery life has improved a ton (see picts)! It was hard finding the blue sleep fix, here it is for others to easily find: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25437046&postcount=436
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You should turn wifi off when not in use, that will save battery life.
Badass battery will let you know how you spend your battery by % and let you know which app takes the most battery. (Lets you get a really readable easily understandable battery read out.)
I can help you get even better battery if you use this app and give me some numbers (it has a share via gmail/etc)
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You should turn wifi off when not in use, that will save battery life.
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Or simply set wifi sleep to screen off
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Ciloteille said:
Badass battery will let you know how you spend your battery by % and let you know which app takes the most battery. (Lets you get a really readable easily understandable battery read out.)
I can help you get even better battery if you use this app and give me some numbers (it has a share via gmail/etc)
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turning off wifi is not going to help him that much. I leave my wifi on all the time no problems, make 2 days light usage no problem.
More likely he's got some apps running around in the background. I suggest he pick through what he's got installed and start turning off the things that like to sync all the time in the background.
I think step number 1 would be to install a non-stock ROM and startover fresh.
Blur-based ROMs (Nottachtrix was really good) then the faux123 kernel then slowly start installing the apps he likes to use and monitor battery life. It might take a month but he's definitely got an offender here or there causing these problems.
also install Juice Defender. My mom's Galaxy S2 was having tons of problems with battery life even though she wasn't using it at all, 60% battery life at 3pm without using it at all, installed that and immediately helped her a lot, like 80% by 3pm WITH use.
Also, clear your dalvik cache. After installing lots of stuff and not using it, it just fills up with sometimes poorly written code. Clearing it always makes phone faster in my experience.
Ciloteille said:
Badass battery will let you know how you spend your battery by % and let you know which app takes the most battery. (Lets you get a really readable easily understandable battery read out.)
I can help you get even better battery if you use this app and give me some numbers (it has a share via gmail/etc)
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I will give that a shot, thanks!
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Or simply set wifi sleep to screen off
MB860, CM7.2.0, Faux 026b1 1Ghz
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Strangely, I keep setting wifi to turn off when the screen is off...but it keeps resetting itself. I wonder if I found a bug?
rancur3p1c said:
turning off wifi is not going to help him that much. I leave my wifi on all the time no problems, make 2 days light usage no problem.
More likely he's got some apps running around in the background. I suggest he pick through what he's got installed and start turning off the things that like to sync all the time in the background.
I think step number 1 would be to install a non-stock ROM and startover fresh.
Blur-based ROMs (Nottachtrix was really good) then the faux123 kernel then slowly start installing the apps he likes to use and monitor battery life. It might take a month but he's definitely got an offender here or there causing these problems.
also install Juice Defender. My mom's Galaxy S2 was having tons of problems with battery life even though she wasn't using it at all, 60% battery life at 3pm without using it at all, installed that and immediately helped her a lot, like 80% by 3pm WITH use.
Also, clear your dalvik cache. After installing lots of stuff and not using it, it just fills up with sometimes poorly written code. Clearing it always makes phone faster in my experience.
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I think this is what I will do today! I'll do a nandroid backup, and try Nottachtrix with no extra stuff installed or setup. I will report back! I appreciate all the help to get my phone performing where it should be.
Just wanted to report in. I tried a clean ROM as stated in my previous post with no luck. I just couldn't get past the battery life I was getting with cyanogenmod WITH all of the apps and syncs enabled. Should I try another ROM maybe?
Maybe your battery is just a bit old? After ~2 years, you can expect that battery life drops dramatically. if you are a heavy user this might happen earlier. Maybe check with the battery of a friend of yours whether it's a software or a hardware issue
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You could be right, the battery might be dying.
I was on vacation the past few days so I got the opportunity to not use my phone most of the day (job requires me to use the phone a lot). The battery lasted about 12 hours and looked like it had about 4 hours left. So maybe I am expecting too much, but I'm not trolling...no.
If you aren't going to be helpful, go somewhere else. You could have said "Your phone screen was on for probably longer periods than the average user and that's why you can't hit longer hours". Based on your previous comments, I shouldn't expect much from you though.
Many thanks to all who are helping me. You're all awesome.
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11-12 hours.
I also have 11-12 hours with 1 charge. And it is not enough for me. I use only Whatsapp ( a lot usage ), a little bit browsing, 20-30 minutes phone calls. These are all. And 11-12 hours is sooo bad for them i guess.
I have an "suspend linux process" drainage issue. Maybe because of it, I'm getting this result.
How can I extend my battery life. PLEASE Help!
Hey folks,
New guy here, just picked up a new LG Optimus G on AT&T yesterday afternoon to replace my aging Samsung GS2. This was a somewhat quickly made decision (for me anyway) so I haven't done as much research on the LGOG as I typically do before purchasing a new device...it's quite possible I missed something stupid. If so, flame away...
As of right now, I'm stock/unrooted, with a small number of primary use apps installed. While screwing around getting familiar with the device yesterday, I noticed a high level of msm_hsic_host wakelocks, with an apparently related but smaller amount of suspend_backoff wakelocks in Better Battery Stats. CPUSpy indicated approximately 25% deep sleep for the run, which was about10 hours from purchase to going to bed - with a partial charge in the middle.
This concerned me slightly, so I let the device charge overnight, then unplugged this morning and let her go on a screen-off draindown test. Did a 50 minute run, which resulted in zero battery drain (still at 100% for a few moments when I lit the screen up at the end of the run) but ZERO deep sleep. The vast majority of the run was spent at 384 MHz, with small amounts at 1512. This run was done while on an ATT microcell for calls and WiFi on for data (set to stay on with screen off). Background data was on. While I am quite impressed that I'm seeing 1-2% drain per hour with no deep sleep, I have to believe this is not how the device is supposed to operate.
Prior to buying the LGOG, while looking at the forums here, I noted that Jank4AU was here - a name I recognized from the Aria and SGS2 forums. He provided an excellent overview of the device (via PM - Thanks Jank4AU) and mentioned the need for rooting to disable fast dormancy, which apparently AT&T, in their infinite wisdom, left enabled by default, to improve battery life. My limited experience with chasing wakelocks indicates that HSIC is likely radio related. Is this msm_hsic_host wakelock triggered by the fast dormancy system? My searches have turned up little to indicate either a yes or a no...
forum search turns up this (partially related??): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2144927&highlight=msm+hsic+host
Google search turns up a bit more, but very Nexus 4 focused (I realize they are similar devices -- possibly similar fixes??):
https://productforums.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mobile/jO65dcM7J2Y[1-25-false]
On the sprint version (wifi related for us too? WiFi off drain test is next for me I think.): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2106529
It looks like Thracemerin is chasing it in kernel development for 4.2.2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2102986 Is this less of an issue on JB than on the stock ICS for our devices?
At any rate, I'm still digging though the ROM threads, but will likely be rooted and maybe off stock by the end of the day today. I'm looking forward to spending some time with the LGOG community, and hopefully I'll be able to contribute meaningfully at some point!
Sorry for the great wall o' text...
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Yep. My wife's phone running rooted stock has it. Mine so far doesn't
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Yep. My wife's phone running rooted stock has it. Mine so far doesn't
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Interesting. Can you elaborate on what may be different, set up wise, between yours and your wife's phones? Particularly radio/Wi-Fi settings or presence/absence of Wi-Fi use environments?
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Nothing different between our phones bloatware frozen. She spends a lot more time away from wifi than I do. I just disabled fast dormancy and installed better battery stats on both of our phones. I'll keep an eye on things and compare both at the end of the day
I made a thread a few months back about this wakelock. As I've flashed ROMs and have fast dormancy disabled, the problem has vanished. I had the wakelock on stock unrooted, stock rooted, and stock ICS ROM.
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I applied the fast dormancy fix and all is well here too
I was seeing this wakelock a lot too, but only noticed it (only ever installed BBS) AFTER disabling fast dormancy. In the process of trying to tack this down, I froze a bunch of apps, turned off a bunch of background syncing type stuff, re-enabled FD, and I've had wifi off the past 2 days, and now the wakelock is still the highest on the list, but it's usually < 10% now instead of 44%, and my deep sleep percentage has reversed, from 25% to 75% now. Re-disabling FD doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is FD only relevant for LTE? I only have 4G here.
Yeah, there's a fast-dormancy toggle app in the themes and apps section. It will greatly reduce your wake-locks.
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I made a thread a few months back about this wakelock. As I've flashed ROMs and have fast dormancy disabled, the problem has vanished. I had the wakelock on stock unrooted, stock rooted, and stock ICS ROM.
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I applied the fast dormancy fix and all is well here too
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Thanks for the input folks, looks like it's time to root for me. FWIW, I tried running with wifi off, and saw small (8ish) percentage deep sleep.
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I was seeing this wakelock a lot too, but only noticed it (only ever installed BBS) AFTER disabling fast dormancy. In the process of trying to tack this down, I froze a bunch of apps, turned off a bunch of background syncing type stuff, re-enabled FD, and I've had wifi off the past 2 days, and now the wakelock is still the highest on the list, but it's usually < 10% now instead of 44%, and my deep sleep percentage has reversed, from 25% to 75% now. Re-disabling FD doesn't seem to have made any difference. Is FD only relevant for LTE? I only have 4G here.
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Hmmmm...if I understand you correctly, you're seeing the opposite behavior of those two above? I am also in a Non-LTE area...be interesting to see what I see.
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Yeah, there's a fast-dormancy toggle app in the themes and apps section. It will greatly reduce your wake-locks.
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Sweet. I'm missing Google Now an awful lot...I'm thinking a switch to the SnowJB ROM might be in order...appears that has "built-in" fast dormancy "fix" - I assume this means it's disabled by default on that ROM.
Got revert to stock all set up on my PC, so now I get to go root. This will be the soonest after purcahse I've rooted a new device (previous quickest was 4 days for the SGS2). Thank you all for the warm and helpful welcome to the LGOG device forums!
Edit: just out of curiosity, what do you guys typically see for deep sleep percentages? On the SGS2 85% or so was about my average on ICS with my full complement of apps and background data running. That dropped to 75-80% with Google Now running in the background.
DD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2050582
The zv9 zvb root works on 11c.
I am seeing the opposite of some of the others in a way.... I can't say that disabling FD hurt me and I can't say that enabling it helped me. All I can say for sure is in my case it doesn't seem to make any difference one way or another.
Also, the FD toggle app doesn't require root. Not that you shouldn't root, just that you don't need to in order to try this.
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The zv9 zvb root works on 11c.
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LOL, Thanks adfurgerson (another i777 convert iirc?). By the time I got back to read this I was already rooted and unlocked via the guide sticky procedure! Went without a hitch.
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LOL, Thanks adfurgerson (another i777 convert iirc?). By the time I got back to read thCFC I was already rooted and unlocked via the guide sticky procedure! Went without a hitch.
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Yes I had I777, so far this is a good group here. Seen you found irc channel. If you can do without camera and GPS cfx is nice.
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Yes I had I777, so far this is a good group here. Seen you found irc channel. If you can do without camera and GPS cfx is nice.
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Yeah...I might be able to live without one or the other (GPS is easier to get along without for me) but without both, it's not quite to daily driver status for me. I thought I saw some comments from the dev that kernel work towards getting the camera going is almost ready. At that point I might give it a shot.
Edit: OK, first dumb question of my time here (won't be the last): Is there a key combo to get into recovery? Google pointed me to either vol-/power or vol+/home/power. Neither of these worked for me, all I can seem to get with keys is fastboot. Had to ADB into recovery to make my backup...gonna flash SnowJB once that's done.
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Yeah...I might be able to live without one or the other (GPS is easier to get along without for me) but without both, it's not quite to daily driver status for me. I thought I saw some comments from the dev that kernel work towards getting the camera going is almost ready. At that point I might give it a shot.
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I believe that I put up an ICS version of Google Now in my inverted apps thread if you aren't ready for JB yet. Also, in that same thread, there is probably still a copy of Google Now (not inverted) for ICS as posted by XsMagical. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll send the file to you.
Jank
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I believe that I put up an ICS version of Google Now in my inverted apps thread if you aren't ready for JB yet. Also, in that same thread, there is probably still a copy of Google Now (not inverted) for ICS as posted by XsMagical. If you can't find it, PM me and I'll send the file to you.
Jank
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Thanks, appreciated. Just got SnowJB flashed (glad to be rid of that damn carrier id in the notification bar, since it says ATT Microcell at home and takes up most of the notification bar!). If I run into issues, I'll jump back and take a look at your ICS GNow...
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Thanks, appreciated. Just got SnowJB flashed (glad to be rid of that damn carrier id in the notification bar, since it says ATT Microcell at home and takes up most of the notification bar!). If I run into issues, I'll jump back and take a look at your ICS GNow...
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Good deal, that SnowJB is pretty smooth.
Itnis hidden menu for recovery, volume up and power for bootloader then volume up twice then power. Quickboot app also works.
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Itnis hidden menu for recovery, volume up and power for bootloader then volume up twice then power. Quickboot app also works.
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Gotcha...thanks. I have quickboot now, so all good. knowing that combo is nice in case I get in a pinch sometime though and am working from stock without ADB available (hopefully that never happens ). Is that button combo/hidden menu stuff posted somewhere? If so I missed it. Might be a good thing to add to one of the "read me first" kinda stickies (assuming it's not already there and I missed it)...
Edit: And first short duration drain test after root/unlock/SnowJB1.1 is giving me 68% deep sleep - with GNow enabled and full complement of apps (a bunch more apps than previous test).
Edit 2: Initial 3 hour test after SnowJB install - 5% total battery drain over 3 hours, including 20 minutes screen on for browsing. 70.4% deep sleep, with minimal (1min 30sec) running at max CPU. I'm used to seeing 5% drain just from that much screen on time, so this is excellent performance in my book!
Oddly enough,my phone was kept awake by msm_hsic_host wakelock for over 7 hours last night. I'm abroad at the moment, with my phone in airplane mode all the time, wifi was turned off during that time, and the fast dormancy toggle was doing its thing. Weird. I'll see if it happens again tonight.
So I just got my HTC one on Sunday night. The first thing I did is let the battery charge up and then drained it to less than 3% and recharged. Ive been getting horrible battery usage since Sunday and am starting to worry that I might have a hw issue. For example, today I woke up at 5:30 and unplugged my phone. Its now 10:15 and I am at less than 30% with less than 30min of screen time (in battery save mode). Should I just go back and replace with my 30 day warranty? Or should I try to calibrate it? I have yet to root it because I just got it, so no custom kernels or roms that might be draining it. The idle and HTC Sense seem to be the programs draining it the worst based on the stock battery usage report.
Give it a few cycles
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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I don't know the exact mechanics of it but battery life almost always improves after using it for a little while, that's the way phones work
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Wow, that's a lot. You may want to check apps running in the background. The culprit on mine is the Kernel and there's nothing I can do about it.
I'm actually getting pretty much the same battery life. Prior to the update my average was 13 hrs. 4 hrs screen time. All on stock.
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I've never heard of the whole settling of the battery with my previous phones. Usually just the whole make sure to drain it all the way the first time and get a full charge, then it would be good. That being said, I could very well be wrong and you may be right, but if it is a hardware issue I would like to return before its too late
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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a battery is not software
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a battery is not software
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I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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i'm not 100% sure but my assumption would be that, new ROMs change your phone entirely. they assign different values to resources, it pretty much changes everything that your battery has grown custom to, so maybe the battery needs to settle in and get used to how resources are now being used.
i also notice reduce battery life. went back to 4.1.2.
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i also notice reduce battery life. went back to 4.1.2.
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Thinking of downgrade too
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Yeah, this is obviously not a good thing
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Me the same. Andoird system has the most battery consumption...! Any solution?
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ExcelonGT said:
I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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It's mainly for the kernel. It has to run thousands of lines of new code, build the caches, add thumbnails, sync all your stuff, etc. It usually doesn't take a few cycles though, just one.
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It's a reported problem with several devices from what I've researched.the nexus 4 and 7 have had the same issues.Sprint has acknowledged the issue also.now it's just a waiting game.
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When I updated to 4.3 my battery life was horrible. I would get 3 hours and it was dead. I factory reset and all is well! I've been on battery for 11 hours and have 40% left!
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As people have said, you have to let it go through a few cycles before it proforms stably. When I first got mine it was the same situation you describe, couldn't even make it through half a day without charging. Without changing anything (seriously, everything is still stock), that increased to regularly getting 40hrs per charge with about 2hrs screen on time. I could claim that the software is learning or that the hardware handling the battery is improving, but I don't know, I just know that this is a pretty universal phenomenon and it is real. And for me 4.3 had only made it better (not much though, but definitely not worse).
Just give it time, it's about to get good
Also, I can tell you from my tests earlier on that wifi was one of my biggest battery drains, so I just don't use it at all now. But you could just get in the habit of turning it off at certain times or get tasker to handle that). Also power saver is useful, I do notice it slow down but only in the text message app, everything else is still very smooth and fast. And yes, even now the Android system averages 80% of total drain for me. A large portion of that is wakelocks, and there's lots of excellent tutorials on xda about how to find and deal with some of them. Personally I've made my peace with the ones I encounter, so although people tell me losing 5-8%overnight to them is too much, I'm fine with that. Again, much better now than my initial use led me to believe.
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It's mainly for the kernel. It has to run thousands of lines of new code, build the caches, add thumbnails, sync all your stuff, etc. It usually doesn't take a few cycles though, just one.
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Makes sense. Thanks
If it's draining as fast as you say suggestion is charge it up, put it in airplane mode over night. If it still drains, bring it back for a replacement.
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