So I just got my HTC one on Sunday night. The first thing I did is let the battery charge up and then drained it to less than 3% and recharged. Ive been getting horrible battery usage since Sunday and am starting to worry that I might have a hw issue. For example, today I woke up at 5:30 and unplugged my phone. Its now 10:15 and I am at less than 30% with less than 30min of screen time (in battery save mode). Should I just go back and replace with my 30 day warranty? Or should I try to calibrate it? I have yet to root it because I just got it, so no custom kernels or roms that might be draining it. The idle and HTC Sense seem to be the programs draining it the worst based on the stock battery usage report.
Give it a few cycles
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
ExcelonGT said:
I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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I don't know the exact mechanics of it but battery life almost always improves after using it for a little while, that's the way phones work
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Wow, that's a lot. You may want to check apps running in the background. The culprit on mine is the Kernel and there's nothing I can do about it.
I'm actually getting pretty much the same battery life. Prior to the update my average was 13 hrs. 4 hrs screen time. All on stock.
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I've never heard of the whole settling of the battery with my previous phones. Usually just the whole make sure to drain it all the way the first time and get a full charge, then it would be good. That being said, I could very well be wrong and you may be right, but if it is a hardware issue I would like to return before its too late
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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a battery is not software
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a battery is not software
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I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
ExcelonGT said:
I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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i'm not 100% sure but my assumption would be that, new ROMs change your phone entirely. they assign different values to resources, it pretty much changes everything that your battery has grown custom to, so maybe the battery needs to settle in and get used to how resources are now being used.
i also notice reduce battery life. went back to 4.1.2.
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i also notice reduce battery life. went back to 4.1.2.
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Thinking of downgrade too
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Yeah, this is obviously not a good thing
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Me the same. Andoird system has the most battery consumption...! Any solution?
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ExcelonGT said:
I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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It's mainly for the kernel. It has to run thousands of lines of new code, build the caches, add thumbnails, sync all your stuff, etc. It usually doesn't take a few cycles though, just one.
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It's a reported problem with several devices from what I've researched.the nexus 4 and 7 have had the same issues.Sprint has acknowledged the issue also.now it's just a waiting game.
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When I updated to 4.3 my battery life was horrible. I would get 3 hours and it was dead. I factory reset and all is well! I've been on battery for 11 hours and have 40% left!
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As people have said, you have to let it go through a few cycles before it proforms stably. When I first got mine it was the same situation you describe, couldn't even make it through half a day without charging. Without changing anything (seriously, everything is still stock), that increased to regularly getting 40hrs per charge with about 2hrs screen on time. I could claim that the software is learning or that the hardware handling the battery is improving, but I don't know, I just know that this is a pretty universal phenomenon and it is real. And for me 4.3 had only made it better (not much though, but definitely not worse).
Just give it time, it's about to get good
Also, I can tell you from my tests earlier on that wifi was one of my biggest battery drains, so I just don't use it at all now. But you could just get in the habit of turning it off at certain times or get tasker to handle that). Also power saver is useful, I do notice it slow down but only in the text message app, everything else is still very smooth and fast. And yes, even now the Android system averages 80% of total drain for me. A large portion of that is wakelocks, and there's lots of excellent tutorials on xda about how to find and deal with some of them. Personally I've made my peace with the ones I encounter, so although people tell me losing 5-8%overnight to them is too much, I'm fine with that. Again, much better now than my initial use led me to believe.
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It's mainly for the kernel. It has to run thousands of lines of new code, build the caches, add thumbnails, sync all your stuff, etc. It usually doesn't take a few cycles though, just one.
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Makes sense. Thanks
If it's draining as fast as you say suggestion is charge it up, put it in airplane mode over night. If it still drains, bring it back for a replacement.
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Hello,
I've had my GS II for about a week, and the battery life has been pretty stellar, except for days where I work at the office. For some reason, there, the battery drains at about 2x the rate than in other areas. A very similar thing happened with my Captivate, but the battery lasts longer with the GS II.
However, today, at around 1PM, my phone started heating up so that it was hot to the touch, and the battery drained 60% in about 1.5 hours. Something went terribly wrong. And even plugged in, it was draining faster than it could charge!
How can I find out what happened? I don't want this to happen again.
The only thing I did was listen to a podcast with BeyondPod, but I do that every day at work over lunch. So, nothing new in my utilization.
Any ideas appreciated!
Thanks,
Jon
(AT&T SG II, stock, unrooted)
May be the GPS - same experience here.
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Thanks, but GPS was not on. Neither was WiFi. Just Bluetooth. It's the same settings I have every day at work, because Tasker sets my settings automatically based on cell tower location.
What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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What's your android OS utilization look like in battery stats? Could be the mysterious bug on Samsung devices...
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If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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If you mean the bars beneath the battery chart, the signal bar was 100% green from left to right. Is that what you mean?
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I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Was there anything else in your battery usage stats?
What about wakelocks in BetterBatteryStats?
Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
Had the same thing happen to me yesterday. I am stock rooted.
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Same here. My battery just drained to death. And "Android OS" was taken care 80% of my battery. What the hell...
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Unfortunately, AOS often falsely reports high. Sometimes high AOS usage is fine, sometimes it's not.
I've gotten some of my best battery life with AOS at 60%.
Can't tell what happened to you without some statistics.
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I had a similar experience today. I was talking on the phone when the top of the phone got really hot. Like it hurt my ear to hold the phone against it. And then the phone rebooted. Since then it's been running phone. Need to figure out what caused it though. Might be a similar issue. But my battery life has been pretty good though. Can easily make it through a day with moderate to heavy use.
I am running CM 7.1. Not sure if that had anything to do with it. But even if it did, there is no way I am going back to stock.
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Yeah, this sounds very similar to what happened to me, but with stock ROM.
Two follow-on questions:
1. If it's ROM-independent, then could it be something in the hardware that's short-circuiting? Like... the cellular chipset, or perhaps the modem firmware?
2. Can you explain what about CM 7.1 is so superior to the stock rom, which I'm finding pretty fantastic at the moment?
Thanks,
Jon
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No, the screen before that...it will say display, android OS, android system, cell standby, etc.. what percent does it say for android OS?
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Unfortunately, I don't think I can go back in history, can I? It's a new day, with a new charge... and I'm imagining that the battery meters reflect today's activity, not yesterday's disaster...
Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Sh1t happens. That's the way it was with multiple Windows Mobile phones I had in the past and it is obviously the way it is with multiple Android phones I have now. Usually a quick reboot of the phone will resolve the problem. As long as it didn't happen again persisitently, you are fine.
The cause is somewhere some app or service was stuck in a bad place that uses a lot of CPU or data or both. This will cause phone heats up and battery darin faster. Unless you have full dev environment and logging on the phone, it is virtually impossible to track it down.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
i never had battery drain but once in a while I do notice my phone gets hot on the back cover in between the SGS logo and the camera while I'm using it. If I put it down for a bit, it cools off. I figured it was just hot from use and I never thought anything more of it.
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Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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What make you think GS2 is any better than other Android phones in this regard? Anyone can make a mistake or two in programming and it is impossible to write bug free code.
Remember, latest Android Gingerbread OS is 2.3.7 and we are at 2.3.4. There are a lot of bug fixes (and new bugs) in each incremental release from Google alone. On top of that you have Samsung's customization code and various apps you installed.
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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You still need to convince them, trust me.
Anyways..here is what I was getting at last night.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-os-what-is-it/
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Yeah, but does this kind of thing happen to iPhones and WinPho phones? Just curious. I am trying to convince friends & family that with the GS II, Android has finally reached parity with iOS. Perhaps not quite yet... ??
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It does happen to iPhones for sure. We switched from blackberry devices to the iPhone, at work, three months ago. We had five different devices experience similar heat and battery issues. The cause is typically from apps or services that sync with online data.
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Just throwing this out there, I have played around with a few of the ICS roms, using safestrap installs, to retain the back to GB option. I have found that I get about 50% less battery life on the ICS roms. On an average day I use my phone moderately, past two day, back on GB, at around this time of day I am at about 60% battery. While on ICS leaks, I was at about 30% with similar use throughout the day. Anyone else have such a stark difference with ICS?
You have to give it at least a day to settle in. I get better on ics.
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You have to give it at least a day to settle in. I get better on ics.
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I have stayed on the Roms for several days(a week on first round of trying them out) and still much worse battery life. You are on the GSM Razr? I am on CDMA, you know of any difference with radios that would cause the difference? Generally have LTE off both GB and ICS.
try to calibrate the battery with "Battery Calibration" https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5uZW1hLmJhdHRlcnljYWxpYnJhdGlvbiJd
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eyriiii said:
try to calibrate the battery with "Battery Calibration" https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNvbS5uZW1hLmJhdHRlcnljYWxpYnJhdGlvbiJd
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Doesn't this just adjust the vsel levels like the froyo over/underclock programs?
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My battery is slightly less on ICS, but not dramatically different. I can confirm it's not my usage or imagination either. Battery stats show "Android OS" is using 5-10% more than it did with GB.
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Doesn't this just adjust the vsel levels like the froyo over/underclock programs?
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No idea mate but it help me a lot with my Xoom when I had battery issues, you could try it, it doesn't hurt
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Just throwing this out there, I have played around with a few of the ICS roms, using safestrap installs, to retain the back to GB option. I have found that I get about 50% less battery life on the ICS roms. On an average day I use my phone moderately, past two day, back on GB, at around this time of day I am at about 60% battery. While on ICS leaks, I was at about 30% with similar use throughout the day. Anyone else have such a stark difference with ICS?
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if you go into your battery usage youll see that your screen is using 50% or more of the battery. there are battery issues and moto knows about them, im hoping they will fix this, ive read articles that they are gonna fix this bug before releasing the ics to the public.
my battery is the exact same way on ics, i hate it, but since i got a maxx now i could care less. i accidentally deleted my screen shot of the battery usage. and if you look at the ontime of your screen youll see that it is a 5th of the ontime of phone, (at least for me it was)
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if you go into your battery usage youll see that your screen is using 50% or more of the battery. there are battery issues and moto knows about them, im hoping they will fix this, ive read articles that they are gonna fix this bug before releasing the ics to the public.
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ICS OTA has been going out in stages all day today in the U.S. ...But yes I agree. There is some kind of battery issue.
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ICS OTA has been going out in stages all day today in the U.S. ...But yes I agree. There is some kind of battery issue.
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I was a bit hesitant to agree about there being a battery issue, until i was satisfied that id had enough time with the ROM.
But the truth is in the pudding so to say... I am able to make it through the day but i am getting at best 2/3 the amount i was on gingerbread.
9.5 hours of battery, 80% of which was taken up by screen time of 4hrs.
Yesterday i was convinced battery was fine, today i know there's something's amiss
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I have found the exact opposite. My office gets horrible cell reception and my phone was constantly trying to connect on gingerbread. It would always show the kernel as using the majority of the battery. Since ICS my phone rarely drops connection and my kernel now barely consumes any battery. I'm making it until five everyday with 50% battery left while with gingerbread my phone was always dead by five.
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I was a bit hesitant to agree about there being a battery issue, until i was satisfied that id had enough time with the ROM.
But the truth is in the pudding so to say... I am able to make it through the day but i am getting at best 2/3 the amount i was on gingerbread.
9.5 hours of battery, 80% of which was taken up by screen time of 4hrs.
Yesterday i was convinced battery was fine, today i know there's something's amiss
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At first, I thought maybe I was just using the phone a lot more than usual after I installed ICS. But after 5 days now, I know it isn't my usage.
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if you go into your battery usage youll see that your screen is using 50% or more of the battery. there are battery issues and moto knows about them, im hoping they will fix this, ive read articles that they are gonna fix this bug before releasing the ics to the public.
my battery is the exact same way on ics, i hate it, but since i got a maxx now i could care less. i accidentally deleted my screen shot of the battery usage. and if you look at the ontime of your screen youll see that it is a 5th of the ontime of phone, (at least for me it was)
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I was in the soak test, 1st I got the standard email getting everyone's opinions of the soak. Then yesterday I got a 2nd email from the MFN for a 2nd survey. This 2nd survey was all about the battery life. So, yeah, Moto knows that there are some issues with decreased battery life. I've noticed a decrease in battery life. Even so, I'm still happy with ICS. Most of the issues I've noticed have more to do with apps than ICS itself. Some apps, when I want to go back a screen, it instead takes me all the way out. Even the XDA app does this. Anyone else notice this issue?
I'm not 100% sure what the cause of the battery issue is.
In my case, on GB I would could typically go from about 6AM to 4PM before I would need to charge it again on a normal Droid RAZR. On ICS, at first I could only go for only about 2-3 hours before experiencing a 50% drop in power - meaning only about 5 hours before needing to hit the charger. For this reason, and other issues, I opted to perform a Factory Reset. It solved the problems I experienced, including my battery issue. On ICS, I can now go from 6AM to 6PM with a battery meter reading of 50%. Translation - for the first time with this phone and normal use (for me) I can go all day without having to worry about a charger. So, this is a huge improvement. But it did require a Factory Reset for me to get this level of performance.
I would like to be able to say the same but.... I did a factory reset before and after loading ics.
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I would like to be able to say the same but.... I did a factory reset before and after loading ics.
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Just curious, when you installed, how did you go about installing/reinstalling your apps? When I did the reset, I just let Google Play do it automagically for me. It got me about 90% there. There were a few things I needed to add and configure. Also, I stopped using another launcher and just went with ICS. I don't know if those are differences that might make a different or not.
I actually did not let google restore anything. I wanted a fresh base to work off of. Installed from market one at a time.
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Actually the first china leak (120) gave my battery a lot more usage time,significantly.
But when i switched to MIUI rom my battery life significantly dropped down,every minute of usage=1% of battery .
Try to use the stock rom for a couple of days,at least the stock leaked china rom has very good battery life for GSM devices .
I've had ICS for a week now. At first my battery didn't lady add long. But after a few days and a FDR it its lasting longer than it did on gb.
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My battery is slightly less on ICS, but not dramatically different. I can confirm it's not my usage or imagination either. Battery stats show "Android OS" is using 5-10% more than it did with GB.
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Values 5-10% for "Android OS" are the values of my dreams as I am used to +/-25% on the GB...
Is anyone else getting Android OS around 50-60% battery use?
I have tried every ROM included going back to stock. I have ran the phone with nothing but Stock and no apps installed for a day and still get the same drain so I can only assume its a kernel issue.
I am not familiar with LG products in the slightest, but I had a yellow screen of death the other day...something I have never seen in my years with samsung android products. Anyone have any idea what this is maybe it is pointing to a hardware issue?
LG made a great phone, but I don't think I will keep it much longer. Locked boot loaders, no sources, and history of terrible updates have me regretting purchasing this phone. I tried my hand at building a working jb release when I first got the phone and it is going to take a skill set I do not have and I hate waiting on a company to do what they've never done in the past..
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Is anyone else getting Android OS around 50-60% battery use?
I have tried every ROM included going back to stock. I have ran the phone with nothing but Stock and no apps installed for a day and still get the same drain so I can only assume its a kernel issue.
I am not familiar with LG products in the slightest, but I had a yellow screen of death the other day...something I have never seen in my years with samsung android products. Anyone have any idea what this is maybe it is pointing to a hardware issue?
LG made a great phone, but I don't think I will keep it much longer. Locked boot loaders, no sources, and history of terrible updates have me regretting purchasing this phone. I tried my hand at building a working jb release when I first got the phone and it is going to take a skill set I do not have and I hate waiting on a company to do what they've never done in the past..
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Easy, brother. I have only had one of my apps/utilities run higher than AndroidOS ever on this phone; however, that said, I think there is a problem with the way it's being calculated. I'm getting really good battery life with good sleep and still AndroidOS shows the highest by far. I know that's abnormal for it to be so high and still get good battery life, but it is what it is.
Edit: you've installed the fast dormancy toggle, right? As for the yellow screen, I've seen it once in my two months with the phone, just rebooted and carried on. Forgot what they said it was...but it is here in this forum somewhere.
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I was just about to post something similar. Andriod OS being high kind of makes sense if nothing else is using the battery, although you would expect that number to fall significantly with increased screen on time and heavy app usage, which it doesn't ever seem to.
I've been having horrible battery drain lately. I'm currently traveling for business, and just use my OG for web surfing and stuff when I'm in my hotel. I leave the phone in airplane mode, with WiFi on. About two weeks ago, when I was on The Base 0.4 in that same configuration, my battery would drain maybe 1% an hour while I was sleeping.
Recently I've been on The Base 0.7.3, and my battery drains over 5% an hour while I'm sleeping. This means no screen on, no apps running, and even turning WiFi off! How does it use that much battery when it's not doing anything? Now, I'm not entirely sure what kernel I'm running. The first time I installed The Base 0.7.3 I used sk8's kernel. After getting poor battery life, I reflashed 0.7 and 0.7.3, this time choosing the freegee kernel. I'm not actually sure if the kernel changed though.
Anyway, I think I'll post again tomorrow with some screenshots from Better Battery Stats+ and CPU Spy.
I'm wondering if this recent botched update had the battery fixes we need. Hopefully they'll re-release it soon.
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Easy, brother. I have only had one of my apps/utilities run higher than AndroidOS ever on this phone; however, that said, I think there is a problem with the way it's being calculated. I'm getting really good battery life with good sleep and still AndroidOS shows the highest by far. I know that's abnormal for it to be so high and still get good battery life, but it is what it is.
Edit: you've installed the fast dormancy toggle, right? As for the yellow screen, I've seen it once in my two months with the phone, just rebooted and carried on. Forgot what they said it was...but it is here in this forum somewhere.
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Yea I've tried fdt but I think it has to be kernel related drain issues
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I was just about to post something similar. Andriod OS being high kind of makes sense if nothing else is using the battery, although you would expect that number to fall significantly with increased screen on time and heavy app usage, which it doesn't ever seem to.
I've been having horrible battery drain lately. I'm currently traveling for business, and just use my OG for web surfing and stuff when I'm in my hotel. I leave the phone in airplane mode, with WiFi on. About two weeks ago, when I was on The Base 0.4 in that same configuration, my battery would drain maybe 1% an hour while I was sleeping.
Recently I've been on The Base 0.7.3, and my battery drains over 5% an hour while I'm sleeping. This means no screen on, no apps running, and even turning WiFi off! How does it use that much battery when it's not doing anything? Now, I'm not entirely sure what kernel I'm running. The first time I installed The Base 0.7.3 I used sk8's kernel. After getting poor battery life, I reflashed 0.7 and 0.7.3, this time choosing the freegee kernel. I'm not actually sure if the kernel changed though.
Anyway, I think I'll post again tomorrow with some screenshots from BatteryStats+ and CPU Spy.
I'm wondering if this recent botched update had the battery fixes we need. Hopefully they'll re-release it soon.
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When I would get bad drain, which has happened several times, I could narrow it down to a couple things in order to solve the problem.
In my case it would always happen after installing Google+. Uninstall and reboot would usually fix the issue. If I got drain on a fresh install without g+ installed, I found that if I installed the 2.2 kernel separately as a stand alone zip, that would fix it. Don't know why but it may work for you too.
I don't have screen shots, but today I recharged at 38% after 3:10 of phone use and 1:55 screen on time and about 15 hours off charger. That's with Wi-Fi on the whole time and Bluetooth for about 9 hours. I have my work exchange account on active sync with push notifications. Facebook and Twitterer to 4 hour intervals. I'm underclocked to 1350 and using powersave gov with deadline.
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Yea I've tried fdt but I think it has to be kernel related drain issues
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Believe you are correct. There were issues on the Samsung Infuse and even the international SGS3 for a while... it was referred to as 'memory leak.' Has been worked out by devs on XDA. You can put memory leak in the XDA search above... it's above my pay grade.
Edit: It's great to see another RD here... hope you will reconsider keeping the phone and stay !!
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When I would get bad drain, which has happened several times, I could narrow it down to a couple things in order to solve the problem.
In my case it would always happen after installing Google+. Uninstall and reboot would usually fix the issue. If I got drain on a fresh install without g+ installed, I found that if I installed the 2.2 kernel separately as a stand alone zip, that would fix it. Don't know why but it may work for you too.
I don't have screen shots, but today I recharged at 38% after 3:10 of phone use and 1:55 screen on time and about 15 hours off charger. That's with Wi-Fi on the whole time and Bluetooth for about 9 hours. I have my work exchange account on active sync with push notifications. Facebook and Twitterer to 4 hour intervals. I'm underclocked to 1350 and using powersave gov with deadline.
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Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have Google+ uninstalled, but part of me thinks Google Now may be partially the culprit (although why that would be the case with all radios off, I don't know).
I'll try a fresh install of the 2.2 kernel and see if that helps. Thanks.
I can't speak for anyone else but FDT did wonders for my battery life. I was only able to go about 12 hours prior to disabling FD.
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Digil said:
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I have Google+ uninstalled, but part of me thinks Google Now may be partially the culprit (although why that would be the case with all radios off, I don't know).
I'll try a fresh install of the 2.2 kernel and see if that helps. Thanks.
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I always install GNow, love the inverted version.
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johnbyebye said:
I can't speak for anyone else but FDT did wonders for my battery life. I was only able to go about 12 hours prior to disabling FD.
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This is good for sure... it's just that compared to other phones, Android OS and Android System should not be that high.
Pony Express said:
This is good for sure... it's just that compared to other phones, Android OS and Android System should not be that high.
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That's what leads me to believe it's a faulty measure...
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That's what leads me to believe it's a faulty measure...
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^^^ This is indeed worth considering.... I think the question then becomes why is it consistent among the 3 roms we are using? Maybe when JB source is out and something is built from source all will be good.
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^^^ This is indeed worth considering.... I think the question then becomes why is it consistent among the 3 roms we are using? Maybe when JB source is out and something is built from source all will be good.
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I would be less inclined to believe it is a faulty measure if we had a different ROM not built off stock (AOKP/CM10) that could produce different values. However, I seriously doubt anything built into either of the two custom ROM's is geared toward normalizing that reading. That's why they are both the same as the stock AndroidOS percentages. Jivy is probably right that it's a kernel issue. With the size battery we have, imagine the potential if it is a true reading (androidOS out-of-control) and we can get it under control down the road. We're talking double the current best battery life you've ever had on this phone at the very least.
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Get BetterBatteryStats, select Since unplugged and Alarms to see what is waking the device (making it not go into a deep sleep). eBay was a big culprit for me.
The wakelock that keeps the phone awake during background data transfer (screen off) lasts 6 seconds (I am guessing it does it in multiples of 6s) regardless of how long the sync takes. Everytime email, facebook, gmail, drive, picasa, twitter, g+, google maps, ebay, calendar, contacts.. whatever wakes the phone to check something, it will be a minimum of 6 seconds.. This adds up over the course of the day and it is counted in the Android OS. Shut down syncs you don't absolutely want/need and this number will go down. All phones with the Snapdragon S4 Pro has it, especially the Nexus4. It seems they've done some kernel work to fix/reduce it but I havent really looked into it since I don't have that phone. I've seen complaints in the Droid DNA forum as well.
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Get BetterBatteryStats, select Since unplugged and Alarms to see what is waking the device (making it not go into a deep sleep). eBay was a big culprit for me.
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This. EBay for me too. BetterBatteryStats is your friend.
Anyone else experiencing scrolling lag or delay. Clearing cache and wiping dalvik fixes it but the issue returns after about two days.
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Anyone else experiencing scrolling lag or delay. Clearing cache and wiping dalvik fixes it but the issue returns after about two days.
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Check out this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
i really need more battery life than what im getting with cm10 or stock jb
what rom should i try??
BlackJelly. Best one.
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i really need more battery life than what im getting with cm10 or stock jb
what rom should i try??
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its aaaaalllll going to depend on you buddy. its going to depend on you habits.
gaming, music, wifi scanning, live wallpapers. all going to affect.
remember, every phone is different as every ROM is different.
finding a ROM where you can OC/UV or alternative kernel with option. but if you go kernel route, go with one recommended by others for compatibility.
FOR ME, I have had good success with Padawan. OC/UV features on Trickster mod working well once dialed in. I don't game, but am on social media quite a bit an listen to a LOT of music and run live wallpaper on the Next Launcher. oh yeah, XDA quite a bit too.
I get 16 or 17+ hours and have roughly 30% to spare at the end of the day.
good luck and read, read, read. help yourself first
The i717 is limited from the beginning due to screen type and smaller battery then what should be I this thing .......I just bought a ravpower 2750 mah battery to help... I didn't like the 5200mah battery .. But I have pulled good battery life before but its hard to pull off unless you know your doing.
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what's the metric? "better battery life" is meaningless without a reference point.
i get 2 days. turn off everything except wifi... i charge it every other night when i go to sleep.stock t-mo kernel rooted/debloated, and everything remotely possible on the ext sd...
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what's the metric? "better battery life" is meaningless without a reference point.
i get 2 days. turn off everything except wifi... i charge it every other night when i go to sleep.stock t-mo kernel rooted/debloated, and everything remotely possible on the ext sd...
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isn't that like buying a new microwave and only heating things up 5 seconds at a time?
not much labor for me to plug phone in at night. mine gets me through the day, actually using it, and I have 30% or more to spare.
I've heard varying reports of how long peoples' batteries last, anywhere from 9 hours to 3 days. But what seems to be the common theme is that if you use your phone pretty frequently, you'll get maybe 10 hrs, but if you use the phone sporadically and not for long periods of time, you can expect the phone to last through the day and even maybe the next. But with mine I've found that the battery on average will last me maybe 10 hours, but that's with slight to almost no use. From what people have said online, the screen is what sucks up battery, but when I check with GSam Battery Monitor, my screen never seems to break 30% of my battery use. Apps are what usually take up ~45% of my battery. What's up with this? I don't wanna have to buy that stupid Mugen case, because it apparently sucks, but there are literally no other options to extend my battery... any advice? Will post screenshots. Thanks!
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Also, as you can see, the individual app %'s don't add up to the huge number that Apps is taking up... is that related/significant?
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Also, as you can see, the individual app %'s don't add up to the huge number that Apps is taking up... is that related/significant?
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It looks normal to me. Usually the people that are saying they get good battery life are the ones that are on a custom Rom and a custom kernel. From my findings the stock Rom especially with the net updates battery life seems to be worse with each update. One really good combination I have run that yields amazing battery life is CM11 and crpalmers kernel. That combination will give amazing battery life. It also depends on what you use your phone for. Judging by your screen shots thing look pretty normal. I would try giving battery guru a go in the market of you want to get some more juice. Let it learn your habits and it will help with you battery life.
You also have to remember as the device ages and you recharge the battery you can't expect it to remain fantastic like the first day you got it. Like anything else they wear down over time and can only go through so many charging cycles.
Or it may just be your battery starting to go bad. Its hard to pin point what may be wrong. It may be as simple as a rogue app. Try some of the suggestions I mentioned above and post back to let us know how your doing. If your not rubbing a custom Rom I recommend switching to one. They are packed with features and the battery life is generally better.
Anyways good luck. Post back if you have any more questions.
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It looks normal to me. Usually the people that are saying they get good battery life are the ones that are on a custom Rom and a custom kernel. From my findings the stock Rom especially with the net updates battery life seems to be worse with each update..
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100% agree. Especially with the updates leading to worse battery life.
I recently switched to the DNA from an S4. Unlocked and S off'd. Flashed 4.4.2 Rom and immediately noticed how awful battery was in comparison to my Samsung. I actually flashed an older jellybean Rom with Sense 4+ and now I'm experiencing battery life as good as my S4, even though the S4 has a larger battery and newer hardware.
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Jaggar345 said:
It looks normal to me. Usually the people that are saying they get good battery life are the ones that are on a custom Rom and a custom kernel. From my findings the stock Rom especially with the net updates battery life seems to be worse with each update. One really good combination I have run that yields amazing battery life is CM11 and crpalmers kernel. That combination will give amazing battery life. It also depends on what you use your phone for. Judging by your screen shots thing look pretty normal. I would try giving battery guru a go in the market of you want to get some more juice. Let it learn your habits and it will help with you battery life.
You also have to remember as the device ages and you recharge the battery you can't expect it to remain fantastic like the first day you got it. Like anything else they wear down over time and can only go through so many charging cycles.
Or it may just be your battery starting to go bad. Its hard to pin point what may be wrong. It may be as simple as a rogue app. Try some of the suggestions I mentioned above and post back to let us know how your doing. If your not rubbing a custom Rom I recommend switching to one. They are packed with features and the battery life is generally better.
Anyways good luck. Post back if you have any more questions.
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Thanks for the info guys i'll keep that stuff in mind. I've tried several times to S-Off and flash a custom ROM but every time I try, firewater or rumrunner or whatever im using that time always says 'connection failed.' I've been unable to find any fix for why it's failing, so i've kind of given up. Any chance you guys can link to any super simple instructions?
Like I honestly don't understand temproot and those things. thanks!
mulhiny said:
100% agree. Especially with the updates leading to worse battery life.
I recently switched to the DNA from an S4. Unlocked and S off'd. Flashed 4.4.2 Rom and immediately noticed how awful battery was in comparison to my Samsung. I actually flashed an older jellybean Rom with Sense 4+ and now I'm experiencing battery life as good as my S4, even though the S4 has a larger battery and newer hardware.
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Thanks for the info guys i'll keep that stuff in mind. I've tried several times to S-Off and flash a custom ROM but every time I try, firewater or rumrunner or whatever im using that time always says 'connection failed.' I've been unable to find any fix for why it's failing, so i've kind of given up. Any chance you guys can link to any super simple instructions?
Like I honestly don't understand temproot and those things. thanks!
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In general there is a thread titled "am I too late to root" where I tried to explain the process to another poster the best I can.
couldn't hurt to give it a read. Maybe it will help you.
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In general there is a thread titled "am I too late to root" where I tried to explain the process to another poster the best I can.
couldn't hurt to give it a read. Maybe it will help you.
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Getting a little stuck... Did the Weaksauce part, and downloaded the firewater file... what do I do now? I copied firewater to my SD card, what command window do I use? I really don't get exactly what to do...
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Getting a little stuck... Did the Weaksauce part, and downloaded the firewater file... what do I do now? I copied firewater to my SD card, what command window do I use? I really don't get exactly what to do...
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I really don't know how to explain it any better than I did in that thread. On page 2, I wrote a complete step by step..the file goes into your sdk folder and then you run the command while in fast boot..I posted links and all in that thread. I don't know how to help further.
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I really don't know how to explain it any better than I did in that thread. On page 2, I wrote a complete step by step..the file goes into your sdk folder and then you run the command while in fast boot..I posted links and all in that thread. I don't know how to help further.
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Sorry, just found the step-by-step. Thanks. Fingers crossed!
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Sorry, just found the step-by-step. Thanks. Fingers crossed!
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So did it work?!