I've heard varying reports of how long peoples' batteries last, anywhere from 9 hours to 3 days. But what seems to be the common theme is that if you use your phone pretty frequently, you'll get maybe 10 hrs, but if you use the phone sporadically and not for long periods of time, you can expect the phone to last through the day and even maybe the next. But with mine I've found that the battery on average will last me maybe 10 hours, but that's with slight to almost no use. From what people have said online, the screen is what sucks up battery, but when I check with GSam Battery Monitor, my screen never seems to break 30% of my battery use. Apps are what usually take up ~45% of my battery. What's up with this? I don't wanna have to buy that stupid Mugen case, because it apparently sucks, but there are literally no other options to extend my battery... any advice? Will post screenshots. Thanks!
GSam screenshots
Also, as you can see, the individual app %'s don't add up to the huge number that Apps is taking up... is that related/significant?
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Also, as you can see, the individual app %'s don't add up to the huge number that Apps is taking up... is that related/significant?
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It looks normal to me. Usually the people that are saying they get good battery life are the ones that are on a custom Rom and a custom kernel. From my findings the stock Rom especially with the net updates battery life seems to be worse with each update. One really good combination I have run that yields amazing battery life is CM11 and crpalmers kernel. That combination will give amazing battery life. It also depends on what you use your phone for. Judging by your screen shots thing look pretty normal. I would try giving battery guru a go in the market of you want to get some more juice. Let it learn your habits and it will help with you battery life.
You also have to remember as the device ages and you recharge the battery you can't expect it to remain fantastic like the first day you got it. Like anything else they wear down over time and can only go through so many charging cycles.
Or it may just be your battery starting to go bad. Its hard to pin point what may be wrong. It may be as simple as a rogue app. Try some of the suggestions I mentioned above and post back to let us know how your doing. If your not rubbing a custom Rom I recommend switching to one. They are packed with features and the battery life is generally better.
Anyways good luck. Post back if you have any more questions.
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It looks normal to me. Usually the people that are saying they get good battery life are the ones that are on a custom Rom and a custom kernel. From my findings the stock Rom especially with the net updates battery life seems to be worse with each update..
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100% agree. Especially with the updates leading to worse battery life.
I recently switched to the DNA from an S4. Unlocked and S off'd. Flashed 4.4.2 Rom and immediately noticed how awful battery was in comparison to my Samsung. I actually flashed an older jellybean Rom with Sense 4+ and now I'm experiencing battery life as good as my S4, even though the S4 has a larger battery and newer hardware.
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Jaggar345 said:
It looks normal to me. Usually the people that are saying they get good battery life are the ones that are on a custom Rom and a custom kernel. From my findings the stock Rom especially with the net updates battery life seems to be worse with each update. One really good combination I have run that yields amazing battery life is CM11 and crpalmers kernel. That combination will give amazing battery life. It also depends on what you use your phone for. Judging by your screen shots thing look pretty normal. I would try giving battery guru a go in the market of you want to get some more juice. Let it learn your habits and it will help with you battery life.
You also have to remember as the device ages and you recharge the battery you can't expect it to remain fantastic like the first day you got it. Like anything else they wear down over time and can only go through so many charging cycles.
Or it may just be your battery starting to go bad. Its hard to pin point what may be wrong. It may be as simple as a rogue app. Try some of the suggestions I mentioned above and post back to let us know how your doing. If your not rubbing a custom Rom I recommend switching to one. They are packed with features and the battery life is generally better.
Anyways good luck. Post back if you have any more questions.
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Thanks for the info guys i'll keep that stuff in mind. I've tried several times to S-Off and flash a custom ROM but every time I try, firewater or rumrunner or whatever im using that time always says 'connection failed.' I've been unable to find any fix for why it's failing, so i've kind of given up. Any chance you guys can link to any super simple instructions?
Like I honestly don't understand temproot and those things. thanks!
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100% agree. Especially with the updates leading to worse battery life.
I recently switched to the DNA from an S4. Unlocked and S off'd. Flashed 4.4.2 Rom and immediately noticed how awful battery was in comparison to my Samsung. I actually flashed an older jellybean Rom with Sense 4+ and now I'm experiencing battery life as good as my S4, even though the S4 has a larger battery and newer hardware.
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Thanks for the info guys i'll keep that stuff in mind. I've tried several times to S-Off and flash a custom ROM but every time I try, firewater or rumrunner or whatever im using that time always says 'connection failed.' I've been unable to find any fix for why it's failing, so i've kind of given up. Any chance you guys can link to any super simple instructions?
Like I honestly don't understand temproot and those things. thanks!
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In general there is a thread titled "am I too late to root" where I tried to explain the process to another poster the best I can.
couldn't hurt to give it a read. Maybe it will help you.
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mulhiny said:
In general there is a thread titled "am I too late to root" where I tried to explain the process to another poster the best I can.
couldn't hurt to give it a read. Maybe it will help you.
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Getting a little stuck... Did the Weaksauce part, and downloaded the firewater file... what do I do now? I copied firewater to my SD card, what command window do I use? I really don't get exactly what to do...
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Getting a little stuck... Did the Weaksauce part, and downloaded the firewater file... what do I do now? I copied firewater to my SD card, what command window do I use? I really don't get exactly what to do...
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I really don't know how to explain it any better than I did in that thread. On page 2, I wrote a complete step by step..the file goes into your sdk folder and then you run the command while in fast boot..I posted links and all in that thread. I don't know how to help further.
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I really don't know how to explain it any better than I did in that thread. On page 2, I wrote a complete step by step..the file goes into your sdk folder and then you run the command while in fast boot..I posted links and all in that thread. I don't know how to help further.
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Sorry, just found the step-by-step. Thanks. Fingers crossed!
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Sorry, just found the step-by-step. Thanks. Fingers crossed!
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So did it work?!
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I own a Droid 3 but my dad has the x2 and he needs better battery life so I plan on rooting the phone and putting a custom rom on it for him so I wanted to know which rom would be best for him. He uses e mail phone calls and texts a lot and sometimes YouTube videos. If someone could post links for the best suited rom for him along with any scripts that help performance as well as battery that would be great. Also, do I need to install a custom recovery from somewhere else or do I use cwm from rom manager?
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Here is everything you need for this phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313103
Any rom will essentially have better battery life since they are all pretty much stripped down versions of the stock ROM. I suggest eclipse. The speedy script and battery fix script are very highly recommended too.
EDIT: Rom Manager doesnt really work with the Droid X2. So you will need the Bootstrap Recovery in the link I posted.
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Here is everything you need for this phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1313103
Any rom will essentially have better battery life since they are all pretty much stripped down versions of the stock ROM. I suggest eclipse. The speedy script and battery fix script are very highly recommended too.
EDIT: Rom Manager doesnt really work with the Droid X2. So you will need the Bootstrap Recovery in the link I posted.
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Thanks, there's a lot of scripts, which would u recommend flashing over the eclipse rom?
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The battery fix is a must if you want accurate reading. I am running eclipse 1.3 with speedy v7. Also v6 supercharger but that is more for my gaming. And also the mash up v .5 I am getting between 10-14 hrs on a charge and that is pretty heavy use. On my day off I can go between 8 and 10 hrs but that is very heavy use then. Oh ya make sure you wipe battery stats when you flash or calibrate it after.
All are safe to use, which is why they were put in that thread. Just read every threads OP before flashing since they usually have instructions to wipe certain things. And I believe the mash up script tells you to turn wifi off before flashing. Just read and you will be good.
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All are safe to use, which is why they were put in that thread. Just read every threads OP before flashing since they usually have instructions to wipe certain things. And I believe the mash up script tells you to turn wifi off before flashing. Just read and you will be good.
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+1 thanks I should of mentioned that.
Ive had my best battery life with Eclipse. Ive been pulling 20+ hours with moderate use. Mostly texting, checking some web pages and trolling XDA and Facebook.
Ive also seen an increase from turning off network provided time under date/time in settings.
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Ive had my best battery life with Eclipse. Ive been pulling 20+ hours with moderate use. Mostly texting, checking some web pages and trolling XDA and Facebook.
Ive also seen an increase from turning off network provided time under date/time in settings.
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I can vouch for the turning off of "network provided time"if settings. It seems the phone "sleeps" better when it is idle.
Also another way to ensure better battery life is by getting into the habit of REBOOTING the phone(power off/on) after EVERY TIME you take it off of the charger. There is a thread explaining why this helps ...I just don't feel like looking for it right now sorry lol
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I can vouch for the turning off of "network provided time"if settings. It seems the phone "sleeps" better when it is idle.
Also another way to ensure better battery life is by getting into the habit of REBOOTING the phone(power off/on) after EVERY TIME you take it off of the charger. There is a thread explaining why this helps ...I just don't feel like looking for it right now sorry lol
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Does the unplugging go for all droids? That's interesting that turning it off helps battery haha I assume its cause it stops everything that's running.
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I think this might be the thread ash is talking about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225689&highlight=battery+life
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I think this might be the thread ash is talking about.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1225689&highlight=battery+life
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Ya I found that. Is that same issue in the custom roms or just the stock?
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Ya I found that. Is that same issue in the custom roms or just the stock?
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I think its a problem with stock GB (seems to be a few issues with stock). But it transfers over to the ROMs because there is no fix for it yet other than to restart.
What is currently, in your opinion, is the best ROM, as of late?
I'm currently using the latest of Bulletproof. Flashed it, wiped battery stats (It was at a 100). Lasted me _roughly_ a day. It was off a few hours.
But, I'm wondering what others are like.
Primary things I look for :
Faster/Better Performance overall.
Longer-lasting Battery.
Thats about it, and I know those two are pretty much contradictions, cause the better the performance, the faster your battery drains (or atleast, how I comprehend all this..)
Any suggestions are really appreciated Thank you.
And to all the developer's - Keep on doing what you're doing. I'm quite impressed with the current ROM selection. I know there are issues with S-Off and what not, but, to see as many ROMs as there are in here, that is quite nice. Great job guys!
Install Beastmod and if you don't like appearance and functionality, get a Go launcher and install it.
With the Beastmod you get about 3% battery consumption with 8 hours standby
And I'm using stock battery came with the box
papcoz said:
Install Beastmod and if you don't like appearance and functionality, get a Go launcher and install it.
With the Beastmod you get about 3% battery consumption with 8 hours standby
And I'm using stock battery came with the box
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Yep, that's probably your best bet
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Okay. Flashed it. Yaya. Looks great and is smooth. I'll see how the battery holds soon nuff.
What do you guys have under your kernel thing? I'm not sure if I'm flashing the kernel right. Q_Q
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Okay. Flashed it. Yaya. Looks great and is smooth. I'll see how the battery holds soon nuff.
What do you guys have under your kernel thing? I'm not sure if I'm flashing the kernel right. Q_Q
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If your wifi works then you have the right kernel.
Use the Easy Kernel Flasher* to flash the proper kernels.
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papcoz said:
Install Beastmod and if you don't like appearance and functionality, get a Go launcher and install it.
With the Beastmod you get about 3% battery consumption with 8 hours standby
And I'm using stock battery came with the box
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wow gotta get me beast mod!!! I did not try it for that long..thanks
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If your wifi works then you have the right kernel.
Use the Easy Kernel Flasher* to flash the proper kernels.
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Okay, then yeah I did flash the right Kernel. Thank you. Gonna test this out for a good while.
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Okay, then yeah I did flash the right Kernel. Thank you. Gonna test this out for a good while.
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lol not build that build haha gonna be making new update for it soon
i just followed binary's guide and it worked perfect and installed bulletproof.
the whole process took me about 15 mintues with downloading and reading!
i'll admit the instructions were looked intimidating but i think it's because it's set up to be so easy to understand.
Thanks guys!
I sacrifice GPS hotspot Bluetooth and USB mounting for beats audio on bliss sense 3.5 its not the best atm cuz it alpha 1 but bulletproof is good to.
For battery life i use batter defender with bliss. I does help with the battery It lasted me all day today in florida and I posted 30 Pics total throughout the day on facebook.
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I have fourth bar sense from ( ics for amaze) on mine. I listen to music for couple hours, wifi on for couple hours..heavy texting, facebook and calls every now and then..battery lasts for one full day..impressed with the rom. Only this I miss is the HTC Sense.. :-( besides that, I have no complains with the rom ..
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My phone's battery is draining drastically. Immediately i start doing something with the phone, the battery starts draining heavily. The highest i can get is about 4 hours of use. I've considered buying the Mugen Power 1950mAh Extended
Battery for the Amaze 4G but i want to know if anyone can testify that the battery actually does what they promised. The phone is gradually driving me crazy. I've even tried different roms, no of them stopped the battery drain. I just need testimonies on this battery or any other 100% sure method that can work.. thanks!
freekizito said:
My phone's battery is draining drastically. Immediately i start doing something with the phone, the battery starts draining heavily. The highest i can get is about 4 hours of use. I've considered buying the Mugen Power 1950mAh Extended
Battery for the Amaze 4G but i want to know if anyone can testify that the battery actually does what they promised. The phone is gradually driving me crazy. I've even tried different roms, no of them stopped the battery drain. I just need testimonies on this battery or any other 100% sure method that can work.. thanks!
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Mine last only bout 2-3 hours :s from whre you actually going to buy that mugen battery??
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From their site, but need confirmation
ravike14 said:
Mine last only bout 2-3 hours :s from whre you actually going to buy that mugen battery??
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From their website, but i need confirmation from people who have used it. I wonder what is really causing this battery drain. Is it the screen or what? I've even lowered my screen brightness. The phone uses same battery with the sensation but the sensation lasts much longer. I really need help! Something that works!
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From their website, but i need confirmation from people who have used it. I wonder what is really causing this battery drain. Is it the screen or what? I've even lowered my screen brightness. The phone uses same battery with the sensation but the sensation lasts much longer. I really need help! Something that works!
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Well they have only the 3600 or something like that when I last watched :/ ther people are having a great battery life either our stock battery sucks big time or a hardware circuit short I hope it's not something like that :S
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freekizito said:
From their website, but i need confirmation from people who have used it. I wonder what is really causing this battery drain. Is it the screen or what? I've even lowered my screen brightness. The phone uses same battery with the sensation but the sensation lasts much longer. I really need help! Something that works!
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Even though the sensation battery does work on the amaze, it is smaller than stock amaze battery. Secondly, are you on the latest updated radio and base build? What ROM are you running? If you want decent battery life then try speedrom, miui (older version haven't tried the new one), sense 4 ROM and cm10 has decent battery life as well given you have the right settings enabled. If you keep your 4g data connection on all the time then you will end up with horrendous battery life on any ROM; good luck
Don't get mugen, go to eBay and get EC battery (1900mA). I got a package that included 2 EC branded batteries and a separate dock charger (basically you can charge one battery while using the other in phone) for only 16 bucks and battery life is way better than the stock on these cheap Chinese batteries (I get anywhere between 3 to 3 1/2 hours of screen on time on average and a total time of around 16-17 hours with that kind of usage which is amazing and I have been using these batteries for about 6 months)
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hatlesssandman said:
Even though the sensation battery does work on the amaze, it is smaller than stock amaze battery. Secondly, are you on the latest updated radio and base build? What ROM are you running? If you want decent battery life then try speedrom, miui (older version haven't tried the new one), sense 4 ROM and cm10 has decent battery life as well given you have the right settings enabled. If you keep your 4g data connection on all the time then you will end up with horrendous battery life on any ROM; good luck
Don't get mugen, go to eBay and get EC battery (1900mA). I got a package that included 2 EC branded batteries and a separate dock charger (basically you can charge one battery while using the other in phone) for only 16 bucks and battery life is way better than the stock on these cheap Chinese batteries (I get anywhere between 3 to 3 1/2 hours of screen on time on average and a total time of around 16-17 hours with that kind of usage which is amazing and I have been using these batteries for about 6 months)
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please how do i get the latest radio and base build? am running energy rom now.. i've tried nightmare sense, go sense and speed rom. all gave me a poor battery life.. as for CM10, i dont even know where to get it, all i see is the CM9 which is still unstable.... please help me if you can. Thanks..
ravike14 said:
Well they have only the 3600 or something like that when I last watched :/ ther people are having a great battery life either our stock battery sucks big time or a hardware circuit short I hope it's not something like that :S
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they said it would be available on the 26th of this month
you have not replied me yet
hatlesssandman said:
Even though the sensation battery does work on the amaze, it is smaller than stock amaze battery. Secondly, are you on the latest updated radio and base build? What ROM are you running? If you want decent battery life then try speedrom, miui (older version haven't tried the new one), sense 4 ROM and cm10 has decent battery life as well given you have the right settings enabled. If you keep your 4g data connection on all the time then you will end up with horrendous battery life on any ROM; good luck
Don't get mugen, go to eBay and get EC battery (1900mA). I got a package that included 2 EC branded batteries and a separate dock charger (basically you can charge one battery while using the other in phone) for only 16 bucks and battery life is way better than the stock on these cheap Chinese batteries (I get anywhere between 3 to 3 1/2 hours of screen on time on average and a total time of around 16-17 hours with that kind of usage which is amazing and I have been using these batteries for about 6 months)
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you have not replied me yet
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you have not replied me yet
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S off or s on??
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S off or s on??
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it is S-OFF...
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it is S-OFF...
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Well if your on a tmobile firmware just download the firmware from arhd thread and rename it PH85IMG.zip and run it from bootloader if your not in a tmobile firmware according to my knowledge it's best if you run a tmobile ruu and then proceed
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ravike14 said:
Well if your on a tmobile firmware just download the firmware from arhd thread and rename it PH85IMG.zip and run it from bootloader if your not in a tmobile firmware according to my knowledge it's best if you run a tmobile ruu and then proceed
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can you post a link to the thread please? and am currently running energy ROM...
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can you post a link to the thread please? and am currently running energy ROM...
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Follow my guide here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39789671
And download ARHD from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342291
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Follow my guide here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39789671
And download ARHD from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342291
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thanks for your help.. before i proceed, let me explain exactly how the battery drain happens....
when i charge it up to 100%, immediately i unplug it and leave it for 5 minutes without use, it goes down to 96%, and soon goes down to 89% within another few minutes and continues that way.. when am using the phone, the battery drain is even worse. what do you think? should i still proceed with your method?
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thanks for your help.. before i proceed, let me explain exactly how the battery drain happens....
when i charge it up to 100%, immediately i unplug it and leave it for 5 minutes without use, it goes down to 96%, and soon goes down to 89% within another few minutes and continues that way.. when am using the phone, the battery drain is even worse. what do you think? should i still proceed with your method?
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The latest OTA update from tmobile did a lot of optimization for our Rom. Battery sees an improvement. Follow my guide and report back. ARHD 4.0 is based off of the latest OTA and I can't complain.
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The latest OTA update from tmobile did a lot of optimization for our Rom. Battery sees an improvement. Follow my guide and report back. ARHD 4.0 is based off of the latest OTA and I can't complain.
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Sorry i've been out of town for a while so i've not done what you asked me to... please, am kinda new to this whole thing...do u mean i should flash the ARHD after doing the one in the other thread you posted? it even says i should relock the amaze which i dont know how to do. please i need your step by step guide to avoid any mistakes.. just tell me what to do..... you are my only hope right now.. Thanks, and dont be angry with me for being a novice..
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Sorry i've been out of town for a while so i've not done what you asked me to... please, am kinda new to this whole thing...do u mean i should flash the ARHD after doing the one in the other thread you posted? it even says i should relock the amaze which i dont know how to do. please i need your step by step guide to avoid any mistakes.. just tell me what to do..... you are my only hope right now.. Thanks, and dont be angry with me for being a novice..
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All these instructions are for the HTC Amaze. I am on the T-Mobile North American version.
If my instructions below cause thermal nuclear war I am not responsible for what you did or didn't do.
Here is my guide updated.
Obtaining S-Off and being SuperCID allow for this process to run smoothly as well as having 4ext as your recovery.
S-Off http://unlimited.io/juopunutbear.htm
SuperCID http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25154672&postcount=1
Hasoon's AIO Toolkit helps you accomplish a lot of these steps quickly. http://d-h.st/8d0
1. RELOCK Amaze (On your computer with htc drivers installed and your device in fastboot and connected to your computer enter
Code:
fastboot oem lock
2. Download 2.14.531.3 from here http://d-h.st/z70 CHECK MD5 SUMS!!!!!!!!
3. Renamed it to PH85IMG.zip
4. Place it onto SD-Card
5. Reboot into bootloader.
6. Let bootloader find the update and let it finish its update.
7. Reboot phone.
8. Go to Settings>About Phone>Software update and checked for updates.
9. Download the system update for 30 megs and install the update.
10. Allow devices to finish update
11. Software number is 2.14.531.30 710RD
12. Baseband version is 1.15.550L.08DC_30.80.550L16D
13. Build number 2.14.531.30 CL449991
14. Unlock your device with Hasoons AIO Kit.
15. Update recovery to 4ext. (Use Hasoons AIO toolkit)
16. Download ARHD 4.0 from here
17. CHECK MD5 SUMS!!!!!!!!
18. Place it onto your sd-card
19. Flash in 4ext recovery
20. Let device boot.
21. Enjoy ARHD 4.0
So I just got my HTC one on Sunday night. The first thing I did is let the battery charge up and then drained it to less than 3% and recharged. Ive been getting horrible battery usage since Sunday and am starting to worry that I might have a hw issue. For example, today I woke up at 5:30 and unplugged my phone. Its now 10:15 and I am at less than 30% with less than 30min of screen time (in battery save mode). Should I just go back and replace with my 30 day warranty? Or should I try to calibrate it? I have yet to root it because I just got it, so no custom kernels or roms that might be draining it. The idle and HTC Sense seem to be the programs draining it the worst based on the stock battery usage report.
Give it a few cycles
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I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
ExcelonGT said:
I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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I don't know the exact mechanics of it but battery life almost always improves after using it for a little while, that's the way phones work
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Wow, that's a lot. You may want to check apps running in the background. The culprit on mine is the Kernel and there's nothing I can do about it.
I'm actually getting pretty much the same battery life. Prior to the update my average was 13 hrs. 4 hrs screen time. All on stock.
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I've never heard of the whole settling of the battery with my previous phones. Usually just the whole make sure to drain it all the way the first time and get a full charge, then it would be good. That being said, I could very well be wrong and you may be right, but if it is a hardware issue I would like to return before its too late
ExcelonGT said:
I really dont understand the "give it a few cycles" or "let it settle in" statements when it comes to battery life. This is software, not some mechanical machine. how does cycles or settling in effect anything? Can someone please explain
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a battery is not software
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I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
ExcelonGT said:
I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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i'm not 100% sure but my assumption would be that, new ROMs change your phone entirely. they assign different values to resources, it pretty much changes everything that your battery has grown custom to, so maybe the battery needs to settle in and get used to how resources are now being used.
i also notice reduce battery life. went back to 4.1.2.
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i also notice reduce battery life. went back to 4.1.2.
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Thinking of downgrade too
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Yeah, this is obviously not a good thing
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Me the same. Andoird system has the most battery consumption...! Any solution?
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ExcelonGT said:
I see how this could make sense for a device that is fresh from the factory (no cycles on it)
I'm referring to when someone has had a device for months and flashes a new ROM. people use the "let it settle" justification for when new roms are flashed. I'm just trying to understand what exactly happens during this "settling" period improves battery life over time
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It's mainly for the kernel. It has to run thousands of lines of new code, build the caches, add thumbnails, sync all your stuff, etc. It usually doesn't take a few cycles though, just one.
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It's a reported problem with several devices from what I've researched.the nexus 4 and 7 have had the same issues.Sprint has acknowledged the issue also.now it's just a waiting game.
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When I updated to 4.3 my battery life was horrible. I would get 3 hours and it was dead. I factory reset and all is well! I've been on battery for 11 hours and have 40% left!
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As people have said, you have to let it go through a few cycles before it proforms stably. When I first got mine it was the same situation you describe, couldn't even make it through half a day without charging. Without changing anything (seriously, everything is still stock), that increased to regularly getting 40hrs per charge with about 2hrs screen on time. I could claim that the software is learning or that the hardware handling the battery is improving, but I don't know, I just know that this is a pretty universal phenomenon and it is real. And for me 4.3 had only made it better (not much though, but definitely not worse).
Just give it time, it's about to get good
Also, I can tell you from my tests earlier on that wifi was one of my biggest battery drains, so I just don't use it at all now. But you could just get in the habit of turning it off at certain times or get tasker to handle that). Also power saver is useful, I do notice it slow down but only in the text message app, everything else is still very smooth and fast. And yes, even now the Android system averages 80% of total drain for me. A large portion of that is wakelocks, and there's lots of excellent tutorials on xda about how to find and deal with some of them. Personally I've made my peace with the ones I encounter, so although people tell me losing 5-8%overnight to them is too much, I'm fine with that. Again, much better now than my initial use led me to believe.
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It's mainly for the kernel. It has to run thousands of lines of new code, build the caches, add thumbnails, sync all your stuff, etc. It usually doesn't take a few cycles though, just one.
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Makes sense. Thanks
If it's draining as fast as you say suggestion is charge it up, put it in airplane mode over night. If it still drains, bring it back for a replacement.
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Im new here and Ive been lurking around in the forums. I just installed jb v4 on my note i717. Any idea on how I can get the smartassv2 govenour and the sio scheduler? I dont have any of those and Id really like to have more battery life. And if not is there a kernel I can flash to have it and thats compatible with my rom? Im using trickster mod btw, Thanks!!
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Im new here and Ive been lurking around in the forums. I just installed jb v4 on my note i717. Any idea on how I can get the smartassv2 govenour and the sio scheduler? I dont have any of those and Id really like to have more battery life. And if not is there a kernel I can flash to have it and thats compatible with my rom? Im using trickster mod btw, Thanks!!
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I have already directed you to the only alternate kernel that is going to work with Padawan. I am definitely no developer, but it would take a lot of effort just to extract those little options, not to mention the permission of the developer, and it would then most likely have to be installed into another kernel that could be compatible with Padawan.
I am not sure what it is that you are so intent on having those options for, I am sure you have your reasons. not sure that anything else is going to give you better battery life on a 4.1.2 rom. it seems with the progression from 4.0 through 4.4, the battery life is going to diminish a bit with every evolvement.
can I suggest maybe you try Black Jelly. the different rom may provide you that option. if not, Blownfuse has an alternate kernel list in that OP which was designed specifically for that rom.
good luck
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I have already directed you to the only alternate kernel that is going to work with Padawan. I am definitely no developer, but it would take a lot of effort just to extract those little options, not to mention the permission of the developer, and it would then most likely have to be installed into another kernel that could be compatible with Padawan.
I am not sure what it is that you are so intent on having those options for, I am sure you have your reasons. not sure that anything else is going to give you better battery life on a 4.1.2 rom. it seems with the progression from 4.0 through 4.4, the battery life is going to diminish a bit with every evolvement.
can I suggest maybe you try Black Jelly. the different rom may provide you that option. if not, Blownfuse has an alternate kernel list in that OP which was designed specifically for that rom.
good luck
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Ok. I had posted this before I asked you. But what do you recommend? Should i go back to ics? Im more about battery life but features are nice to.
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Ok. I had posted this before I asked you. But what do you recommend? Should i go back to ics? Im more about battery life but features are nice to.
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My friend, its your phone. Out side of the governer and scheduler, battery life is the only feature you are bringing up. What kind of user are you?
Heavy video streamer
Big time gamer
Lots of music
Facebook addict
Various roms are going to provide various results. And no 2 devices are going to react the same. I know, folks have said this before, so sorry to repeat.
For what is may be worth, here is my rundown
4.O ICS ... most stable but may be lacking in some features
4.1.2 JB ... touchwiz based, the most stable JB your going to get
4.2.1 JB ... more features evolving into, but most unstable. Some able to control with alternate kernel. Battery life dwindling.
4.3 JB ... increased smoothness and improved stability. Still able to control with an alternate kernel to a certain extent. To me it started to become like medication. The phone seemed to build up a tolerance and stability would decrease. Decreased battery life.
4.4 KK .... did not have a problem with stability, but battery life has really suffered as is the complaint of many.
No rom is going to be 100% perfect. It is more of what can you tolerate for an inadequacy.
I love my music, I FB quite often, I'm on XDA several time a day and I have been catching a few minutes of Youtube.
My phone ran ORGASMIC on Padawan and I did enjoy Hellybean also. To me, battery is like gasoline, nobody is getting any better than me. Everybody pays the same at the pump. You can always get a Ravpower battery 2700 from Amazon for $8 and many swear it increase battery life immensely.
Wow, did I go on and on or what?
So what kind of user are you?
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My friend, its your phone. Out side of the governer and scheduler, battery life is the only feature you are bringing up. What kind of user are you?
Heavy video streamer
Big time gamer
Lots of music
Facebook addict
Various roms are going to provide various results. And no 2 devices are going to react the same. I know, folks have said this before, so sorry to repeat.
For what is may be worth, here is my rundown
4.O ICS ... most stable but may be lacking in some features
4.1.2 JB ... touchwiz based, the most stable JB your going to get
4.2.1 JB ... more features evolving into, but most unstable. Some able to control with alternate kernel. Battery life dwindling.
4.3 JB ... increased smoothness and improved stability. Still able to control with an alternate kernel to a certain extent. To me it started to become like medication. The phone seemed to build up a tolerance and stability would decrease. Decreased battery life.
4.4 KK .... did not have a problem with stability, but battery life has really suffered as is the complaint of many.
No rom is going to be 100% perfect. It is more of what can you tolerate for an inadequacy.
I love my music, I FB quite often, I'm on XDA several time a day and I have been catching a few minutes of Youtube.
My phone ran ORGASMIC on Padawan and I did enjoy Hellybean also. To me, battery is like gasoline, nobody is getting any better than me. Everybody pays the same at the pump. You can always get a Ravpower battery 2700 from Amazon for $8 and many swear it increase battery life immensely.
Wow, did I go on and on or what?
So what kind of user are you?
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Pretty much the same as you hah. All I care about is my music, facebook, with rededit and a glass of milk
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Pretty much the same as you hah. All I care about is my music, facebook, with rededit and a glass of milk
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I would just take a few for a test drive then. if you had a problem with Padawan and random reboots, then my guess is you either had a bad download or your not flashing clean. a dirty flash is going to leave some straggling files from previous rom which are most likely going to conflict.
but try some different roms and let them settle. give them a couple days. if its not going to work for you, try the next.
one rom just wouldn't run on my phone and that was Carbon Rom. I tried several different versions, with and without alternate kernels. always clean. many swear by it and love it, that's why I kept trying it, but it just did not like my phone. no biggie, plenty to choose from.
don't take this the wrong way, but if you the only one suffering from a side effect, than it is most likely user error. there are many glitches throughout all roms and they are usually well documented in that thread.
refer back to my last post in Padawan. again, my flashing process may be overkill, but you cant get much cleaner than that
if a battery gets me through the day, I am good
keep us posted
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I would just take a few for a test drive then. if you had a problem with Padawan and random reboots, then my guess is you either had a bad download or your not flashing clean. a dirty flash is going to leave some straggling files from previous rom which are most likely going to conflict.
but try some different roms and let them settle. give them a couple days. if its not going to work for you, try the next.
one rom just wouldn't run on my phone and that was Carbon Rom. I tried several different versions, with and without alternate kernels. always clean. many swear by it and love it, that's why I kept trying it, but it just did not like my phone. no biggie, plenty to choose from.
don't take this the wrong way, but if you the only one suffering from a side effect, than it is most likely user error. there are many glitches throughout all roms and they are usually well documented in that thread.
refer back to my last post in Padawan. again, my flashing process may be overkill, but you cant get much cleaner than that
if a battery gets me through the day, I am good
keep us posted
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Hey man. Just giving you an update. It turns out I had a bad battery. The middle of the battery was enlarging, I have no idea why. I got a new one and everything's working much better now. Have you heard of anything like that before?
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Hey man. Just giving you an update. It turns out I had a bad battery. The middle of the battery was enlarging, I have no idea why. I got a new one and everything's working much better now. Have you heard of anything like that before?
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Very common at about the 10 to 12 month mark. Battery starts to swell. You can get stronger battery for $8 on amazon.
Glad everything is working better, still want to stay clean though.
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