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Wondering if anyone has been able to do this, and if not, if they'd be able to get this working on the device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619285
I tried a few things based on my limited knowledge, but I had no luck.
I am trying the same thing as you are trying, only trying to get Android into the Mogul's internal memory (to replace WinMo), per the instructions found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
Would love any thoughts folks in the know might have.
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I am trying the same thing as you are trying, only trying to get Android into the Mogul's internal memory (to replace WinMo), per the instructions found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636024
Would love any thoughts folks in the know might have.
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Yea only one really big problem with running NAND Android on the Mogul (Titan). That link is for the Touch (Vogue).
We are stuck with the SD method for now. And anything above 1.6 runs really slow.
RyanMogul6800 said:
Yea only one really big problem with running NAND Android on the Mogul (Titan). That link is for the Touch (Vogue).
We are stuck with the SD method for now. And anything above 1.6 runs really slow.
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Good to know. I was wondering at the speed of the higher versions on the Titan. I think it would be cool to dual boot one of your ROMs with a 1.6 build.
Is anyone working on a NAND Android for the Titan?
i hope so... i got myns warm donut to work fine on my titan, but i had to do it from the sd card.. i figure all we need is a .nbh file, and we can nand this!
I have mssmison's eclair v7 (android 2.1) running off my SD card at a decent speed, i was suprised. its just about as fast as mym's warm donut build. im running a custom default.txt file and the eclair zimage and it seems to work well, not the fastest (fastest is probably the 1.5 ion build) but it works.
just outta curiosity (im a vogue user)
trying to help a friend with a mogul out.
You guys have a class 6 microsd? or is it class 4.
Speed ok with anything below a class 6 microsd?
Also did you guys partition it? ext2 or swap?
I really hope someone can add nand to the mogul.
im using a old class 2 microSD card, slow as hell but it dosent run extremely slow, i partioned ext2 and it ran at decent speeds, i want a better SD card so i can really see how android would run on the mogul but i dont have the money to (odviously or i wouldnt be using such a out of date piece of hardware)
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I have mssmison's eclair v7 (android 2.1) running off my SD card at a decent speed, i was suprised. its just about as fast as mym's warm donut build. im running a custom default.txt file and the eclair zimage and it seems to work well, not the fastest (fastest is probably the 1.5 ion build) but it works.
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Did you have to flash the NBH file to your phone to use this? If not could you post all the files you use?
I'm currently using the initial 1.5 version which is basic. It doesn't require flashing any files. All the files you need are just placed on the sd card.
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Did you have to flash the NBH file to your phone to use this? If not could you post all the files you use?
I'm currently using the initial 1.5 version which is basic. It doesn't require flashing any files. All the files you need are just placed on the sd card.
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um i dont think you can flash android on moguls yet; therefore no nbh can be used. I know nbh is becoming the newer way to have android on either nand or sd but the support isnt there yet for moguls.
The way the person above is using androind on the mogul is through the sd card. You have to (similar to the way you're using android on your phone now). I believe you are using haret.exe. Anyways to FULLY maximize performance for android on sd card, you have to partition the sd card (divide the sd card).
They way you're using it right now is only 1 partition (lets say you have a 2GB SD card formated to fat32 or ntfs).
However to make android run at decent speeds, you have to partition (divide that 2GB SD Card into 3 parts).
2GB SD card gets broken down and split up into:
*256MB formated to ext2 (instead of fat32)
*Another 256MB formated to ext2
*1536MB formated to FAT32 (where you put your data normally)
After you partitioned the sd card..... you now install android (instead of running it like you've been)
You run haret.exe as usual but theres and option to copy data and systemto the ex2 partitions you made on the sd card.
the 2 ext2 partitions above will be contain the android data and system files
and will make android run faster because android files are all in that partition and it doesnt have to search and filter through your user files.
In my signature theres a video on how to partition your sd card.... but you have to figure out how to get your sd card to detect on your computer..(via card reader or other methods)
Thanks for the info intimidatorx31. That helps out tremendously. However, on the newer builds of android that are posted, instead of having the traditional system.img and rootfs.img files there is an androidinstaller.tar. Do I now use that? Also, which files go on each of the 3 partitions? On all of the directions I've found have only stated to put the downloaded files in the "andboot" folder.
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Thanks for the info intimidatorx31. That helps out tremendously. However, on the newer builds of android that are posted, instead of having the traditional system.img and rootfs.img files there is an androidinstaller.tar. Do I now use that? Also, which files go on each of the 3 partitions? On all of the directions I've found have only stated to put the downloaded files in the "andboot" folder.
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You're right; forgot everything has moved to andboot folder setup with no more roofts as well.
Well the android rom im using (Myn's warm donut for the vogue) has
the classic sqsh files which is what YOU need to run it off sd card using haret.exe (running off sd card).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=619980
this is where the thread is
Heres the direct link to dwonload:http://download203.mediafire.com/9k22dfx80ymg/kzyxtqkzcwa/myn-WarmDonut-03-16-2010-SQSH.zip
for additional instructions go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648045
Remember if you are using off sd card its highly recommended to partition the sd card; so it doesnt have to search the entire sd card...itll just have to search within that partition you've created (ext2 partition which is recognized by android)
Thanks again for the info.
Lost trying to get Android 2.1 on my Titan!!!
I have mssmison's eclair v7 (android 2.1) running off my SD card at a decent speed, i was suprised. its just about as fast as mym's warm donut build. im running a custom default.txt file and the eclair zimage and it seems to work well, not the fastest (fastest is probably the 1.5 ion build) but it works
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have a few questions if anyone can help:
1. when i go here to get the myns warm donut version post am i supposed to use the SQSH version? if not i should be using the NoMoRootFs 240x320 version correct?
2. how do you install the mssmison's eclair or myn's warm doughnut? I just come back with errors each time.
3. what is the correct setup of the 3 partitions? I used partition manager 9 and made 3 partitions, but when i tried to install android there was no option to choose a partition.
4. is mssmison's more stable than myn's doughnut?
Sorry for all the questions, i'd love to mess around with android, but my last install was the myn's warm doughnut sqsh version, and it was installing for like 2 days....scrolling a bunch of files repeatedly it got up to 53276.1234 until i finally just said forget it, and rebooted. If anyone can help i'd be GREATLY appreciative!!
Thanks Gang!
miraclmoore, read the post a few above mine, it explains how to partion the SD card, and how i did it? custom default.txt, zimage for the mogul and a little technical knowldge, prettymuch all you have to do is put the androidinstall.tar in the andboot folder and run haret.exe then as soon as it vibrates press and hold the center button til the install screen appears, select to put data and system on ext2 and install it, runs with no errors (except completely randomly tty access errors when it first starts but those dont matter)
just wondering.....
nyterage..where did you find the custom default.txt and zimage for the mogul? considering all builds are for vogue, kaiser, and polaris? also when I use myns sqsh the system tries to create a new dataa store instead of just using the sqsh files like i've seen in others installations. I used partition manager 9 to partition my card. also do u need to give the 2 ext partitions drive letters? hope I am not asking stupid question as this is all a little new to me.
So am I completely boned if the down direction on my d pad is doesn't work? I can get to the install menu but then I can;t do anything at it
can someone provide a exact instructions on how to get a ppc 6800 titan.
i have spl-2.40
ppck 23569 image installed.
i couldnt get the android 1.5 to work from the "android packages" thread.
can someone say if this (android 2.1) or if android 1.5 working on the ppc 6800 titan thread.
if it is working please provide an exact instructions on how to get this working with the exact files needed for the sd card method im guessing.
I have the same problem
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So am I completely boned if the down direction on my d pad is doesn't work? I can get to the install menu but then I can;t do anything at it
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Any build I use when I get to the install screen to select where I want to install it, I cannot select anything. Only 2 things I can highlight in the list are install to NAND and quit.
The proper options are selected by default buy I cannot get to menu option 1 to do the install.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Hello all,
Is it possible to create 2 partitions on your sd card? One for WinMo and one for Android. To keep it all separated.
It doesn´t have to be partition it may also be a trick or something. For the root in android begins in /sdcard and in winmo /sdcard/winmo. As long the 2 different systems are separated.
But a lot of searching, read something about linux swap and ext2 partitions(but i believe it's for real roms not ports). And that winmo won't see any multi partition sd cards.
Thx in advance
Answer in the 5th post
You can simply create a folder called andboot and put all the android stuff in that folder and keep "winmo-stuff" in the root of your sd
wavesshock said:
You can simply create a folder called andboot and put all the android stuff in that folder and keep "winmo-stuff" in the root of your sd
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I know that, but a lot android apps are also creating folders in the root.
Christiaan91 said:
I know that, but a lot android apps are also creating folders in the root.
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Yea they kinda need to.
You can try to do two FAT32 partitions, but I don't think Windows/WinMo will see/understand the second partition - even if it is FAT32.
So you'd be kinda SOL trying to boot Android if WinMo can't see the partition... It might work, if you kick haret off from one partition to boot on the other... but kinda odd.
The ext2 solution isn't really a complete solution as it also depends on a FAT32 partition - I assume Android would still create folders on it in other words.
Just use separate SD's, problem solved .
Got it
It worked.
I made 2 FAT32 partitions. Primary for Android and Logical for WinMo.
WinMo recognizes them both, in file explorer as Storage card(Android) and Storage Card2(WinMo).
When you install an app in WinMo you get 3 choices, internal, SDcard and SDcard2.
The only problem you got is that Windows(PC) don't recognize the WinMo partition(it will recognize in activesync mode). So you first have to put all you WinMo apps on the android partition. And copy them to the WinMo partition in WinMo.
AFAIK everything is working fine.
Android doesn't see the WinMo partition
You can also try it. (I'm not responsible if anything goes wrong)
- Did it with this tool.
- I put my sd card in my computer (don't know if it works when you do it through your phone).
- MAKE A BACK-UP CUZ EVERYTHING IS GONE AFTER THIS!
- Delete the whole partition.
- Make a new partition, first the Android one*. Adjust the settings what you like, but put the partition primary.
- Then the WinMo partition. Adjust the settings what you like, but put the partition Logical.
- Now you're done. Put all the files on the android partition.
- SD card back in your phone and reboot.
- Now you can move the WinMo files, on your android partition, to the WinMo partition.
*When you do the WinMo Partition first and the android second, android will not boot.
Cool, glad you got it working. I'm certainly not going to do it, but perhaps others might!
Hi Guys,
I would have tacked this onto the back of an existing thread, but the only relevant ones I could find were in development (I’m still under 10 posts) – and this is more of a general usage question anyway.
I’m running CM7.0.2 and been I’ve been using Apps2SD (darktremor) for a month or so. The onboard memory for apps on the Legend is abysmal, so freeing space up and being able to have more than half a dozen apps is great. I was looking to take up Data2ext too. I’m still S-ON (I haven’t found a serious need for S-OFF yet, and I figure the less access I have to the bowels of my phone, the less likely I’m gonna brick it), so still using CWM2.x and obviously not running EXT4 yet.
Just wanted to ask a couple of stupid n00b questions before I try anything (I’d rather ask this now, then be posting “help I ****ed up my phone” later on).
- Am I right in believing that that data2ext only moves app data, not the apps themselves to the SD car so I need to continue using apps2sd as a companion script?
- Does data2ext need its own additional partition setting up prior – or does it create its own partition/utilize an existing partition? If there needs to be a preconfigured partition, any recommendations on how much space to allocate?
- Is there anything in particular that I need to know before I run through TGF’s guide (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=902395)?
Thanks for the help guys!
data2ext will use the partition that darktremor currently uses, and you don't want to have dark tremor and data2ext on at the same time, funny things happen.
Data2ext remounts the entire data partition to a partition on the SD card. So anything that gets written to /data (apps, app data etc) goes to the SD card instead.
You need to know that this could go wrong, but I think the first post covers most of it.
That makes sense. I previously wasn’t sure if data2ext only moved app data only, and apps2sd still needed to be used to move the actual apps themselves. As that’s not the case, it’ll make things much easier not having to **** around with 2 different scripts to hopefully get them to play nicely.
I did actually end up stepping up to Blayo’s fake-flash CWM 3.0.1.3 yesterday; though I’m still trying to work out partitions/file systems with it – creating partitions in CWM recovery defaults to EXT3 with no option to set EXT4, and after manually creating an EXT4 partition in GParted CWM wouldn’t let me mount /sd-ext. As your initial post already details formatting /sd-ext to EXT4 anyway, it’ll be interesting to see how nicely this plays with 3.0.1.3.
Thanks for the disclaimer on the risks involved. Without intending to sound patronising; I’m well aware there is the ever present potential to really **** things up, and that I do only have limited knowledge compared to a lot of people posting on xda – which is why I try and get any/all information available before hand, and follow instructions given closely.
Coo'. Just shout if you need help, I'm subscribed to this thread so I should see it
Seems to have worked like a charm.
One question though – I know you can confirm data2ext is successfully running by launching "data2ext --enable" a second time after the final reboot, but is there any means to monitor the used/available space on /sd-ext?
Both Titanium Backup and a2sdGUI allowed me to keep tabs on this, but Ti is unable to see the /sd-ext partition now (I haven’t bothered installing a2sdGUI, not really any point).
It might be a small thing, but if possible I would like to be able to see it fill up, just to give me piece of mind all is OK.
*edit* scratch that last part, just noticed Android and Ti now sees the Internal Memory as a total combined capacity the internal memory + /sd-ext. Eitherway, I'm up and running
i no my question is noob but still.....i m using CM7 nd CWM 2.5.0.7....if i use d optioned partition ur sd card....is dat data to ext ? ndnd wat is swap size ? also how to check what claSS SDCARD I HAVE... I HAVE 16GB KINGSTON SDCARD!
I've a noob question too, if the sd card is partitioned to allow some internal apps to run on this special partition what is currently the safest procedure to do this?
tushar_beriwal said:
i no my question is noob but still.....i m using CM7 nd CWM 2.5.0.7....if i use d optioned partition ur sd card....is dat data to ext ? ndnd wat is swap size ? also how to check what claSS SDCARD I HAVE... I HAVE 16GB KINGSTON SDCARD!
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The Class should be written on the Card.. in a circle..
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I got mine up and running last night... created a 1 gig partition for data... data2ext is active, but my phone is now SLOW as molasses. SD card is Class 10 and tests on a computer reveal it to be fast.
I'm at a loss.
Konowl said:
I got mine up and running last night... created a 1 gig partition for data... data2ext is active, but my phone is now SLOW as molasses. SD card is Class 10 and tests on a computer reveal it to be fast.
I'm at a loss.
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The card probably doesn't handle small files very well. Class 4 seems to be the best bet for data2ext
You're kidding. Ugh! Maybe it was the method I used to format?
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The card probably doesn't handle small files very well. Class 4 seems to be the best bet for data2ext
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Seriously?
So are you using a class 4 with your own cm data2ext script and in ext2 or ext4?
Serious.. It is mentioned several times before by Blay0. Even a fast card will work very slow with data2ext. Why do you even need data2ext? Are you a developed? If not app2ad should beer enough for you... NInge really needs data to be on as i they are not often changing system files..
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Serious.. It is mentioned several times before by Blay0. Even a fast card will work very slow with data2ext. Why do you even need data2ext? Are you a developed? If not app2ad should beer enough for you... NInge really needs data to be on as i they are not often changing system files..
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easy man, i was just asking out of curiosity
i'm already using apps2ext and dont need data2ext, but it thought data2ext was slow on all card classes thats why i asked his setup just so i know
Hi,
Since this is a noob thread I'm feeling free to ask for help.
Somehow without any knowledge I've managed to Root my Legend, Flash roms numerous times, make my Legend S-Off, twig and play with different options like splash screen and all sorts of stuff that you need a bit or more of development knowledge. I'm a psychologist - I have no knowledge whatsoever.
Now that I've flashed ogo2's rom found here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=987251, I have cut down internal space to about 20MB+-.
I need help with this whole data2ext, ext2/ext4 and all the commands I've never met in earlier development stuff I've done to my Legend.
Where do I start? Is there anywhere I can read a noob guide for these issues?
Please help!
reupugi
edit: Oh I forgot - I have 8 GB class 4 card.
What help do you need? Understanding what it is and how it works? Or just setting it up.
Are you planning on using the data2ext found in my thread, or somewhere else?
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Hi TGF,
I need help mainly with setting it up. I have no intention learning developing through trying here and there to implement different things others created.
My intention was to use the data2ext you created.
At the moment I've changed back to the nightly builds of CM7 (currently #153), since I had sync problems with ogo2's ROM. So I'm not so pressured space wise, but I'll still be glad to go through with the Data2ext.
Thanx,
reupugi
Ok, well the guide in the first post covers most of it, is there a specific bit you're stuck on?
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It assumes I understand how to create ext2 or ext4, or to choose between the two. DO I have to backup my SD card when I create an ext2/4 partition?
Where do I use the commands in your post of data2ext?
reupugi said:
It assumes I understand how to create ext2 or ext4, or to choose between the two. DO I have to backup my SD card when I create an ext2/4 partition?
Where do I use the commands in your post of data2ext?
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You do need to backup your sd card, our you lose all your data. Rom manager has an option for creating ext partitions on your sd card, and I'd go for ext4, as it's safer. There's a section in that thread on upgrading from the ext2 version. Create your position with rom manager, then follow that section through. The commands can be executed on the phone using a terminal emulator, or from the pc using adb.
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If you have been having issue with exfat card even after formatting it to fat32 this is probably the solution for you
The 64gb exfat card i have never worked on custom roms no matter what software i used to format it to fat32.
But finally it worked with this one software, Just make sure you follow the instruction correctly.
http://software-files-a.cnet.com/s/...&pid=12572695&psid=10863346&&fileName=epm.exe
First use easeus to delete the partion in 64 gb card.
then Click Start menu, select Run and enter diskmgmt.msc
You need to find the disk with unallocated space. Right click on it and select "New Partition" and follow these steps, clicking "Next"
Enter the maximum size for the Partition Size
Choose assign a drive letter. I used F:
Select "Do not Format this partition"
Click Finish
Now you have a drive letter, this is what we will pass to the formatter
http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/download/fat32format.zip
Now download a copy of fat32format. Extract the EXE file to C:\
Click Start->Run and enter cmd (as admin)
type this - C:\fat32format f:
enter y to continue
Now the sd card should work on phone.
Source: http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm
Thanks to DroidGnome for linking me this site.
An easier alternative which doesn't require CMD or the use of multiple tools is HP Usb Format Utility:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/HP-USB-Disk-Storage-Format-Tool.shtml
d4fseeker said:
An easier alternative which doesn't require CMD or the use of multiple tools is HP Usb Format Utility:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/HP-USB-Disk-Storage-Format-Tool.shtml
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If it works then sure. i already used 3 recommended softwares all failed so i dont know if this will work.
Thanks for this guide
I always format and re-partition in Linux ...
I always format and re-partition in Linux ... and currently all my large microSD cards have been re-partitioned with the following layout:
- free space (4 MB on 32GB, 16 MB on 64GB - since that's how those came from factory )
- main partition (primary partition 1 - I format that as Fat32 in Linux but then I go to Win7 and re-format to exFat; exFat works perfectly in Android 4.x from Samsung (and good mods) and the CWM recovery from CrisKelo ROM can work just perfectly with exFat when doing backup/restore; other (even newer) CWM versions/alternatives might NOT be OK with exFAT or stuff over 32GB!
- 512 MB Linux swap (primary partition 2) - this gets mounted by special mods that give the kernel virtual memory
- free space at the end (at least 4 MB on 32GB, at least 16 MB on 64GB)!
The only drawback is that at this moment there is no program (on PC or phone) that can resize exFAT - so you need to reformat! That is in contrast to NTFS / FAT32 / ext2 / ext3 / ext4 - which can all be resized perfectly - and IMHO NTFS could be a better option that exFAT (for journaling, even if I do not write that much anyway), but unfortunately there is no serious support for it on CWM; ext3/ext4 could also be even better from the Linux standpoint (but not for the usual Windows user that might have problems reading it) - but again is (surprisingly) not so supported by either CWM nor most ROMs
Just got new Sandisk 64GB cards and was having a heck of a time getting them to play nice with Paranoid Android, this guide was simple, painless and most of all, effective. Thank you much for posting this information.
Works with cyanogenmod nightly 2013-02-17 and ubuntu
So I have tried it out and it worked.
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If you have been having issue with exfat card even after formatting it to fat32 this is probably the solution for you
The 64gb exfat card i have never worked on custom roms no matter what software i used to format it to fat32.
But finally it worked with this one software, Just make sure you follow the instruction correctly.
http://software-files-a.cnet.com/s/...&pid=12572695&psid=10863346&&fileName=epm.exe
Link seems broken.
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Thank you!! Was wondering what I had done wrong with a custom ROM not reading the 64Gb card I had, now it does: )
great to see i helped some people.
ok so software to erase partition is called EaseUS incase this link gets broken in future just google, if im late with reply again in future.
http://download.cnet.com/EaseUS-Partition-Master-Free-Edition/3000-2248_4-10863346.html
Just wanted to say THANKS
I have been trying to get my 64GB working for days after install wicked rom 5.1 for my Samsung S4, noting worked till I found this post GREAT work and thanks so much!!!!
YOU RULE!
Thanks!! I have only been able to get my Scan Disk Ultra 64G card to work with Perseus kernel and would have to flash it to all Roms then use a hack to swap the internal to get it to work. It was a Pain in the ass and limited my Kernel usage. THANK YOU SO MUCH WHAT A USEFUL POST!! Stick to this plan it works. I have yet to see any other solution. I been dealing with this problem since I had my Galaxy note2 almost a year now.
PS do not use that crappy HP USB format 2.2 whatever program some guy suggested a bunch of malwar garbage I cant get off my computer now THANKS BUDDY Crawl back under a rock which you came.
Thanks for the wonderful help everyone who got it working
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so which format type is better for some1 running stock rom on galaxy note 2..... with a 64g sandisk ultra..... its alrdy working without any particular format....worked with factory settings but right now d mmry card is acting up cos of d script I used 2 swap....am only guessing.... so is it better 2 format to ex fat or fat32?
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so which format type is better for some1 running stock rom on galaxy note 2..... with a 64g sandisk ultra..... its alrdy working without any particular format....worked with factory settings but right now d mmry card is acting up cos of d script I used 2 swap....am only guessing.... so is it better 2 format to ex fat or fat32?
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i have no idea the swap system, as stock, it already has driver for ex fat but since you changed some stuff it might have ruined that driver.
try your card on another phone with stock rom and same android version. if it works then you dont need to change sd card format, just reinstall ROM on your phone.
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Thanks!! I have only been able to get my Scan Disk Ultra 64G card to work with Perseus kernel and would have to flash it to all Roms then use a hack to swap the internal to get it to work. It was a Pain in the ass and limited my Kernel usage. THANK YOU SO MUCH WHAT A USEFUL POST!! Stick to this plan it works. I have yet to see any other solution. I been dealing with this problem since I had my Galaxy note2 almost a year now.
PS do not use that crappy HP USB format 2.2 whatever program some guy suggested a bunch of malwar garbage I cant get off my computer now THANKS BUDDY Crawl back under a rock which you came.
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i know, that is reason i posted this. i tried about 10 software and then i found this weird way of doing it and it actually works.
all those fancy software dont do anything besides slowing computer down.
glad to know i was of some use
Hi, in the Nook Development forums, I found this post from Albert Wentz: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1439630
But unless I'm confused, I believe there are many other posts with other roll-your-own instructions? Such as: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466583
All I want to do is build the SD card for my kid's nooks (versus paying $20 to N2A) so I can boot to it to run Android just like the N2A card. Does anyone know which post N2A may have followed to build their version? Or is Al's post the most modern build? Or the 2nd URL I list?
I'm quite technical so know I can do this, I just need to know which is the latest and greatest, or if there are many diff build customizations, which, let's say, is the most popular ? I mainly care that it has Google Play and Amazon App stores, and that I can sideload ebooks, mp3's,videos. If it comes with other apps, fine, but I'm fine with downloading,installing any I wish afterwards.
And.....some posts mention you don't have to modify your nook at all, just boot to the SD card, but others say it modifies the Nook (roots it), so that if you ever had to return it you'd have to restore it (hence best to back it up beforehand). Which is correct???
Al's method works fine. Anything you mentioned that you wish to try will work. I ran boot to SD android rom for several months before I took the plunge and rooted my 8gb Nook to a full android tablet.
It in no way modifies the internal workings of your Nook. The Nook allows booting to the card by design. Just use a Sandisk card of 8gb or more for best results and all you need is a class 4 speed rating. Believe it or not, a class 10 doesn't work as well.
YMMV
Good luck and have fun with it!
jaxn51 said:
Al's method works fine. Anything you mentioned that you wish to try will work. I ran boot to SD android rom for several months before I took the plunge and rooted my 8gb Nook to a full android tablet.
It in no way modifies the internal workings of your Nook. The Nook allows booting to the card by design. Just use a Sandisk card of 8gb or more for best results and all you need is a class 4 speed rating. Believe it or not, a class 10 doesn't work as well.
YMMV
Good luck and have fun with it!
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OK thanks, so if I understand you, rooting is a separate method, as in my 2nd URL referenced. (and in reading that, the SD card is only used to flash (or pull) the image from, to put onto your Nook.) I don't know about backup, but I don't think I want to mess with the stock OS for now. Maybe if B&N abandons it. I guess I don't see it as a big deal that my kids will need to reboot each time to toggle between nook OS and Android.
I read that about the Class4 vs 10. I think I even read posts about class 10's not only running slow, but acting really buggy? Is that right?... One of our SD cards is a 16GB class 4 and a 8GB class 6. Anyone heard if class 6's have any issues?
Extremely easy process to build a card similar to N2A to run a very stable CM10 from:
http://iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
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asawi said:
Extremely easy process to build a card similar to N2A to run a very stable CM10 from:
iamafanof.wordpress.com/2012/11/18/cm10-0-jellybean-sdcard-img-for-nook-tablet/
Ooops!
I just realized both URLs I posted (even 1st one from Albert) mention rooting.(altering tablet) My mistake. Ok, so where's the mainstream single post on XDA forums that describes the most popular non-root (boot to SD) process? I'd rather follow a post off XDA website. And if I have issues, maybe fallback to that URL you gave me, although his English is not so great, so afraid I might get lost in his partitioning instructions. I also don't have a Linux box at home (re: his mention of EXT4) although I have been trained on/worked with Linux some. Although running Jellybean since it's the latest & greatest sounds nice....although I've read enough articles from mainstream tech sites that state it's a bit too buggy? I'm sure ICS is plenty good enough and all apps support it.
Whats the difference between CWM (clockwork mod) and CM (cyanogen)? Wikipedia just says "The CyanogenMod source code repository also contains the ClockworkMod Recovery"
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The step by step you'll find somewhere here on XDA actually is the work of the guy I posted to. So my link is the source. That "Iamafanof" blogger is the person "Succulent" you'll see referred to here at XDA. Entirely up to you of course, but I don't see why you wouldn't at least check it out.
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You do not need a Linux system and I don't know what gave you the idea you would. The process is extremely simple: Download a rather large file, burn it to an sd-card, expand one partition (optional but recommended).
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The step by step you'll find somewhere here on XDA actually is the work of the guy I posted to. So my link is the source. That "Iamafanof" blogger is the person "Succulent" you'll see referred to here at XDA. Entirely up to you of course, but I don't see why you wouldn't at least check it out.
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You do not need a Linux system and I don't know what gave you the idea you would. The process is extremely simple: Download a rather large file, burn it to an sd-card, expand one partition (optional but recommended).
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I thought that because as far as I'm aware, the EXT4 that he mentions (for P3 Data1) is a linux type partition. (unless some Windows partitioning tool can create it I'm not aware of) I'm willing to try his steps. So I guess you'd recreate the "P3 FAT32 SDCARD" partition the same size as it was before then? And the P4 (EXT4) you'd resize, as you mention, to take advantage of all the rest of the space on your 8 or 16GB card. But what free tool under Windows can create EXT4 ?
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And the P4 (EXT4) you'd resize, as you mention, to take advantage of all the rest of the space on your 8 or 16GB card. But what free tool under Windows can create EXT4 ?
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You do not have to create any EXT4 partition. Nor any other other kind of partition. All you have to do is expand the FAT32 partition. MiniTool is free and will do that for you.
http://download.cnet.com/MiniTool-Partition-Wizard-Home-Edition/3000-2094_4-10962200.html
Edit: And, FWIW, I went and checked. Mini Tool can also create EXT4 partitions, should you want to.
I got that image onto the SDcard, it now has 4 partitions:
BOOT 249MB (FAT32)
350MB (EXT3) 91% used
600MB (EXT3) 3% used
SDCARD 713MB (FAT32)
13GB Unallocated
So I would right click partition "SDCARD", extend it to the 13GB.
But, in his post he mentions one partition (P3,DATA1, which MiniTool doesn't show any partition labeled as such, but I assume he's just talking about the 3rd partition (the 600MB Ext3 partition) being used to store just apps & app data. (I assume since it's EXT3 which is compat w/linux i.e. Android) If so, what do you think..is 600MB enough for downloading/installing lots of apps? Or is it wiser to extend it to maybe 2 or 4 or even GB? For example I have the Humble Bundle games for Android Tablet. The installs (APK) are huge...anywhere from 30-200MB themselves..... I assume their post-install size takes up a different amount of space (more) than the APK itself, just as with Windows EXE installers? And if I recall correctly I believe once installed, you can del the APK... Anyhow, I'm emailing the company to see what install reqs for disk space are, since all they list the APK size.
Only you know how large data partition you need but it sure looks like you need it larger than 600.
So, to add some sort of instructions:
Delete partitions 3 and 4 (the 600 and 713 MB ones)
Apply changes (top left)
Create a new partition 3. Make it EXT4, Primary and the size you want
Apply changes
Create a new partition 4, FAT32, primary to pick up whatever is left unallocated
Apply changes
Don't forget to "apply changes"
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But, in his post he mentions one partition (P3,DATA1, which MiniTool doesn't show any partition labeled as such, but I assume he's just talking about the 3rd partition (the 600MB Ext3 partition) being used to store just apps & app data. (I assume since it's EXT3 which is compat w/linux i.e. Android) If so, what do you think..is 600MB enough for downloading/installing lots of apps? Or is it wiser to extend it to maybe 2 or 4 or even GB? For example I have the Humble Bundle games for Android Tablet. The installs (APK) are huge...anywhere from 30-200MB themselves..... I assume their post-install size takes up a different amount of space (more) than the APK itself, just as with Windows EXE installers? And if I recall correctly I believe once installed, you can del the APK... Anyhow, I'm emailing the company to see what install reqs for disk space are, since all they list the APK size.
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Although all apps downloaded from Google Play will reside on /data partition, many apps keep their data separately in the internal user-media partition or on the external SDcard (the 4th /sdcard partition in your case). For example, I have a video game app which takes ~30MB for itself in /data but ~350MB for data storage on the SDcard. The Titanium Backup app works the same way. So you'll have to anticipate not just the app's storage size requirement but also its targeted partition for data storage.
Does this also work for CM 12?
Can these instructions be used with CM12 Lolipop?
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Can these instructions be used with CM12 Lolipop?
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Yes, if you can find a CM12 ROM image that was specifically compiled to run on SD.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
digixmax said:
Yes, if you can find a CM12 ROM image that was specifically compiled to run on SD.
Sent from my BN NookHD+ using XDA Premium HD app
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Where can I find that ROM image? I haven't had much luck finding such a ROM, I haven't seen that specified.
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Where can I find that ROM image? I haven't had much luck finding such a ROM, I haven't seen that specified.
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I am not aware of any CM12 SD-based ROM build for the Nook Tablet, but you can find CM11 SD-based builds for the NT at https://iamafanof.wordpress.com/category/nook-tablet-2/.