I am going on about 3 weeks with an ATT HTC One X Plus, I live in an LTE area and therefore never turn my WiFi on as my LTE speeds are faster than my WiFi speeds. Long time ATT/Cingular customer so have the grandfathered unlimited data plan. Anyway, as this is my first LTE phone, I had always used WiFi in the past and had relatively low data usage, so far in 3 weeks have used a little over of 3GB's which by looking at past bills is significantly higher than in the past. The question is that today I was unable to turn off my phone's wifi, the toggle is off but it still shows it is connected on the top of the screen. Is ATT forcing me to use WiFi because my data usage has escalated significantly and I am an unlimited data customer?
I don't think at&t is forcing you to use your WiFi since you've gone over 3GB. try restarting your phone or doing a factory reset.
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I have Froyo running from SD card on TP. I'm on a old retention family plan with unlimited txt, data etc at evdo speed. When I use the phone it shows
3g as the speed connection. Per the Sprint CS reps, my "plan is not compatable" with the new phones offered and I will need to get a new plan (ie.. everything $69) to be able to use a newer phone with the faster data speeds. (I know this is BS). My question to all of you is;
1. If my phone is using the 3g network, can sprint find out the actual data speed my phone is using?
2. If they do find out I'm using the faster data network that my plan doesn't offer, what will/can they do to me for it?
Sorry if this is a lame question but I don't want to give up my old plan and do enjoy using Froyo on my TP. Once I can afford a more expensive plan I'll probably go with the EVO or what ever comes after it.
Come on everyone. 100 views and no replys? I want to continue to use Froyo on my Touch Pro but don't want to get burned by Sprint for using their 3g network when all I'm contracted for is evdo. Any one have a clue? Thanks.
I have the same issue, old retention plan with unlimited data included, but "incompatible" with newer phones. I have been testing out xdandroid builds for a few months now without any issues related to billing. I don't think sprint can tell.
It's conceivable that Sprint could monitor their data network watching for Android activation requests from "non-Android" phones (various GSM carriers have been known to do this).
But, to the best of anyone's knowledge, they don't. I've run a Vogue with Android for almost a year (and briefly run Froyo on my Touch Pro) without issue, and so have countless others.
The "speed" thing is a moot point - there are even dumbphones with EV-DO.
I wouldn't worry about it.
Sprint doesnt have 3G, they have EV-DO. 3G is a GSM speed format. Also, i doubt unless you are pulling down 5gigs of data a month they would even say anything. At that point it would be apparent that you are tethering. I routinely pull down 500megs + with normal browsing. Never been asked anything.
CDMA 3G is typically known as EVDO rev A, and common among most phones these days.
the actual data rate you pull is throttled by your carrier, and not controlled by your phone.
tethering is typically discovered due to a registry setting specifically forcing a new data connection for the tethered device separate from the phone data.
They probably can but they wont bother with you unless you are a top tear data user.
Data speeds have been horribly inconsistent since I got it. I have had several AT&T 3G phones in the same locations I'm using the Atrix and I can say with confidence it's not just the network. In the same spot at the same time a speed test will tell me ~3Mbps down ~1Mbps up and yet it will be horribly slow surfing the web. I'll bench it again a few minutes later and the speed test page won't even load. Apps will complain of no data connectivity and then boom, all of a sudden it's back. The whole time I'll have a 4-5 bars of service and my wife's iPhone sitting right next to it has no problems. Many times I have to reboot the phone to get data service back. Sometimes the data speed is so good I think I left the wifi on. That rarely lasts however.
I have tried nearly every "ROM" and radio in the dev section. I'm currently running the latest AT&T radio and CherryBlur. Is the radio in this thing just a PoS? I was thinking of having it swapped anyway since the front facing camera is completely blocked with pocket lint.
I just got the Atrix as a company phone. I traded in my company iPhone 4 for it for a couple of reasons.
1.) I prefer android phones
2.) I have an upcoming trip to Europe and thought I would have an easier time using the Atrix over there than the iPhone.
3.) I have an android tablet that also has a Tegra 2 chip in it so I thought I could run of the of the games I got for my tablet on this phone.
4.) Both my personal and work cell phones were 3G phones.
After having it for only 2 days, I am not a fan. I noticed the crappy data speed and also have suffered the network not available errors.
I have a rooted Droid X as a personal phone and I absolutely LOVE it. I travel for business and pleasure and when I do I usually take both my work phone and personal phone and I consistently see I get a stronger and better signal from my Verizon Droid X phone. Even when I had the (AT&T) iPhone 4 (3G) I saw the weak signal and slow speeds.
Anyway, back to the topic of this thread. Yes, you're not alone. This Atrix is pretty disappointing being a "4G" phone and all. Last night while at home I tried watching videos from several sources on this Atrix. Fox Television, Hulu Plus, and Crackle all complained about "a network error" and would take forever to load a video if it didn't error out first and then it was really poor quality complared to what I experience on my old 3G Verizon Droid X. If that wasn't bad enough I even got the network errors popup when I would move around in the Market looking at apps and such.
I am planning on upgrading my personal phone to the Droid Bionic when it is released next month but alas that phone is not "global ready" so I will see what I can do with this Atrix once I get root on it just so I can have a "world phone" as a backup.
Atrix 4G HSDPA+ speeds
I'm glad I'm not the only one!
I'm currently just outside of Princeton, NJ... running the speedtest.net application:
H+ data, 4-5 bars connectivity
Ping: 99ms
Download: 53kbps (yes, k)
Upload: 90kpbs
I regularly measure in the 50-80kbps speeds.
When I got my Atrix, I figured HSDPA+ would be faster.....
(yes, I made sure nothing else was using CPU or the data connection - I run this test regularly).
Admittedly, in other areas I've seen as high as 1 Mbps, but it's consistently bad in this area, even given an apparently strong signal.
I do not share your frustrations. I am on Bell in Canada and average 2 mbps down / 1 mbps up. That's blazing fast for Canada in my books!
Maybe flashing up the latest radio by kenneth (in dev section) may be of some help.
djeuch said:
I'm glad I'm not the only one!
I'm currently just outside of Princeton, NJ... running the speedtest.net application:
H+ data, 4-5 bars connectivity
Ping: 99ms
Download: 53kbps (yes, k)
Upload: 90kpbs
I regularly measure in the 50-80kbps speeds.
When I got my Atrix, I figured HSDPA+ would be faster.....
(yes, I made sure nothing else was using CPU or the data connection - I run this test regularly).
Admittedly, in other areas I've seen as high as 1 Mbps, but it's consistently bad in this area, even given an apparently strong signal.
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Huh???
Look in your settings/about phone and post what network type and radio version you have on there. You should certainly be on HSPA+ now with the rest of the US and probably world.
Is it the phone or the network? Just asking since I have both an AT&T phone and a Verizon phone and have noticed network and download speed issues and am really disappointed with my Atrix.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/03/06/the-four-gees-comparison-which-carrier-should-you-be-looking-to-for-your-4g-android-phone/
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Is it the phone or the network? Just asking since I have both an AT&T phone and a Verizon phone and have noticed network and download speed issues and am really disappointed with my Atrix.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/03/06/the-four-gees-comparison-which-carrier-should-you-be-looking-to-for-your-4g-android-phone/
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The network severely limits non-iphones. Same deal with HTC Inspire, Samsung Infuse, etc. I can usually hit 3-4 MB/s down, 1.5 MB/s up. That's not 4G. It's not the Atrix causing this.
I had ATT for 5 years, last phones on our acct where the Samsung captivate & iPhone 3gs. Went to Sprint, got tired of not having unlimited data and wanted to stream media, they had a promo if we ported our lines they gave us a service credit (paid our ETF from ATT), and bought back our ATT phones for $120. Not a bad deal. At first just casually used the phones, wifi at home, and 3g/4g away from home. 4g is good if your outside in a good service area, avg speed tests 1-4mb, 3g, forget it. Their 3g seemed slower than ATT edge on a bad day.
I moved my "work from home" office upstairs in my house, and my wireless point is downstairs opposite side of the house. I'm had horrible wifi usage on my Samsung Epic phone, i used wifi analyzer and get about -75db, and my mac book pro gets about -69db. i would think that would be fine since my mac book still shows all its bars and i can get on the internet and it works fine. Speed test with my mac book shows 11.66 down/ 1.47 up and ping < 100ms; which is what i pay from my ISP. when i do the speed test on the Epic, i get less than 1mb down and less than 1mb up and pings over 100ms.
i tried a spare router i had in my closet, cisco 4 port and G router and placed it upstairs. Placed in bridge mode and it worked a little better upstairs. When i had my epic phone about 5 feet from it, i only had 2 bars. huh? i can walk all over downstairs with my uverse RG in my master bedroom closet and get all 3 bars, but when i go to my office, i barely get one bar and crap speeds.
i was thinking of re-locating my uverse rg access point upstairs and since i have a 110 patch panel downstairs, it would take me less than 10 minutes to re-locate, then i got to thinking, when i had my captivate & iphone, i never had a problem in my office with wifi.
what should i do here? i like to use my phone in my office when i'm working to kill some time, and since sprints 3g coverage is completely horrible, i'll use my wifi, but since somehow the wifi radio in that phone is complete crap. For the hell of it, i found a copy of 2.3.4 gingerbread and used odin to get the fw on my phone; but actually i received worse wifi speeds (if that makes any sense), so i rolled back to Froyo. I'm 2 seconds from throwing out 2 Samsung Epic phones on my account out the window and going back to ATT. I did a speed test on a Atrix phone at a electronics store and it received HSPA+ and it got about 4mb down; whereas my Epic got less than 1 with Sprint in the same location.
At first i would sacrifice slower 3g speeds from sprint, but when it doesnt even work half the time, 4g seems to only work outside at speeds of ATT 3g w/o HSPA+. so pretty much that unlimited data is they advertise is crap and i feel if i call in to complain, all they will tell me to do is update my PRL, fw and software and maybe submit a incident tkt for my slow speeds, but i know that wont correct it. With their current stand of possibly going to Light Squared for LTE from Clear Wi-max, that will maybe solve their 4g coverage in the distant future, but still stuck with sub-par 3g...
So I am running CM7 and I have been running since the first build, all of a sudden my speeds are not there. I am at less than 2 mbps where I used to be running 12+. I have changed the radio to both the m2 and m2.5 with no luck at all.
Things I have tired:
Wiping 3 times / Clearing cache 3 times and reloading newest version
Leave battery out of phone for an hour
Rebooting
Changing locations where I test (I am in a well covered 4g area)
Testing another persons phone with the same build at the same spot (they pulled down 18 mpbs)
I am out of ideas can anyone think of anything else.
-Xaikar
Bump? Willing to take any ideas anyone!
i've noticed my speeds have gone down as well. and no matter what variation of radio/rom/kernal i try, the speeds just aren't as fast as they used to be.
i wonder if verizon's finally started throttling people who still have the old unlimited data.
Well one big factor is that finally the Dual Core/LTE phones are here. So those that did have unlimited data are FINALLY renewing and grabbing the latest device.
Also 3-8 phones currently being bought at Verizon are 4g, so that's another factor. It was only a matter of time before the speeds fall back to the same 4g as Sprint/AT&T
That is just my small thought/opinion.
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Well one big factor is that finally the Dual Core/LTE phones are here. So those that did have unlimited data are FINALLY renewing and grabbing the latest device.
Also 3-8 phones currently being bought at Verizon are 4g, so that's another factor. It was only a matter of time before the speeds fall back to the same 4g as Sprint/AT&T
That is just my small thought/opinion.
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Yup. Usually when your data speeds start slowing down all of the sudden, it's network side.
Does anyone know of any fix for the HSPA+ SGSII I9100 throttle problem?
Is anyone even working on a throttle removal process for this phone?
When I originally got my phone I was using the wap.Cingular APN and was actually getting pretty fast speeds. I then went into the AT&T store and switched my unlimited 3G to unlimited 4G and it seems that the speeds have sort of crapped out. If throttling is the issue I would love a fix. Hopefully someone that may have more information than me can enlighten us
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Does anyone know of any fix for the HSPA+ SGSII I9100 throttle problem?
Is anyone even working on a throttle removal process for this phone?
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Throttling is done on the network gateway. To get around speed throttling, you have to be on the right data plan (4G of some kind), and you have to be connecting to the right gateway. The wap.cingular APN is throttled. 4G phones have a different APN. I think that APN is just "phone". There are a bunch of threads that already exist on this subject, just search for them.
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When I originally got my phone I was using the wap.Cingular APN and was actually getting pretty fast speeds. I then went into the AT&T store and switched my unlimited 3G to unlimited 4G and it seems that the speeds have sort of crapped out. If throttling is the issue I would love a fix. Hopefully someone that may have more information than me can enlighten us
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As I said above, if you changed your plan from 3g to 4g, you will probably have to update your APN to point to the correct gateway. wap.cingular will only get you the lower end of HSPA+ speeds. You want the "phone" APN. Search is your friend.
Trust me Bro. I searched like crazy. The fix seems to be for LTE phones.
I got the international SGII about a month ago. It's only HSPA+. One week after I bought it they came out with the lte version on att. what a bummer.
It seems all the threads online are about lte phones, switching the APN back to HSPA+. I tried some of those fixes to no avail. still throttled at .13 mb. I'm only 8 days into my billing cycle and this is unacceptable as one can't even open a website. it seems the ping speed has quadrupled.
I'm due for an upgrade and my contract would end in few days. I was wondering if there exists a fix for this on an HSPA+ phone or should I just go and upgrade to skyrocket. There's no way I can go on with .13 for the rest of the month.
If anyone knows of a fix on HSPA+ phones that would be great.
BTW, when I bought the phone, I called att and tried to add the new phone imei it came out as a Blackberry. I told them to add the 4g plan but I really don't know if they did it. The lady was like you should have a blackberry plan. So I told her to just keep my iphone data plan unchanged.
My phone then on it's own was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mb/s so I didn't care.
Do you think I should call back and make sure I have a 4G plan added?
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Trust me Bro. I searched like crazy. The fix seems to be for LTE phones.
I got the international SGII about a month ago. It's only HSPA+. One week after I bought it they came out with the lte version on att. what a bummer.
It seems all the threads online are about lte phones, switching the APN back to HSPA+. I tried some of those fixes to no avail. still throttled at .13 mb. I'm only 8 days into my billing cycle and this is unacceptable as one can't even open a website. it seems the ping speed has quadrupled.
I'm due for an upgrade and my contract would end in few days. I was wondering if there exists a fix for this on an HSPA+ phone or should I just go and upgrade to skyrocket. There's no way I can go on with .13 for the rest of the month.
If anyone knows of a fix on HSPA+ phones that would be great.
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I also have the unlocked international Galaxy SII. I am on the unlimited data plan for non-smartphones, using the wap.cingular APN. I'm averaging around 3.5-4 mbps down. Fastest I've seen is about 6.5mbps. This is fast enough for me; I would prefer getting unlimited data for the price I'm paying anyways, rather than pay twice as much as I do now only to be capped at 2gb per month.
Maybe you flashed a different modem to your phone without knowing it. What is your setup? Custom ROM? etc?
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BTW, when I bought the phone, I called att and tried to add the new phone imei it came out as a Blackberry. I told them to add the 4g plan but I really don't know if they did it. The lady was like you should have a blackberry plan. So I told her to just keep my iphone data plan unchanged.
My phone then on it's own was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mb/s so I didn't care.
Do you think I should call back and make sure I have a 4G plan added?
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You can check your account online. If you log in, and go to myAT&T > Wireless > Usage & Recent Activity, under Data it will list your data - If yours contains a string that looks like HSPDDB, it is 4G unlimited. If it only contains DPPB, it is 3G unlimited. Mine (for the unlimited data for non-smartphones) says GPRS WAP UNLTD DOM - DTAU.
EDIT: you said above it was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mbps... what changed? Did you flash a custom ROM? New kernel? New modem? I find it very weird that your speeds would suddenly drop from 7mpbs to 0.13mbps for no reason.
Using the phone APN and a 4G plan will get you the fastest speeds. Back when I was on a 3G plan, I could only rarely connect to the phone APN, and could get only about 7 Mbps top speed. When I switched to a 4G plan, I found I could consistently connect to the phone APN, and my top speed went up to about 9.5 Mbps.
Note that speeds on either APN are highly variable; I can get 9 Mbps one time, then only 1-2 Mbps a couple minutes later.
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EDIT: you said above it was pulling HSPA+ speeds up to 7mbps... what changed? Did you flash a custom ROM? New kernel? New modem? I find it very weird that your speeds would suddenly drop from 7mpbs to 0.13mbps for no reason.
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Allegedly, I am in the top 5% data users at only 3.1 GB.
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Allegedly, I am in the top 5% data users at only 3.1 GB.
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Oh, I see. You're getting throttled because you've used tons of data this cycle. So it sounds like you are not on an unlimited plan, but a capped plan. If you're supposed to be on an unlimited plan, I would call them up and fight tooth and nail to get it back.
But seriously, I'm on an unlimited plan, but I don't use nearly that much data (3.1 GB!!!) in 8 days. Heck, I hardly ever go over 2 GB in one entire billing cycle.
The only thing I can recommend is for you to hook up to Wi-Fi as much as possible. I have Wi-Fi at home and work, so when I am there, it is not consuming my data plan allowance. Besides, Wi-Fi will end up with a more consistent speed (usually faster). HSPA+ tends to vary wildly in download speeds. In addition to that, Wi-Fi tends to consume less battery. There are a lot of reasons to use Wi-Fi if it is available instead of HSPA+.
Take it as you will, that's just my advice.
my SG2 is not flashed. still on custom samsung ROM.
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Oh, I see. You're getting throttled because you've used tons of data this cycle. So it sounds like you are not on an unlimited plan, but a capped plan. If you're supposed to be on an unlimited plan, I would call them up and fight tooth and nail to get it back.
But seriously, I'm on an unlimited plan, but I don't use nearly that much data (3.1 GB!!!) in 8 days. Heck, I hardly ever go over 2 GB in one entire billing cycle.
The only thing I can recommend is for you to hook up to Wi-Fi as much as possible. I have Wi-Fi at home and work, so when I am there, it is not consuming my data plan allowance. Besides, Wi-Fi will end up with a more consistent speed (usually faster). HSPA+ tends to vary wildly in download speeds. In addition to that, Wi-Fi tends to consume less battery. There are a lot of reasons to use Wi-Fi if it is available instead of HSPA+.
Take it as you will, that's just my advice.
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I understand. I've been using my phone because I've been traveling and sometimes wifi is not an option. I use data a lot for my work. I do have a grandfathered unlimited.
I just got my wife the GSII Skyrocket on AT&T and her phone is getting much faster data than mine. She is averaging around 1 mbps faster download speeds but the real killer is her ping, which is consistently between 50-69 ms. Mine never goes below 100 ms. I am on the 4G plan and I am using the phone APN. Her phone has a different apn ("pta" instead of "phone"). I tried the pta apn but it wouldn't connect to data so maybe that is somehow reserved for phones with an LTE sim card? I'm really not sure but I want that faster speed. Any idea what is causing her to get better speeds? FYI before anyone asks we are NOT in an LTE area so both phones were on HSPA+ during my tests.
EDIT: I just tried again and her download speeds are double mine (mine was 3 she was over 6). I expect the AT&T phone to be slightly more optimized for their network but this is ridiculous. Something has to be wrong it can't be this much of a difference.