Strong hopes for ubuntu, can we build it? - Motorola Photon 4G

As a long time fan/user of ubuntu based desktops (in reality ive only been using it since i believe fiesty fawn on and off of course) Im very excited to see this
Now, im having trouble seeing it stand out above the crowd, we've seen mobile os's come and go over the years.
Anywhom, to any dev's wishful thinkers, Do you think it will be possible for us to eventually build it for our photons?
I dont see it happening right away, but as someone who appreciates what ubuntu is about, and has been doing, i think its something worth working on if possible.
Hopefully its no flop like that firefox OS thing, looked and felt like a plastic doll house from china.
I guess we will find out more as it progresses, but, Im excited to see if it is a possibility.
Essentially looking at the basic system requirements, it seems the photon could run it somewhere between starter, and high end, so, who knows.
Lets get cookin! (obviously not yet)

I saw that as well and as a recent adopter of Ubuntu myself, I'm very interested to try this.
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It's not a Mobile OS as the world knows mobile os's. It's Ubuntu 12/13 Desktop for ARM with a "Phone" desktop environment. On official Ubuntu phones, you plug it into a display (TV/Monitor) and it switches to Unity Desktop.
The best way to think of it is Ubuntu Desktop ARM. From there you get the idea as to how big this really is. There hasn't really been anything like this since the Zaraus C3000 from 8 years ago.

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[Q] So tells us about yourself

I know not a specific technical question, but since I don't know a lot of people outside of the Eris forum I figured I'd post over here.
I'm really interested in the guys who make the roms for us, what they do from 8 to 5 every day.
Right now I work at a Pharmaceutical company and support their Sales Force. (Not phone support) I'm the guy who gets their laptops when the problems can't be fixed over the phone.
I also have a second job fixing computers at an electronics retailer.
I've owned a computer since I've been about 5 years old and am well versed in Windows 3.1 through 7 and most server versions. I'm also pretty familiar with Linux, Solaris and some of the BSDs.
Having a phone with a command prompt to me is just about the greatest thing ever.
Interesting thread! It's been bookmarked.
I don't work, I'm 13.
I work at big lots and I'm 19, but I look 13 lol.
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Android As A Computer OS?

I got to thinking... Android is awesome, and what if Google decided to develop a whole new OS specifically designed for a PC? I mean, Android is a phone OS, and with the introduction of Honeycomb it is the very first real tablet OS. They also have Google TVs that run the same OS concept. The next step would be to take over the desktops and the laptops, yes? I think it would be great to see. Ofcourse they would have to adapt a lot of things to make it work and feel like it was made for a computer, like how Honeycomb is doing now in the tablet world.
I can see this happening for sure. If it became a reality and got a stable release... would you think about dropping your Windows and Macs for it? I probably would! I love Google and everything they do. I want the complete Google experience for all my devices!
I wonder what it would be called? Google PC, Chrome PC/PC Chrome, Project Google, or just OS Google/Google OS? I haven't the slighest idea what it would really be called. Lol.
Thoughts? Ideas? Let 'em out!
Google has a hell of a lot to do before they can even compete in the full-blown OS. Mac has a foothold in the graphics design, while Windows has the PC gaming market secured aside from the usual office productivity stuff. Linux is trying (have been for decades), but can't really compete and thus relegated to a small niche market. The way I see it, if Google does enter into the OS fray then they'd just get some of the Linux share which isn't that big to begin with.
Google already has an os http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome_OS i was in the beta and it is really good but not at a level where I would drop ubuntu and Backtrack
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50-3 said:
Google already has an os http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome_OS i was in the beta and it is really good but not at a level where I would drop ubuntu and Backtrack
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Well I'll be darned! The latest stable release was only a few days ago. I know I remember seeing something about a Google OS once before awhile back, and I couuuuld have done a Google search like I always do, but I wanted to post on the awesome xda forums before I did that! Cool thanks!
And I guess I was close at guessing the OS name huh? Lol.
Also, I saw Google Chromebooks at either CES 2011, or Google IO 2011. The Chromebook uses the internet as an OS. Apps, movies, writing up a text document... all done over the internet with web apps, unlike Windows which you can do this natively through the desktop itself. This concept seems like a neat idea... everything is done from the internet instead of the desktop.
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Google has a hell of a lot to do before they can even compete in the full-blown OS. Mac has a foothold in the graphics design, while Windows has the PC gaming market secured aside from the usual office productivity stuff. Linux is trying (have been for decades), but can't really compete and thus relegated to a small niche market. The way I see it, if Google does enter into the OS fray then they'd just get some of the Linux share which isn't that big to begin with.
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They have the potential to pull it off though. They are going through the same thing with Honeycomb tablets. Everyone seems to think the iPad is so amazing, but the OS is that of a iPhone, thus making it a ridiculously oversized phone. Honeycomb is the first to change that, and it will take time to perfect, but it will get done. And since Android is taking over, I can see them perfecting the Google OS for computers in due time. And when the time comes... I'm pretty sure it will have a nice impact, again considering Android is taking over and Google itself has always been boss status.
It won't happen in a day but it will happen. Windows did not become a household name in a day you know. Many people put the idea down and knocked it until... you guessed it! It became a hit, and it was all along. People just would not accept it at first.
Check it out.
http://www.android-x86.org/
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Anyone have any experience with chrome?
My laptop is getting old and I might look into putting chrome on it
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Rom: Project-V
Kernel: Bali X 1.2
Love it.
Seems to me that the Google os is just opening up Google chrome browser and doing everything from there. Would love to see android on a desktop though. The status bar would be cool to see on my laptop!
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Seems to me that the Google os is just opening up Google chrome browser and doing everything from there. Would love to see android on a desktop though. The status bar would be cool to see on my laptop!
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That's what I was looking for. Because yes, Chromium OS, everything is done over the internet. I am looking for an actual desktop OS that makes use on the touch screen PCs. Seems logical and a good idea to me.
New Linux flavor
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Chrome os sucks. I got my cr-48, first chrome laptop made. And it sucks. I rarely use it. I take it to school to type documents and that's it.
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Chrome os sucks. I got my cr-48, first chrome laptop made. And it sucks. I rarely use it. I take it to school to type documents and that's it.
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Indeed. It is pretty much a web OS that has no actual desktop. I wish they would make a real desktop OS like what Honeycomb is to tablets. They need to make that happen on the PC world with the Android Market and all.
Theres this company developing what they call the bluestack google a search for "bluestack" to find more out mroe about it. you can run android in ur pc with it. due for alpha soon
Rejinderi said:
Theres this company developing what they call the bluestack google a search for "bluestack" to find more out mroe about it. you can run android in ur pc with it. due for alpha soon
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Wow thanks! I signed up for the alpha testing. This is EXACTLY what I have been looking for! I'm getting my new beast AIO touchscreen PC very soon and I cannot wait until I will be able to boot up Android right along side Windows. What an awesome combination. This makes Windows even better compared to poor Mac. Android is the king, and bringing it to Windows PC's blows my mind. Lol. ^^
Thanks for to heads up!
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Wow thanks! I signed up for the alpha testing. This is EXACTLY what I have been looking for! I'm getting my new beast AIO touchscreen PC very soon and I cannot wait until I will be able to boot up Android right along side Windows. What an awesome combination. This makes Windows even better compared to poor Mac. Android is the king, and bringing it to Windows PC's blows my mind. Lol. ^^
Thanks for to heads up!
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woah.. new touchscreen pc how i wish i have that. lucky you haha. np
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woah.. new touchscreen pc how i wish i have that. lucky you haha. np
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Heh, yeah. It's a custom built PC with the best parts available to me.
The video for Bluestacks read me like a book when it said something like "Do you have a touchscreen PC and would like to run Android on it?" I am currently waiting for my custom built all in one touchscreen beast machine PC to be delivered in a few days. I wanna load Bluestacks up on this baby as soon as it becomes available.
It would be great if Android apps just ran natively inside Linux instead of having to use a crappy emulator from Google.
I want to be the first to make a custom rom for PC lol
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Poll : Do you want to run Android *within* WebOS as a card?

All,
As you might have seen in thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1288155&page=17
The Chroid release never really got past 0.1 alpha and appears to have died..
Shame as I see a real need for this, like many others I really like WEBOS, its not perfect but works fine, battery life is AWESOME and the native touchpad apps are well writtern..
However with the general android cm7/miui progress/webos now opensourced Im not surprised some developers dont think this is a worthwhile project.. so i thought we simply need to convince a developer its a worthwhile project
Also perhaps maybe someone from opemmobile would contribute towards an opensource project? or themselves re-invigorate this, they originally planned a webos port... (see http://openmobileww.com/smartphone.php)
So to start with I thought Id start this POLL thread, if your interested vote, would you pay for it? $5-$10 sounds reasonable? or more?
Please keep this thread simply for the poll, for general chit chat use the original thread above.
edit : Just to be clear, Im not skilled enough to make this happen but I thought starting this thread, waiting to see the replies we should be able to rouse the interest of a "skilled" developer...
edit : This link is to OpenMobileWW who demo'd ACL on WebOS as a card and looked awesome http://news.mobileroundup.com/2012/01/ces-is-open-mobile-what-webos-has-been-waiting-for/
I'm definitely interested in such an app. I used a Palm Pre- for a couple of years and really learned to love WebOS. I constantly switch back between it and CM7 or one of its flavors depending upon what I want to do. I use WebOS for my email and work, but switch to CM7 for games and other apps. $10 is more than reasonable (I'd pay up to $50 but I think that's too high to sustain a market).
I'd be interested, and I'd be willing to pay $5, maybe $10 depending on how well it emulates within webOS.
Please delete this post, I missed the part about not posting in here. My apologies.
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I'd be interested, and I'd be willing to pay $5, maybe $10 depending on how well it emulates within webOS.
Please delete this post, I missed the part about not posting in here. My apologies.
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No worries.
i like webos faar better than android.. new to both but no contest really..
the advantage for android is apps apps apps..
it would be great if there was any way that android could function as a card..
would android still have to boot up as a card or would it be instant like a webos
function..
the android os makes TP way more functional-- wireless non-hp printer support..
games.. on and on..
thanx
could you maybe be thinking about this backwards? What you actually want out of the android window is quickly getting to the android apps right? wouldn't it work faster to do what crackberry is doing and just making the android market work within the webos?
getting android apps working within WebOS is what we're after here,, not getting the Android OS working within WebOs.. thats different
I would definitely be interested, I like webos's smoothness but android has sooo many apps, I would prolly pitch in more than that , its a really good idea, and I think anybody can spare 10 bucks
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Yeh
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I voted for yes I would pay. I want to explain that a bit. I love XDA and the developers here are amazing. This lot can do things most users only imagine, and more often than not, for free.
On that note, I like WebOS too. Its smooth, little slow but intuitive. I cant find my way around an Ipad but 10 seconds on my touchpad, my very first WebOS device, I have wifi running and was bookmarking XDA. If Android ran smoothly in a card there would be no turning back.
I cant wait to see what happens, lets make it happen!
I love webOS so much more than Android but I'm running Android due to Netflix, etc.
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Same here if I could I'd rather use WebOS than Android but I still have problems with things like YouTube being slow, and videos stutter, etc.
i'd pay for this
google music would be so good with this
Although I like both systems, I would like to see an effective Android app on a card. I have much more experience with Android but Webos just seems nicer to work with.
I would pay a reasonable price for this, $10-20 bucks.
Mike T
Is this running the android os in a card, or running android apps in a card?
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How much work would it be/how much would it be worth to get X11 working on android or to make surfaceflinger etc. work on webos?
I'm already invested in android, I wouldn't mind paying $10 or more to get android apps (or all of android, including apps) on webos. It'd be more sensible even than paying for SPBShell
How many touchpad users have stuck with webOS d'you reckon?
Well as good as X-ron/Cyanogen & MIUI are on the touchpad I still find WEBOS to be so much better as a tablet OS. Maybe it's just the ability to flick cards away just makes android seem a tad clunky at this point. So long as an Virtual Android isn't expensive I'd probably pay for it... unless ICS is amazing
Honestly my first intention for my touchpad was to root it with android. However, i find myself not even using android on it. I love the webOS interface soooooo much more than andorid, but I hate that it lack the apps. This is where my rooted nookCOLOR comes in. I can count the amount of time I have actually booted into android on the touchpad besides for setting it up to mirror my nookCOLOR settings.
I do like webos but I feel like its like a sexy chick wearing a chastity belt.. looks good but you can't do anything with it.. I don't think I've logged into webos once in the last 3 months.. there's no reason to. Android I s way more functional.. for me at least. Android in a card would take the chastity belt off this biatch.. :-D
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Well as good as X-ron/Cyanogen & MIUI are on the touchpad I still find WEBOS to be so much better as a tablet OS. Maybe it's just the ability to flick cards away just makes android seem a tad clunky at this point. So long as an Virtual Android isn't expensive I'd probably pay for it... unless ICS is amazing
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What? As opposed to simply pressing home and not having to worry about the app anymore?

Considering the Prime? Worried about all those issues?

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This is an awesome little machine, and I'm very happy with it. And even though the price is slightly premium for a netbook and there are some issues you should not expect from such a pricey device, it's still definitely worth buying in my opinion. If you think you like the idea of the transformer (as in, a modular keyboard dock) or are impressed by the specs, then you should get it! It's as good as it looks and you won't be let down!
So, I was really looking forward to getting the Prime, as I needed a replacement for my laptop for studies, and I thought that the Prime would be the best investment as a laptop (which doubles as a tablet, sweet). Though, as I was looking around, I saw lots of reviews praising it as the best tablet ever, but on the other hand I saw a lot of complaints on the XDA forum from people who actually own it about what a terrible experience it is. So I just wanted to share what my experience is, and if you're considering getting the Prime (and particularly as a laptop), then this sums up what I think of it and if it's worth getting.
To start with the issues:
I've never even had the chance to test out the GPS, which should not be functioning, as you probably know. I sometimes wish the WiFi signal was stronger, but I don't think it's any worse than the other gadgets I have lying around the house. I just recently started getting the random reboots. Yeah, that's annoying. I think it has to do with the flash player (2/3 times it was with flash in the foreground, and the third time I just opened flash and switched to something else). You know what, I'm not worried because even though it will probably start to bother if it continues, I'm sure updates and fixes will follow.
What I'm really bothered by is some ICS tweaks to make it more keyboard-friendly and more desktop-like instead of phone-like. For example, I'm still looking for a decent browser that can be set to desktop user agents (to show desktop sites instead of mobile sites). Also, multitasking on this thing is awesome, until you have to open two files of the same kind (you need to get two PDF readers if you want to have two PDF files open at once). These too will be fixed with software updates or app updates. Soon people will realize that Android is also a computer OS and not just a phone OS. These software issues have nothing to do with the Prime and will get ironed out as time goes along, and it won't matter if you have the Galaxy Tab or the Prime.
But I should stress that I am in no way regretting getting this thing. This thing is comparable to a netbook in size and a laptop in power, and better than both together in battery life. The whole package is incredible: the looks, the screen, the power, the keyboard dock, the freakin' battery life, everything is just top notch. I literally can't convince you enough how pleased I am with the hardware. You couldn't find a netbook out there that competes with this on any scale - on ANY scale. And you'd have a hard time finding a laptop of this price with this kind of power. Just take a look at Shadowgun on youtube. Then imagine it looking three times better when it's actually in your hands.
I'm using it for studies, and I take notes with Google Docs - which could use some work, but you can bet Google will be updating it to work better on tablets. The best thing I like about this is that I use this as a laptop (which don't get more than several hours if you're frugal), and this one can run for almost two full (and I mean FULL) days without a charge. Before I got it, I had a hard time finding a review focused on the keyboard dock as a central input device (as if to replace a laptop). I'm glad to report, as a student, that it is. I can totally see myself seeing slides and taking notes on this, and never worry about finding a wall outlet. I'm hoping to post a video review on YT for students considering this tablet as a school device. Highly recommended.
All in all, I'm very pleased with this thing. If you're considering the Prime, ask away here if there's anything you're unsure about, I'll try to answer as best I can. But if you're reading this much in to the Prime, you should probably just go ahead and get it.
good honest review.
The complaint about being unable to open more than one document type at a time is a legitimate one, and applies to just about every mobile OS in existence. It really crystallizes why these devices are really good for some things, but in general do NOT replace notebook computers.
As an aside, one mobile OS that fixes this limitation is webOS, which DOES allow multiple instances of a document type to be open at once. Emails, PDFs, Web pages, you name it, all can be opened as separate documents and used as one expects--for example, refer to other email messages when writing a new one, jump back and forth between open Word documents to compare versions, etc. I really do wish that Google would adopt the webOS "cards" multitasking metaphor for Android. It's really too bad that webOS has generally been such a failure, because it really does have some unique strengths.
Sorry for hijacking the thread, but I think just needed to be said.
So glad we have yet another one of these threads... Oh wait.. That feeling is gas... Closing this thread before it stinks in here.
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Gauging interest in restarting development on the Nexus Q [7.X.X.]

I've been trying to get this device how I wanted it to be ever since I beta tested it, but due to life, law school, and marriage, I have been noticeably absent from the dev community lately. For that I apologize.
As I am concluding my legal studies, I have began revisiting some of my old broken-ish but bootable code from my Lollipop build, and am considering, if enough people are still using this thing, to try and build Nougat.
The chipset is identical to the Galaxy Nexus, as I am sure most people know at this point, and wollac has did one helluva job putting in the work to form a solid base to build upon. Admittedly, this is going to be a moderately-difficult project, bordering on a labor of nostalgia, but if there is enough interest, I will get to work so we can keep using this obsolete bowling ball for another year or two. I still use the KitKat build as an amp and NES emulator.
Let me know what you guys think.
-JM
I'm definitely interested, I would love to be able to use my Q with the original LED functionality
+1 on the LED functionality, but I fear that there aren't many in circulation anymore... Mine is gathering dust underneath the TV, a chromecast does its intended functionality much better :/
I just bought one, and I'm not sure how I can even use it at this point. Are you still considering development of something for the q?
I still have mine literally sitting there until something comes along. I would welcome any development on the Q!
I'll echo the others... I have mine sitting the corner of my office, under the printer waiting and hoping for it to be usable one day. I unfortunately bought mine right after they pulled the plug, not know about it so it has never actually worked! I really just hope to be able see the LEDs and stream music to it, even if just through chromecast. I heard it had a great amp and I have some old quality speakers laying around somewhere.
I'm interested as well. I'd love to be able to use it as a chromecast audio, or something similar. Personally, I'd prefer to be able to use it without a display.
does anyone know how to get the Nexus Q software? Got one without the manuals or software
I am interested. What would be the goal though?
There has to be a limited amount of these in existence and it would be neat to be able to use it for something useful.
Is a Chromecast type device reasonable? I'd use it in my office just as a novelty.
I would love something newer than the 4.4 build on this forum currently, and get some use out of this dustcollector. Personally i would like to just get the amp working, any other functionality I really dont care too much about.
Anything Lollipop or better would be great. I use the Google ADT-1 with stock Lollipop and really like it. Works fine for me. Maybe Kit Kat could be OK but I'm not sure.
I am interested. How do I get started?
I'll give this a +1
I still got mine and been thinking what to do with it... any new development i wouldnt mind trying.
I am interested in the restart as well
I have two and would love to use them.
Hi. I interested in Android 7. Youtube and youtube Music still working on Android 7, so i can build media-center on Q with android 6+.

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