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http://phandroid.com/2010/10/05/skype-for-android-now-available-worldwide/
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that's right, is doesn't work on the Vibrant.
guess what it does not work on vibrant 2.1
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guess what it does not work on vibrant 2.1
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It appears that it doesn't work on any galaxy s phone..
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It's a POS app
no Video calling
no group calling
They waited this long to release this Garbage?
Fring was doing an excellent job, until Skype shut them down.
UGH SKYPE is a POS company
Galaxy S owners get the shaft ... yet again! Maybe we should just recognize the fact that AT&T/iPhone 4 is the best game in town and quit trying to play catch up.
There is a GPS fix that allows it to work excellent. Get over it.
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Well, at least we all now know a little more about the two of you. I don't blame you entirely for your disgraceful behavior. Surely your upbringing had a lot to do with it.
I don't see how what I said was inflammatory but perhaps it was misperceived. Allow me to explain: I paid $500 for this device. I honestly don't even need the phone aspect of it. I just need it to access the internet (email, web, etc), then as a media player, and then occasionally as a GPS device. The calling capabilities are literally icing on the cake. Let's just skip the whole GPS part since that needs no introduction. It simply doesn't work (unless you consider your location jumping around every 10 seconds "working" ... yeah, what fun it is to be hearing erroneous directions from your GPS device). T-mobile's voice and data services have been quite paltry in my experience. Calls drop quite often and that's something many Tmo subscribers complain about, especially near downtown and on a NexusOne. Moreover, data takes FOREVER to connect. I could be getting 4mbps/2mbps one second, then 750k/300k the next, then incessant data connection attempts with no data being transmitted ... until I reboot my phone. WTF??? A month ago I was driving from Dallas to San Antonio and got nothing but Edge the whole way down ... all along an interstate highway (albeit one of the worst I've ever seen) ... the phone was even occasionally switching to "G" and it took me forever to remember what that stood for ... GPRS!!! I haven't seen that since the 90s.
If you guys think it is acceptable to get ripped off like that, for hardware and services, by all means continue condoning and promoting Tmo and Sammy's failures and inaction by rewarding them for all that. These phones went on sale 7/15, around the same time Tmo announced their HSPA+ network. Three months later, you expect at least "an" action. No credits, no buy-backs, no remedies ... only failed promises. If you bought a car that couldn't perform as advertised and spec'd, I'm sure you would act differently.
But ... judging from your comments above, you guys are entirely worthy of your fate.
Best,
DCC
P.S. I dislike Apple fanboys just as much as the next guy but at some point we all need to man up to the facts ... the iPhone has the best user experience ... and Windows Phone 7 offers the best development experience (trust me, I have written/am writing apps for all three). The only thing positive about Android in my opinion is the tight integration of all the Google apps and services ... which oddly are not favored by many Android fans on this site ... in addition, they are increasingly being integrated in the other platforms as well (albeit not fast enough). Again, why Android? If it's because you want to be this decade's equivalent of the 90s' Linux geek who spends all day customizing the OS and the environment instead of actually using it and putting to good use, then have fun! Don't feel bad ... most people do not learn from history's lessons either!
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Believe me I hear you, but you make your case weak. Individual experience differs from Joe to Jane.
The biggest advantage of Android over the other's is the hardware support for every major mobile manufacturer.
And Windows Mobile 7? We will see how the numbers look by the Xmas.
Yes, I am a linux geek, but I didn't purchase my phone because I am one.
As for the OP, Skype went downhill once they went to bed with the big red.
So why do you have a tmo vibrant? Why not get an i*hone? There are pros and cons to any device and any carrier...
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Believe me I hear you, but you make your case weak. Individual experience differs from Joe to Jane.
The biggest advantage of Android over the other's is the hardware support for every major mobile manufacturer.
And Windows Mobile 7? We will see how the numbers look by the Xmas.
Yes, I am a linux geek, but I didn't purchase my phone because I am one.
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I really wanted Android to succeed but it hasn't and I'm not necessarily blaming Android itself. I just don't see how I can choose it when the hardware and carrier are dropping the ball. All three (OS, hardware, carrier) are part and parcel. "Hardware support" is not enough when the hardware itself is not cutting it. First the Hero had build quality and connectivity issues, now the Vibrant has an elusive Froyo build and major GPS issues (in response to a previous post, I have yet to see a truly working "fix" and I have installed most if not all of them ... whoever claims it's now perfectly working is smoking something he/she should share with the rest of us).
Thank you for keeping an open mind and I do agree with you that individual experiences will vary but let's agree that this forum is proof that there are major unaddressed problems with this phone.
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So why do you have a tmo vibrant? Why not get an i*hone? There are pros and cons to any device and any carrier...
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Thank you for applying intelligence and not resorting to childish name-calling ... simply put, I left AT&T after a decade of being their customer because my non-iPhone superphones (usually purchased from abroad but compatible with US 3G) were being intentionally disregarded by their network in favor of the iPhone devices out there ... $110 a month for a discriminating data service is not acceptable. iPhones are also a little "too user-friendly" for me. I preferred a more open platform. At this point though, I will settle for a device that "just works". That is what every iPhone user will tell you out there ... the s*** just works. A phone is something that should enable you to do things with it, whether it's productivity, app development, multimedia, services, etc. A phone is not a perpetual hack factory, at least not as a primary device. If people want a side project to play with, great. What I have seen on this forum though is that most people need a phone that works for them, not the other way around.
I am waiting for the first generation WP7 phones to roll out and see what drama will ensue, if any. As you very astutely stated, "there are pros and cons to any device and any carrier". I really enjoy the WP7 mobile app development environment and so long as the phones are not involved in yet another fiasco, I will most likely get one. If not, the iPhone it is.
I'm not trolling and I do not mean to offend hard-core Linux super-users/developers but this business of shoddy phones, shoddy service and endless "hacking" is not right when we're all paying 50-100 a month for service and 200-500 for devices. I am surprised that people are not up in arms about it. There really needs to be a class-action lawsuit over this. I know, a handful of lawyers will just make a shipload of money. Still, companies cannot get away with this sort of negligence. This isn't the first time and it sure as heck won't be the last.
Vote with your dollars and best luck to you,
DCC
If browse over the iphone forums you will see the plethora of posts complaining about this and that on the iphone too.
There is no magic cookie cater for anything, you will always find something to be not up to your standards.
What confuses me the most is people complaining about the features that are not being the prime in the market cliché they are shopping - for instance, neither Android nor iOS are good examples of the enterprise use, but people still insist that my phone does not integrate well with my corporate Exchange environment the way I *want* hence the product sucks.
Everything has its pluses and minuses, it's up to an individual to weigh in the pros and cons to make a conscious buying decision.
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If browse over the iphone forums you will see the plethora of posts complaining about this and that on the iphone too.
There is no magic cookie cater for anything, you will always find something to be not up to your standards.
What confuses me the most is people complaining about the features that are not being the prime in the market cliché they are shopping - for instance, neither Android nor iOS are good examples of the enterprise use, but people still insist that my phone does not integrate well with my corporate Exchange environment the way I *want* hence the product sucks.
Everything has its pluses and minuses, it's up to an individual to weigh in the pros and cons to make a conscious buying decision.
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I really want to say "I hear ya" but here's the deal ...
a) I glanced over the iPhone fora and I am not seeing anything glaring ... mostly basic user ignorance (configuration / customization issues)
b) all the iPhone users I have asked what their biggest complaint is about their phone give me the same "huh?" look ... their phone just works
c) all the major issues with iPhone 4 were addressed with some sort of fix or another, even if all it took was a rubber band ... I have friends who exchanged their phone well after the 30 days because of the proximity sensor issue (just as an example) ... clearly, Apple took ownership of resolving the deal-breaking issues
When I walked into a T-mobile store after the first 30 days and said "I will not put up with this GPS BS" they kindly restated their return policy, gave me Samsung's support number and sent me on my not-so-merry way. When I contacted Samsung, I was told to simply wait for the update as there was no fix for it so a replacement wouldn't accomplish anything. The customer service rep literally laughed when I mentioned a return of the product for refund.
You're absolutely right ... there will always be issues but this isn't a matter of preference or individual taste ... these companies are failing to deliver what they promised and what we have paid for and rightfully deserve. I am in no way saying that the iPhone is perfect; I'm sure I would have something to complain about from time to time ... but when I borrow friends' phones to "play" with, the iPhone is fast and responsive and hasn't failed me once. Load SpeedTest side-by-side. The "Begin Test" button lights up literally instantly. I know the Galaxy S phones have the same hardware. Why is it they can't be as responsive?
As I previously mentioned, I was with AT&T (or one of the companies it acquired or merged with) for over a decade until the Hero came out and I switched to Sprint. Then I went to T-mobile for the Vibrant. I will just make my rounds until I find something that works. My problem is that I get way too overexcited about the technology and jump ship before it has had a chance to prove itself. Right now the iPhone 4 has proved itself fairly well. As I said though, as a mobile apps developer, I really want WP7 to work out so I will _try_ to wait and see. The development experience is "magnifique!"
Best,
DCC
It's really disheartening to see android sinking like this because if googles ignorant attitude. I agree with you, if google woukd be a bit more proactive like Apple or Microsoft (now that they revamped) and set a standard for the OS requirement, quality control. We can all breath better. I have a bad feeling that once wm7 hit, Android will be the new WM6.5, a cheap buggy and unorganized akternative for manuftre and carriers.
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It's really disheartening to see android sinking like this because if googles ignorant attitude. I agree with you, if google woukd be a bit more proactive like Apple or Microsoft (now that they revamped) and set a standard for the OS requirement, quality control. We can all breath better. I have a bad feeling that once wm7 hit, Android will be the new WM6.5, a cheap buggy and unorganized akternative for manuftre and carriers.
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Thank you for chiming in. Hopefully Android will survive, even if only because competition is a good thing. I think most of the issues faced today (so-called fragmentation, etc) will be resolved in the re-architecture being introduced in Android 3.0. I'm more concerned about the carriers and hardware manufacturers closing up shop after a phone has been released and only looking forward to the next model. What good is it if Android survives and succeeds if I am the one left holding the dud? "Oh, just pay another two to five hundred dollars." The worst part is that the user/owner community turns a blind eye to the egregious failures in the name of fandom. That is NOT the way to organize and effect change.
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I really want to say "I hear ya" but here's the deal ...
a) I glanced over the iPhone fora and I am not seeing anything glaring ... mostly basic user ignorance (configuration / customization issues)
b) all the iPhone users I have asked what their biggest complaint is about their phone give me the same "huh?" look ... their phone just works
c) all the major issues with iPhone 4 were addressed with some sort of fix or another, even if all it took was a rubber band ... I have friends who exchanged their phone well after the 30 days because of the proximity sensor issue (just as an example) ... clearly, Apple took ownership of resolving the deal-breaking issues
When I walked into a T-mobile store after the first 30 days and said "I will not put up with this GPS BS" they kindly restated their return policy, gave me Samsung's support number and sent me on my not-so-merry way. When I contacted Samsung, I was told to simply wait for the update as there was no fix for it so a replacement wouldn't accomplish anything. The customer service rep literally laughed when I mentioned a return of the product for refund.
You're absolutely right ... there will always be issues but this isn't a matter of preference or individual taste ... these companies are failing to deliver what they promised and what we have paid for and rightfully deserve. I am in no way saying that the iPhone is perfect; I'm sure I would have something to complain about from time to time ... but when I borrow friends' phones to "play" with, the iPhone is fast and responsive and hasn't failed me once. Load SpeedTest side-by-side. The "Begin Test" button lights up literally instantly. I know the Galaxy S phones have the same hardware. Why is it they can't be as responsive?
As I previously mentioned, I was with AT&T (or one of the companies it acquired or merged with) for over a decade until the Hero came out and I switched to Sprint. Then I went to T-mobile for the Vibrant. I will just make my rounds until I find something that works. My problem is that I get way too overexcited about the technology and jump ship before it has had a chance to prove itself. Right now the iPhone 4 has proved itself fairly well. As I said though, as a mobile apps developer, I really want WP7 to work out so I will _try_ to wait and see. The development experience is "magnifique!"
Best,
DCC
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I guess I went to the apple forums before the proximity sensor issues were resolved, and it was Vibrant GPS Redux over there.
I am glad that Apple took care of the problem after a few updates to their iOS, but as with the GPS issues on our phones the proximity sensor should've been caught during the QA, I am not gonna say anything about Antennagate.
Hopefully GPS will be patched for good on the Vibrant too, and no I do not need the proof that it is addressed with the latest update - faster locks does not mean accuracy.
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Fring was doing an excellent job, until Skype shut them down.
UGH SKYPE is a POS company
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Its those bloody Iphone Users that were clogging up the servers using Fring that caused fring to gett banned from skype
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Its those bloody Iphone Users that were clogging up the servers using Fring that caused fring to gett banned from skype
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Don't let Skype off the hook though ... I used to be a big fan of theirs but they've been very slow with delivering platform-specific clients and they seem to be playing favorites and such. Closing the door on fring, a very, very open solution out there, was a deplorable thing to do.
It doesn't matter folks ... when Google comes out with their VOIP service, and you KNOW they will (Gizmo5 acquisition, etc), all these other (dis-)services will be obliterated. I predict Google will establish its own data-only cell carrier (cause data is all you need anyway) ... hopefully within the next 2-3 years.
I know this thread kinda derailed off topic, but imma put my two cents in.
I do kinda agree with DCC, at my workplace pretty much everyone has some sort of smart phone. When the subject of phones comes up, I am the first one to bang my chest and yell ANDROID~!
But the sad truth is, iphone users like the iphone because IT DOES WHAT THEY NEED IT TO DO. they really dont care about all the stuff we have come to love about android.
So they are happy and content, while we are up till the wee hrs of the morning trying to make our phones have a milli-second faster lol.
And to me its not really trying to make our phones better than the iphone, its me just making my phone better than it was.
I am disappointed in samsung about the lag issue and the gps issue.
I dont complain about it though, cause we are all here at this website to make our phones better than it is from stock. and I am 100 percent sure , once its said and done, this phone will more than satisfy me.
As far as I've read, Fring violated Skype's API and when they were challenged Fring, instead of changing their code, resolved to drop Skype support altogether. It's basically Fring's fault for not playing according to the rules. Fring issued a statement saying that Skype blocked them. It's an unlikely story since Skype has a fairly open API and would be leaving itself open to lawsuit if they did so.
blogs.skype.com/en/2010/07/fring.html
Where are you guys reading or hearing these things from?
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As far as I've read, Fring violated Skype's API and when they were challenged Fring, instead of changing their code, resolved to drop Skype support altogether. It's basically Fring's fault for not playing according to the rules. Fring issued a statement saying that Skype blocked them. It's an unlikely story since Skype has a fairly open API and would be leaving itself open to lawsuit if they did so.
blogs.skype.com/en/2010/07/fring.html
Where are you guys reading or hearing these things from?
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Umm, definitely NOT from either side's highly partial blog, that's for sure ... which, by the way, you are misquoting. Fring did not drop Skype support all together. They temporarily disabled video calls because Skype and the carriers were *****ing about it (due to the excessive load on their networks). Then they were suddenly blocked from routing connections through Skype. This is an obvious behind-closed-doors ganging up of Skype+carrier(s) against Fring who stands alone and is one of the most open companies out there.
I get it, no one here really knows what happened when and why but ... Skype is no victim. On the other hand, the Objectivist in me says Skype should have every right to deny Fring (or any individual, company or group in the world) access to their systems. I just wish they would come out and say it instead of being all sly about it.
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Umm, definitely NOT from either side's highly partial blog, that's for sure ... which, by the way, you are misquoting. Fring did not drop Skype support all together. They temporarily disabled video calls because Skype and the carriers were *****ing about it (due to the excessive load on their networks). Then they were suddenly blocked from routing connections through Skype. This is an obvious behind-closed-doors ganging up of Skype+carrier(s) against Fring who stands alone and is one of the most open companies out there.
I get it, no one here really knows what happened when and why but ... Skype is no victim. On the other hand, the Objectivist in me says Skype should have every right to deny Fring (or any individual, company or group in the world) access to their systems. I just wish they would come out and say it instead of being all sly about it.
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Saying that a company violated API publicly when they didn't is libel.
Just answer the question, your smugness, where did you get your info (especially seeing as you're stating that it's an obvious behind-closed-doors ganging up of Skype+carrier(s) against Fring. I guess you're one of these people behind these closed doors?
Lemme get your "jump to conclusions" board for you.
i have a HTC HD2 thru tmobile, dont really have a problem with it. There just isnt enough apps for it, so i wanted to swith from windows to android. Can i do it or can i take it to an t-mobile store and they do it for me.
First of all, welcome and congratulations to your first post.
If you want to install android, you have to do it by your own.
See this thread as base for flashing anything.
Just be aware that switching a phones OS is no easy task and based on the fact you had to ask if T-Mobile would do it I get the impression your not the most technical person. So my advice to you, and this has your best interests at heart, get a native android device.
Oh and your reason for wanting android is probably the lamest in history. I have seen humans and animals with multiple missing limbs that were less lame
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Just be aware that switching a phones OS is no easy task and based on the fact you had to ask if T-Mobile would do it I get the impression your not the most technical person. So my advice to you, and this has your best interests at heart, get a native android device.
Oh and your reason for wanting android is probably the lamest in history. I have seen humans and animals with multiple missing limbs that were less lame
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First off, that's a nice welcoming post to a new user. And how is that a lame reason? Yes WM6.5 had thousands of apps (or programs, as we used to call them ) but most of them were ugly as sin, glitchy, or for very specific or technical uses. They were not centrally gathered and it gets harder and harder to track them down. Coupled with no updates, no development, and lots of vital or useful apps missing, it's a fine reason to ditch the dead OS.
I say all this as a massive WM6.5 fan. But Microsoft made it a lame duck, killed it off prematurely, and came out with a nice but not great - and very locked-down - replacement in WP7. For me, Android is the natural evolution of 6.5, and I hope the OP gets on well.
Anyway, to the OP: Welcome! I tipped a new poster some tips on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18719054 - Good luck!
I have used WM6.5 on my HTC HD2 for over a year, and I must say it's just a dead end. I sticked with it, but a week ago I have switched to NAND android and now I'm happier than ever.
I think it takes a few days to read enough about sspl, hspl, magldr etc to understand what you need to do, but I managed to do it in 2 days easily.
If you need help,let me know in PM, I can explain what you should be looking for, it can be a bit confusing.
Cheers.
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First off, that's a nice welcoming post to a new user. And how is that a lame reason? Yes WM6.5 had thousands of apps (or programs, as we used to call them ) but most of them were ugly as sin, glitchy, or for very specific or technical uses. They were not centrally gathered and it gets harder and harder to track them down. Coupled with no updates, no development, and lots of vital or useful apps missing, it's a fine reason to ditch the dead OS.
I say all this as a massive WM6.5 fan. But Microsoft made it a lame duck, killed it off prematurely, and came out with a nice but not great - and very locked-down - replacement in WP7. For me, Android is the natural evolution of 6.5, and I hope the OP gets on well.
Anyway, to the OP: Welcome! I tipped a new poster some tips on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18719054 - Good luck!
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The above is a structured and decent reason for wanting to drop an operating system (well, if you leave out the part about programs being hard to find etc). WM always took the apporach Windows did to application development and that was "Do it, get it out and then fix it later". It was just how the world worked and still does in some circles.
The reason is lame for the simple reason that it completely ignores all logic and reason. A good reason is, as i said, is like the one quoted above, or more simply, because WM has reached EOF.
As for the tone of my original post, it's not like i screamed obscenities at the OP. I didn't even insult him once and i could have, very easily. Instead, I used my professional experience as an IT engineer and software developer, as well as my experience from years of hanging out on XDA to give an informed opinion on which direction I thought GoBlue should take. If you think it would be more appropriate for me to be rude, obscene, obnoxious, arrogant and generally unhelpful (like most 10 to 18 year olds i seem to run into on these forums and the internet in general) i will gladly oblige. It would not only be funny but also make a mockery of the testing process i had to go through to become a first round RD and i'm sure the XDA moderators would love to see that.
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... If you think it would be more appropriate for me to be rude, obscene, obnoxious, arrogant and generally unhelpful (like most 10 to 18 year olds i seem to run into on these forums and the internet in general) i will gladly oblige. It would not only be funny but also make a mockery of the testing process i had to go through to become a first round RD and i'm sure the XDA moderators would love to see that.
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Not really
I think OP got enough information from the answers given. Anyway XDA is plenty of threads explaining this. Please use search function before opening a new thread and read the FORUM RULES. I am closing this thread.
I want to try Windows 8 on the S3. Everyone knows it is possible but nobody knows who is working on it nor when it will be available.
I dont think people will bother in porting Windows Phone 7.5 but when Windows PHONE 8 comes out then people will try.
But what about the full beta OS of Windows 8?, just like in the past people were porting Ubuntu over to Android Handsets.
Lets be honest Windows Phone 8 (if it is what it claims to be) will leave Android and Google dead in the water.
Personally, I'm more than happy with Android. If you really want to make this happen though, good luck, but if you are only trying to start a flame war, then please do so somewhere else.
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Maybe look at Samsungs new ativ s handset, very similar specs to s3, same size screen, nice looking phone.
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maybe windows 8 is the future
you know guys, i think android is the best mobile OS and indeed it is, but some times i am thinking maybe the future will be for windows phone, it is just a feeling, but if we look back to the 90's when windows 95 came out, a lot of people were saying it will fail, it is stolen it is, it is ...etc., but look now, windows is every where.
Microsoft now is taking the right track of developing the windows phone OS, even if we don't like it they are doing a great job and this job will take them some were.
Oh please. You haven't even seen it and you claim it will be better than anything else.
well seen as windows 8 is all closed source getting to to even boot would be a nightmare!
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well seen as windows 8 is all closed source getting to to even boot would be a nightmare!
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Finally some sense!
Getting wp8 to boot on the S3 will be a mammoth challenge, getting it to the point of a daily driver will be impossible.
No sources, no fun.
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Good luck making W8 even run on this specific hardware.
That is, even you could even access the source to begin with, considering it being closed-source. Also, good luck making it public since Microsoft will go Apple on your arse.
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Good luck making W8 even run on this specific hardware.
That is, even you could even access the source to begin with, considering it being closed-source. Also, good luck making it public since Microsoft will go Apple on your arse.
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Will 'go apple'! Love it :laugh:
not the best
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Oh please. You haven't even seen it and you claim it will be better than anything else.
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i didn't say it will be the best, but Microsoft is a smart company. and you can know a little about it by visiting youtube and searching for windows phone 8.
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Will 'go apple'! Love it :laugh:
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I bet they're willing to go thermonuclear war on this, if you catch my drift.
Phh.....it will have its fans, but seriously, am i that retarded that i cannot hit icon and i need four times bigger "widget" to do it.....im just going to stick with android for now....no offense i have win8 installed since consumer preview, but i think it just doesnt offer enough to be used by me (closed source is biggest con)
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Phh.....it will have its fans, but seriously, am i that retarded that i cannot hit icon and i need four times bigger "widget" to do it.....im just going to stick with android for now....no offense i have win8 installed since consumer preview, but i think it just doesnt offer enough to be used by me (closed source is biggest con)
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You probably are able to use the search button as well unlike the Win Phone posters who cannot be even bothered to read yesterdays i want win phone post .
jje
I honestly couldn't think of a worse OS for a mobile device. I liked windows os when i had xda's from years ago. then i had iphone and loved that, then moved to android which to me will be the best os for years to come.
the latest edition of windows phone, with tiles . . . . rubbish idea IMO!!!
At least with android you can have what you want where you want and have a good old desktop experience.
Android all the way i say!!
To the OP . . . good luck in your quest to run windows phone 8 on your gs3. :laugh:
Paul.
If you ask this it feels like you say "Let's port iOS to SGS3." Android is the best OS ever. Not because I'm saying that no because everyone says that. And WP8 is even weaker. Which Smartphones will get that? Nokias, Xingxings or other that. Android is #simplythebest! Sorry bout that but this had to be!
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wait ativ s release then go buy it
WP 8 version of s3
corporate tosh....just like Apple
Open source= anarchy in action= freedom
Enjoy your Windows/Apple slavery....personally I like my freedom
Where there is a will there is a way. If the HD2 can have Android and Windows Phone 7.5, then the S3 can certainly do it aswell.
And to those who think that Windows 8 will not be good and it is just another lame Microsoft attempt etc..
Imagine a day where you could flash ROMS and edit system files without a PC. You think Mobiles will ever allow you to flash another mobile??
Not in the next 10-15 years at least. Mobiles are largley entertainment and communication based.
Where as productivity and production-power will always remain with WINDOWS PCs. Hence, ''WINDOWS'' - Mac is a overated system which will never find a place for Mobile developers.
Why? Because of the price and the lack of customization. -- JUST LIKE iOS.
Windows 8 and Phone 8 will change the surface of Mobile in such a way that it will kill of Apple and then (sadly) Droids.
Android is cool and customizable OS but can be more unstable and insecure then any other.
At least with Windows there is security --- whether on a Phone or PC.
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Where there is a will there is a way. If the HD2 can have Android and Windows Phone 7.5, then the S3 can certainly do it aswell.
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Porting android to a new device is relatively easy, because we have access to the source, hence android on HD2. Porting a closed source OS, windows 8, to a new device is a magnitude harder and illegal to boot.
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TechMayhem said:
Where there is a will there is a way. If the HD2 can have Android and Windows Phone 7.5, then the S3 can certainly do it aswell.
And to those who think that Windows 8 will not be good and it is just another lame Microsoft attempt etc..
Imagine a day where you could flash ROMS and edit system files without a PC. You think Mobiles will ever allow you to flash another mobile??
Not in the next 10-15 years at least. Mobiles are largley entertainment and communication based.
Where as productivity and production-power will always remain with WINDOWS PCs. Hence, ''WINDOWS'' - Mac is a overated system which will never find a place for Mobile developers.
Why? Because of the price and the lack of customization. -- JUST LIKE iOS.
Windows 8 and Phone 8 will change the surface of Mobile in such a way that it will kill of Apple and then (sadly) Droids.
Android is cool and customizable OS but can be more unstable and insecure then any other.
At least with Windows there is security --- whether on a Phone or PC.
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As a long time fan/user of ubuntu based desktops (in reality ive only been using it since i believe fiesty fawn on and off of course) Im very excited to see this
Now, im having trouble seeing it stand out above the crowd, we've seen mobile os's come and go over the years.
Anywhom, to any dev's wishful thinkers, Do you think it will be possible for us to eventually build it for our photons?
I dont see it happening right away, but as someone who appreciates what ubuntu is about, and has been doing, i think its something worth working on if possible.
Hopefully its no flop like that firefox OS thing, looked and felt like a plastic doll house from china.
I guess we will find out more as it progresses, but, Im excited to see if it is a possibility.
Essentially looking at the basic system requirements, it seems the photon could run it somewhere between starter, and high end, so, who knows.
Lets get cookin! (obviously not yet)
I saw that as well and as a recent adopter of Ubuntu myself, I'm very interested to try this.
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It's not a Mobile OS as the world knows mobile os's. It's Ubuntu 12/13 Desktop for ARM with a "Phone" desktop environment. On official Ubuntu phones, you plug it into a display (TV/Monitor) and it switches to Unity Desktop.
The best way to think of it is Ubuntu Desktop ARM. From there you get the idea as to how big this really is. There hasn't really been anything like this since the Zaraus C3000 from 8 years ago.
Like, why have to choose between Ubuntu or Android, when TWRP-based recoveries, like Safestrap for example, come with ROM Slots?
because its probably very hard to make a custom phone, best to first see if theres a market for it and try to even out, let alone make profit... , is it worth the effort and money invested?
Once they succeed, then they can be more creative and flexible with what can be offered.... who knows, its possible 90% of users on this forum are just leeches who demand things and never actually give back, im hoping thats incorrect.
Myrmeko said:
Like, why have to choose between Ubuntu or Android, when TWRP-based recoveries, like Safestrap for example, come with ROM Slots?
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I can't gurantee anything but maybe one will come (for the regular Pro 1 but as they are almost the same...)
Dual boot is being worked on.
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw4B1H4h39I&ab_channel=LinuxForEveryone
Source of the video:
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/pro1-x-smartphone-functionality-choice-control/x/25022341#/
Srkineo said:
Dual boot is being worked on.
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I think it should be possible to dual boot any A/B device as long as the userdata can be a polyglot.
sonhy said:
because its probably very hard to make a custom phone, best to first see if theres a market for it and try to even out, let alone make profit... , is it worth the effort and money invested?
Once they succeed, then they can be more creative and flexible with what can be offered.... who knows, its possible 90% of users on this forum are just leeches who demand things and never actually give back, im hoping thats incorrect.
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10 odd years ago, I bought my first Android phone. It was an HTC Evo. I discovered xda-developers, found all the CyanogenMOD ROMs, etc. for that Evo, and never looked back. In 2012/13, I 'upgraded' to a Samsung S4 and didn't bother to root it, and I've 'upgraded' hardware many times since then. There was always that; 'Why am I doing this?!?' thought, in the back of my mind...but, I needed a phone to get the job done.
So, here we are in 2020, I have a Samsung S9 that works, that I bought a little over 2 years ago, but...it has Android 10, with the Samsung embellishments, but won't see anything other than security updates going forward. About this time, 10 years ago, I bought an Asus laptop. I don't recall which version of M$ Windows was installed (according to the sticker, it was Windows 7 Home), but that's irrelevant because; A) Whichever version was installed is now obsolete, B) The day after I brought it home, it was running Gentoo Linux. This got me to wondering WHY I couldn't have a cellphone that 'just works' for more than 2.5-3 years, AND was 'current!'
I was all set to pull the trigger on a Pixel 5, through my carrier, reasoning that it was the 'flagship' of the Google line and, despite the ho-hum specs, would be supported longer than the <insert OEM here> phone. Then the ALL About ANDROID podcast (twit.tv) mentioned the Pro1-X phone in TWO consecutive podcasts! That piqued my interest! As of yesterday, I ordered a Pro1-X, with the LineageOS. This is MY way of giving back to those developers that provided me with the ROMS that I downloaded, installed, and used years ago...
ALL of my computers run a version of *nix! Hopefully, I'll be just as happy with my Pro1-X (I may upgrade to the Debian offering, if available) when the phone arrives! :fingers-crossed:
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10 odd years ago, I bought my first Android phone. It was an HTC Evo. I discovered xda-developers, found all the CyanogenMOD ROMs, etc. for that Evo, and never looked back. In 2012/13, I 'upgraded' to a Samsung S4 and didn't bother to root it, and I've 'upgraded' hardware many times since then. There was always that; 'Why am I doing this?!?' thought, in the back of my mind...but, I needed a phone to get the job done.
So, here we are in 2020, I have a Samsung S9 that works, that I bought a little over 2 years ago, but...it has Android 10, with the Samsung embellishments, but won't see anything other than security updates going forward. About this time, 10 years ago, I bought an Asus laptop. I don't recall which version of M$ Windows was installed (according to the sticker, it was Windows 7 Home), but that's irrelevant because; A) Whichever version was installed is now obsolete, B) The day after I brought it home, it was running Gentoo Linux. This got me to wondering WHY I couldn't have a cellphone that 'just works' for more than 2.5-3 years, AND was 'current!'
I was all set to pull the trigger on a Pixel 5, through my carrier, reasoning that it was the 'flagship' of the Google line and, despite the ho-hum specs, would be supported longer than the <insert OEM here> phone. Then the ALL About ANDROID podcast (twit.tv) mentioned the Pro1-X phone in TWO consecutive podcasts! That piqued my interest! As of yesterday, I ordered a Pro1-X, with the LineageOS. This is MY way of giving back to those developers that provided me with the ROMS that I downloaded, installed, and used years ago...
ALL of my computers run a version of *nix! Hopefully, I'll be just as happy with my Pro1-X (I may upgrade to the Debian offering, if available) when the phone arrives! :fingers-crossed:
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Completely agree with the sentiment here. I purchased my Pro1-X (XDA edition) with the hopes that instead of chasing the next flagship every year, I will finally have a phone that I can optimize and update myself, and , more importantly, a phone that is secure and can run Ubuntu Touch.