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Hello everyone,
I am getting my rezound Monday and have a few questions, as unlock/root will be first things to do (Not an android newb, but have been away for a while). I have read many threads but haven't found info on these.
1. Using unlockHTC dev will set security to OFF?
2. Can ROMs be flashed via CWM or Amon_RA equally? Or each ROM is different?
3. Best gingerbread bloat reduced ROM?
4. Best kernel?
Thanks! I am sorry if I have missed any of these, but I really did read a lot!!!!
tats_06 said:
Hello everyone,
I am getting my rezound Monday and have a few questions, as unlock/root will be first things to do (Not an android newb, but have been away for a while). I have read many threads but haven't found info on these.
1. Using unlockHTC dev will set security to OFF?
2. Can ROMs be flashed via CWM or Amon_RA equally? Or each ROM is different?
3. Best gingerbread bloat reduced ROM?
4. Best kernel?
Thanks! I am sorry if I have missed any of these, but I really did read a lot!!!!
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1. HTC's unlock tool will only give you an unlocked bootloader, you will still have S-ON unless you're one of the lucky ones who got a S-OFF device, it's unknown if people are still working on getting full S-OFF.
2. Can be flashed either way but Amon RA seems to be the most complete experience currently, might just be me, but using Amon also helps you gain root easily.
3. Probably CleanROM by Scott, somebody double check me on that, I went straight into ICS.
4. There's only the stock kernel right now basically.
There's ICS kernels with ICS ROMs and GB kernels with GB ROMs, learn the difference or you'll get an error, but no custom kernels yet.
Good luck.
1. No. Rezound does not have s-off.
2. Use Amon Ra. CWM is not recommended as it is buggy on this phone. In fact, the thread for it has reportedly disappeared from the dev forum according to a thread in general forum.
3. Personal choice. Each ROM has different features. I'm loving Ineffabilis, I like the tweaks and there's the RedZound Theme made for this ROM that makes it gorgeous especially when coupled with the Red Beats Skin and the icon pack I'm using.
4. I don't know that much about these but I've been trying out dsb without major issues. I'm still working on the CPU settings and trying to improve battery life. ziggy's kernel seems to have issues with bootlooping. And people seem to like Incredikernel.
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I Am Marino said:
4. There's only the stock kernel right now basically.
There's ICS kernels with ICS ROMs and GB kernels with GB ROMs, learn the difference or you'll get an error, but no custom kernels yet.
Good luck.
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There are custom kernels.
ziggy's, dsb, Incredikernel.
1: Answered already.
2: I would recommend AmonRA as everyone else has.
3: Ineffabilis was a pretty good GB ROM. I never had any problems with it.
4: I would recommend IncrediKernel. Never had any problems with it either.
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Wow thanks everyone!!!!
I would love to ride ICS, but I do need reliability so I am going to hold out and do gingerbread for now. I got the rezound after having lg spectrum for like a week and seeing no dev support. Got the lg after being with iphone 4s for a few months and that's all I could tolerate!
I will keep reading. There are so many ROMs which is fantastic but just made the step one harder for me.
ICS is very stable and reliable for the Rezound. Lots of us are using it as their daily driver.
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yea ICS is def stable enough for Daily use dont worry ... i use it all the time with no problems
Awesome!!!! Which ICS would be nice and stable? I don't mind sense but absolutely hate vzw bloat.
I am going to go thru the ROMs...will look at bug reports and stability. Thank you for the help.
If you use bluetooth audio streaming, stay away from the ICS roms, otherwise they are pretty solid.
I would definitely give SenselessROM 1.1 a try. I've installed all of the ROMs that are currently on the development forum and this one is definitely my favorite. The ICS ROMs are nice, but there are some really small things that bugged me about them. Like the previous posters have said though, they are fully functional and can be used for daily use. I just prefer the look of Senseless. It also only uses around 300MB of RAM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420018
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Awesome!!!! Which ICS would be nice and stable? I don't mind sense but absolutely hate vzw bloat.
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I'm really liking Senseless-4.0.3-ICS-v1.0.0 by newtoroot. Just read the thread, notably page 40, to make sure you have the correct kernal. I'd also make sure you get the OTA update applied before unlocking and flashing anything.
If you want Sense, Scott's CleanRoms are great, whether the Gingerbread or ICS version.
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I'm really liking Senseless-4.0.3-ICS-v1.0.0 by newtoroot. Just read the thread, notably page 40, to make sure you have the correct kernal. I'd also make sure you get the OTA update applied before unlocking and flashing anything.
If you want Sense, Scott's CleanRoms are great, whether the Gingerbread or ICS version.
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Ok, I will read up on that. I just don't want any OTA that will mesa with root.
tats_06 said:
Ok, I will read up on that. I just don't want any OTA that will mesa with root.
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It improves the radio. Root is easy enough to get back.
tats_06 said:
Ok, I will read up on that. I just don't want any OTA that will mesa with root.
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As long as HTC keeps their word about wanting all bootloaders unlocked, you shouldn't have to worry about any OTAs breaking your ability to re-root. And if they did. There would most likely be a huge back-lash from the community.
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It improves the radio. Root is easy enough to get back.
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So it updates the radio...perfect. The one I have coming is brand new, but software is probably a few weeks untouched. Will check. Thank you everyone
I will finally be unlocking my rezound once I get home from school .... I'm so nervous I will brick it lol. Can someone suggest a noob friendly Rom to get started that has full functionality..I would like WiFi tether to work in infrastructure mode ..since I'm getting the vita next week. I know this question has been beaten to death but there were a lot of different threads with like different opinions and it would be easier if it is all just in this one thread for me. Thanks
I still have a stock Unrooted Rezound also..Will be watching this thread..so let me know your ups and downs..I might do this as well.
antispiral said:
I will finally be unlocking my rezound once I get home from school .... I'm so nervous I will brick it lol. Can someone suggest a noob friendly Rom to get started that has full functionality..I would like WiFi tether to work in infrastructure mode ..since I'm getting the vita next week. I know this question has been beaten to death but there were a lot of different threads with like different opinions and it would be easier if it is all just in this one thread for me. Thanks
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I really would stick to just rooted and debloated stock for now. If you reallly want a custom rom I think Scott's Clean rom's run well or Nil's business sense rom's just make sure you are downloading the Gingerbread versions. Make sure you read the threads to see about tethering since that is something i have never done so never paid attention to what works or doesn't with tethering.
P.S. unlocking is extremely easy, just follow the directions on the HTCdev site precisely and you will not have an issue. Also I would definately suggest sticking with Amon Ra for your recovery seems to have the least trouble right now. Clockwork official is really new to the rezound and I still seem to read threads that people have trouble with backups or restoring backups and sometimes even installing roms using it.
Stick to GB for now.
Read the threads and find out which one suites you best. Everyone has different tastes. Do your homework and you won't have problems.
To answer the question about tethering...the only infrastructure tethering to be found is on an ICS ROM. Unfortunately that's not "noob" friendly.
Yes- definitely read the entire threads of any ROMs you are considering so you will know what to expect as far as bugs and known issues.
Stick with Amon Ra recovery. There's an update coming with a fix if it's not already posted.
GB ROMs have ad-hoc tethering. ICS have infrastructure. But ICS ROMs are not fly functional so again- read entire threads to know what you're getting into.
I really like Ineffabilis GB. I would probably just use it with stock kernel though. I'm not seeing a benefit to using dsb although maybe I just need to play with CPU settings more.
This is my first smartphone and something that's really helped me is keeping a text file with notes on how to do everything so I don't have to search for info again when I need it. Also gathers lots of info from various threads in one place and makes it easier to learn everything. Seems it's quite different on this phone since it is still s-on.
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Yes- definitely read the entire threads of any ROMs you are considering so you will know what to expect as far as bugs and known issues.
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This ^^^^^ would be the most important advice you can get. Read, read, read.
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i dont understand why people are soo scared... its highly unlikely you will brick your phone... but if you can follow direction then you will be fine
yojoe600 said:
i dont understand why people are soo scared... its highly unlikely you will brick your phone... but if you can follow direction then you will be fine
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I think uncomfortable would be more appropriate. It's just something new to this person, and that would be a normal reaction.
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I think uncomfortable would be more appropriate. It's just something new to this person, and that would be a normal reaction.
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Yeah, and a nervous excitement. I was fortunate that WasabiWa83 offered to stand by in chat in case anything went wrong. And a week or so later when I was reflashing a ROM and the phone gave me an error message in the middle of flashing saying it couldn't read my ext sd card I got stuck on the HTC splash screen and I didn't even panic, just went through the steps I had read about and all was good again.
So as long as you read and learn, once you've gone through everything you get comfortable since you know there's a way out of any trouble you may encounter.
Unlocking is simple and easy. Don't worry about bricking the phone man. I owned an Incredible before my Rezound and installed ROMs, radios, kernels, splash screens, you name it and never had a problem. Once you get the hang of flashing stuff and go through the initial process of botching something up and figuring out how to fix it, it becomes second nature and quite fun. Welcome to the unlocked world!
P.s. Nil's business gingersense and scott's roms are great for beginners. I suggest Nil's if you want a little bit of theming and scott's if you want more basic functionality. Stick with gingerbread for now, although the ICS roms that are out there are good enough to be daily drivers and I did run them for over a month, they do have their little kinks still.
Quit discouraging ICS roms. I haven't been on GB since 2 days after the first leak and aside from bluetooth and the occasional screen flicker, they work fine.
That said, sticking to GB for awhile might be a good idea. There are plenty of people always online here ready to help if you post in the general section. Just make sure to look at stickies and such for help. A good rooting guide written my myself is linked in my signature. It is the most simple of the guides an I have updated it for the newest firmware version.
For me not being unlocked and rooted >>I would say the reason I dont jump right away is not I'm scared or nervous..its the time and effort from going to a fully working phone to a phone that might be buggy to just get just a few perks. Plus not to mention the time it takes to try each ROM out,,gheez that the hard part!!
I personally would do it to get rid of the bloat ware that could be using my battery, What the OP is doing it for? I think the same reason as me. Unless he likes looking forward to the pain like the all of you.
jdfrye said:
For me not being unlocked and rooted >>I would say the reason I dont jump right away is not I'm scared or nervous..its the time and effort from going to a fully working phone to a phone that might be buggy to just get just a few perks. Plus not to mention the time it takes to try each ROM out,,gheez that the hard part!!
I personally would do it to get rid of the bloat ware that could be using my battery, What the OP is doing it for? I think the same reason as me. Unless he likes looking forward to the pain like the all of you.
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No pain, no gain. To each his/her own.
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i just got my Rezound on Wednesday... took all about 30 min before i had my Rom Urges, and had to unlock and flash... i haven't stopped trying roms since... i need help with my addiction.. lol
I agree about ICS roms... they are awesome i like them over GB
If you want speed and battery with the stock look mainly, give cleanrom a shot! All the other GBs are themed beautifully and have have a lot of work put into them. I stayed away from ICS because I am OCD on bugs and theme issues such as 4g arrows but it ran very smoothly.
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I've told others in various threads but i'll say it here cause it can't be stressed enough. *learn about flashing kernels aka boot.img*.. I would dare to say 70% of the threads in the Dev forum are cluttered with people who never learned about flashing rom kernels with adb or tools like cleanflash that make it easier. The super-noob guide in the dev section is your best friend.
Most folks are used to the kernel being totally packaged in with the rom zip and once you flash the rom zip you're good to go. That is not the case with this phone. Learn about it and save yourself many headaches.
Well I unlocked my phone and I think it's rooted..so I should stick to GB roms? Is ineffabilis good?
antispiral said:
Well I unlocked my phone and I think it's rooted..so I should stick to GB roms? Is ineffabilis good?
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Ineffabilis is a GREAT GB Rom but to be honest they're all really good.
I think its good to start off with GB because you may run into usability issues with ICS that may cause issues for you. Flashing a GB will help you get your feet wet!
So I get one of these bad boys in the mail tomorrow and plan on activating it asap.
Where do I start? (I'm well experienced on the HTC incredible so I'm not a total noob)
1. Is there currently a preferred root method?
2. Is s-off necessary right now?
3. What is a solid starter ROM to get a feel for root with this phone?
4. Kernel's as well
5. Finally, I am happy to see a lot of familiar devs trolling these forums.
Just bought one of these for the gf and am reading reading reading due to her phone having excessive battery drain. I would ask you to check the firmware first just to see if its GB or ICS. If it's GB, then you might wanna wait on upgrading the firmware until things get sorted out, since some of us are having battery life and heating issues on ICS.
But to answer your query:
1. The NilsP stickied thread has all the info on preferred root method depending on if the phone is ICS or GB.
2. While S-Off isn't 100% necessary since a lot of the roms havent been recooked to flash all-in-one, why wouldn't you? You'd be able to switch firmware easier and it's kinda fun to do the wire trick.
3. I think CleanROM DE and RezROM are good starters, but that's subjective. Just give em a look. My chick likes RezROM and she cares not a bit about flashing.
4. There's a few kernels out there for the trying (Ziggy and Incredikernel, + a few), but with S-Off just recently being achieved, you won't see a lot at this moment.
5. Which are they? I came from the DZ/G2, then TMo Galaxy SII, and now Sensation.
Good luck, because your gain may be mine, too.
since its brand new i would used the s-off method... since it wipes your sd card anyways
enserio said:
5. Which are they? I came from the DZ/G2, then TMo Galaxy SII, and now Sensation.
Good luck, because your gain may be mine, too.
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Guys like Chingy, |||bored|||, JoelZ, Newtoroot, NilsP, a few others.
a lot of these guys did a lot of the deving that was done for the incredible. That forum split in two between the rezound and the gnex but I'm glad I'll be jumping on a phone that seems to have a vested dev community.
Since I lack the skills to create stuff I just play and recommend things.
bukithd said:
Guys like Chingy, |||bored|||, JoelZ, Newtoroot, NilsP, a few others.
a lot of these guys did a lot of the deving that was done for the incredible. That forum split in two between the rezound and the gnex but I'm glad I'll be jumping on a phone that seems to have a vested dev community.
Since I lack the skills to create stuff I just play and recommend things.
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I here you, dude. I'm the same way.
As for the devs, I'm glad their reputation precedes them. I've seen the last 3 names around a lot.
Just wanted to give some good mention to bored on his Rezrom. On mine it has the best battery life that I could ever find. Even good enough that o haven't used my extended battery for a couple weeks now.
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Snuzzo said:
Just wanted to give some good mention to bored on his Rezrom. On mine it has the best battery life that I could ever find. Even good enough that o haven't used my extended battery for a couple weeks now.
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All the devs on xda rezound have some nice roms, but yes I find myself coming back to Bored's Rezroms as well.
Hey guys. I'm excited to be receiving my new Rezound tomorrow. I'd like some advice so I can jump right in!
1) Do I need to flash any leaks or RUUs when I first get it?
2) Is there a guide to unlock and flash ROMS? I did a look and didn't see anything. (Maybe it's not stickied?)
3) I would like some advice on which ROM to flash? Back when I had my old rezound I really like Cleanrom and Business Sense. I see a lot of activity over Viper and Simplicity.
check the dev section, the sticky that says sticky roll up. All the sticky's are in there.
s-off it，then enjoy flashing
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Any recommendations on which ROM? I know it's subjective but I'd like to hear what thoughts on which are good picks nowadays.
Edit: Btw, is it okay if I keep it S-On. Getting a wire to do stuff sounds like too much work and I'm not sure it's worth the effort...I'm staying at a friend's so it's not very convenient...
If you are going to NOT S-Off then read everything carefully. Without being S-off, once you do an upgrade you can not go back. Not being s-off just makes everything more difficult. Take the 10 minutes and do it, it is well worth it.
As for Roms, if the new Rezound comes with GB you are limited and will need to do a firmware patch. If your new Rom comes with and I doubt it the new Global update, you can go with most new Roms. I always recommend to first get your feet wet with a CleamRom, it has not been updated in a while but is always rock solid. Also read each of the Rom info carefully as well, some are now only being made for S-off only.
Take the OTA update and use your phone stock for awhile to make sure there are no issues with it. After that use hansoons tool to unlock, root, and flash a custom recovery
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link to guides
this is in the sticky from the dev section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425091
FWIW on the ROM front, I recently moved from cleanrom 4.5 (which is no longer being updated) to ICS cubed and am very happy with the results
Why has this been locked?? There are no ICS ROM's that are any good??? Santod's basic ROM is just debloated stock.....
I really don't understand why they find the need to play God around here.... There are no ROM's!!! At this point there is no reason for an XDA Thunderbolt page!
STOP LOCKING THREADS... WHO GIVES A CRAP THAT IT IS OFF SANTOD'S BASE... THIS IS WHY THE PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE ANDROID... TOO MUCH POLITICS AND BULL CRAP.. JUST LET THESE GUYS MAKE GOOD ROMS SO WE CAN ENJOY OURSELVES...
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH BUILDING OFF OTHER PEOPLES WORK.. ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S CELL PHONE SOFTWARE!
JESUS H CHRIST..,..
Where can I find this ROM now? It has been removed from roots wiki as well?
5 custom ICS roms and 4 stock roms >>> HERE
Look around, there is more then just a stock rom there.
Don't speak about something you do not know the details of.
XDA has rules, so do other sites and when it comes to disrespecting me and the source from which you got your materials from, I then have rules too.
Besides, I have been told numerous times now that what I contributed wasn't anything, and easy enough to do.
So there should be no problem with it standing in any real devs way.
They simply make their own base and move on.
So crying about it is unnecessary for anyone involved, including me.
Everyone just does their own thing and moves on, simple as that.
I am hating on you Santod.. I have a lot of respect for you and i am sure everyone does.. I am on your rom right now.. The non eternity one... And it is honestly awesome, i just want a more aosp rom, i know you have a desense rom in the making but it has been pulled for weeks now.. I wanted to see mack, you, and jester all make a combined kick ass rom.. I am crying because i just want to see the tbolt finally succeed and with the help of all you great devs and hopefully an htc source code release.. The day may come.. I think you should all work together... Everyone respects all the devs but its awesome to see you guya work together.
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It's still on the host server and plenty are running it.
Check the last few pages of the thread....
I believe I posted 3-4 updates on that rom, this week alone.
Wow now I remember why I just got over this phone and moved on. Santod040 is the only one that attempted to integrate the patches into gb to get ICS for you guys. It wasn't a typical ruu, a lot of work had to go into that integration. And then everyone acted like it was open season on his work. His attitude might have been better if he was ever asked in the first place for it to be used. But he wasn't, and none of the other ICS roms really were any different than any of his. And I have seen a lot of people say that integrating the patches was easy work, but yet no other dev has done it themselves. There's a difference between development and taking someone else's rom zip, theming it, adding other tweaks also developed by someone else, and calling it yours.
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Wow now I remember why I just got over this phone and moved on. Santod040 is the only one that attempted to integrate the patches into gb to get ICS for you guys. It wasn't a typical ruu, a lot of work had to go into that integration. And then everyone acted like it was open season on his work. His attitude might have been better if he was ever asked in the first place for it to be used. But he wasn't, and none of the other ICS roms really were any different than any of his. And I have seen a lot of people say that integrating the patches was easy work, but yet no other dev has done it themselves. There's a difference between development and taking someone else's rom zip, theming it, adding other tweaks also developed by someone else, and calling it yours.
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This is a pretty good explanation of where I think santod is coming from even though it isn't coming from him directly. All of you are acting like it was some walk in the park or something to assemble the ota but it sure is taking all of you a lot longer than it took him to do.
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This is a pretty good explanation of where I think santod is coming from even though it isn't coming from him directly. All of you are acting like it was some walk in the park or something to assemble the ota but it sure is taking all of you a lot longer than it took him to do.
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Not really trying to speak for him, just back him up. It seems the easier rooting/roming becomes the less people seem to understand (or care to understand) what goes into development. They just want it now and don't care how they get it.
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Everybody respects Santod... but his ROM's are not on XDA they are on Infected Roms.... I am on his NuSense Rom for a while now.... It just seems ridiculous that Mack and Santod could not work together IMO... Now if Mack was refusing to give Santod his fully deserved credit for the Base and Stock Rom then yeah I understand.
I am not hating on Santod what so ever... I am getting the best battery life ever on his NuSense Sense 3.6 Rom... With Nova Launcher it actually moves pretty nice too for stock kernel...
Let's be honest though... Sense 3.6 sucks... Sense Sucks... We all want AOSP.. That is not happening until the Source get's released... so a Desensed Rom is something of extreme interest.
I can not wait for the Jelato Santod Rom to be done... I just figured maybe Mack or Jester may be able to throw Santod some ideas maybe and before you know if we would have a 10x better DeSensed ROM then if it was just by one particular Dev.
Yeah I mean the only thing that bugs me is that while Santod makes a good rom, he cant help himself from customizing it the way *he* likes it, and not the general public at times. Every time I use one of his roms I'm like "wow, amazing performance, sweet battery life, all the features but wtf is up with this font? Why this theme?". It'd be like getting a rewritten AOSP rom built from HTC's source, and then shipping it with a hello kitty theme I liked Mack's work because it had that truly vanilla feel to it with all the under the hood tweaks a launcher like Apex can offer. The new Jelato rom actually runs worse than the unsense rom, albeit just slightly. It's certainly better than Sense, but still kinda leaves something to be desired.
I guess what I ultimately dont get is why anybody cares if someone else rips off your work. It's not like either of them are being paid here, which means it all comes down to fame and recognition. If your motives are pure, and you are simply doing this for the community, then you should be happy that someone went and tweaked a new flavor of your rom for everybody to use. Why there's this whole desire for credit is beyond me. Seems kinda conceited. "How dare you steal my charitable donations!" What have you got to lose?
Like I said, I really dont want to see just one rom developer out there. If santod is the only one left with the skill to properly port these things, then he should be supportive of others customizing his work. It does do him or the community any good to horde all his development unless there's some sort of financial incentive in it for him and he needs revenue from this somehow. And if he gets bored or offended and quits then the TB community just dies forever? That sucks. If the only people left willing to contribute are kanger's, then let them! We cant have our entire community rest in the hands of one developer.
I support and help anybody and everybody that treats me with an ounce of respect.
IT IS NOT ABOUT CREDIT!!!!
I could give a **** about credits or your complaints about my theming.
Maybe the theming is my way of saying it's mine.
The original UnSense was about as Vanilla as it gets really.
If you don't like what I have to offer up, then don't use it, it's simple.
If the fact that someone else left their rom half sense and half aosp makes it more vanilla for you, then fine.
Use his pieced together rom, I don't care.
What do you guys want from me?
Sure, treat me like an asshole, but feel free to help yourself to my stuff....
Anyone whining about this still, needs to get a life.
Any real developer wouldn't have batted an eye, made their own base and rolled along.
If what I contributed was "nothing" and easy to do, why all the fuss?
By the way, everyone else loves the theme, you happen to be the first to complain about how it looks.
There is this thing called UOT and another called apktool, maybe you should find those and learn to use them, before you go criticizing anymore work of others.
You may find yourself with ZERO rom options!
Any useful thread on the matter that is not just santod vs the world or people complaining about locked threads will not be closed.
This is not such a thread.
They serve no useful purpose for the community.
If you have issue with this PM me, I am not looking to "play God" or any some such activity, but the denizens of this community must be spared such drama as found in this thread.
Let's all work together to create a better development community.