[Q] siyah dual boot - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello all seached around for this but got lost,ive just geared up dual boot jellybam primary and ics stock on secondary, what id like to know is if i8 flash another rom for secondary will it install its own kernal and make me loose siyah and dual boot setup? thanx anyone

xmanz said:
hello all seached around for this but got lost,ive just geared up dual boot jellybam primary and ics stock on secondary, what id like to know is if i8 flash another rom for secondary will it install its own kernal and make me loose siyah and dual boot setup? thanx anyone
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No, your kernel won't be touched. Just make sure it's possible to flash the new second rom with the Siyah kernel you use right now.
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thanx
Thank you for the answer btw any rom recommendations for siyah?
Donnie Sins said:
No, your kernel won't be touched. Just make sure it's possible to flash the new second rom with the Siyah kernel you use right now.
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xmanz said:
Thank you for the answer btw any rom recommendations for siyah?
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Well that obviously depends on which version of Siyah you want to use as they all support different bases.
You would be much better off finding a rom you like and then flashing the appropriate Siyah kernel for it. However you can start off on any kernel version you like as custom rom will replace with its own kernel anyway so just flash Siyah again afterwards.
Also please note that this type of question is not allowed for various reason.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612881

re rom
Ok i wasnt asking for the best rom etc as i know the rules) i just wanted to cut my options down a little,atm im on siyah vsync 5.. but if you say the custom rom will reflah kernal,, havnt i then lost my dual boot ive set up? thanx
TheATHEiST said:
Well that obviously depends on which version of Siyah you want to use as they all support different bases.
You would be much better off finding a rom you like and then flashing the appropriate Siyah kernel for it. However you can start off on any kernel version you like as custom rom will replace with its own kernel anyway so just flash Siyah again afterwards.
Also please note that this type of question is not allowed for various reason.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1612881
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xmanz said:
Ok i wasnt asking for the best rom etc as i know the rules) i just wanted to cut my options down a little,atm im on siyah vsync 5.. but if you say the custom rom will reflah kernal,, havnt i then lost my dual boot ive set up? thanx
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Only of you flash it as first rom.

xmanz said:
Ok i wasnt asking for the best rom etc as i know the rules) i just wanted to cut my options down a little,atm im on siyah vsync 5.. but if you say the custom rom will reflah kernal,, havnt i then lost my dual boot ive set up? thanx
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Flashing another 1st rom will 'replace' your kernel. If you flash a new 2nd rom, the current kernel won't be replaced. Clear?
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Ok got it very clear thanx
Donnie Sins said:
Flashing another 1st rom will 'replace' your kernel. If you flash a new 2nd rom, the current kernel won't be replaced. Clear?
Sent from the Matrix
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[Q] Flashing kernel over custom rom?

Hey guys,
I want to flash a kernel over my custom rom should I just flash it with cwm?
Is it going to brick my phone?
Please help
xReal said:
Hey guys,
I want to flash a kernel over my custom rom should I just flash it with cwm?
Follow the instructions flash is either via Odin or CWM .
Is it going to brick my phone?
Not if its the correct kernel .
jje
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what does correct kernel mean? some kernel that has that same KG2 / kg3/ etc stuff with your stock kernel?
JJEgan said:
xReal said:
Hey guys,
I want to flash a kernel over my custom rom should I just flash it with cwm?
Follow the instructions flash is either via Odin or CWM .
Is it going to brick my phone?
Not if its the correct kernel .
jje
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How to know which kernel is correct?
As of now I am using Sensation rom which has Siyah kernel 2.5.2 and I want to flash speedmod kernel or N.E.A.K. Kernel,
N.E.A.K. Kernel only supports sammy roms
I tried to search but I could not find out if Sensation rom is aosp or sammy do you have any idea of it?
also does speedmod kernel support both as nothing it written about it on its thread
Thanks
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xReal said:
How to know which kernel is correct?
As of now I am using Sensation rom which has Siyah kernel 2.5.2 and I want to flash speedmod kernel or N.E.A.K. Kernel,
N.E.A.K. Kernel only supports sammy roms
I tried to search but I could not find out if Sensation rom is aosp or sammy do you have any idea of it?
also does speedmod kernel support both as nothing it written about it on its thread
Thanks
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Normally on the first page of a rom thread you will get a description what is the rom. For example MIUI is well MIUI. Hyperdroid is sammy deodex rom with of course modifications and tweaks in the build to make it better than stock.
Sensation rom is sammy deodex no aosp nothing like that. And when you normally look for an AOSP rom it normally would say it in the heading of the thread anyway.
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not. Siyah works basically with any rom. CM7 to AOSP to sammy deodex. Regarding Simone's kernel which is the NEAK version or something like that it is based on only sammy stock deodex roms and that is mainly the ones in original development and android..just look out for deodex, sammy and stock rom
AS above its all a question of reading the info on the first page of the kernel post .
Plus if it does not work flash another one .
the Neak kernel should be ok been on mine for a few days .
Speedmod likewise ok have used it before .
jje
Thanks everyone for their wonderful help!
I have got one last question
Speedmod kernel says "it is only for Samsung Gingerbread ROMs. It will not work with CyanogenMod or MIUI ROMS!"
does this means it will not work with sensation rom?
Edit: ok looks like the different versions are just the updated ones
But still the question is if it supports sensation rom?
xReal said:
Thanks everyone for their wonderful help!
I have got one last question
Speedmod kernel says "it is only for Samsung Gingerbread ROMs. It will not work with CyanogenMod or MIUI ROMS!"
does this means it will not work with sensation rom?
Edit: ok looks like the different versions are just the updated ones
But still the question is if it supports sensation rom?
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DroidTrix said:
Normally on the first page of a rom thread you will get a description what is the rom. For example MIUI is well MIUI. Hyperdroid is sammy deodex rom with of course modifications and tweaks in the build to make it better than stock.
Sensation rom is sammy deodex no aosp nothing like that. And when you normally look for an AOSP rom it normally would say it in the heading of the thread anyway.
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not. Siyah works basically with any rom. CM7 to AOSP to sammy deodex. Regarding Simone's kernel which is the NEAK version or something like that it is based on only sammy stock deodex roms and that is mainly the ones in original development and android..just look out for deodex, sammy and stock rom
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JJEgan said:
AS above its all a question of reading the info on the first page of the kernel post .
Plus if it does not work flash another one .
the Neak kernel should be ok been on mine for a few days .
Speedmod likewise ok have used it before .
jje
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Dude. Did you even read these two responses from DroidTrix and JJEgan?
ctomgee said:
Dude. Did you even read these two responses from DroidTrix and JJEgan?
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Yes indeed I have.
Am I missing anything?
Please elaborate your reply
Also please keep in mind that I have no experience of this so It might be a bit difficult for me to understand
xReal said:
Yes indeed I have.
Am I missing anything?
Please elaborate your reply
Also please keep in mind that I have no experience of this so It might be a bit difficult for me to understand
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*sigh*
Ok.
DroidTrix said:
DroidTrix said:
Sensation rom is sammy deodex no aosp nothing like that. And when you normally look for an AOSP rom it normally would say it in the heading of the thread anyway.
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not.
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"Sammy deodex" means that the the ROM is based on Samsung stock.
DroidTrix ALSO said:
DroidTrix said:
On the kernel thread it has a guide of what roms the kernel works on and which ones it does not.
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AND, JJEgan said:
JJEgan said:
AS above its all a question of reading the info on the first page of the kernel post.
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You yourself said:
xReal said:
Speedmod kernel says "it is only for Samsung Gingerbread ROMs. It will not work with CyanogenMod or MIUI ROMS!"
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Now, if you look at the VERY FIRST page for SensatioN ROM,, it says:
SensatioN ROM Features:
-Based on Samsung Firmware XWKK5 Android 2.3.6
With all of this information, you should be able to deduce that the Speedmod kernel WILL work with your ROM. If you still don't understand, I'm going to suggest you don't flash anything to your phone, for fear of ending up with a paperweight.
Ok this time I understand everything
I didn't knew that Sammy roms means that the ROM is based on Samsung's stock ROM
Also I thought that speedmod only works on stock ROM so all this things got me confused
But anyways now its all clear
xReal said:
Ok this time I understand everything
I didn't knew that Sammy roms means that the ROM is based on Samsung's stock ROM
Also I thought that speedmod only works on stock ROM so all this things got me confused
But anyways now its all clear
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Sammy is short for Samsung.

[Q] Regarding dual-boot with Siyah Kernal

Hello all,
I am about to flash my GS2 - i9100 with Siyah kernel 4.1.5 and dual boot
will i be needing to install the apps that i need into both the ROMs or installing it into one of them will suffice ?
Abhijit30 said:
Hello all,
I am about to flash my GS2 - i9100 with Siyah kernel 4.1.5 and dual boot
will i be needing to install the apps that i need into both the ROMs or installing it into one of them will suffice ?
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hey ma8, in dual boot only the kernel is shared b/w the roms
the apps have to be installed individually for each roms
Sun90 said:
hey ma8, in dual boot only the kernel is shared b/w the roms
the apps have to be installed individually for each roms
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i guess i ws kinda expecting this. But just wanted to clarify once before i start. Thanks a lot !
Abhijit30 said:
i guess i ws kinda expecting this. But just wanted to clarify once before i start. Thanks a lot !
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ur welcome ma8, its always better to clarify things before doing it when urn't shure about it
but is there any possibility that i can keep my current rooted stock firmware with Siyah Kernal and flash a secondary ROM too ?
Plus, any way i can back up my Memo ?
Abhijit30 said:
but is there any possibility that i can keep my current rooted stock firmware with Siyah Kernal and flash a secondary ROM too ?
Plus, any way i can back up my Memo ?
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yes u can keep ur current stock firmware(has to be ICS) as ur primary rom along with Siyah kernel version which supports dual boot (Ex v4.1.5 of siyah) and flash any Custom rom of ur Choice which has to be ICS or JB (do not ask which one though since its against XDA rules!) as ur Secondary rom and see
for backing up of memo u can try some apps from stores and see
I just flashed my phone with the Siyah Kernal...
I have the stock firmware as my primary one ( ICS 4.0.3 ) and i wish to have a CM10 ROM as my secondary ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1794758
As per the above link, since i m doing it for the first time, i hv to flash the two mentioned files from the SD n then hv a factory reset else it will get stuck at boot...
is it so ? do i hv to do that inspite of having that as a secondary ROM ?
I am following http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680851 this thread to enable dual boot ROMs..
pls tell me if i m doing something wrong....
1. Flash Siyah
2. Flash CM10 as 2nd ROM under dual-boot options in CWM
3. Reboot
przemcio510 said:
1. Flash Siyah
2. Flash CM10 as 2nd ROM under dual-boot options in CWM
3. Reboot
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i do not have to flash GAPPS in that case, right ?
Thanks for your response...i just started with the flashing process
done with it....unable to boot into secondary ROM....phone kind of power offs after i try to boot into secondary ROM...
can u pls help ?
Of course you must flash gapps; I hadn't medtioned about it because I thought you remember about it.
Abhijit30 said:
i do not have to flash GAPPS in that case, right ?
Thanks for your response...i just started with the flashing process
done with it....unable to boot into secondary ROM....phone kind of power offs after i try to boot into secondary ROM...
can u pls help ?
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Siyah 4.1.5 is not compatible with the latest CM10 (JB Mali version) and all JB ROMs based on this build. Therefore Siyah cannot boot it.
przemcio510 said:
Of course you must flash gapps; I hadn't medtioned about it because I thought you remember about it.
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Well, i did flash GAPPS too into the secondary ROM the way it was mentioned. Still the same state, it says booting into 2nd ROM n then everything goes blank...
Abhijit30 said:
Well, i did flash GAPPS too into the secondary ROM the way it was mentioned. Still the same state, it says booting into 2nd ROM n then everything goes blank...
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You've posted the same question herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32473074 its already been answered
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Jokesy said:
Siyah 4.1.5 is not compatible with the latest CM10 (JB Mali version) and all JB ROMs based on this build. Therefore Siyah cannot boot it.
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He can because I have 1 first Rom as stock secondary cm10 and they working
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Paulius7 said:
He can because I have 1 first Rom as stock secondary cm10 and they working
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You probably have an older version of CM10.. Not the latest build mate
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HAXTREME said:
You've posted the same question herehttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32473074 its already been answered
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I had to do that bro...coz at mid night i was stuck and there was no response on this post.
Anyway, i had downloaded the 6th october build of CM10 from http://www.get.cm/?device=i9100
Like i got to know, the latest build might not be compatible. So, now I am downloading the 1st october build (thats the oldest nightly build available dats y)
Should that be fine ?
It might be. But I'm not a 100% positive. You could try n if you're not able to boot, then download another one of the custom ROMs built with a cm10 base available in the development section for now.until siyah is updated to include the new code.
Alternative is to flash the cm10 ROM and stick with the cm kernel for now.
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HAXTREME said:
You probably have an older version of CM10.. Not the latest build mate
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Ah. Sorry I don't see it
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Paulius7 said:
He can because I have 1 first Rom as stock secondary cm10 and they working
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What version of CM10 u using bro ?
I use jelly king on cm10. But no AOKP(AOSP I don't remember name)
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noob question number 5

ok guys
am having isues dual booting
installed syrah kernel fine and used STweaks to set up 2nd rom
am using a cyanogenmod 10.1 version as my 2nd rom
but it just boots into the cyanogen spinning logo - and goes no further!?
is the 4.2.1 not compatable?
thanks guys in advance
I'm not sure
After install 2nd rom you have to flash siyah kernel is it OK this part?
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yep reflashed the kernel
You will need to find out what Siyah kernel you are running as not all support dual boot.The latest version s3-v1.8.8 is meant to work with dual boot and has cm10.1 support.Check it out and download from here.
http://www.gokhanmoral.com/
Dont forget that after installing the second ROM you will have to re-install Siyah cos the secondary ROM probably wont have the correct kernel.Also a 4.2.1 ROM may need a different Siyah version than a 4.1.2 or a 4.1.1 ROM and this could also be the problem if you have 2 different firmwares running.
When on dual boot you have one kernel controling both.
ok that makes sense
have siyah version s3-v1.8.8 already running
reinstalled siyah after 2nd rom installation
still a no go
thought the siyah kernel was 'one kernel to rule them all'.......
or so it says.........
Largewoodenspoon said:
ok that makes sense
have siyah version s3-v1.8.8 already running
reinstalled siyah after 2nd rom installation
still a no go
thought the siyah kernel was 'one kernel to rule them all'.......
or so it says.........
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If I remember from when I dual booted a second ROM I had to full wipe install it.I imagine that you did but you could try and pass your primary ROM to secondary and full wipe install the new one.Then just swap them over again so the full wipe primary goes to secondary and the one you passed to secondary will come back as your main ROM.....if you get what I mean.Kind of a wierd explanation:silly:
The boot problen is definitly to me a kernel issue anyway.
yeah - will do the clone/swap thing!
by the way
are you part of the omega team?
Largewoodenspoon said:
ok that makes sense
thought the siyah kernel was 'one kernel to rule them all'.......
or so it says.........
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Its called blowing your own trumpet .
jje
Largewoodenspoon said:
yeah - will do the clone/swap thing!
by the way
are you part of the omega team?
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Yeah mate,thats what the banner says
so sorry dude
didnt realize I was speaking to royalty!
have flashed over latest omega - keep up the good work!!!!!
excellent - simply excellent
am humbled......
When you come up with a noob question number 6, can you make an informative thread title at least?
thanks glebun
its hard being a noob
like i said in previous posts - come from ios 6.1 beta3 on iphone
am enjoying android sooooooo much better - but just learning
dabble in xbox360 devkit and ps3 dev as well as ipad/iphone/ipod stuff
not stupid - just new to this area
thanks for your input - will make noob question number 6 AMAZING.......lol
HA HA!!! Royalty. .
Thanks for making me feel loved
Just about to release v38 and is gonna be a good one too so you might want to flash it.
Largewoodenspoon said:
thanks glebun
its hard being a noob
like i said in previous posts - come from ios 6.1 beta3 on iphone
am enjoying android sooooooo much better - but just learning
dabble in xbox360 devkit and ps3 dev as well as ipad/iphone/ipod stuff
not stupid - just new to this area
Basics Faqs and Guides .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
jje
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[Q] Could I set up dual boot using Siyah kernel V5.0.1 with CM9 and JellyBam?

I know we can set up dual boot using Siyah kernel but this time I want to know can I flash a JellyBam ROM as secondary while using CM9 stable for my GT-I9100?
What is the process to install the secondary ROM without messing with my primary ROM as there is a lot of data on it.
avirk said:
I know we can set up dual boot using Siyah kernel but this time I want to know can I flash a JellyBam ROM as secondary while using CM9 stable for my GT-I9100?
What is the process to install the secondary ROM without messing with my primary ROM as there is a lot of data on it.
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1) u have to check whether the Jellybam version ur trying does supports Siyah kernel v5.0.1 for now ma8
2)u have guides related to Dual boot which u can search on XDA.
Sun90 said:
1) u have to check whether the Jellybam version ur trying does supports Siyah kernel v5.0.1 for now ma8
2)u have guides related to Dual boot which u can search on XDA.
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I checked on Siyah kernel's official site but there is no mention about JellyBam ROM. Gokahn has just told about JB+ICS nothing else more much could be helpful for me.
I have read guides for dual boot but they are so simple as I'm looking for but yeah I can manage. I'm looking for a simple guide if anyone can refer or post for me.
One more question how can I increase charging speed of SGS2 using Siyah kernel?

[Q] Kernel not flashing help

I have flashed paranoidandroid 3.15 on my galaxy s3 a couple weeks ago, aside the occasional screen that win't turn on I haven't had any problem, but I set my mind on flashing a new kernel in order to be able to change thez governor. I tried to flash air kernel on, I did exactly what I was told: Boot into recovery, clear cache/delvik, installed kernel from sd card, and rebooted. But after the phone being rebooted, I still had the stock kernel.
My question is, why did this happen, and how do I fix it?
All help is appreciated
what recovery? link to the kernel?
Glebun said:
what recovery? link to the kernel?
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I'm running TWRP ( Team Win Recovery Project)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842 link to the kernel, although if you know any kernels that work better/ more appropriate for ParanoidAndroid, I am more than open to suggestions
vonniel said:
I'm running TWRP ( Team Win Recovery Project)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1469842 link to the kernel, although if you know any kernels that work better/ more appropriate for ParanoidAndroid, I am more than open to suggestions
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Kernel is for nexus s not galaxy s3
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wow, you're lucky the updater-script saved your phone. Flashing wrong firmware will kill it
Glenbun. Only mismatched, corrupted, or missing boot loaders can kill a phone.
yeah-yeah, but we should scare the noobs away from flashing the wrong firmware that potentially includes a bootloader
Glebun said:
yeah-yeah, but we should scare the noobs away from flashing the wrong firmware that potentially includes a bootloader
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Glebun u have a point, even other incompatible components of recovery zip packages can brick the phone.
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Glebun said:
wow, you're lucky the updater-script saved your phone. Flashing wrong firmware will kill it
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Wow, I feel so dumb ^^' I'll be more careful next time around.
What kernel would you recommend for me?
I recommed stock mb5 or speedmod k2-12 kernels for you
Bahadirafro said:
I recommed stock mb5 or speedmod k2-12 kernels for you
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Well, I don't really know either of them, I don't mind stock, but I want to change things, sometimes it just isn't up for the task, or uses up battery when I would rather it didn't, without even knowing what they do, and looking around, I found the perseus kernel, I would like some opinions on the kernel, I would be very grateful if you told me if it fits me, if it's compatible with ParanoidAndroid, and finally if you have a better suggestion for a kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1691401
read the first post of the thread to find out if it's compatible with your ROM.
and try it to see if it suits you
If I'm running TWRP can I still download kernels that say they are meant for CWM?
yes

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