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Hello All,
I was directed to this site by my "Verizon guy". I have a new xv6800. Dudes/dudettes, this phone is awesome. I was told that you could upgrade to different software and the phone would actually close apps, use less battery, have louder soundes, etc. I was told to look fo Dutty's Rom, but I guess this doesn't exist for this phone yet. I was wondering a few things. One could someone spend the time to "hold my hand" and walk me through upgrading...two reasons. One I don't want to kill my phone and two from reading other posts, it seems like you all are very knowledgeable. I may be able to offer money if this would motivate someone. (I know it may take time and effort). I have been using google and other threads to try and install bootloaders, etc but with no luck. I hope that someone is willing to help. This thread would also become a good step-by-step guide for all noobs.
Thank You All in Advance
Stan
swanley007 said:
Hello All,
I hope that someone is willing to help. This thread would also become a good step-by-step guide for all noobs.
Thank You All in Advance
Stan
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Here are your instructions:
1. Look at the top of this page and click "Titan Upgrading etc"
2. Click on the very first thread that says "NEED HELP??? NEW??? Read the XDA-Wiki for the Titan before posting"
That's it.
swanley007 said:
Hello All,
I was directed to this site by my "Verizon guy". I have a new xv6800. Dudes/dudettes, this phone is awesome. I was told that you could upgrade to different software and the phone would actually close apps, use less battery, have louder soundes, etc. I was told to look fo Dutty's Rom, but I guess this doesn't exist for this phone yet. I was wondering a few things. One could someone spend the time to "hold my hand" and walk me through upgrading...two reasons. One I don't want to kill my phone and two from reading other posts, it seems like you all are very knowledgeable. I may be able to offer money if this would motivate someone. (I know it may take time and effort). I have been using google and other threads to try and install bootloaders, etc but with no luck. I hope that someone is willing to help. This thread would also become a good step-by-step guide for all noobs.
Thank You All in Advance
Stan
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I am new myself with the Verizon 6800 and just completed it so I know how you feel. The info the senior member posted is very helpful and it does take a minute to figure where you are going...pm me and i will be glad to share with you...blind leading the blind...hey but now I can see....I'm updated
parcou said:
I am new myself with the Verizon 6800 and just completed it so I know how you feel. The info the senior member posted is very helpful and it does take a minute to figure where you are going...pm me and i will be glad to share with you...blind leading the blind...hey but now I can see....I'm updated
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Without the fundamental knowledge you will tank your phone. The questions you ask before you read are on a different level than those after you finish the wiki.
You may have a slightly different situation that may not be correctly answered by the first person that responds to your thread.
Read and then ask and we will be there for you.
I am sorry as I am certain this question has been asked, but... I really like my TMO HD2 and would like it even more if I could just get rid of WM on it and run only Android Froyo 2.2!
Here are my questions:
Can I remove WM entirely and just install Android Froyo 2.2?
If I can, what would be a decent ROM/Version to use and
How would this best be achieved?
I am truly sorry if my post bothers anyone, I just can't seem to find any simple and direct answer that helps
Thank you
It annoys because it gets asked so often and can be answered by a simple forum search!
Give it a go and see what you can come up with!
Sent from HD2 running Desire Android ROM
Well now...
pa49 said:
It annoys because it gets asked so often and can be answered by a simple forum search!
Give it a go and see what you can come up with!
Sent from HD2 running Desire Android ROM
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I am sorry...
I have literally camped-out on this forum for approximately two weeks now and have been unable to see anything clearly setting-out an answer that meets my needs!
I have seen and read-over about one hundred original posts that allow for the "running" of Android from an SD Card, but not as a WM replacement OS for my TMO HD2!
It is clear that many people are working very hard and I really do appreciate it! i have even submitted donations that reflect my admiration!
If you have seen a posting that directly answers my questions/needs please feel free to point me in the right direction...
Thank you
If you have spent two weeks reading on the forum.....
A short search gave me this discussion, dated 5 days ago, quite active...
First you should answer following questions:
Why do you want to run only android?
What is the problem going through winmo for android?
To answer your question:
For the moment (and probably for ever) it is not posible to run android from ROM. This is due to problems with accessing the NAND. As long as that problem is not solved, it will not be possible.
If running only android is so important, youshould start looking to replace your HD2 for an Android model.
I am sorry, but your answer is not so hard to find. So lying about the amount of time spent on searching for this subject on the forum. (especially because this question has been asked and ansewred so many times.) will not help. On the other hand, if you really spent two weeks searching the forum for an answer to your question, I wonder if you understand/know what you are doing. Either way (lying or clueless) I believe trading your TMOUS HD2 for an Android machine is for you the way to go.
If this does not answer your question, then be more specific.
Wilco said:
If you have spent two weeks reading on the forum.....
A short search gave me this discussion, dated 5 days ago, quite active...
First you should answer following questions:
Why do you want to run only android?
What is the problem going through winmo for android?
To answer your question:
For the moment (and probably for ever) it is not posible to run android from ROM. This is due to problems with accessing the NAND. As long as that problem is not solved, it will not be possible.
If running only android is so important, youshould start looking to replace your HD2 for an Android model.
I am sorry, but your answer is not so hard to find. So lying about the amount of time spent on searching for this subject on the forum. (especially because this question has been asked and ansewred so many times.) will not help. On the other hand, if you really spent two weeks searching the forum for an answer to your question, I wonder if you understand/know what you are doing. Either way (lying or clueless) I believe trading your TMOUS HD2 for an Android machine is for you the way to go.
If this does not answer your question, then be more specific.
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I think it would have been easier to simply state that it isn't possible...but if ranting helps then your welcome!
If you would have really invested some time (about 30 mins), you could have come to this conclusion yourselves.
BTW: You're welcome
Wilco said:
If you would have really invested some time (about 30 mins), you could have come to this conclusion yourselves.
BTW: You're welcome
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...yes Sir'
I think, the best way for you is to sell your Leo and buy an EVO,. because it has the same technic or better inside and Android system. Also an 8 Mpix Cam and a stand in the accu cover.
Could someone explain to me why in Desire HD Rom on HD2 does not work the camera?
because the source for the phone hasnt been released by htc yet.
thanks for the quick response ... :-(
I hope will be resolved soon ... I love having a good android on my HD2!
i always wanted to know this also so like when would the release comes?
there's the same problem on other devices such as htc desire, no camera with desire hd rom too, no?
Why? because you are lazy to read the topics...........
tinuz97 said:
Why? because you are lazy to read the topics...........
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I'm normally not one to flame newbs but it HAS been explained ad nauseum and is easily found in ANY Desire HD rom thread within the first or second page. it doesn't even take a thorough search or drudging through a 50 plus page thread to find the answer to this question.
Mods - please close
Mods.
Please close - another thread that should not have been started wasting more bandwidth.
OP - Please take the time to search the forums first. Whilst XDA members are here to help it does get a bit frustrating when questions such as this are asked time and time again.
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Why? because you are lazy to read the topics...........
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I really hate when a member who has alotta posts', always has something smart to say when a "newbie" asks a question. It's not necessary! While the post may be a waste of "space", the question is still relevant. Don't forget, "YOU" was once a newbie also!!! A simple answer could've ended this thread already. Many of us aren't as tech savvy as others, thats why forums like this was created. If it wasn't for "newbies" these forums wouldn't continue to exist. Show some respect to all, whether ur a "moderate" "senior member" or a "newbie". Thank you!
we had the same issue back in the G1 days when eclair was first ported. someone took the time to reverse engineer the camera driver to get it to work in eclair. either we get the source for it, or someone has to take good chunk of time to figure it out.
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we had the same issue back in the G1 days when eclair was first ported. someone took the time to reverse engineer the camera driver to get it to work in eclair. either we get the source for it, or someone has to take good chunk of time to figure it out.
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Just curious, is there some reason why a camera driver from another build won't work in the Desire HD ROM?
Ditto, I agree. Let's be accommodating and helpful.
microse23 said:
I really hate when a member who has alotta posts', always has something smart to say when a "newbie" asks a question. It's not necessary! While the post may be a waste of "space", the question is still relevant. Don't forget, "YOU" was once a newbie also!!! A simple answer could've ended this thread already. Many of us aren't as tech savvy as others, thats why forums like this was created. If it wasn't for "newbies" these forums wouldn't continue to exist. Show some respect to all, whether ur a "moderate" "senior member" or a "newbie". Thank you!
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rustybob said:
Just curious, is there some reason why a camera driver from another build won't work in the Desire HD ROM?
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Because its not a camera "App" issue. More of a driver issue.
motoman234 said:
Because its not a camera "App" issue. More of a driver issue.
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What prevents the use of the camera driver from a working Android build? Is it not a ko module?
If it were that easy, dont you think darkstone would have just included in the first beta itself
microse23 said:
I really hate when a member who has alotta posts', always has something smart to say when a "newbie" asks a question. It's not necessary! While the post may be a waste of "space", the question is still relevant. Don't forget, "YOU" was once a newbie also!!! A simple answer could've ended this thread already. Many of us aren't as tech savvy as others, thats why forums like this was created. If it wasn't for "newbies" these forums wouldn't continue to exist. Show some respect to all, whether ur a "moderate" "senior member" or a "newbie". Thank you!
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true. always a **** head giving a hard time like they was born with technical knowledge you all where noobs so dont look down on ppl. be a friend and help ppl in need
What a [email protected]$#%&
You are too busy to read other posts and expect answers from others that do? Get real... Search before asking the same questions over and over again
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OCedHrt said:
What prevents the use of the camera driver from a working Android build? Is it not a ko module?
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Camera driver= kernel issue. We do not have the kernel source yet. Lets hope we get it sometime soon!
tremayne0126 said:
true. always a **** head giving a hard time like they was born with technical knowledge you all where noobs so dont look down on ppl. be a friend and help ppl in need
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No, people are not getting mad just because he asked a question. Its the fact that he did not do any research at all (Which is a huge rule on this site). The answer to this question has been answered in just about every Desire HD-2 thread. Also because this particular forum "HD2 Android Development" is not for Q&A. I've seen a thread about this exact question start like once a week, and it always gets moved.
reported..
Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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I like this guy, but I have low expectations.
I personally have NO issue reading "noobie" questions. Everyone is different and I don't expect they must act like me. For you, me and others who spot a so-called "noob question", if you don't want to help then report the thread/post to mod so they can take care of. Yelling at newbies just makes the matter worse and that have been proved for ......... like you said, the past 6 months.
What irritates me more is SAME person asking the SAME question by creating multiple threads.
Therefore, for us, seniors, if you're not willing to help then just simply walk away from the thread, don't post, don't act like you are the mod.
One other issue, don't be an ass-kisser here.
For newbie, pls read the sticky thread FIRST.
This is 100% correct but you are missing one other important word to go with your "rules, etiquette and respect" slogan and that word is "Attention"
People need to pay attention! So if you could just change the title of the thread to "Rules, Etiquette, Attention, and Respect" or R.E.A.R. for short? Then I think that will cover it. So next time someone asks a question in the wrong thread? I can just point them right to your R.E.A.R.
Most of us are coming to under stand that there is no help what so ever for what the old gaurd calls common qustions so we just go else where
I spent 18 hours sunday working on my phone and I am happy with the results.
The biggest problem is even the fairly detailed instructions leave out the tiniest simple things people do not think of because they just figure everyone on earth should know it.
take for example if you are trying to get your phone ready and going right now the easiest way is to use the directions and flash to a older SU rom then up grade it from there. I searched for hours and could not find an answer to a simple question on why Odin would not upload the files I was trying to load so I had CWM.
In the end the answer, which I figured out my self, was that Odin will not load the .zip files everyone uses for CWM. I accedently tripped over a kernel that was in a different format,.tar, and got lucky.
After that I soft bricked the phone a few times following directions and then ran across the Little bricker Rom that had GREAT directions and loaded first time perfectly.
So for you old timers I might say step back every once in a while when you are writing the great write ups you do and think of the first time you did it. It is the little things that count and are left out most of the time
As Android grows you are going to have to deal with it more and more and you just can't keep kicking people in the teeth or they will not return. GOOD you say? No not good. Not everyone wants an Apple and you do not want to wind up like Nokia or the old PDA platforms that are dead and gone.
So take this how you may. I did get where I needed to go but a simple 20 minute gig took 18 hours to figure out because of the little things all of you take for granted and do not always include.
Thank you for the site
All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
The problem is visual.
The stickies was made by a dev. Just find a good NOOB to do it and youll be fine.
The first stickie must be how to flash a rom. But this one is not there. It is inside of another stickie at the line 157... cmon
The noob that decides to flash wont read all the stuff. He'll just read the info that he wants.
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RatusNatus said:
All said here is true but as a noob i must say that there is a lack of usual information here.
A BIG lack...
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I don't think there is a lack of information, far from it. I think the problem is that the information is scattered. For example, the guy 2 posts up that tried to use a .zip in Odin...the information that you need to use a .tar is posted in these forums, it's just not in an easily accessible place like the FAQs. I think it's a combination of: lack of organization on the forum's side and laziness on the user's side.
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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Phalanx7621 said:
Howdy all! If you've seen me around you'll know I love being an active member of these forums. With my job I have free time some days (some days NONE lol) and helping people makes me happy. I hate causing problems. But there has been a rash of interesting posts within the last 6 months (maybe going back farther but there has been an increase in the past 6 months that I've noticed) of people beginning their posts with:
" sorry for the noob question, but..."
Also, some start with, " sorry I did a search but I'm pressed for time and...."
OK. Look. When I joined up, I had to watch a video. It showed me how much of a noob I am, and told me to search, then search some more, and finally, SEARCH. Again. Now, maybe I'm crazy, but that is still XDA policy. Just because yer new, it doesn't give u an excuse to be lazy. Just because yer in a hurry , it doesn't give u the right to ignore the rules u agreed to when u signed up here.
I was a noob too. A year ago. Guess what? From day one I searched. And searched. And searched again. Why? Cause I love solving as many problems as I can ON MY OWN. Lets try and get back to that. Google search is a great tool. Yes the mobile app search is limited. But u have a browser on your phone. U can go to the actual site and search there as well. Remember, we're a community. And these rules are put in place to help us and maintain some semblence of order.
Remember folks when u search first, and don't post a new thread for something easily found, it not only looks better for u. But it reflects the respect u have for this community and its mods/devs.
Good luck all, happy flashing.
P.S. Red, if have to close this thread, just know this meets my quota for rants for the month.
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you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
I think some of you have forgotten how this place originally came about and its primary purpose. It was and still is, mostly, a place for developers and development. It was never supposed to be a help desk. That it is a great resource for people needing help is a secondary byproduct, not its raison de'tre. I think this misunderstanding is what leads to incorrect assumptions and expectations and, in turn, hurt feelings when the forum doesn't meet what some think it should be.
RatusNatus said:
Sorry about my english, there is a communication lack.
you are right, the info was there but people just dont get it...why is that?
Ive edited my previous post...
There is too much info. The noob needs the basic. Step by step he will learn.
Inside the Red stickie, look at the title of the topics listed there.
That is chinese to a noob.
How to flash custom binaries... what a hell is a binarie?
How to flash... the counter?
What... counter?
That is not made for noobies...as i said before, find a noob to do it.
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I respectfully disagree. The noob does not need a step by step guide. The noob needs to read, research, and learn so that he (or she) can make sense of the available information. a quick guide so the noob "can haz ROM nao" is only going to lead to a disappointed, knowledge lacking noob later on down the line...
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Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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And you need to remember that the developers in here, for the most part, don't get paid for what they do. We get all their great stuff for free. Actually, we get it for the cost of doing our own research and finding our own solutions. Seems like a fair trade to me.
And as dandrum noted, helping noobs by leading them by the hand is a bad idea. People need to understand fully what they are doing and what it does because otherwise when they inevitably run into a problem they will have no idea what to do to fix it or where to start to even look. This stuff isn't rocket science, but it does require a certain level of comprehension. it is unfair to expect the unpaid members of this forum to bail people out when something goes wrong because they either didn't do their homework or have no understanding of what they're doing.
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Yes Miami but this place become a lot bigger than any dev could think.
Is this bad?
Devs cant complaim about it.
This is the price if sucess.
Just get over it...
Ps. I think he post it cuz he want...
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No they absolutely can complain because this is still a developer Site no matter how popular it becomes.
mmtrago said:
you're not even a mod...what gives you the right to post this?
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What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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From my perspective I feel as though the vast majority of the time I have virtually no reason to post.
This is usually because of one of the following:
a- someone else has asked a question that I do not have the answer to, not that I'm a n00b but do not know or I would rather leave it up to the real devs to deal with it;
b- I would just be either flaming someone for asking a stupid question or leave a stupid question unanswered because some things should just be figured out by yourself; or most importantly
c- if i have a question or some other issue I can search for it or spend time reading through many posts because there are enough people and knowledgeable people around here that at this point my question or any sort of problem has already been answered, or at least the question has already been asked so there is no reason to spam the same questions over and over.
so just always remember before you make a possibly redundant post there are plenty of us sitting back and reading because usually that is all you need to do
What gives you the right to post? You're not a mod either. Also, basically everything he said was correct.
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good one..
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good one..
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Wasn't supposed to be. The logic is sound.
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Lol, did you really had to made this useless post?
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Someone had to outline it
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**** has been outlined in almost every single thread I have look into.
I've been looking everywhere and just need some direction on where to find a stock Rom for the HTC one for at&t version. Also I want to know if my phone will still be rooted or not afterwards? I know it normally has to be a rooted Rom but that surely wouldn't get rid of root just because I flash a stock Rom? And is flashing it essentially having stock or is there a way I can go completely stock and it not even have access to bootloader and can anymore? Thanks in advance for any help I'm still not very good at this.
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I've been looking everywhere and just need some direction on where to find a stock Rom for the HTC one for at&t version. Also I want to know if my phone will still be rooted or not afterwards? I know it normally has to be a rooted Rom but that surely wouldn't get rid of root just because I flash a stock Rom? And is flashing it essentially having stock or is there a way I can go completely stock and it not even have access to bootloader and can anymore? Thanks in advance for any help I'm still not very good at this.
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You should look in the right place first, like the att HTC one forum perhaps.
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golabski said:
I've been looking everywhere and just need some direction on where to find a stock Rom for the HTC one for at&t version. Also I want to know if my phone will still be rooted or not afterwards? I know it normally has to be a rooted Rom but that surely wouldn't get rid of root just because I flash a stock Rom? And is flashing it essentially having stock or is there a way I can go completely stock and it not even have access to bootloader and can anymore? Thanks in advance for any help I'm still not very good at this.
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Be prepared to get smart ass comments like the one above mine. If you flash a stock Att ROM you will still be rooted. You can find one in the android development section. In order to get rid of custom recovery you would need to run the Att ruu. You first have to relock your boot loader. There are several informative videos on you tube. Just do a Google search for Att ruu for HTC one.
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capathy21 said:
Be prepared to get smart ass comments like the one above mine. If you flash a stock Att ROM you will still be rooted. You can find one in the android development section. In order to get rid of custom recovery you would need to run the Att ruu. You first have to relock your boot loader. There are several informative videos on you tube. Just do a Google search for Att ruu for HTC one.
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How was that persons response a smart ass response...
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Nick281051 said:
How was that persons response a smart ass response...
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I don't know if it was smartass (it definitely wasn't that smart)...but it was rude.
A person asked a question...and a second person not only did not answer it but tried to shame him/her by saying: "you should look in the right place".
What's up with that??
Why are some of the older members on these forums (some with thousands of posts) so hostile to newbies??
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I don't know if it was smartass (it definitely wasn't that smart)...but it was rude.
A person asked a question...and a second person not only did not answer it but tried to shame him/her by saying: "you should look in the right place".
What's up with that??
Why are some of the older members on these forums (some with thousands of posts) so hostile to newbies??
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That's exactly what I meant. It happens a lot on XDA. Instead of using your response to help a person, they either have a smart comment or try to make the person asking the question feel stupid.
ffontan said:
I don't know if it was smartass (it definitely wasn't that smart)...but it was rude.
A person asked a question...and a second person not only did not answer it but tried to shame him/her by saying: "you should look in the right place".
What's up with that??
Why are some of the older members on these forums (some with thousands of posts) so hostile to newbies??
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How do you know this person didn't post in the international section originally and was moved here by a mod? So don't make assumptions like that because I've seen it happens many times. And most of us aren't mean, we just don't feel the need to do all the legwork for said noobies. That gets no one anywhere if people can't figure these things out by themselves they should not be modifying their expensive devices. Not trying to be mean, but we do not want people bricking their phones here.
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That's exactly what I meant. It happens a lot on XDA. Instead of using your response to help a person, they either have a smart comment or try to make the person asking the question feel stupid.
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We don't make anyone feel stupid. If anything they make themselves look stupid especially when the answer they're looking for is right in front of them but they just feel like someone should send them a link because they're entitled to it.
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This is exactly why I hate looking for answers on forums. If people would help out and actually provide some helpful answers then people would be able to find the right solution when searching. I can't tell you how many threads and posts I've had to go through because of spiteful responses.
I understand my reply doesn't help the OP, but I just had to say something.
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Yeah...I have only been posting for a day but I've been reading these forums for a while and I've noticed a certain level of hostility especially towards newbies...
I asked a simple question yesterday (as my first post) and the very first response was a smartass remark...I wasn't even surprised.
There is a lot of nerd rage around these forums I suppose, and been an electrical engineer I am used to dealing with that...but still, I thought this was supposed to be a "community".it'd be funny if everytime one of my neighbors asked me a question about how to do something, I answered like that.
And by funny I mean, I'd be an asshole for answering like that.
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How do you know this person didn't post in the international section originally and was moved here by a mod? So don't make assumptions like that because I've seen it happens many times. And most of us aren't mean, we just don't feel the need to do all the legwork for said noobies. That gets no one anywhere if people can't figure these things out by themselves they should not be modifying their expensive devices. Not trying to be mean, but we do not want people bricking their phones here.
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First of all... why does it matter if a person posted somewhere else?
Secondly, there is no need to be hostile or defensive...ever.
Third, no one is asking anyone any work...some people are just asking simple questions about how to from A to B.
Fourth, if a person asks a question, and a second person doesn't know the answer then they shouldn't answer. And if their intent is to point in the right direction they could just say:
Hey, check this forum out and here is a link... no need for smartass remarks.
ffontan said:
Yeah...I have only been posting for a day but I've been reading these forums for a while and I've noticed a certain level of hostility especially towards newbies...
I asked a simple question yesterday (as my first post) and the very first response was a smartass remark...I wasn't even surprised.
There is a lot of nerd rage around these forums I suppose, and been an electrical engineer I am used to dealing with that...but still, I thought this was supposed to be a "community".it'd be funny if everytime one of my neighbors asked me a question about how to do something, I answered like that.
And by funny I mean, I'd be an asshole for answering like that.
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First of all... why does it matter if a person posted somewhere else?
Secondly, there is no need to be hostile or defensive...ever.
Third, no one is asking anyone any work...some people are just asking simple questions about how to from A to B.
Fourth, if a person asks a question, and a second person doesn't know the answer then they shouldn't answer. And if their intent is to point in the right direction they could just say:
Hey, check this forum out and here is a link... no need for smartass remarks.
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Because if they post in the international section they wouldn't have much help there as most people with the at&t version post here where there is also an ruu.
Second, there's only a few here that may be hostile. Telling people to search is not hostile.
Third, why should we spell it out for someone again if by taking a look around before posting will answer their questions?
Fourth, that's what most people do, except they don't always post links because they shouldn't have to. Most people I see tell the person with the problem exactly where to find the answer and linking to it isn't necessary. Do some people do it? Sure, but it shouldn't be necessary.
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I understand there are some stupid questions asked on XDA but overall the attitude is hostility. It's been that way since I started rooting/flashing 4 years ago. XDA is very intimidating as a noobie. You have to learn lingo/terms and even as a half way experienced flasher I still read read read and sometimes am unclear on some things. There are a lot of helpful people on here and the devs are amazing but sometimes honest questions get ripped.
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Because if they post in the international section they wouldn't have much help there as most people with the at&t version post here where there is also an ruu.
Second, there's only a few here that may be hostile. Telling people to search is not hostile.
Third, why should we spell it out for someone again if by taking a look around before posting will answer their questions?
Fourth, that's what most people do, except they don't always post links because they shouldn't have to. Most people I see tell the person with the problem exactly where to find the answer and linking to it isn't necessary. Do some people do it? Sure, but it shouldn't be necessary.
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Telling people to search may not be hostile but is douchie...If the person is in these forums is because they are searching. If I know the answer to a question that someone asks, I have two options, I can either choose to answer it or choose not to answer it. If I choose to not answer it then I should not type a smartass remark.
So here is a simple suggestion for some of the most hostile older members of these forums...
If you don't feel like you should answer a person's questions then don't ****ing answer the question...Why spend the extra effort to try to be a smartass??
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By the way Nick...
You have not been hostile to me...just to be clear...
Which baffles me that you are defending some of the a-holes who are.
I agree people shouldn't be aholes but I'm just trying to explain why the attitude around here is the way it is, I started as a noob once (back in the captivate days) the first thing I did when I tried to root that thing was mess it up, and I was able to fix it by myself without asking for the easy way out. Most people expect everyone who joins to do that so that's why people say "search before posting" and if you still can't find the answer then no one will be hostile in any way and will most likely answer your question politely. That's all, I understand it's intimidating but we just encourage people to problem solve by themselves first and ask questions after
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I try not to be a smartass but if someone posts something really obvious then I will tell them to search and nothing else
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[/COLOR]I try not to be a smartass but if someone posts something really obvious then I will tell them to search and nothing else
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This is kind of my point though...
No need to do that. When I know the answer to a question I either choose to answer it or not answer it... To say "hey, go search search"...is rude.
What makes you think that person wasn't searching? I can tell you if they found these forums is because they are searching...and perhaps they could not find the answer.
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This is kind of my point though...
No need to do that. When I know the answer to a question I either choose to answer it or not answer it... To say "hey, go search search"...is rude.
What makes you think that person wasn't searching? I can tell you if they found these forums is because they are searching...and perhaps they could not find the answer.
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Usually you can tell, especially with people that make new threads like" how do i return to stock?" those kinds of things make it obvious that the person didn't look at all. Most of the time I will point them in the right direction and hope they can figure it out on their own, otherwise they shouldn't root/mod their phones. That's all.
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The problem is that there are so many threads with misinformation and you never know which method to follow since there aren't many "official" threads in how to do something. Most of the time I search and read various methods and then will usually have to go with the mostly used method.
What I describe above is what is wrong with the internet in general.. not just xda.
You never know who knows what and when you find an answer your hoping it's right.. but I've been burned before where you follow someones suggestion, but then 20 minutes later, someone with more experience gives the right solution.
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few quick questions
I flashed the Google Edition ROM earlier today and I have a couple of quick questions about the Google Edition ROM...
Right now my home screens are set to 4x4 arrays and the # of icons on the dock is also limited. Is there anyway to change this while using the stock launcher? I have the Nova launcher installed now, but I was wondering if there was any level of customization that could be done on the stock launcher?
Also the stock launcher is not allowing me to re-size widgets and such...is that a by product of this "Google Edition" using the Sense framework?
Lastly is the Trebuchet launcher on CM any better when it comes to customization? And anyone who has tried both and has an opinion one way or the other?
I'll greatly appreciate the help.
Flashed the CM10.1 June 28 nightly played with it for almost a day...liked it a lot but will stick to the Google Edition ROM for the time being...mostly based on Stability (and silly as it may sound the Beats Optimization)
Will probably switch to CM 10.1 once it reaches Release Candidate status or Stable version.
Great job so far...I really really like where CM is heading.
I have to agree with all of you in one way or another. When a person asks for help trying to locate information about their device. it really is not hard to either answer with a proper response of, Did you search for your info? Where did you look? And there certainly is no problem with going, this is what your looking for, hope i helped. (link)
As a senior member myself, i still have had times where i asked for some assistance because i could not find exactly what i was looking for, I have read, and searched, and searched, and read. and when i have asked questions... i have gotten one of two responses, here is what you are looking for, hope i helped you out. And the other being, you are not entitled to any help, go search, if you dont have time to search, you shouldn't be in the forums or modifying your device. also.. you must not mod alot of devices if you have to ask that question, you surely don't know what you are doing.
People here can be rude. if a person doesn't want to help, here is the thought.. you are entitled to keep your mouth shut instead of be a smart ass and let someone who is willing and patient to help the newbie understand what they are doing and help guide them. this is how beginners turn into our next gen of devs. and certain people acting like A**es makes them not want to be part of this community. I have gotten rid of certain devices because i couldnt tolerate the rude ignorant remarks in those device communities. it is also another reason that i dont do dev work anymore and dont post as much as i used to. People are rude.
i feel entitled to ask a question in hopes of an answer that may help me. you are entiled to keep your mouth shut if you plan on being rude in regards to said question.
to my last statement..... you have a better chance at scratching a bobcats ass, than coming up to me and talking to me in that sweet sister ass voice.
help the person or not. but at least have some dignity not to be an a**hole!!