I am sorry as I am certain this question has been asked, but... I really like my TMO HD2 and would like it even more if I could just get rid of WM on it and run only Android Froyo 2.2!
Here are my questions:
Can I remove WM entirely and just install Android Froyo 2.2?
If I can, what would be a decent ROM/Version to use and
How would this best be achieved?
I am truly sorry if my post bothers anyone, I just can't seem to find any simple and direct answer that helps
Thank you
It annoys because it gets asked so often and can be answered by a simple forum search!
Give it a go and see what you can come up with!
Sent from HD2 running Desire Android ROM
Well now...
pa49 said:
It annoys because it gets asked so often and can be answered by a simple forum search!
Give it a go and see what you can come up with!
Sent from HD2 running Desire Android ROM
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I am sorry...
I have literally camped-out on this forum for approximately two weeks now and have been unable to see anything clearly setting-out an answer that meets my needs!
I have seen and read-over about one hundred original posts that allow for the "running" of Android from an SD Card, but not as a WM replacement OS for my TMO HD2!
It is clear that many people are working very hard and I really do appreciate it! i have even submitted donations that reflect my admiration!
If you have seen a posting that directly answers my questions/needs please feel free to point me in the right direction...
Thank you
If you have spent two weeks reading on the forum.....
A short search gave me this discussion, dated 5 days ago, quite active...
First you should answer following questions:
Why do you want to run only android?
What is the problem going through winmo for android?
To answer your question:
For the moment (and probably for ever) it is not posible to run android from ROM. This is due to problems with accessing the NAND. As long as that problem is not solved, it will not be possible.
If running only android is so important, youshould start looking to replace your HD2 for an Android model.
I am sorry, but your answer is not so hard to find. So lying about the amount of time spent on searching for this subject on the forum. (especially because this question has been asked and ansewred so many times.) will not help. On the other hand, if you really spent two weeks searching the forum for an answer to your question, I wonder if you understand/know what you are doing. Either way (lying or clueless) I believe trading your TMOUS HD2 for an Android machine is for you the way to go.
If this does not answer your question, then be more specific.
Wilco said:
If you have spent two weeks reading on the forum.....
A short search gave me this discussion, dated 5 days ago, quite active...
First you should answer following questions:
Why do you want to run only android?
What is the problem going through winmo for android?
To answer your question:
For the moment (and probably for ever) it is not posible to run android from ROM. This is due to problems with accessing the NAND. As long as that problem is not solved, it will not be possible.
If running only android is so important, youshould start looking to replace your HD2 for an Android model.
I am sorry, but your answer is not so hard to find. So lying about the amount of time spent on searching for this subject on the forum. (especially because this question has been asked and ansewred so many times.) will not help. On the other hand, if you really spent two weeks searching the forum for an answer to your question, I wonder if you understand/know what you are doing. Either way (lying or clueless) I believe trading your TMOUS HD2 for an Android machine is for you the way to go.
If this does not answer your question, then be more specific.
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I think it would have been easier to simply state that it isn't possible...but if ranting helps then your welcome!
If you would have really invested some time (about 30 mins), you could have come to this conclusion yourselves.
BTW: You're welcome
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If you would have really invested some time (about 30 mins), you could have come to this conclusion yourselves.
BTW: You're welcome
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...yes Sir'
I think, the best way for you is to sell your Leo and buy an EVO,. because it has the same technic or better inside and Android system. Also an 8 Mpix Cam and a stand in the accu cover.
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is there a way to permanently have android on the hd2? i mean without having to run clrcad, then haret on froyo 2.2? like is there a way to remove winmo altogether? im just tired of having to reboot to android everytime i change battery all the time.
you are tired of having to reboot and the community is tired of seeing the same questions.
to answer, let's just say that android is never ever ever going to be permanent. if it is ever permanent, you'll have to read about it
To your question yes I believe so but it's a work in progress. For other members that have an issue answering a simple question more than once, why reply in the first place? Unlike bravo who apparently have all day to read every page and post that go well over 200 pages. The time it took to write your little spiel you could of answered the question!
There is currently no permanent way to flash android to our HD2s. It is in development. Right now we have builds of android that can be launched using HaRET from our SD cards. No one except the people working directly on the NAND project know when it will be completed. I wouldn't recommend asking when it will be done. Trust me, once it has been released you will know. It wont be possible to miss it.
While not always the easiest way to get answers, using the "search" function is the BEST way to get them. You will learn a lot more than just what you were asking, and expand your knowledge base to help make you more profficient with your own device. If you have done a couple searches and can't find what you're looking for, then ask. I would include though that you have tried searching and didn't have any luck. That should keep flaming to a minimum. Most people here just want to know that you tried.
Best of luck with your phone and welcome to the world if LEO.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
Okay, thanks for the replies, I didn't mean to type the same question..? (that was my first post) >.>
Oh and I have tired to search and nothing about permanently removal of windows mobile or full android flashing guide.
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Okay, thanks for the replies, I didn't mean to type the same question..? (that was my first post) >.>
Oh and I have tired to search and nothing about permanently removal of windows mobile or full android flashing guide.
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Head over to the android development general forum. Look for a thread titled "NAND Discussion..." 900+ pages off goodness on the topic.
You wont find a how-to thread yet as its not available to the public.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Unlike bravo who apparently have all day to read every page and post that go well over 200 pages. The time it took to write your little spiel you could of answered the question!
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i answered the question. and answering it is also enabling users to skip past the search button and fill threads and subforums with questions that have already been answered.
so, klee, "how can i install iphone on my hd2???"
Hey guys,
let me start with a quick BIG thanks to all the great chefs in the HD2 cooking class! I have seen many improvements in my device from it's original ROM and it seems it is getting better and better every day! Now my question is when can we realistically expect Windows 7 on HD2? I've seen that it's been cooked in (as shown in yahoo) already but do we have an estimate of when we can have a working ROM? is anybody working on it? is there any problems with the upgrade and our device compatibility?
Well Mr. Observer, let me start by saying your observation skills are lacking. You would know that realistically the first question you should ask yourself is, When was the last time a rom chef had given an ETA for a rom that they had no drivers for was? Or even better, When was the last time a rom chef had given an ETA for anything?
Start with those questions, and then you'll soon come to an answer.
No, you shouldn't
tomorrow.
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Well Mr. Observer, let me start by saying your observation skills are lacking. You would know that realistically the first question you should ask yourself is, When was the last time a rom chef had given an ETA for a rom that they had no drivers for was? Or even better, When was the last time a rom chef had given an ETA for anything?
Start with those questions, and then you'll soon come to an answer.
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I think he is not asking for a firm ETA.
more like if there are any cooks already working on it.
XDA cooks are known to do wonders and that's why he is wonder if anyone is cooking anything soon.
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Well Mr. Observer, let me start by saying your observation skills are lacking. You would know that realistically the first question you should ask yourself is, When was the last time a rom chef had given an ETA for a rom that they had no drivers for was? Or even better, When was the last time a rom chef had given an ETA for anything?
Start with those questions, and then you'll soon come to an answer.
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I think people like you take all the energy out of everything.. personally i find critical people very useless! if you have nothing to add to the conversation then why join it? looking back at your last few posts (where you're giving **** to someone for spelling errors in a worldwide site where many people use English as 2nd or 3rd language) i really come to understand your attitude pretty well.
....ignoring the above and going back to my original question! I know you guys like to keep it a surprise but is anyone actually working on it good people?
here is a link to what seems to be a legit coocked rom from Cotulla
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f_NJatLVQk&feature=player_embedded
I can tell you exactly what Windows 7 on HD2 will not, but the Windows Phone 7 possible!
I would appreciate some guidance with my question. I have a G-TAB that is running the Android 2.2 OS. I am aware that there are better OS systems available for the G-TAB with more capabilities, but I have heard that some of them disable FLASH and the CAMERA capabilities? I was wondering if there was a better OS upgrade out there in the development world that would not disable some of the origianl G-TAB features? Also, since I am a novice in this area, is there a service available that will perform this OS upgrade for me for a price? Please advise as I would like to move forward with the suggested upgrade. Many thanks!
There are some good froyo roms such as brilliant corners, mountain laurel, And a couple more that don't lose any functionality. There are plenty of guides to follow to change roms. Just read them carefully and follow the instructions. Don't pay someone to do it.
I'm more than happy to do it but I'm expensive. Considering that it costs 200+ more to buy a unit with Linux on it, I would charge the same for any possible version of Android. The majority of the price is the liability and time. I can fix anything, that's not the problem. The real problem lies in how we're forced to upgrade devices. It's a pretty straight forward process but if anything goes wrong it could take hours of research to figure it out.
If you're willing to pay $200 and ship it to me with a return label, I'm more than happy to help you out. Honestly you could do the same things I'm going to do if you put a little time into the research here on XDA and the other forums out there. If you're too busy or not technically inclined I can understand that. Daddy needs a new pair of shoes as they say...
PM me if you still need someone to help.
I'm not aware of any real service for flashing tablets. But we aware that if you pay someone to flash a new ROM you'll have no knowledge of how to fix it when things go wrong. And things will eventually go wrong. If you want to run anything other than stock, it's absolutely necessary to understand at least the basics of modding android devices. Check out http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/ to get started. Good luck.
seiously, these topics are getting OLD quickly...
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Patience yoda we have a young padawan among us
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Patience yoda we have a young padawan among us
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Obviously not an illiterate one, though.
Does anyone ever read first, then ask questions anymore?
I know that it can get confusing, but really. Before I got my Gtablet back in April, I read just abotu every thread on here, and watched just abotu every youtube video available.
Was I fearful when I flashed my first rom? Absolutely. Did it work flawlessly? Absolutely. Did I read, re-read, watch videos, re-read, read step by step as I was doing it, then read again when I was done to make sure I didn't skip a step...YOU BET YOUR BIPPY I DID.
The reason that I get blunt when I see these questions is because this tablet has been available for almost a year. There is more information available for this device on several forums that there should be no reason to ask questions that have been answered at least 50 times.
If you seriously need a "service" to flash a rom for you, then you REALLY should have bought an iPad, and have been stuck with whatever Apple provides.
FORUM RULES:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
Is their a walk through for installing a Custom ROM on Windows Phone 7.5? I've got the HTC Radar, unlocked. I've jail broken Iphones/pods and Root/Unlocked Android, but Windows Phone 7 seems a lot more complicated, I have searched but can't find a walk through sort of thread in the first 3 pages of results.
Thanks in advance, John
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Is their a walk through for installing a Custom ROM on Windows Phone 7.5? I've got the HTC Radar, unlocked. I've jail broken Iphones/pods and Root/Unlocked Android, but Windows Phone 7 seems a lot more complicated, I have searched but can't find a walk through sort of thread in the first 3 pages of results.
Thanks in advance, John
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Well thanks for **** all, XDA Developers, i'll find a forum that will reply to member asking genuine questions, complete waste of my time, i know where to avoid in future:highfive:
BLAME your laziness!
JohnCSElwell said:
Well thanks for **** all, XDA Developers, i'll find a forum that will reply to member asking genuine questions, complete waste of my time, i know where to avoid in future:highfive:
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i guess people just sit at they're PCs all day waiting for someone to ask a question...
everyone has their own lives outside of xda , patience would've gotten you an answer
Wow....
any ass-hat that complains about this forum not helping hasn't spent time on xda. Best group of people anywhere for phone help from a to z. Is it to much to expect that someone actually spend time looking for an answer before they ask a question? I think not. Don't know why I felt it necessary to vent on that, but good riddance to him . :good:
This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. I read many posts with members stating that the thread is just too long to read. Then using that as an excuse for not reading at all. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
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This will be a launching pad for tips and recommendations for members negotiating long threads and reading pertinent information. Please add your ideas and methods for reading.
The first thing I do when looking at a new thread is read the OP. I always check dates and also the date of the latest iteration of the ROM, kernel, etc. after reading what the author wrote about their thread I'll jump to the end of the thread and read backwards to the date of the latest release. This gets me up to date with the latest build and any issues.
Then I'll decide if I want to flash this on my very expensive device.
Like I said...
Please add on your tips!
Thanks!
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Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
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Great idea Ray. Teach by teaching, not by beating a person over the head lol
I go to the OP also and if I am interested in flashing, go back a month or two and read posts to see if things are stable or not. I also follow a bunch of Roms that I don't intent to flash or, have flashed before - just to see what kind of problems have arisen and how they were dealt with. It's a great way to pass a ride on the train or other idle time. I do think that there are many from around the world here and language might be a factor effecting their ability to read and/or search. Either way, I love this XDA, a valued tool! Too bad I came along so late in the game.
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Great to have you. You're a big help to many folk.
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Hi...
The way you use to read a thread pretty much summarize the way I do it myself. I go a step further by searching within the said thread with some key words such as:
Problem, issue, brick, bricked, bootloop, etc...
I may sound paranoid, but I often browse the forum late at night and I could miss an important post due to being tired.
Cheers...
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You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
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You're right!
Performing a search can be an art form. Using the just right keyword to be successful takes some practice. It is so important to try many paths and exhaust all possibilities before posting your question in the threads. And then phrasing your question with all your information is important as well.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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Well, since my first modded android phone in 2008, i have never felt the need of asking anything. Most likely because all issues I encountered were already covered. Either by developers or people answering issues reported by previous users having the same problems. And maybe because I like to get things done by myself. (Which I achieve 1% of the time ).
I check XDA almost every day since. I must say that the "reading thing" may sound challenging for some people. You'll ask me why?
What follows is about novice users for the most part who don't know about/how to use the search function. Try reading a thread where 100 users come each and every day writing the same thing about the same problem over and over. And over again...
Trying to find the relevant posts in-between all this mess is sometimes quite discouraging.
I'm lucky to have affinity with English and of course it's a lot easier to read and find infos when I need them. Google translate became really nice with time. Yet i find myself using it, since English is not my native language and I learned it the hard way. Sometimes it's sad to see people not using such a powerful tool.
People, please use the search function! Take some time to read. If you don't get it, use an online translator. :good:
PS: Hopefully I didn't derail too much from the OP with this post... I'll delete it if needed.
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From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
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From the beginning, searching for the answer - did someone else have the same situation and fix it(?) - THIS always seemed easier and more gratifying than waiting for someone to answer me on a thread
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Yeah I know how you feel! At least for me having no real technical knowledge, I'm always glad to find the solutions by myself. Since it's around and just needs a search it's even faster than waiting for an answer. Also, since I only need to search when my phone is broken, I simply can't wait for someone to answer. Imagine no one replied during two days...
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Actually, I was flashing macks ROM, then CM on my note 2 and I didn't even KNOW XDA existed. I was so grateful when I found it. Especially when I got this phone. With Google ai, now it seems so much easier to do a quick search on the web
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This is the first place I found when I started to flash my HTC vision back in 2008. I started reading guides and development and was like: WTF these guys are cracking bootloader, carrier unlocking, etc... And all can be found so easily... :good: