My wife's S3 keeps getting the clipboard bug, so she finally agreed to let me root it. However I don't want to increment the flash counter or use Triangle-away. I notice the US-based S3 models have su and SuperSu injected to stock kernels/recoveries so those can be flashed directly from stock recovery, any such thing for the international i9300 (currently on 4.1.1)?
When I rooted my S2 a year ago I used heimdall (Linux) and didn't bother much about the counter, while my recent Galaxy Tab 7.7 root used the original built-in recovery and was dirt-easy (along with not modifying anything stock). Is there anyway to do similar on the S3?
Use triangle away after root to reset flash counter
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why do you care about the counter?
warranty? well, they'll deny you warranty if you're rooted anyway
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I'm looking for a way which won't require that.
Glebun said:
why do you care about the counter?
warranty? well, they'll deny you warranty if you're rooted anyway
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They can't deny warranty if they don't know. If the counter is clean I can just delete SuperSu.apk and su and there'll be no trace.
Regardless, this isn't primarily about warranty, as I've gotten my rooted (yellow triangle) S2 warrantied here before. My wife wants as low-risk an approach as possible, and I'm simply trying not to get into trouble
you can delete supersu later, sure, but you can also reset the counter later. what's the point of doing it now? the counter had nothing to do with safety.
and triangle away is the only way to reset the counter AFAIK, what's the problem with it?
INFO Warranty items to look for Apps requiring root >> Root or its tools >> Custom rom Counter above zero >> Rom status not official >> rom Odin status Custom .
Suggest you look in Development at the various root methods one without increasing rom counter it might be via Mobile Odin .
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you can delete supersu later, sure, but you can also reset the counter later. what's the point of doing it now? the counter had nothing to do with safety.
and triangle away is the only way to reset the counter AFAIK, what's the problem with it?
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As I said, I don't have a problem with it...
JJEgan said:
INFO Warranty items to look for Apps requiring root >> Root or its tools >> Custom rom Counter above zero >> Rom status not official >> rom Odin status Custom .
Suggest you look in Development at the various root methods one without increasing rom counter it might be via Mobile Odin .
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Getting mobile odin on requires root in the first place I think, so that's a bit of a catch 22.
You cannot reset the counter if you don't use TA.
what's risk are you talking about?
Yeah... what's wrong with just rooting, then TA?
If ever you need warranty, odin a stock rom and you're golden.
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Hi all.
My SGS2 needs to be sent in for repairs in the imminent future, and in preparation I unrooted my phone and flashed a Stock ICS build (my carrier is Optus, Australia). Before this I was running a few different GB roms. When I boot my phone I do not get the yellow triangle (I assume this is because I am running official Samsung firmware), but if I put the phone into download mode, it still shows the 8 custom flashes I did earlier.
My real question is will Chainfire's Triangle Away app remove the binary count even if the triangle isn't there?
And a better question would be, would having official firmware be enough to still claim warranty, or would I need to have both official firmware and a "0" custom flash count?
Thanks for any help!
I believe Samsung may throw a stink about the counter, even if you are on stock/official firmware. This counter would imply that you have voided your warranty previous to the current state of the phone and it's OS
To be safe I would use the Triangle away app
EDIT: Yes, the app does reset the flash counter. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
Its always safe to clear the counter before returning it for service. yes the triangle away app will clear the counter with/without triangle.
download it for free from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
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Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
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You are correct. Root the phone first, use the app, then unroot.
Thanks!
So it will still think it's Samsung official after that process?
You'll need a rooted ICS firmware already on your phone.
Check the Triangle Away forum to ensure its working with your firmware version.
Flash Triangle Away, this will remove Yellow Triangle and reset Custom Counter to 0.
Flash official unrooted firmware using Odin, this wont increase your Custom Counter as its official. Use a firmware thats specific to your region.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
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Thanks! This forum is full of amazing help.
So theoretically I could follow those steps then flash the stock ROM a thousand times and the flash counter would remain at 0?
If it makes you feel any better I went to Optus 3 weeks ago with a phone that wouldn't turn on with ICS for another region with root and they fixed it.
I think my USB jig cleared the counter to 0 though. I couldn't connect my phone to dl mode or anything
The app removes the triangle as well as the counter
Yeah I tried using the jig a while ago but I think I have the newer bootloader, so it didn't do anything, which was very disappointing.
I'd just hate to take it in then have them tell me to get bent because I rom'ed it.
Ok so let me know if theres a problem with my process.
I'm using ICS and the kernel is XWLP4.
There was no LP4 in Chainfires thread but I read that I could use the next closest one. So I should flash something like "CF-Root-SGS2_XW_O2U_LP3-v5.4-CWM5.zip" and then triangle away then use the Optus stock ICS?
UPDAT: I tried this method and it worked perfectly! Thanks so much to everyone who helped.
has worked like a charm for me everytime i put stock firmwares on my phone
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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Or just flash the old bootloader.
Hey guys
I have an SIII with a custom rom and kernel, yet I dont get the yellow triangle on the main booting screen?
I havent installed triangle away either, its strange because surely it should be there with any "non official" software.
Im not complaining, just curious, anyone shed any light?
Thanks
SGS3 does not show the warning triangle, but if you boot into download mode, you will see the binary flash count.
Also check: phone menu / settings / about device / status / device status >> modified ??
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This is an interesting question, and I'd been wondering this myself recently.
If the only "side effect" of flashing ROMs is an increasing counter on a screen that we hardly ever see, then unless we need to return our phones for warranty repairs, then we don't need to do anything?
Or does the counter have a maximum value after which the phone can't be flashed?
It only works with certain firnware it wont for example work with LF2..
The counter is only FYI and for warranty claims.
It won't affect your phone's behaviour and will go back to 0 (or 1) if the counter reaches the maximum value for (unsigned?) integer values.
You don't need to do anything. My guess is that the reason for most people attempting to reset the counter in S2 is that they were annoyed by the yellow triangle, so they got rid of it.
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The counter is only FYI and for warranty claims.
It won't affect your phone's behaviour and will go back to 0 (or 1) if the counter reaches the maximum value for (unsigned?) integer values.
You don't need to do anything. My guess is that the reason for most people attempting to reset the counter in S2 is that they were annoyed by the yellow triangle, so they got rid of it.
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Yes, reason was for triangle, but also to reset the counter. As most users of custom ROM flashing an insecure kernel did it via CWM recovery, the counter didn't increase. So if you need to return for warranty, just flash stock firmware with Odin. Done.
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So the only use for triangle away for the SIII is to reset the flash counter?
Bit confused by some of the replies
strongylad28 said:
So the only use for triangle away for the SIII is to reset the flash counter?
Bit confused by some of the replies
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Yes. This is because if the binary counter is >0 then your warranty will be void if you send it to Samsung. Reset it (and flash stock firmware) and nobody is none the wiser.
I have factory ROM, all I've done is flash CWM recovery via Odin, then rooted, and my custom binary count is (1) and my Device Status = Modified.
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I have factory ROM, all I've done is flash CWM recovery via Odin, then rooted, and my custom binary count is (1) and my Device Status = Modified.
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CWM triggered the increase.
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I have factory ROM, all I've done is flash CWM recovery via Odin, then rooted, and my custom binary count is (1) and my Device Status = Modified.
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CWM triggered the increase.
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Hi,
I also installed just CWM and SuperSU. As CreekDirt say, that set my Flash Count to 1, and Device Status to "Modified". So i used Triagle Away, and my Flash Count now shows as 0/not present/official, but the Device Status still show "Modified".
How can i fix the Device Status?
All you have to do is to wipe factory/data and cache then you will get the normal status on your phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEsBwtqY2xE cjheck this video too
Hi,
Thanks for replying. I don't want to unroot. I wanted to clear the "modified" status, but keeping CWM + Root. Is that possible?
Nope
Hi Diaze,
Thanks for replying. I also thought that such would not be possible, until i saw this in another forum (Local Brazil community) about that same matter.
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@pedrohp that must be isolated or related to your current ROM. I'm using WanamLite ICS XXALF2 V1.2 + SiyahKernel S3-v1.2.6 and after Triagle Away, my flash count shows as 0 and Device Status show as Unchanged
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What do you think?
so he rooted and then he installed a custom rom and the counter was still at 0 hard to believe but wait for some more answers
Diaze said:
so he rooted and then he installed a custom rom and the counter was still at 0 hard to believe but wait for some more answers
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No, he Rooted, installed custom an then used Triagle Away to reset the counter.
jonny68 said:
It only works with certain firnware it wont for example work with LF2..
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im on LF2 & it worked for me, counter 0 status normal
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im on LF2 & it worked for me, counter 0 status normal
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and without loosing root?
You don't loose root from using triangle away! Flashing LF2 lost root but then used CF–root
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Can someone explain to me what trip counter means? Where do I see if mine is tripped or not?
It is a counter on your phone that trips if you have installed custom firmware. Sorry to say I can't tell you where to look because I don't care about mine
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Trip Counter (Binary Download Counter)
1. Power off Phone
2. Hold Volume- (Down) and Home Key and Power at same time. Let phone boot. While holding all three keys.
3. Once in download mode press Volume+ (up)
Here you can see the counter.
Coustom Binary Download: No
Or
Coustom Binary Download: Yes (2 counts)
how ever many counts you have.
To exit hold power button for about 10 seconds. Then press again to power up phone. (Or Pull Battery)
No this will not trip counter.
is there any way to reset the counter?
dearbeloved said:
is there any way to reset the counter?
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not on the USA variants
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not on the USA variants
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Triangle away doesn't work on the us variants?
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Triangle away doesn't work on the us variants?
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As far as I understand, no it doesn't work and if you try on the USA one, it could potentially brick your phone. I didn't want to take the risk so didn't use it, but I think the author himself said USA Variants not supported.
I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
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I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
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It'll keep going up unless if it's your carrier's official rom, and to be honest, once you get "1" I don't think it matters if you have "2" or "48190238102931"
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I rooted using the general root before knowing anything about the flash counter (coming from HTC, dont know the Sammy ways yet). After i found out, I finished with the Root without tripping the flash counter tutorial and it says "1" when i boot into download mode.
Since i have done the tutorial will my counter always stay at "1" or if i flash another rom or mod will it start adding up?
Im just wanting to know if i need to be careful with going flash crazy or not.
thanks.
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I'm no expert, but from all the reading I've done I have concluded that flashing non-Samsung content via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing a rom via CWM will not.
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I'm no expert, but from all the reading I've done I have concluded that flashing non-Samsung content via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing a rom via CWM will not.
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I can confirm that.
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I can confirm that.
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not doubting you but wanted to be sure if true for all roms and i guess maybe even carrier models? Some of the sites I read said other wise. Also, you need to raise the counter at least "1" time to get Root Access though, no?
which means we still need a reset app like the international ver. have.
..and what is max I can do ? Or does it matter if I have 500 counts? What is it for? Dees it hurt me in any kind of way?
mine says "custom binary download: yes (1 count)
I installed 2 roms (same rom just updated version)
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not doubting you but wanted to be sure if true for all roms and i guess maybe even carrier models? Some of the sites I read said other wise. Also, you need to raise the counter at least "1" time to get Root Access though, no?
which means we still need a reset app like the international ver. have.
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Negative. I just rooted and installed CWM on my AT&T GS3 and my counter is still at 0. Flashing via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing through CWM doesn't. That being said, I'd imagine most if not all devs are going to make their roms flashable zips so we don't have to worry about the counter. I rooted via Odin but didn't trip the counter thanks to the devs who figured out a way to get around it. The thread is stickied in the AT&T dev forum.
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Negative. I just rooted and installed CWM on my AT&T GS3 and my counter is still at 0. Flashing via Odin is what trips the flash counter, flashing through CWM doesn't. That being said, I'd imagine most if not all devs are going to make their roms flashable zips so we don't have to worry about the counter. I rooted via Odin but didn't trip the counter thanks to the devs who figured out a way to get around it. The thread is stickied in the AT&T dev forum.
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well, i have tmo phone and my counter is currently at [1] so I need a reset somehow
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well, i have tmo phone and my counter is currently at [1] so I need a reset somehow
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I don't think there's a method out to do that yet, sit tight.
..and what is max I can do ? Or does it matter if I have 500 counts? What is it for? Does it hurt me in any kind of way?
there's no max, its just a way of voiding warranty
So we need to brick our phone good enough that they cant read the counter to get warranty replacement???
once the counter is [1] or higher,you already voided your warranty...there's really no max out or loop back to [0]
Hi. I'm planning to root my S3 and wanted to double check what I've gleaned from the forums before proceeding as I haven't found a set of comprehensive answers. (I'm on Australian LH1)
I'm rooting my phone purely to use titanium backup and certain root only feature of Tasker so I'll use CF-Root 6.4 which I understand will leave the kernel stock but install supersu, CWM and CWM manager. I won't be installing custom roms or kernels at all. To be on the safe side I'll do a nandroid backup straight after rooting.
My question is: can I then unroot and restore my phone back to full factory stock using ONLY the unroot option in supersu? (I prefer not to have to flash a stock rom from non samsung sources if I don't have to.) Also I believe the flash counter isn't tripped in this case so I won't need to reset it?
In unrooting via supersu does this automatically remove the 3 "apps" or do I need to do anything else before and after unrooting? (eg delete CWM beforehand ans supersu afterwards? I noticed some posts where this was a problem).
Many thanks!
AFAIK unroot option in supersu is temporary and not permanent one... Use triangle away to reset your counter and then You will have to flash your stock firmware via odin.. It will replace the rooted kernel and custom recovery..
You have been zooo==>ted
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In unrooting via supersu does this automatically remove the 3 "apps" or do I need to do anything else before and after unrooting? (eg delete CWM beforehand ans supersu afterwards? I noticed some posts where this was a problem).
Many thanks!
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Unrooting your S3 won't remove any root-only apps. But they won't be functional, as the can't get superuser permission to access root functionality. But flashing a Stock unrooted ROM that requires a Full Wipe will definitely remove your apps, and you have to rely on a non-root backup app to restore your apps and data.
You need to factory-reset your device anyway since the rom will show "modified" and thus your warranty void.
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You need to factory-reset your device anyway since the rom will show "modified" and thus your warranty void.
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Could some one please just clarify. Will a factory reset remove root and restore stock recovery? Thus a "clean" device except for binary counter? Thanks
ChampMEon said:
Could some please just clarify. Will a factory reset remove root and restore stock recovery? Thus a "clean" device except for binary counter? Thanks
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No.
The only way to go back to stock is to follow the return to stock guides in the General > Sticky roll-up thread. This is where all the important guides are so as per my signature, please always check there before asking questions.
There are 2 guides as stated. The second one goes into more detail about using triangle away.
Thank you and my apologies. Unfortunately my device doesn't support Triangle Away.
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Thank you and my apologies. Unfortunately my device doesn't support Triangle Away.
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Jeez. Just saw that now. Yes didn't realise. I was searching google and came accros the op and just commented. Btw I solved my problem and reset the Binary counter by flashing stock via odin and restoring factory settings. GS4 i9500.
So I'm happy. Thank you
I need to return an S3 for warranty repair. It was originally on the Three network, but has been unlocked, rooted and ROM'd a few times. Apart from flashing a stock ROM using ODIN, do I also need to reset the flash counter or do anything else to restore it to an acceptable state for warranty repair?
yes, you will have to reset the flash counter.
itm said:
I need to return an S3 for warranty repair. It was originally on the Three network, but has been unlocked, rooted and ROM'd a few times. Apart from flashing a stock ROM using ODIN, do I also need to reset the flash counter or do anything else to restore it to an acceptable state for warranty repair?
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With Triangle Away 1.90, you can find it in th CF-Root thread
As Triangle Away needs root (which I currently have - I'm running CheckROM v5), presumably the sequence of things that I need to do is:
1. Run Triangle Away
2. Flash Stock ROM
Is that right?
yes, but at the end add a factory reset
slaphead20 said:
yes, but at the end add a factory reset
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Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
itm said:
Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
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Not via Odin no .
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itm said:
Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
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lol...I must admit I asked myself that same question....but rest assured, no it won't, after you are done, go to settings/about device/status and at the bottom you should see unmodified
So flashing using Odin doesn't increase the flash counter? So is it only CWM zips that increase it? If so has this changed from the s2 as I'm sure CWM didn't increase flash counter
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odin raises the flash counter with unofficail roms. Only sammy roms dont increase the counter and i think flashing throw cmw doesnt raise the flash counter if it is stock rom. But odin is always recommended