Hey guys
I have an SIII with a custom rom and kernel, yet I dont get the yellow triangle on the main booting screen?
I havent installed triangle away either, its strange because surely it should be there with any "non official" software.
Im not complaining, just curious, anyone shed any light?
Thanks
SGS3 does not show the warning triangle, but if you boot into download mode, you will see the binary flash count.
Also check: phone menu / settings / about device / status / device status >> modified ??
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This is an interesting question, and I'd been wondering this myself recently.
If the only "side effect" of flashing ROMs is an increasing counter on a screen that we hardly ever see, then unless we need to return our phones for warranty repairs, then we don't need to do anything?
Or does the counter have a maximum value after which the phone can't be flashed?
It only works with certain firnware it wont for example work with LF2..
The counter is only FYI and for warranty claims.
It won't affect your phone's behaviour and will go back to 0 (or 1) if the counter reaches the maximum value for (unsigned?) integer values.
You don't need to do anything. My guess is that the reason for most people attempting to reset the counter in S2 is that they were annoyed by the yellow triangle, so they got rid of it.
d4fseeker said:
The counter is only FYI and for warranty claims.
It won't affect your phone's behaviour and will go back to 0 (or 1) if the counter reaches the maximum value for (unsigned?) integer values.
You don't need to do anything. My guess is that the reason for most people attempting to reset the counter in S2 is that they were annoyed by the yellow triangle, so they got rid of it.
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Yes, reason was for triangle, but also to reset the counter. As most users of custom ROM flashing an insecure kernel did it via CWM recovery, the counter didn't increase. So if you need to return for warranty, just flash stock firmware with Odin. Done.
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So the only use for triangle away for the SIII is to reset the flash counter?
Bit confused by some of the replies
strongylad28 said:
So the only use for triangle away for the SIII is to reset the flash counter?
Bit confused by some of the replies
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Yes. This is because if the binary counter is >0 then your warranty will be void if you send it to Samsung. Reset it (and flash stock firmware) and nobody is none the wiser.
I have factory ROM, all I've done is flash CWM recovery via Odin, then rooted, and my custom binary count is (1) and my Device Status = Modified.
fomofo said:
I have factory ROM, all I've done is flash CWM recovery via Odin, then rooted, and my custom binary count is (1) and my Device Status = Modified.
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CWM triggered the increase.
fomofo said:
I have factory ROM, all I've done is flash CWM recovery via Odin, then rooted, and my custom binary count is (1) and my Device Status = Modified.
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CWM triggered the increase.
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Hi,
I also installed just CWM and SuperSU. As CreekDirt say, that set my Flash Count to 1, and Device Status to "Modified". So i used Triagle Away, and my Flash Count now shows as 0/not present/official, but the Device Status still show "Modified".
How can i fix the Device Status?
All you have to do is to wipe factory/data and cache then you will get the normal status on your phone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEsBwtqY2xE cjheck this video too
Hi,
Thanks for replying. I don't want to unroot. I wanted to clear the "modified" status, but keeping CWM + Root. Is that possible?
Nope
Hi Diaze,
Thanks for replying. I also thought that such would not be possible, until i saw this in another forum (Local Brazil community) about that same matter.
Rafael said:
@pedrohp that must be isolated or related to your current ROM. I'm using WanamLite ICS XXALF2 V1.2 + SiyahKernel S3-v1.2.6 and after Triagle Away, my flash count shows as 0 and Device Status show as Unchanged
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What do you think?
so he rooted and then he installed a custom rom and the counter was still at 0 hard to believe but wait for some more answers
Diaze said:
so he rooted and then he installed a custom rom and the counter was still at 0 hard to believe but wait for some more answers
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No, he Rooted, installed custom an then used Triagle Away to reset the counter.
jonny68 said:
It only works with certain firnware it wont for example work with LF2..
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im on LF2 & it worked for me, counter 0 status normal
goodie said:
im on LF2 & it worked for me, counter 0 status normal
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and without loosing root?
You don't loose root from using triangle away! Flashing LF2 lost root but then used CF–root
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I have flashed an insecure kernel...
Rooted...
Then, flashed back the stock kernel...
Will the warranty stay if I just unroot now?
<Samsung Galaxy S2 - Indian firmware>
You will need to remove the custom binary counter in download mode with a jig off ebay.
mynamesteve said:
You will need to remove the custom binary counter in download mode with a jig off ebay.
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Thanks for the reply...
But I just flashed the kernel...
I heard flashing the whole firmware will only add to the binary counter...
Am I wrong?
Im not sure tbh.
Check in download mode if the counter reads 0 your good to go.
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Im not sure tbh.
Check in download mode if the counter reads 0 your good to go.
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Just now checked... It says 2... I thought I played safe
From what i know, everytime you flash a kernel (not sure about ROMs) the counter increases by one. You need a USB jig off ebay if you want to reset the binary counter and the yellow triangle. If not its as good as telling the world HAY GAIZ IM R00TED and lying your way through would be impossible here.
Hi all.
My SGS2 needs to be sent in for repairs in the imminent future, and in preparation I unrooted my phone and flashed a Stock ICS build (my carrier is Optus, Australia). Before this I was running a few different GB roms. When I boot my phone I do not get the yellow triangle (I assume this is because I am running official Samsung firmware), but if I put the phone into download mode, it still shows the 8 custom flashes I did earlier.
My real question is will Chainfire's Triangle Away app remove the binary count even if the triangle isn't there?
And a better question would be, would having official firmware be enough to still claim warranty, or would I need to have both official firmware and a "0" custom flash count?
Thanks for any help!
I believe Samsung may throw a stink about the counter, even if you are on stock/official firmware. This counter would imply that you have voided your warranty previous to the current state of the phone and it's OS
To be safe I would use the Triangle away app
EDIT: Yes, the app does reset the flash counter. See https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en
Its always safe to clear the counter before returning it for service. yes the triangle away app will clear the counter with/without triangle.
download it for free from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
sdardz said:
Thanks guys!
I tried to run the app but it's telling me I need Superuser access...
Does this mean I need to root the phone, use the triangle away app, then UNroot the phone?
Sorry if this is obvious... Not overly confident of my ability to keep the phone unbricked haha.
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You are correct. Root the phone first, use the app, then unroot.
Thanks!
So it will still think it's Samsung official after that process?
You'll need a rooted ICS firmware already on your phone.
Check the Triangle Away forum to ensure its working with your firmware version.
Flash Triangle Away, this will remove Yellow Triangle and reset Custom Counter to 0.
Flash official unrooted firmware using Odin, this wont increase your Custom Counter as its official. Use a firmware thats specific to your region.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
Job done.
Also check my sigi for links
Thanks! This forum is full of amazing help.
So theoretically I could follow those steps then flash the stock ROM a thousand times and the flash counter would remain at 0?
If it makes you feel any better I went to Optus 3 weeks ago with a phone that wouldn't turn on with ICS for another region with root and they fixed it.
I think my USB jig cleared the counter to 0 though. I couldn't connect my phone to dl mode or anything
The app removes the triangle as well as the counter
Yeah I tried using the jig a while ago but I think I have the newer bootloader, so it didn't do anything, which was very disappointing.
I'd just hate to take it in then have them tell me to get bent because I rom'ed it.
Ok so let me know if theres a problem with my process.
I'm using ICS and the kernel is XWLP4.
There was no LP4 in Chainfires thread but I read that I could use the next closest one. So I should flash something like "CF-Root-SGS2_XW_O2U_LP3-v5.4-CWM5.zip" and then triangle away then use the Optus stock ICS?
UPDAT: I tried this method and it worked perfectly! Thanks so much to everyone who helped.
has worked like a charm for me everytime i put stock firmwares on my phone
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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d3l1 said:
Safest way is to flash a really old firmware and thus flashing the old bootloader. Now reset the counter with an usb jig. Done.
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Or just flash the old bootloader.
I need to return an S3 for warranty repair. It was originally on the Three network, but has been unlocked, rooted and ROM'd a few times. Apart from flashing a stock ROM using ODIN, do I also need to reset the flash counter or do anything else to restore it to an acceptable state for warranty repair?
yes, you will have to reset the flash counter.
itm said:
I need to return an S3 for warranty repair. It was originally on the Three network, but has been unlocked, rooted and ROM'd a few times. Apart from flashing a stock ROM using ODIN, do I also need to reset the flash counter or do anything else to restore it to an acceptable state for warranty repair?
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With Triangle Away 1.90, you can find it in th CF-Root thread
As Triangle Away needs root (which I currently have - I'm running CheckROM v5), presumably the sequence of things that I need to do is:
1. Run Triangle Away
2. Flash Stock ROM
Is that right?
yes, but at the end add a factory reset
slaphead20 said:
yes, but at the end add a factory reset
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Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
itm said:
Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
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Not via Odin no .
jje
itm said:
Thanks. Just a thought - will flashing the stock ROM increase the flash counter (and hence defeat the objective!)??
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lol...I must admit I asked myself that same question....but rest assured, no it won't, after you are done, go to settings/about device/status and at the bottom you should see unmodified
So flashing using Odin doesn't increase the flash counter? So is it only CWM zips that increase it? If so has this changed from the s2 as I'm sure CWM didn't increase flash counter
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odin raises the flash counter with unofficail roms. Only sammy roms dont increase the counter and i think flashing throw cmw doesnt raise the flash counter if it is stock rom. But odin is always recommended
My wife's S3 keeps getting the clipboard bug, so she finally agreed to let me root it. However I don't want to increment the flash counter or use Triangle-away. I notice the US-based S3 models have su and SuperSu injected to stock kernels/recoveries so those can be flashed directly from stock recovery, any such thing for the international i9300 (currently on 4.1.1)?
When I rooted my S2 a year ago I used heimdall (Linux) and didn't bother much about the counter, while my recent Galaxy Tab 7.7 root used the original built-in recovery and was dirt-easy (along with not modifying anything stock). Is there anyway to do similar on the S3?
Use triangle away after root to reset flash counter
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why do you care about the counter?
warranty? well, they'll deny you warranty if you're rooted anyway
freddy1991 said:
Use triangle away after root to reset flash counter
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I'm looking for a way which won't require that.
Glebun said:
why do you care about the counter?
warranty? well, they'll deny you warranty if you're rooted anyway
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They can't deny warranty if they don't know. If the counter is clean I can just delete SuperSu.apk and su and there'll be no trace.
Regardless, this isn't primarily about warranty, as I've gotten my rooted (yellow triangle) S2 warrantied here before. My wife wants as low-risk an approach as possible, and I'm simply trying not to get into trouble
you can delete supersu later, sure, but you can also reset the counter later. what's the point of doing it now? the counter had nothing to do with safety.
and triangle away is the only way to reset the counter AFAIK, what's the problem with it?
INFO Warranty items to look for Apps requiring root >> Root or its tools >> Custom rom Counter above zero >> Rom status not official >> rom Odin status Custom .
Suggest you look in Development at the various root methods one without increasing rom counter it might be via Mobile Odin .
jje
Glebun said:
you can delete supersu later, sure, but you can also reset the counter later. what's the point of doing it now? the counter had nothing to do with safety.
and triangle away is the only way to reset the counter AFAIK, what's the problem with it?
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As I said, I don't have a problem with it...
JJEgan said:
INFO Warranty items to look for Apps requiring root >> Root or its tools >> Custom rom Counter above zero >> Rom status not official >> rom Odin status Custom .
Suggest you look in Development at the various root methods one without increasing rom counter it might be via Mobile Odin .
jje
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Getting mobile odin on requires root in the first place I think, so that's a bit of a catch 22.
You cannot reset the counter if you don't use TA.
what's risk are you talking about?
Yeah... what's wrong with just rooting, then TA?
If ever you need warranty, odin a stock rom and you're golden.
Hi All,I'd be greatful if someone can advise me. My phones counter has changed to 1 annoyed because i wasn't on custom firmware or rooted at the time, i just reset my normal official firmware and the counter went up to 1. i need to change it back to 0 but it seems to be much harder than previous when ive done this.I rooted the s3 and have a custom firware on it just so i could install triangle away and reset the counter but the counter wont go below 1 anymore.i have tried to pull the battery just before the samsung logo s3 but its not working this time. I understand a stock recovery/bootloader would enable the counter to set to 0 without having to try and pull the battery. I am currently running team win recovery project 2.3.3.0.Anyone know where i get the stock from which I can run while rooted I assume or any other helpful tips?CheersFei
Faqs and Guides free .
Read the return to stock for warranty post.
jje
fatfei said:
Hi All,I'd be greatful if someone can advise me. My phones counter has changed to 1 annoyed because i wasn't on custom firmware or rooted at the time, i just reset my normal official firmware and the counter went up to 1. i need to change it back to 0 but it seems to be much harder than previous when ive done this.I rooted the s3 and have a custom firware on it just so i could install triangle away and reset the counter but the counter wont go below 1 anymore.i have tried to pull the battery just before the samsung logo s3 but its not working this time. I understand a stock recovery/bootloader would enable the counter to set to 0 without having to try and pull the battery. I am currently running team win recovery project 2.3.3.0.Anyone know where i get the stock from which I can run while rooted I assume or any other helpful tips?CheersFei
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What state do you want the phone to be in? Do you want to continue running modified with counter of 0, or do you want to return to full stock with counter of 0?
There are several guides here on exactly how to do this, search and read for the full info.
To my knowledge you will have to downgrade your bootloader to the ICS version before factory reset, run triangle away then immediately flash stock recovery and ROM from Odin.
I've not done the above myself, so I'd recommend you read up first.
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What state do you want the phone to be in? Do you want to continue running modified with counter of 0, or do you want to return to full stock with counter of 0?
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I want to return to stock because it needs to go to the shop. But the custom bootloader isnt letting the counter turn to 0 I read this is because its not stock. I tried pulling the battery before samsung logo after triangle reboots after resetting the counter but with this firmware its just not going back to zero. I understand I cant put stock firmware on until the counter is at zero because I won't be able to be rooted to use triangle.
Id just like to know what stock bootloader I should use to reset the counter. Then I can return to stock.
Thank you for replying
boomboomer said:
There are several guides here on exactly how to do this, search and read for the full info.
To my knowledge you will have to downgrade your bootloader to the ICS version before factory reset, run triangle away then immediately flash stock recovery and ROM from Odin.
I've not done the above myself, so I'd recommend you read up first.
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Thanks that's what I thought but dont know where I get the bootloader from
fatfei said:
Thanks that's what I thought but dont know where I get the bootloader from
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There are 2 methods.
1) Reset with triangle away and interupt reboot (pull battery immediately after Triangle away). This may take several attempts to get right. Then you boot into download mode. If binary counter is "0" (regardless of modified status = custom) then flash via odin
2) Flash an old bootloader (4.1.1) which you can get from any 4.1.1 official ROM on sammobile.com. There is a link to an ics bootloader in my SDS thread at the very bottom of the post too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091045
rootSU said:
There are 2 methods.
1) Reset with triangle away and interupt reboot (pull battery immediately after Triangle away). This may take several attempts to get right. Then you boot into download mode. If binary counter is "0" (regardless of modified status = custom) then flash via odin
2) Flash an old bootloader (4.1.1) which you can get from any 4.1.1 official ROM on sammobile.com. There is a link to an ics bootloader in my SDS thread at the very bottom of the post too
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091045
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installed the other cfw and managed to reset the counter to 0 but this is my problem having checked a few times the counter went back up to 1 . it did this when i was in stock yesterday hence why i have had to do all this. Why is it counting up on its own?
fatfei said:
installed the other cfw and managed to reset the counter to 0 but this is my problem having checked a few times the counter went back up to 1 . it did this when i was in stock yesterday hence why i have had to do all this. Why is it counting up on its own?
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Bootloaders since 4.1.2 and some 4.1.1 count the binary at every boot, which is why you must flash an ICS bootloader.
You also need to ensure you have stock kernel, stock recovery.
IMHO the best process would be:
Flash full stock with ODIN now.
Root with CF-AUTO root (must be AUTO) as this doesnt modify kernel or recovery
Then you should be able to triangle away and not go back to 1 on reboot.n ***If still not reset, flash ICS bootloader, then try triangle away again.
Flash stock again
rootSU said:
Bootloaders since 4.1.2 and some 4.1.1 count the binary at every boot, which is why you must flash an ICS bootloader.
You also need to ensure you have stock kernel, stock recovery.
IMHO the best process would be:
Flash full stock with ODIN now.
Root with CF-AUTO root (must be AUTO) as this doesnt modify kernel or recovery
Then you should be able to triangle away and not go back to 1 on reboot.n ***If still not reset, flash ICS bootloader, then try triangle away again.
Flash stock again
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I flashed with CF-Auto-Root-m0-m0xx-gti9300.tar.md5 and run triangle but everytime a remove battery successfully and restart it immediately goesinto boot loader again where i have to reboot if i want to load the rom at which point the exclamation comes back
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I flashed with CF-Auto-Root-m0-m0xx-gti9300.tar.md5 and run triangle but everytime a remove battery successfully and restart it immediately goesinto boot loader again where i have to reboot if i want to load the rom at which point the exclamation comes back
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From a completely STOCK, unrooted ROM?
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From a completely STOCK, unrooted ROM?
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Sorry i am getting so confused with firmwares, roms and bootloaders now ive got totally confused. I'll read up on everything again to try and get an understand because i don't want to waste your time and ask something silly. As it stands this is where i am. i have installed cf auto root, used triangle and pulled battery and immediatly gone into download mode where the counter is saying no. Which is good. I was now intending to install the official rom from sammy for uk
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Sorry i am getting so confused with firmwares, roms and bootloaders now ive got totally confused. I'll read up on everything again to try and get an understand because i don't want to waste your time and ask something silly. As it stands this is where i am. i have installed cf auto root, used triangle and pulled battery and immediatly gone into download mode where the counter is saying no. Which is good. I was now intending to install the official rom from sammy for uk
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Yeah have a look on teh last page. I think to give us a clean starting point, you should flash back to stock first, then CF auto root...
rootSU said:
Yeah have a look on teh last page. I think to give us a clean starting point, you should flash back to stock first, then CF auto root...
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yeah agrred. Thanks mate
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yeah agrred. Thanks mate
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Okay i re-installed the stock rom from the download mode i was already on then hard reset after from bootloader, the red exclamation mark has gone, the count says no still and the device status in settings is saying normal. so i assume this is fit to go back to the shop. I dont know why the count went up on its own in the first place, my phone just freaked out and started to reboot randomly and caused the count to go to 1 which is really annoying because i would have been blamed for something i didnt do.
Thank you so much for the assistance
fatfei said:
Okay i re-installed the stock rom from the download mode i was already on then hard reset after from bootloader, the red exclamation mark has gone, the count says no still and the device status in settings is saying normal. so i assume this is fit to go back to the shop. I dont know why the count went up on its own in the first place, my phone just freaked out and started to reboot randomly and caused the count to go to 1 which is really annoying because i would have been blamed for something i didnt do.
Thank you so much for the assistance
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no worries.