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How are people buying new phones from Tmo when they are still on contract? I've seen users posting about how they were on contract and just bought the G2x. Im tired of my vibrant as of late and I want to know how are people getting early upgrades. Is tmobile just letting people upgrade early? Thanks.
They might be just selling their vibrants and buying them outright. When I got my vibrant on launchday I had to call tmobile and start a new 2 year contract to get the discount.
We're comin from a pure power source.
Most people I think just buy the phone at full price. Because while in contract you are able to buy any phone you want, because the contract isnt for the phone its self but for the service.
So, in theory you could buy the newest phone from Tmobile every month and not break your contract.
Note: Only do the theory above if you are rich and have nothing better to do with your money.
buying any upgrade usually means you will end up with a different contract no matter what they say, also upgrading usually is not a good, better to just but the phone it is always cheaper in the long run
i bought my vibrant at full price. i will buy my next phone full price. i'm on a no contract plan (which is cheaper than the contract plans), and haven't had a contract with tmob for the last 3 or 4 years. as it stands right now, though, i'm not looking to replace the vibrant for probably 6 months or so. the current phones coming out don't really have any large technological jumps or must have features so far.
what's the price difference between a contract and a non-contract?
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I would say, this is very hard to find a better phone than samsung vibrant. Because this phone on 2nd hand market is very frisky. You can get it very low price. The specs is not bad. I feel good with the process speed. I bought htc desire hd after samsung vibrant, but I sold it and buy vibrant back.
are we talking plan to no plan or phone with contract price to phone with out?
phone with out contract price is substantially higher circa 500 while on contract as low as 100 for a good phone. however even if you were to get the 500 dollar phone for free you would still pay more over the course of teh contract than the person off contract who purchased the phone at face value.
I used some tax return skrilla to get away from my Vibrant - G2x in da house!
-bZj
I'm surprised a lot of you went to G2x. Considering LG's history of cra handsets, and an AOSP stock ROM withOUT the backing of google. This, to me, seems like a good way to find yourself with a phone that has a lot of potential, but not a lot available in the modification department (though being with vibrant for awhile, I can see why some of you may not notice a difference) I'm holding out for a dual core HTC.
You can call customer service and ask them if you can have an upgrade. They always let me. They are more concerned with keeping you on their contacts. I sold my vibrant for the same price I bought my g2x. 260 with tax.
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what's the price difference between a contract and a non-contract?
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it looks like, for my plan, it's $30/month cheaper for my two lines.
Buying full price is the way to go
As has been stated before. Buying a phone full-price with T-Mobile is the only way to go.
Now, I myself got a 2-year contract when I bought my Vibrant, but immediately started regretting it. I found out that the required internet service was $35/month (I negotiated them down to $25/month on account of I Just bought my wife a Motorola Cliq the month before, and I refused to pay an additional $10/month for no reason).
The fact is, if I had added 3g to my plan before buying a syndicated phone, it would have cost only $10/month.
In addition to this, any time you "upgrade" your phone with a new contract, they Upgrade your contract.For this reason, now and in the future, I will never again buy a contract phone so that my contract stays at the nice, comfortable place it is at.
I love T-mobile, and hope beyond all hope that this merger with AT&T stays as copacetic as they claim it will be
-Tex.
Yup, I was looking at getting a sidekick for my girl, but it was gonna take her from 66/mo off contract to around 95ish to upgrade.
I'm waiting for the sgs2, bring on the samoled!
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There's a relatively good chance I'll just sell my vibrant and buy a gs2 when it comes out, depending on how crazy expensive it might be.
This question is for anyone on the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan) with T-Mobile. I gave T-Mobile a call today and a representative told me that I can upgrade my phone with a 2 year contract even though I'm on the Even more Plus plan. I think they're doing this because T-Mobile took away the non-contract plans. If you look on the T-Mobile website, you can no longer sign up for the Even More Plus plan if you're a new customer, you have to pay the contract plan prices which are higher.
My question is, has anyone tried upgrading their phone with the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan)?
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This question is for anyone on the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan) with T-Mobile. I gave T-Mobile a call today and a representative told me that I can upgrade my phone with a 2 year contract even though I'm on the Even more Plus plan. I think they're doing this because T-Mobile took away the non-contract plans. If you look on the T-Mobile website, you can no longer sign up for the Even More Plus plan if you're a new customer, you have to pay the contract plan prices which are higher.
My question is, has anyone tried upgrading their phone with the Even More Plus plan (non-contract plan)?
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AFAIK, T-Mobile removed the EM+ plan option from the website months ago to prevent customer confusion (or some crap reason like that). New customers can still get onto EM+ over the phone and by going into the T-Mobile shops.
Also, I do not think you can get upgrades while on EM+ since it requires you to actually buy a phone unsubsidized (full price). The only way I could explain why the rep would've told you that would be if they though you were swapping from EM+ to EM. If you were on the normal EM plan, then you should be able to get upgrades and discounts on newer phones after a certain amount of time.
If you use an upgrade/discount to purchase a new phone you will *always* be put back under a 2 year contract rate plan. With EM+ you *always* pay full price for the device (and EM+ plans have not been taken away... yet.)
The T-Mobile representative was ready to give me an upgrade, she was on my account reading my upgrade prices. She said I can't upgrade online because of my plan, but she said I can upgrade through the phone or at a store. It didn't require me to switch to a contract plan. When I migrated to non-contract plan, they said I can't switch back if I wanted to. Not sure about this yet so I will go to a store today to confirm.
You can still upgrade but you have to pay the full price for the device, and all theyre doing is swapping your sim, they took away upgrades on EM+ in november when they took my $300.00 in upgrade credit back
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You can still upgrade but you have to pay the full price for the device, and all theyre doing is swapping your sim, they took away upgrades on EM+ in november when they took my $300.00 in upgrade credit back
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I'm on the EM+ plan, and she said my price for the g2x and mytouch is only $217. She was on my account looking at the prices. I know the full price of the g2x is $499, not $217.
Pretty sure non contract plans are still available might have to go to the store and talk to a rep
and if not you cant call customer server and ask for android preferred internet for $20 doesn't matter how long you have had plan
Sound like she was giving you the subsidized price you would pay out of pocket. The rest will be on your bill split between 19 months.
That comes out to roughly $15 per month extra on your bill. Sounds about right.
Hi everyone,
I bought the Note before 5 days from AT&T but I have question need their answers.
Q1/ If I get the phone without contract, will the internet work or not? (3G or 4G or both?)
Q2/ If yes, can I break my contract and take back some of my money? (the price with contract is $800 and without contract is $600 or $700, so I may get back $100-$200)
Q/ How much the warranty for 1 year?
Thank you
What?
Q1: if you mean you buy it, and you're not on AT&T at all, of coarse mobile data won't work...you won't have a service contract.... If you man just buying it out right, as am early upgrade while you're on AT&T, then yes it'll work. You'd most likely need to get an lte Sim card.
The price on contract, which means upgrading your phone and signing for a new contact, or a brand new customer is 300... Off contract, meaning no discount at all from AT&T is 700.
No you can't cancel your contract and return the phone for more than you paid for it. And in fact you will be charged an early termination fee for canceling the contact. So you'd lose money.
AT&T has been around the block more than a couple times.... You really think you could pull one over on them so easily?
Warranty is from Samsung, not AT&T and is included with the purchase of the device.
The reason people buy off contract is to not be locked into a provider. You can still have mobile data plan set up and pay on it each month, you're just not forced to pay them for 2 years and can cancel any time you wish.
If you don't have a mobile data plan through them your mobile data will not work.
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Hi everyone,
I bought the Note before 5 days from AT&T but I have question need their answers.
Q1/ If I get the phone without contract, will the internet work or not? (3G or 4G or both?)
Q2/ If yes, can I break my contract and take back some of my money? (the price with contract is $800 and without contract is $600 or $700, so I may get back $100-$200)
Q/ How much the warranty for 1 year?
Thank you
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If you've had the phone longer than 3 days cannot break the contact without paying the $250-350 fee it costs to do so.
If you've had it less than 3 days, you can break the contract without charge but you will still have to pay the balance of the phone (if you paid the reduced price of $300)
If you're not on contract, you can still use AT&T 4G service.
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Thanks guys for answering my questions
my phone is in contract with them, and one of my friends told me go break your contract and get like $100 from them cuz the phone without contract is about $700 and with contract is $800, so if I break the contract they will give me back $100!!
Is that right?
and for the warranty, the seller told me to buy a warranty but I told him I don't need it, and there were no warranty in the bx by Samsung! How can I get a warranty?
I guess thats all what i have
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If you've had the phone longer than 3 days cannot break the contact without paying the $250-350 fee it costs to do so.
If you've had it less than 3 days, you can break the contract without charge but you will still have to pay the balance of the phone (if you paid the reduced price of $300)
If you're not on contract, you can still use AT&T 4G service.
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Incorrect. It is 30 days to break the contract without the $325 termination fee. The 3 days you may be thinking about is to not get charged the activation/upgrade fee
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Att.com shows pricing as 299.99 on contract, 649.99 off contract.
I decided to by one off contract for 475 shipped on eBay. I'm not up for early renewal until July and couldn't wait. I didn't want to "waste" my upgrade on a near 6 month old phone by that time.
You will not make any money off ATT, so don't try.
Without contract means no service unless you have existing service.
Btw, can I walk into the att store and just request an LTE sim? My current sim is only H+ enabled
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Btw, can I walk into the att store and just request an LTE sim? My current sim is only H+ enabled
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Yes, and you can keep the unlimited plan if you have it.
yesterday I canceled my contract and my phone (everything)
they gave me the phone and the screen protector price immediately to my depit card and they told me I'll recieve the deposit cost in my mail withen 4-6 weeks ! :/
Now I'm thinking between buying the same phone ($660 with 2 years warranty from SquareTradeus) or waiting for new phone!!
What do you think?!
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Yes, and you can keep the unlimited plan if you have it.
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As usual, its always a nightmare dealing with their customer service. It took nearly 45 minutes of the ATT store manager being on the phone with them...and they still couldn't change my account to LTE unlimited. They ended up hanging up and stating they would work on it and call me back...which was true.
But i truly wish i could blow up ATT customer service.
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erick161, as much as I agree with you, you might want to redact that last statement. threats online are taken even more seriously than in person from my experience.
OP, I think what you friend was trying to tell you is that you buy the phone on contract, you cancel the service and pay the termination fee and the cost of the phone and ETF was less than buying the phone at full price. Which was true in the beginning, but now the phone is cheaper and not really going to save/make you money.
If you already have AT&T then I'd say get the phone on contract or not. for the first time in almost 10 years I'm locked into a contract again, not too worried about it because i haven't left AT&T yet and don't plan to. if you aren't an AT&T customer, there's a company that resells AT&T network service for $45 a month unlimited everything, just no 4G or LTE. You could buy the phone and jump on that service.
Lastly if you didn't buy the phone for the size, the HTC One is coming out in the next few months, you might want to check that out, though if I recall for AT&T they're getting rid of the quad core because it isn't compatible with LTE, but that's what i recall and 100% ingrained in truth.
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You say the price with contract is $800. It's not, it's $300. So if you break contract, you will pay more for a phone, not less, but you can still get data if you are already with AT&T. Just go in, and add the phone to your line, and have them upgrade the sim. They charge like $36 for that now.
a.2mjed.a said:
Hi everyone,
I bought the Note before 5 days from AT&T but I have question need their answers.
Q1/ If I get the phone without contract, will the internet work or not? (3G or 4G or both?)
Q2/ If yes, can I break my contract and take back some of my money? (the price with contract is $800 and without contract is $600 or $700, so I may get back $100-$200)
Q/ How much the warranty for 1 year?
Thank you
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What model of Note is this? Sounds like one of the international ones to me. the AT&T one would not come with a HSPA+ only SIM I believe. If it is not an i717, then it probably has the Xenos(sp?) chipset, and not the Qualcomm one, and is NOT an LTE phone. Also, if it is an LTE phone, you may, or may not be in an area with LTE service.
erick161 said:
Att.com shows pricing as 299.99 on contract, 649.99 off contract.
I decided to by one off contract for 475 shipped on eBay. I'm not up for early renewal until July and couldn't wait. I didn't want to "waste" my upgrade on a near 6 month old phone by that time.
You will not make any money off ATT, so don't try.
Without contract means no service unless you have existing service.
Btw, can I walk into the att store and just request an LTE sim? My current sim is only H+ enabled
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Has anyone else noticed that AT&T has this phone listed as $440, if purchased off contract, but if you purchase via AT&T Next, it can be had for $340 and you get to pay over 20 months with no interest?
Seems like anyone who is paying for AT&T insurance, with its $200 deductible, should cancel immediately.
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Has anyone else noticed that AT&T has this phone listed as $440, if purchased off contract, but if you purchase via AT&T Next, it can be had for $340 and you get to pay over 20 months with no interest?
Seems like anyone who is paying for AT&T insurance, with its $200 deductible, should cancel immediately.
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Read this article http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff . But to break it down AT&T next just rips you off. You are better off paying full price for the phone. This is what I do, I take a subsidized phone one year than the next year buy off contract. In the end if you do the math it is more economical to use this approach. You should remember when you sign an AT&T contract they assume that you bought a premium smart phone and the subsidy is already built into your account. If you do not upgrade your phone every two years your paying extra, hence why some people like the t-mobile model because it separates the phone cost from the bill. This makes their business practices more transparent, not necessarily better.
neuroh said:
Read this article http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff . But to break it down AT&T next just rips you off. You are better off paying full price for the phone. This is what I do, I take a subsidized phone one year than the next year buy off contract. In the end if you do the math it is more economical to use this approach. You should remember when you sign an AT&T contract they assume that you bought a premium smart phone and the subsidy is already built into your account. If you do not upgrade your phone every two years your paying extra, hence why some people like the t-mobile model because it separates the phone cost from the bill. This makes their business practices more transparent, not necessarily better.
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Don't even need to read that article to know that AT&T Next is a rip off, for almost every phone offered. The $100 gap in pricing between list price and making the 20 payments (or you can just pay $340 up front), makes the LGOG a different issue all together. If you are paying $10/mth for AT&T insurance, which has a $200 deductible, at $14 months, you hit break even, between buying a new LGOG or getting a refurb replacement under the warranty plan. In this one case, it would be a financially sound idea, to simply plan to buy the LGOG for $340, instead of doing the warranty (if you damage your phone). Note that the price makes it cheaper than the 16GB N4, also (and you get LTE and a removable/upgrade able simcard).
I totally agree att next is a rip off
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I totally agree att next is a rip off
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It's worse than I anticipated. I checked with and AT&T rep (was considering buying a new phone for my daughter) and was told that I couldn't buy via AT&T Next because I didn't have an available upgrade. I asked about contract renewal and was told that each purchase via the plan required a renewed 2 yr agreement. No where in the on line documentation does it state that you must have an available upgrade, for the initial purchase and you must renew your 2 yr commitment, for each upgrade (it's clearly stated in the regular upgrade info). The rep just said "it's in there somewhere".
Actually ditched my LG OG today and signed up for AT&T Next (opened a line on my family plan). Picked up the HTC One, and couldn't be happier. Currently converting it to the Google Play Dev. Edition (international).
Can't wait to have a real solid stable Nexus-equivalent ROM on a beautiful piece of hardware. I was just beginning to love the OG too, but I was forced to stay with stock ROM due to how many phone calls (30+) I receive/make daily for work. The lurking modem issues on ROM's other than stock just made it super impractical.
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Actually ditched my LG OG today and signed up for AT&T Next (opened a line on my family plan). Picked up the HTC One, and couldn't be happier. Currently converting it to the Google Play Dev. Edition (international).
Can't wait to have a real solid stable Nexus-equivalent ROM on a beautiful piece of hardware. I was just beginning to love the OG too, but I was forced to stay with stock ROM due to how many phone calls (30+) I receive/make daily for work. The lurking modem issues on ROM's other than stock just made it super impractical.
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Most realistic post yet. I love ROMs too but i keep going back to stock as well, nothing like not having to worry about your phone randomly rebooting.
Due for an upgrade. Looking at the G2 and Note 3 when my local ATT store has it stocked! ampeeeddd
In March, I did. It's in my new contract. My old Unlimited Data/email plan from 2007....im definitely NOT complaining. Though, im still paying big bucks for VZW. Sucks when they are the only ones that work well in your area.
I should add that I bought this GS4 on VZ's website. $137 after taxes and other crap with 2 yr contract.
Moved from Sprint to VZW. Back in 2011 VZW had better signal here. 3 years later, Sprint has the better towers, unlocked phones and unlimited data. Def regret that transition.
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Got my vzw galaxy s4 from best buy(phone, case, and screen protector) for $85. I also got to keep my unlimited data plan. The asshole at vzw lied and told me that best buy could only offer the 2gb.
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I upgraded...I used the available upgrade on my unlimited line, transferred the upgrade to my wife's 2GB line, bought the S4 on upgrade, then had it activated on my unlimited line. She still has her upgrade coming up too.
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In March, I did. It's in my new contract. My old Unlimited Data/email plan from 2007....im definitely NOT complaining. Though, im still paying big bucks for VZW. Sucks when they are the only ones that work well in your area.
I should add that I bought this GS4 on VZ's website. $137 after taxes and other crap with 2 yr contract.
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You did this by transferring an available upgrade to another line (that does not have Unlimited Data), then upgrading that line? Or how?
I upgraded two of my lines to the s4 and kept unlimited on both of them. I used two dumb phone upgrades, once the phones arrived I activated them, swapped my SIM cards and called to pull data off those lines. Was really easy.
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You did this by transferring an available upgrade to another line (that does not have Unlimited Data), then upgrading that line? Or how?
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Only have one line. Always only one line. I am familiar with the trick of using a second line to keep the unlimited, but I never did that. All I did was go to the website, login... click upgrade... add GS4 to cart ...pay for..confirm..finish.
That was actually my second attempt to buy the GS4. I had went online to buy it a week before but backed out in the 2nd step. It was where a popup would come on screen and force you to change your data plan to a tiered data plan because it said my current unlimited data plan could no longer be used. ....Well..the 2nd time I went to buy it, that screen never came up. Idk man. I was like.....whistle whistle..just waiting for it. Im glad it didnt because that More Everything plan is a joke. I cant believe they'd charge THAT much for just 2GB..WTF how they call that MORE?
Thanks, Cops. That is good to know, Very interesting.
I got my GS4 last May and I did it using the transfer-an-upgrade trick, but it was a PITA because I didn't actually have a second line at the time (and still don't, but that's another story). Anyway, I'll probably be sticking with my GS4 until my current contract is up - so, another ryear. But, it's good to know a new trick to try the next time I want to upgrade.
Yeah, it has to be a glitch in the VZW website. I was using Firefox so maybe its an issue with how FF handled the script on the page?
Wish I had better choices here where I live. I researched....only AT&T and T-mobile..AT&T is just as bad as VZW in crappy plan pricing. TMO has crappy coverage here as well as Sprint. I hate having very limited choices.
Edge plan
THE-COPS said:
In March, I did. It's in my new contract. My old Unlimited Data/email plan from 2007....im definitely NOT complaining. Though, im still paying big bucks for VZW. Sucks when they are the only ones that work well in your area.
I should add that I bought this GS4 on VZ's website. $137 after taxes and other crap with 2 yr contract.
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I went with the edge plan with 2 lines and 12 GB data for $172. Sacrificed unlimited data for every year upgrade.
Gahar said:
I went with the edge plan with 2 lines and 12 GB data for $172. Sacrificed unlimited data for every year upgrade.
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damn dude you went from the very best value plan to the very worst value plan
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damn dude you went from the very best value plan to the very worst value plan
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My bill was around $185 with unlimited data and1400 minutes but total data usage for both phones were around 5 GB. So i went with edge plan and now no need to wait two years for upgrade. $10 saved is $10 gas for my car. Lol
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My bill was around $185 with unlimited data and1400 minutes but total data usage for both phones were around 5 GB. So i went with edge plan and now no need to wait two years for upgrade. $10 saved is $10 gas for my car. Lol
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Well if you simply don't use a lot of data i guess you save money dropping the unlimited data. Edge is the worst plan though. You have to pay half of the phone's full retail value before you can upgrade, then you trade the device in. So an S5 that would normally cost you $200 will now cost you $350. Say you bought the S4 for $200 on an upgrade last year, you could've sold it for ~$400 right before the S5 dropped. You could spend another $300 and get the S5 so still cheaper than Edge. Then next year, when you have another upgrade, you could sell the S5 for say the same $400 and spend the usual $200 for a phone on an upgrade. Then you're up $200 as well as having a new phone.
So, over two years, just by doing some simple work and selling your old phone yourself, you'll spend a total of ~$300 for three new phones. Getting three new phones on edge over two years will cost you about $1,050.
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Well if you simply don't use a lot of data i guess you save money dropping the unlimited data. Edge is the worst plan though. You have to pay half of the phone's full retail value before you can upgrade, then you trade the device in. So an S5 that would normally cost you $200 will now cost you $350. Say you bought the S4 for $200 on an upgrade last year, you could've sold it for ~$400 right before the S5 dropped. You could spend another $300 and get the S5 so still cheaper than Edge. Then next year, when you have another upgrade, you could sell the S5 for say the same $400 and spend the usual $200 for a phone on an upgrade. Then you're up $200 as well as having a new phone.
So, over two years, just by doing some simple work and selling your old phone yourself, you'll spend a total of ~$300 for three new phones. Getting three new phones on edge over two years will cost you about $1,050.
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Damn. I guess HR people from my job didn't do their math and if they did its their lost. Nice to know the price breakdown. Thanks
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