[Q] think i have been cheated - Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello,
I bought this smartphone on aliexpress in what appeared to be a good price:
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Unlo...ne-1-5G-4-8-QHD-1280X720-1GRAM/726280982.html
(DO NOT BUY IT!)
Declared to be a quad-core Nvidia Tegra 3 to 1.5 Ghz, 1280x720, 1 Gb Ram Android 4.2, and the rest of the features that you can see in the link.
I got the phone and with my unpleasant surprise I discover that it is a dual core 1 Ghz MKT6577, 854x480 with 512 Ram.
Launching the Antutu Benchmark, in device info shows (summary):
Model A9
Device GNET A9
480x854 resolution
cpuinfo Dual core ARM v7 processor
While on System info shows (always summary)
Nvidia Quad core cpu model ARMv7
CPU Frequency 1500 Mhz
Screen resolution 1280x720
Ram size 1024 (Free 64!)
Android version 4.2.1
I have installed a bounch of information system apps and unfortunately for all of them the specs are the lower ones,
Pretty sure now that it is an MTK6577 dual core 1 Ghz 480x854 512Mb ram and android version is 4.0.1
It is possible that they have "modded" or faked something in the phone to make possible to show
different features only on antutu benchmark?
If so how can I prove it?
Tomorrow I will open the dispute.
Thanks for the help you can give

This is usually the case with cheap Chinese phones and tablets. All pretty much the same specs as yours. The details that show in system info are easy to fake. Doing so just involves editing a file called build.prop in the system folder.
To view this file, download a file explorer app like ES File Explorer, open it, it will open to your internal memory/micro SD card. Press back once or twice till you see a bunch of folders, one of which will be 'system'. Open this folder and inside you'll find a bunch of other folders and a file called build.prop. That's the file you need to open. When it asks you what to open with, choose ES Text Editor or any other text editor that's there, and view the file.
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thanks sashank
it is the answer that i needed.

Another question is:
it is also possible to falsify the antutu scores?
Because i get around 6900 that is pretty fast
for the processor involved.

oxyjo said:
Another question is:
it is also possible to falsify the antutu scores?
Because i get around 6900 that is pretty fast
for the processor involved.
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yep it's possible. a video even showed huawei's code in 1 of their phones cheating benchmark applications

It is long known that all benchmark scores can be faked even by the newest of noobs. They mean less then nothing really. Put no faith in them. And remember this piece of advice. If it sounds too good to be true, then it is.
In this day and age people are too fast to trust something on face value. Sad as it may seem this is not always the case. With the open nature of android anything is possible. I can give you a device that says it has an Octo-core S10 with 5gb of ram. A full HD 3D display that scores 90,000 on bench marks. All the while it is a pos that is sending out hundreds of SMS to a premium number as it silently grants root access to every request without user knowledge. See my point?
Batcom2

Thanks all for the support,
i have solved the dispute with the seller, he is very new in ecommerce and i think he has been cheated before me, and i consequently, he has been very fair and we agreed for a 50$ refund, that bring the phone around at its real price. This is a bit annoying, because it is not the phone that i wanted to buy, but at least it is not so bad and it works good, i will keep it for a while, waiting for new models on the market.

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Q. Where can i buy galaxy player g70 plus?

Where can i buy the samsung galaxy player g70 plus?
I tried on amazon and on ebay but i didn't find anything just some articles about the device.
Thanks for all the helpers
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http://www.exportprive.com/en/samsu...s-yp-gb70d-multimedia-player-16gb-white-.html
blcistheking said:
http://www.exportprive.com/en/samsu...s-yp-gb70d-multimedia-player-16gb-white-.html
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Thanks i have couple of questions and I will be glad if you will answer.
1. What version is it? Intl, usa, korean?
2. Is it has a 1gb of ram?
3. The roms of samsung galaxy s wifi 5.0 that are in the development section here will work on this device too?
Thanks ahead!
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kfirbep said:
Thanks i have couple of questions and I will be glad if you will answer.
1. What version is it? Intl, usa, korean?
2. Is it has a 1gb of ram?
3. The roms of samsung galaxy s wifi 5.0 that are in the development section here will work on this device too?
Thanks ahead!
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1.) It looks like 100% Korean.
2.) I don't think it mentions having 1GB of RAM , so I'd doubt it.
3.) I'm pretty sure they wouldn't work, the developers would have to adapt the current ROMs to it.
Bottom line : Don't buy it. It still has a low screen resolution, barely changed camera (3.2mp -> 5mp). Who knows about the RAM, it's Korean so it's OVERPRICED. A dual-core processor isn't worth buying a whole new device plus paying a premium.
Save your money and wait for a US/International version. Preferably a US since it'll probably sit around the current Galaxy 5 prices of $230/$270 (changes a lot) and may have better specs, hard to tell for now.
According to a guy in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1593190
It does have 1GB of RAM but it isn't worth the price tag. Samsung said there wouldn't be a us version. (probably would have been announced with the 3.6 & 4.2 if it was coming state side)
I am sorry that ur wrong. GALAXY PLAYER 70 PLUS is not 1GB RAM. It is 512MB RAM.
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start watching from 0:43 sweetheart
http://youtu.be/K2f8bHGx_3s
0.91GB of ram.
ZaIINN said:
1.) It looks like 100% Korean.
2.) I don't think it mentions having 1GB of RAM , so I'd doubt it.
3.) I'm pretty sure they wouldn't work, the developers would have to adapt the current ROMs to it.
Bottom line : Don't buy it. It still has a low screen resolution, barely changed camera (3.2mp -> 5mp). Who knows about the RAM, it's Korean so it's OVERPRICED. A dual-core processor isn't worth buying a whole new device plus paying a premium.
Save your money and wait for a US/International version. Preferably a US since it'll probably sit around the current Galaxy 5 prices of $230/$270 (changes a lot) and may have better specs, hard to tell for now.
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They changed the camera to full hd.
I have sgp 5.0 and the device is slow i dont have enough free ram (max 140 free ram after closing some apps that return automatically run again later)
I use tegrak oc so i have 1.3 ghz to make the device work faster but it still slow.
Games like pib got a lot of little stops and it sometimes even temple run.
And its little embarrassing that you give the device to a friend and it start to stuck in the games and then i need to taje the device and start kill the apps and hope it won't stuck again. Sometimes it stucks reallt hard so i need to restart the device.
This is why i want to buy the new galaxy player because it much much better.
The problem is that there are not a lot of devs to the galaxy player so it doesn't have a lot of roms :-\
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I have got one GB70D and it does have 1GB RAM. But I am not sure which cpu it has. The gpu is PowerVR SGX 540, and the frequency is 300~1008MHz. It seems to be omap 4430, but i run Antutu benchmark and compare its score with LG P920. The 2D and 3D scores are much lower than P920.
I just got a used GP70+ (YP-GB70D) and it has 1 GB RAM.
I am quite disappointed with it - the major problem is the Adobe Flash performance of videos played in the web browser.
The GP70+ has flash 10.3 installed. Since Flash player is no longer available in Google Play, I use backup copies from my other phones and tablets and .apks from apktop. Flash 11 does NOT work - either causes force closes, or start playing and freezes. I installed the last version of Flash 10 before 11 (10.3.186.7), and it can only play up to 480p video - NO HD Flash, that completely freezes.
This is really unacceptable for a dual core OMAP4430 device. My GP5.0 and the Galaxy S phone has a single core Hummingbird CPU. It has Flash 11.1 and can play up to 720p Flash video in the browser.
The device also feels a little sluggish for a dual core tablet, even when using GO Launcher. It has a 800 x 480 screen, which is lower resolution than eg. Kindle Fire (which also has OMAP4430), the GPU drives fewer pixels and everything should be faster.
One big plus is that 1080p STORED videos (MP4, DIVX) play flawlessly with MX player - MX player shows that hardware decoding is enabled. HW acceleration is NOT supported in the single core GP5.0, and it can only play up to 720p (some not all, depending on bitrate).
P.S. By the way, if any GP70+ owners want a copy of the rooted firmware of this player (GB70KRLD2), please post your request here or PM me (I don't want the upload link to be killed quickly). I searched high and low and finally found it in a Chinese forum (Google Translate saves the day!). Thank goodness it was still good for download.

[Q] Will the gnex be a high end phone?

so will the gnex be a high end phone as in having desktop convergence? according to their website, for it to be a high end phone, it needs to have a quadcore a9 processor. otherwise it fulfills every other aspect. this phone has a dualcore a9 processor, so will there be desktop convergence. I really hope there will be I want to try it out.
Well from what I saw, every video demo etc. Was specifically the galaxy nexus. At one point I did see "a" phone connected using the desktop feature. Each phone I saw using the Ubuntu mobile has been the nexus.
Edit : I've also heard the specs released aren't final and just a figure for certain phones.
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vwade79 said:
so will the gnex be a high end phone as in having desktop convergence? according to their website, for it to be a high end phone, it needs to have a quadcore a9 processor. otherwise it fulfills every other aspect. this phone has a dualcore a9 processor, so will there be desktop convergence. I really hope there will be I want to try it out.
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the entry specs are
1Ghz Cortex A9
512MB – 1GB
4-8GB eMMC + SD
Multi-touch
hig end specs are
Quad-core A9 or Intel Atom
Min 1GB
Min 32GB eMMC + SD
Multi-touch
so i think The Galaxy Nexus is just a "normal" UbuntuPhone device
owain94 said:
the entry specs are
1Ghz Cortex A9
512MB – 1GB
4-8GB eMMC + SD
Multi-touch
hig end specs are
Quad-core A9 or Intel Atom
Min 1GB
Min 32GB eMMC + SD
Multi-touch
so i think The Galaxy Nexus is just a "normal" UbuntuPhone device
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that's OEM specs, which doesn't mean much for download/install version potentially. The values of which would have been decided are best to give the full desktop experience - including downloading alot of desktop apps. Time will tell, but I suspect desktop version will run perfectly on GNEX, or any other internal memory only phone - it's just a matter of keeping your eye on space available when you are installing Ubuntu native apps.
I'm also wondering if the Desktop Feature will simply be disabled on devices with lower than recommended specs. I have seen some Ubuntu on Android videos using a Motorolla Atrix II which has exactly the same hardware as the GNex. It ran the desktop and even Ubuntu TV pretty good considering it was early in development (1 year ago) and running ontop of Android with bridges to access the phone settings and apps.

[Q] Dealing with fake components

Hello,
I bought phone from aliexpress.com. It should be octa-core MT6592, 2GB RAM, fullHD.
I installed CPU-Z and it shows, it has 8 cores, but only 1 or 2 are active at once, even if I run Antutu benchmark in background.
Also, every time I try to install Antutu (doesn't matter if from Google Play or apk), it always install some old, fake version from /system/appbackup/antutu.apk. If I delete this apk, I cannot install Antutu at all (it shows me that Package installer stopped working). Would it be possible to install some kind of edited Antutu, which have another name?
Also, I have never get more the 450 MB of used RAM, so I concluded, the RAM is also fake.
If I take screenshot, the resolution is only 480x854, so I guess, the display is not fullHD. (I tried to count pixels using magnification glass, it looks more like 960x540.)
What would you do? Is there any way to get true specifications of the phone?
Thank you in advance.

TECA Mobility

Hello there is a new kind of smartphone brand TECA Mobility​
we need for that phone is a ROM or firmware. if someone has or know something please answer
Thanks for the helpers :good:
Yes, they are all over ebay, but I cannot find information about the company, or products, anywhere.
mac01843 said:
Yes, they are all over ebay, but I cannot find information about the company, or products, anywhere.
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It is fake. Have TECA LTE706B.
Antutu really shows 8 cores, but if the CPU is loaded to 100%, only 4 cores running, the others are stopped. Ram size is 3 gigabytes not 4GB. Benchmark results are exactly half that of the true 8 core!
Photos have a size corresponding 13Mpix, however it is only recalculated from 2Mpix and maybe not even that. The quality is terrible, and if I set the camera on 2Mpix and then 13Mpix, the quality is exactly the same. The tablet has the same author of kernel version and the build number is identical to the ROM for Dikon706... Exactly the same!
ShOgIBaRiBoA said:
Hello there is a new kind of smartphone brand TECA Mobility​
we need for that phone is a ROM or firmware. if someone has or know something please answer
Thanks for the helpers :good:
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I have a TECA 706B 7 inch Tablet, but I don't know how to give you ROM or firmware.
Can you help on that?
Sorry off topic.
Hello. Do not swear, that question is not on. I would preobresti tablet, that are interested in this -. TECA 811S 4G 3.6GHz octa core 64GB 10.1 "Full-HD ANDROID 6.0 Not where I will not find reviews on the tablets of this firm if anyone that knows prompt.
Confirm Stingerray: It is fake. I can add something.
Really it has 4 cores of MTK6735 processor, 1GB RAM and 12 GB ROM. No ways to use more than 1GB RAM, on 800M used memory device has stopped working.
An attempts to fill more than 12GB - files have disappeared. To fill 11GB - OK.
Real size of the screen - 6.7". Battery experimental test - 3000 mAh. Device name is PS-LTE706, easy to find on Aliexpress. Price, naturally, much less.

Hi, what processor recommended?

I wanted to make a custom PC build but I wanted to ask you what processor recommended. My search on wallapop is Intel Core i5, but which version recommended? Link to my search
@CzechosDrama,
When looking for anything you want to purchase, build, repair, install, or uninstall. Always do research yourself as that will get you the best results. Luckily, Google has all the information you need for free to do this research, not to mention pricing and availability. Google is your friend.
Thank you!
thisguy12win
Jason Tollakson
If I was to do a PC build though. In regards to a processor I would go with the Intel i7. It's really fast and reliable.
Thank you!
thisguy12win
But you are building a pc for office or a gaming pc? this is very relevant
thisguy12win said:
If I was to do a PC build though. In regards to a processor I would go with the Intel i7. It's really fast and reliable.
Thank you!
thisguy12win
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Thanks for your recomendation, gotta check on wallapop to see a low cost and good i7 proccesor.
CzechosDrama said:
I wanted to make a custom PC build but I wanted to ask you what processor recommended. My search on wallapop is Intel Core i5, but which version recommended? Link to my search
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If it's not too late, here's some important things to know:
1. The biggest mistake people make is that they always classify processors by i3, 5, 7 and 9. Don't do this. Each processor is different based on its generation. For example, the 12th gen October 2021) i5-12600K is much faster than the 11th gen i9-11900K (March 2021), even though the number is lower.
2. There are always two types of i5 CPUs in each generation:
- i5-#400
- i5-#600
Where # is the generation number.
i5 600 CPUs are better than i5 400 CPUs but are more expensive.
3. Intel has different letters at the end of some CPUs, the main ones to know are:
K - This means that the chip is unlocked, meaning you can overclock it without voiding warranty. For any processor that is 12th gen or newer, it also means they get extra cores.
F - No integrated graphics. If you get a CPU ending with F (e.g: 12400F, 11600KF), your PC will not work unless you brought a separate graphics card (which you probably will). As a return, F CPUs are cheaper than the non-F versions.
On top of all that, i7 and i9 are still options depending on the generation.
It all depends on your budget and what you need from your PC.
I know that seemed way too complicated, so let me help you pick a CPU. Just tell me your budget and what you want your PC for.
A3RNAV said:
If it's not too late, here's some important things to know:
1. The biggest mistake people make is that they always classify processors by i3, 5, 7 and 9. Don't do this. Each processor is different based on its generation. For example, the 12th gen October 2021) i5-12600K is much faster than the 11th gen i9-11900K (March 2021), even though the number is lower.
2. There are always two types of i5 CPUs in each generation:
- i5-#400
- i5-#600
Where # is the generation number.
i5 600 CPUs are better than i5 400 CPUs but are more expensive.
3. Intel has different letters at the end of some CPUs, the main ones to know are:
K - This means that the chip is unlocked, meaning you can overclock it without voiding warranty. For any processor that is 12th gen or newer, it also means they get extra cores.
F - No integrated graphics. If you get a CPU ending with F (e.g: 12400F, 11600KF), your PC will not work unless you brought a separate graphics card (which you probably will). As a return, F CPUs are cheaper than the non-F versions.
On top of all that, i7 and i9 are still options depending on the generation.
It all depends on your budget and what you need from your PC.
I know that seemed way too complicated, so let me help you pick a CPU. Just tell me your budget and what you want your PC for.
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My budget is 30€-80€ and I want my pc for gaming, surfing the internet and testing VMs (maybe).
What exactly is your full budget (like for everything)? I would personally recommend spending a bigger part of your budget towards your CPU. Ideally you would want a 6-core CPU, but the best thing I can find under 80 is an Intel i3-10100F from 2019 on sale.
CzechosDrama said:
I wanted to make a custom PC build but I wanted to ask you what processor recommended. My search on wallapop is Intel Core i5, but which version recommended? Link to my search
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I would go with a AMD Ryzen CPU, they come with built in Vega graphics that perform really well in gaming, meaning, you won't have to buy a graphics card, if you go with an Intel CPU, you will have to buy a graphics card. AMD is a real cost saver because they are cheaper than Intel and come with excellent built in graphics.
That's actually true. The integrated graphics are really good, and you can easily get a 2nd or 3rd gen Ryzen 3 or 5 for a good price now. If you ever need to upgrade your GPU down the line the older RX series is also dropping in price
13th Gen i5 or i7 if you've got a broader budget. i9 isn't worth it the money.
Ryzen are decent, I've got one, but the Intel 13th Gen outperforms them this round.

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