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I just got off the phone with tech support and it isn't on their system...of course, it is tech support and usually, they are some of the last people to know. But, considering how hard it is to upgrade to the leaked version, do you think HTC can take on the challenge and make the update fairly pain free?
Given the fact that we were told "Honeycomb would be released soon after launch" ... I'm not holding my breath and it really is unfortunate.
Can't even get ahold of the stock RUU for the US WiFi Flyer due to HTC's lack of updates.
My gut feeling, is they wouldn't have put all the effort into making a working HC ROM, if they weren't going to release it. Remember, the leak was beta. Presumably, it will take some time to go from beta to the release/final version. Maybe we'll see a leak for that. Even then, there is some lag time between when the final version is finished, and it actually starts getting pushed out.
From the HC install guide thread on Modaco:
If you're wondering 'why so many steps and why don't we just run the ruu'? There are 2 main reasons - firstly is the fact that you need s-off, which is generally the revolutionary bootloader, which protects itself from being overwritten - a problem as the new bootloader is necessary for HC. The second reason is that flashing RUU or rom.zip updates your misc partition version tag, which can seriously limit your options should something go wrong and / or you need to roll back to Gingerbread.
For the official HC update, it would seem that neither of these issues apply, so the official update process would probably be much easier.
Very unfortunate because the beta HC from HTC is very close but has enough bugs to keep me from using it. No US RUU means you cannot try out the beta and get back to stock and since Google refused to release HC source, not much chance a 3rd party custom ROM will fix problems like camera issues and other things on HC.
My suggestion for everyone to this repeating question, whether they take it is up to the individual, keep bugging @htc and @HTCUSA on twitter (if you have a twitter account)... Or find their facebook page and ask there. Those are usually worked by PR or CS instead of tech support.
Demand usually gets a result.
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Here is what I asked them...
"Being the owner of several HTC Phones and enjoying their build quality, I recently purchased a HTC Flyer, thinking it would (as promised) get updated to Honeycomb.
Now, some web sites are reporting the flyer will not be updated.
I am now approaching my 30 day return window, so my question is, do I need to return my Flyer and buy something like the Samsung?
I really like HTC products but, I do want a device that (as promised) will get updated."
This was their reply ...
"Gary, We very much appreciate your loyalty to HTC and understand how it can be frustrating awaiting announced updates, especially when they take longer than anticipated to come out. We ask for your patience as the update is being developed and tested for your device. Thank you again!"
Guess we'll see
Edit ... I just sent this ...
"Thank you for your quick reply. As you know the official announcement was on Feb 11, 8 months ago saying the update to Honeycomb would be coming soon. The Flyer is approuching 1 year old and still no update. It seems like I may have to return my flyer and try another product. Thanks, Gary"
I am on the edge too about returning my Flyer. Friday is the last day I have to return it back to Best Buy.
I was generally more impressed with how HTC handled updates than Samsung, but seeing how this device has not recieved HC yet, I'm very much doubting that it will ever receive ICS. I am so much more interested in ICS than HC anyways. So I am thinking that I should return the Flyer and buy a newer tablet, Say the soon to be relased Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus which would have a much better chance of seeing an ICS update.
I really love the Flyer, but I am looking towards keeping a tablet for the long term...
The Toshiba Thrive 7 looks promising, but I fear a lack of dev support. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus then???
I'm leery of Samsung since they are being battered by Apple to the point of delaying their Google / Samsung joint next big thing that was scheduled for Oct.11. I don't expect you'll see ICS on a tablet for a long time since Google hasn't even released the Application layer yet and that's the easy part. After that the HW vendors have to do the kernels and drivers and that's what taking so long with HC right now.
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I am on the edge too about returning my Flyer. Friday is the last day I have to return it back to Best Buy.
I was generally more impressed with how HTC handled updates than Samsung, but seeing how this device has not recieved HC yet, I'm very much doubting that it will ever receive ICS. I am so much more interested in ICS than HC anyways. So I am thinking that I should return the Flyer and buy a newer tablet, Say the soon to be relased Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus which would have a much better chance of seeing an ICS update.
I really love the Flyer, but I am looking towards keeping a tablet for the long term...
The Toshiba Thrive 7 looks promising, but I fear a lack of dev support. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus then???
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Talk to current galaxy tab 7 wifi users about Samsung and their updates. That tablet is a year old and hasn't received gingerbread yet. You'll always be playing that game. Buy a tablet for what it has now, not what It's going to have. Be grateful that we have a stable ROM that works well. Dell Streak owners were pushing for 3.2, now half of them are reporting bugs and others are reverting to froyo. I rather them take the time to get it right. A beta build means they're working on it.
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mikejwatkins said:
I am on the edge too about returning my Flyer. Friday is the last day I have to return it back to Best Buy.
I was generally more impressed with how HTC handled updates than Samsung, but seeing how this device has not recieved HC yet, I'm very much doubting that it will ever receive ICS. I am so much more interested in ICS than HC anyways. So I am thinking that I should return the Flyer and buy a newer tablet, Say the soon to be relased Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus which would have a much better chance of seeing an ICS update.
I really love the Flyer, but I am looking towards keeping a tablet for the long term...
The Toshiba Thrive 7 looks promising, but I fear a lack of dev support. Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus then???
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I too like the Flyer but, I think I’ll go with the Lenovo ThinkPad … already has HoneyComb and a much better Notes app.
HDMI and full size usb ports
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...3A2177ABA63564CDF6AE8CD837B3&tabname=Features
Yeah.... no, I tried to like the big 10 inch. I had a Asus Transformer which worked great, but no, just couldn't really love lugging a huge slate. I have a laptop which is much more capable for lugging. SO I am really digging the Flyer
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I too like the Flyer but, I think I’ll go with the Lenovo ThinkPad … already has HoneyComb and a much better Notes app.
HDMI and full size usb ports
http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/...3A2177ABA63564CDF6AE8CD837B3&tabname=Features
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But have you actually use it? I haven't tried the flyer..but the Thinkpad tablet I have an eval unit right now in front of me and it's horrible!...main issue I have with it is that it's really sluggish...and big!...also, palm rejection probably works like 70% of the time..so as I take some notes..I get specks of dots/lines around where my palm is...
I'm not impressed by the stylus pen so far. Maybe it is much better like they say in HC, but I haven't used it yet, so that was a waste of money.
The Flyer itself is awesome. Good hardware, quality build, great HTC Sense overlay on top of GB. I do like it.
I was unaware that Samsung hadn't released an update for the wifi tab after so long. That is discouraging. But I would really like a device that will see ICS.
If the flyer was dual core and or had a slightly higher resolution screen, I'd definately keep it. But right now I'm still debating.
All HTC needs to do is update their gingerbread built to support pen in any applications users wants it to work..and I think most user would be happy..
That seems to be the issue I've been hearing about the Flyer GB build? Is that right?
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Yeah.... no, I tried to like the big 10 inch. I had a Asus Transformer which worked great, but no, just couldn't really love lugging a huge slate. I have a laptop which is much more capable for lugging. SO I am really digging the Flyer
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Same here. If I can't put it in my back pocket I don't want it.
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aarick said:
All HTC needs to do is update their gingerbread built to support pen in any applications users wants it to work..and I think most user would be happy..
That seems to be the issue I've been hearing about the Flyer GB build? Is that right?
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I only really have two complaints about the GB Flyer vs. HC. other than the pen.
1. The Sense widgets are huge on GB and the screen grid layout is sized for a phone, not a table. HC looks so much better.
2. The browser in HC seamlessly syncs bookmarks with desktop Chrome and other settings automatically are backed up in a much better fashion than GB.
aarick said:
All HTC needs to do is update their gingerbread built to support pen in any applications users wants it to work..and I think most user would be happy..
That seems to be the issue I've been hearing about the Flyer GB build? Is that right?
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EXACTLY
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I really doubt that HTC will update Flyer. I sent email to them asking about that. Their answer is not satisfying me. They say that I should wait, if there is update I will get a notification. That is really a bad answer !!!
The reason I bought Flyer is for Magic stylus. But, I am really dissapointed. There is no handwriting recognition. I may not need update, but surely I need apps that can maximize the use of stylus....
Cheers...
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But have you actually use it? I haven't tried the flyer..but the Thinkpad tablet I have an eval unit right now in front of me and it's horrible!...main issue I have with it is that it's really sluggish...and big!...also, palm rejection probably works like 70% of the time..so as I take some notes..I get specks of dots/lines around where my palm is...
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That happens sometimes with the Flyer too. They're both based on the same technology, but Lenovo's has handwriting recognition.
I do love the 7 inch form factor but, man, the Lenovo tablets are looking really attractive right now, especially with both a stylus and a keyboard.
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I'm not impressed by the stylus pen so far. Maybe it is much better like they say in HC, but I haven't used it yet, so that was a waste of money.
The Flyer itself is awesome. Good hardware, quality build, great HTC Sense overlay on top of GB. I do like it.
I was unaware that Samsung hadn't released an update for the wifi tab after so long. That is discouraging. But I would really like a device that will see ICS.
If the flyer was dual core and or had a slightly higher resolution screen, I'd definately keep it. But right now I'm still debating.
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Sorry for the little bit off-topic.
Samsung did upgrade my ex-galaxy tab 7 with GB 3 months ago. After the upgrade, things were smoothly but the chip is still 1G.. playing HD games were still slow. Anyways, I already sold it and bought the 10.1 and it was much faster... and nicer but too big for me.. and I sold it too after I saw a price drop for the flyer.
I am thinking to get the flyer since I really enjoy smaller tablet. 10.1 was nice but too big for me and my kids. I am thinking
1) flyer
2) galaxy tab 7+ (good size dual-core, HC ready and possible ICS in the future)
3) galaxy tab 8.9 (my prefer - I have tried it @best buy, really love the size HC + touchwiz was cool)
may I ask someone who have the flyer
1) do you see/feel any slowness playing games? since it is single-core. my ex-tab 7 was slow sometime.. but my 10.1 was so smooth.
2) how is the pen? my sons like to draw, is it worth to pay 80 bucks to get the pen?
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
I'm in China right now and got a bunch of RMB from my friends relatives due to taking good care of them in Canada.
Anyway I was going to spend it here before going back to Canada, and right now I'm unhappy with my BB9900 and would like a more fun phone. Is the GS2 still a good buy or should I really spend the extra and go for the nexus? Or even some other phone? Though I would like to stay with Samsung as I have had good luck with their products. I heard good things about WP7 but I'm not sure if Samsung makes a newer good phone for that.
Any insight would be great, thanks!
Yes definately still worth it!
In my eyes and im sure many others the s2 is still the best android phone out.
Yes the Gnexus has ICS, but the S2 has better hardware and ics will be on our phone in less then a month !
Also, u forgot to mention the galaxy note
or is that to big?
WP7 is good, but the marketplace is lacking in some well known apps, but i really like the lumia 800.
there
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There are 3 phones to choose from s2,note,nexus. based upon you usage you can go for any three of these.
if you use your mobile for watching videos then note would be awesome.
if you need pure google experience go for nexus
if you want latest mods and customizations + a good phone go for s2
Galaxy S series is renewed each year in June-July, so you should get one and enjoy it for ~5-8 months, worth it I think. Got mine last month, and I've planned on upgrading to the S3 2-3 months after it has come out
Honestly, the SGS2 is too big for me. Other than that, taking into consideration that it was released almost a year ago, it's a MONSTER phone. If you can get it relatively cheap, go for it. I never for one second regretted buying it this summer
I think the Note may be too big, I have a sony tablet S so that takes care of my large screen Right now it's more between the 4.3 to 4.6" devices that is about as large of a phone as I want.
I'll probably get the SGS2.
DigitalNinja2012 said:
I'm in China right now and got a bunch of RMB from my friends relatives due to taking good care of them in Canada.
Anyway I was going to spend it here before going back to Canada, and right now I'm unhappy with my BB9900 and would like a more fun phone. Is the GS2 still a good buy or should I really spend the extra and go for the nexus? Or even some other phone? Though I would like to stay with Samsung as I have had good luck with their products. I heard good things about WP7 but I'm not sure if Samsung makes a newer good phone for that.
Any insight would be great, thanks!
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If you have money to spend on the S3 soon and I'd recommend going with the S2. If not, stick with the Galaxy Nexus as it will still be good 2 years down the road and compatible with all applications/games out there.
Hardware-wise, the S2 is superior, just keep in mind that it will be quickly superceded by the S3 when it comes out. Software-wise, I have to say as it is the S2 has better apps built-in compared to 4.0.2 GSM GN (browser, camera software, office apps, media codecs, etc.) but again, ICS 4.0.3 is likely the last 1 or two updates than will come to the S2.
DigitalNinja2012 said:
I think the Note may be too big, I have a sony tablet S so that takes care of my large screen Right now it's more between the 4.3 to 4.6" devices that is about as large of a phone as I want.
I'll probably get the SGS2.
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If I were you..I will go for galaxy nexus
If I were you..I will wait for S3...S2 is almost a year old
TheSaw said:
Honestly, the SGS2 is too big for me. Other than that, taking into consideration that it was released almost a year ago, it's a MONSTER phone. If you can get it relatively cheap, go for it. I never for one second regretted buying it this summer
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I always imagined you to have enormous hands - now I know you have delicate birdlike ones. I'm stunned
Hello,
I'm strongly considering getting one of the above, once the second one is available. The fact that the noteay have a stronger processor is a plus.
What should I be looking out for in these devices? What are niggles that would prompt me to check and potentially need to replace if found? Software bugs? Construction quality?
Overall use is going to be internet, everyday calendar, notes etc.
Thanks in advance!
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Wait for note. It will probs be lighter and thinner and will defo have a faster processor. Plus it ships with ics. And it has the pen
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adamski123 said:
Wait for note. It will probs be lighter and thinner and will defo have a faster processor. Plus it ships with ics. And it has the pen
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it is neither lighter nor thinner , but has a faster processor and a pen
If you're price conscious then the original tab is a great buy. Also consider that accessories for the 10.1 Note will be at a premium while a ton of stuff for the original tab are on clearance.
Wait for the note... The pen is surprisingly great (on the note 5.3 anyway), and the faster processor will be a nice upgrade, because the Tegra 2 in the original 10.1 tab isn't great... Very laggy... Yes it's better with cm9, but still not that good.
I have a gt-p7510 Galaxy tab 10.1 and I like it, but if I didn't already have it, I would definitely wait for the note 10.1.
Thanks for the replies guys. Really appreciated.
I too hate the lag and on video reviews of the note I thought it was very slow so good thing they are improving the processor.
I always wondered if you could use a stylus on the original tab. What is the upgrade that makes the note souh better with the stylus from the tab?
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vasp3690 said:
Hello,
I'm strongly considering getting one of the above, once the second one is available. The fact that the noteay have a stronger processor is a plus.
What should I be looking out for in these devices? What are niggles that would prompt me to check and potentially need to replace if found? Software bugs? Construction quality?
Overall use is going to be internet, everyday calendar, notes etc.
Thanks in advance!
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If you're planning to use it for note-taking, the note 10.1 is an easy choice. For everything else, you'll want to consider whether the faster processor is worth the price difference.
I would also wait on the note, even though it won't be out for a good while. I got the galaxy tab 10.1 a few weeks ago and am loving it so far. But this won't stop me from getting the note 10.1 the moment it becomes available (will have to sell this tab then lol). The biggest thing, for me personally, is the pen; stylus functionality isn't the best thing in the world when it comes to the original tab 10.1 even though it may be functional. But thats all it is, functional, not amazing or practical when it comes to taking notes (student's perspective). Of course the processor bump just makes it sweeter, I'm just hoping the price isn't too steep.
Would the Note have the same touch capability as the Tab if not using the pen? If so, then it was be a great plus!
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Would the Note have the same touch capability as the Tab if not using the pen? If so, then it was be a great plus!
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Yes the stylus isn't required. The touch capability would be the same as the current tab, if anything better (highly unlikely) when it comes to using your fingers. The stylus just adds the extra dimension of certain apps that take advantage of that, such as iAnnotate PDF, Zenbrush, etc. And lets not forget the superb precision the pen will bring when it comes to drawing and taking notes. If Samsung puts in an AMOLED HD screen (Ok I'm seriously asking for too much with this suggestion) this tablet will be beyond perfect, IMO.
If price isn't a concern, I'd say wait for the Note. Why buy last year's model when the new one is right around the corner? The processor bump will probably be enough to justify the price difference, but I'm happy enough with my Tab to sit this round out.
as I have mentioned in other threads my experience with 3g model has not been good, as in Samsung stock experience.
The hardware is good, there is no denying of that of course, and if you can mod it you can get pretty good results (I am happy with the latest ROM I installed, Overcome + pershoot kernel).
Although samsung seems to be delaying ics upgrade in favor of new hardware and in my case in Spain I haven't received a single update to my 3g from stock HC 3.1, and stock is everything but functional after little use, not to mention no launcher hw acceleration so when you have a few icons, dragging them around can be infuriating, of course forget about live wallpapers, screen not refreshing certain elements after a while, reboots, and similar utter failure.
From what I am reading Asus is giving better support and motorola xoom already has ICS.
I even have a college at work who is talking wonders about a chinese tab (Onda?) which is much cheaper and already working with ICS.
I suggest you consider the manufacturer.
So here it is June. Any rumored dates for the Galaxy Note 10.1?
And will that justify a new forum, or will we continue with this one?
daniel_fm said:
as I have mentioned in other threads my experience with 3g model has not been good, as in Samsung stock experience.
The hardware is good, there is no denying of that of course, and if you can mod it you can get pretty good results (I am happy with the latest ROM I installed, Overcome + pershoot kernel).
Although samsung seems to be delaying ics upgrade in favor of new hardware and in my case in Spain I haven't received a single update to my 3g from stock HC 3.1, and stock is everything but functional after little use, not to mention no launcher hw acceleration so when you have a few icons, dragging them around can be infuriating, of course forget about live wallpapers, screen not refreshing certain elements after a while, reboots, and similar utter failure.
From what I am reading Asus is giving better support and motorola xoom already has ICS.
I even have a college at work who is talking wonders about a chinese tab (Onda?) which is much cheaper and already working with ICS.
I suggest you consider the manufacturer.
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I don't have any of those problems with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Dragging icons is fine, live wallpapers work fine, everything refreshes as it should, and I've not had any spontaneous reboots. I'm not rooted and everything seems zippy and smooth. Best tablet I've had so far. I'd like ICS but I'm willing to be patient. I'm sure they have their hands full making sure it's stable and working properly with Touchwiz. Anyone waiting for it through a carrier should be angry with them, not Samsung. The carriers are the ones responsible for pushing the update and most of them drag their feet for some reason.
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I don't have any of those problems with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Dragging icons is fine, live wallpapers work fine, everything refreshes as it should, and I've not had any spontaneous reboots. I'm not rooted and everything seems zippy and smooth. Best tablet I've had so far. I'd like ICS but I'm willing to be patient. I'm sure they have their hands full making sure it's stable and working properly with Touchwiz. Anyone waiting for it through a carrier should be angry with them, not Samsung. The carriers are the ones responsible for pushing the update and most of them drag their feet for some reason.
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Agree with this and i got no carrier limitations since i got international sim unlocked Tab and they cant prevent My upgrades
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Personally I say neither and go with Asus. Of the tablets Samsung has been amount the worse at providing updates and failing to do so.
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Timelessblur said:
Personally I say neither and go with Asus. Of the tablets Samsung has been amount the worse at providing updates and failing to do so.
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Untrue. LG and Motorola have been far worse. Again, any carrier locked device is at the mercy of the carrier, not Samsung. Samsung may very well have pushed the ICS update to all the major carriers but they haven't pushed it out to their customers yet. Probably because they want to shove all their own UIs and bloatware on it first.
I would be getting the tab sim free and adding a sim to it later on. I much rather not have a locked device if I can buy it depending on price. So I presume updating wont be an issue.
Still no word from samsung though about the release dates
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Near the end of june now and still nothing from samsung for this one...
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Hey all,
My Jetstream was stolen on the weekend, and I need to get a new tablet. However, I want one with an active (aka pressure-sensitive) stylus, as I had grown quite attached to that feature on the Jetstream.
My initial reaction was to get a Flyer or another Jetstream, but I started wondering if there's a more popular tablet (aka one that has/will get ICS and/or JB) that has the same functionality.
Thoughts anyone?
Lenovo Thinkpad is an option - it also comes with an active N-trig stylus. They already have ICS. But I am not so very sure of the pricing and the hardware. Other option would be to wait for the Note 10 inch which I have no idea about but seems to be well spoken of like most other Samsung devices. I found the Jetstream to have the best hardware combo - only drawback as you know the software development which seems to have developed some interest as of now. If i were in your situation, would have gone for a Jetstream again because I like the Sense UI better than others.
Cool, I didn't know about the Lenovo... although a guy I sometimes work with has one, and it's thick and ugly.
I was just reading about the Samsung Note 10.1 and it looks awful tempting, I think I'll probably hold out for that. I've got an HP TouchPad with CM9 on it that I can cope with for the next few weeks. (And hopefully the Nexus 7 spurs Samsung to drop the retail price of the Note 10.1 down from the rumoured $500.)
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Cool, I didn't know about the Lenovo... although a guy I sometimes work with has one, and it's thick and ugly.
I was just reading about the Samsung Note 10.1 and it looks awful tempting, I think I'll probably hold out for that. I've got an HP TouchPad with CM9 on it that I can cope with for the next few weeks. (And hopefully the Nexus 7 spurs Samsung to drop the retail price of the Note 10.1 down from the rumoured $500.)
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Well I do hope you get what you want. I would have personally re-chosen the Jetstream without another thought especially in view of the price cuts that we have seen for it of late.
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Well I do hope you get what you want. I would have personally re-chosen the Jetstream without another thought especially in view of the price cuts that we have seen for it of late.
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We didn't get the price cut in canada, it's still $800 from Rogers. I picked up a used Flyer for $150, which will be a nice stop- gap until the Galaxy Note 10.1 or htc's rumoured jelly bean tablet comes out.
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i'd consider microsoft slate if i was looking for a tablet nowadays..
http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_tab_s8-6681.php
http://www.mobilegeeks.com/lenovo-tab-s8-full-review-video/
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/
Do you guys think this device will be supported by anyone on XDA?
There isn't a trace of anything currently, which appears to be the case for anything by Lenovo unfortunately, which is a shame as this appears to be a very capable device.
I'd love to replace my N7 (2013) with one but the lack of support and being forced to use Lenovo's (most likely crap) software is a deal-breaker.
It currently costs just over £100 in the UK because of a deal with Curry's and a cashback scheme from Lenovo themselves.
Nice little tablet
I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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Yea it would be nice but that's my concern.
All the "smart" people are using Nexus 7s or Galaxy Tabs and have no interest in this.
I've decided against it for now! Glad you're enjoying yours though.
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I hope this gets support!
Spec wise it's better than the nexus 7. The Intel atom 3745 is bang in the middle performance wise compared to the snapdragon 600 and 800. Got mine for 107 from p.c world, what a bargain!!!
Hope the popularity picks up and we see it get root access. Custom roms would be a huge bonus, but I won't be holding my breath!
Forum needed
I too would love to see a sub-forum for this device. I've bought one and am seriously impressed with it for the price. Only one gripe is that the screen flashes once every so often. I hope it's software related rather than hardware.
Interesting, mine does the screen flashing too. It seems some apps cause it more than others.
I would love to see a forum for this device to start getting users together.
i would like to get root on this aswell, its an awesome tablet for the price but root would make it so much better
ThisDude78 said:
I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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Is that a little like walking backwards? Get the device first, then hope for root and/or developer support.
Generally, the advice is check for root and/or developer support first, then buy the device. Apart from ensuring you don't end up with a dead end device, it also ensures that your business goes to reward manufacurers that produce open and flexible devices that really do adapt to their customer's needs and usage rather than forcing customers into a strait jacket.
I would also like to gain root access for this device. If anyone knows of a way to root I'd be extremely thankful!
MiyagiSan said:
Is that a little like walking backwards? Get the device first, then hope for root and/or developer support.
Generally, the advice is check for root and/or developer support first, then buy the device. Apart from ensuring you don't end up with a dead end device, it also ensures that your business goes to reward manufacurers that produce open and flexible devices that really do adapt to their customer's needs and usage rather than forcing customers into a strait jacket.
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I understand the point you are trying to make, but it doesn't apply to my decision to buy this tablet. It would be nice to have a root solution for the reasons I mentioned, but I knew one was unavailable when I purchased it. If we get root, great, I'll use Titanium Backup and get rid of some apps I don't plan on using. If we don't get root, it's still a great tablet with a fantastic screen, decent speakers, and solid performance for under $200. Since I'm unlikely to keep any device as my primary device for more than around 18 months (I get bored and want something shinier!), I'm not super concerned about whether or not it's considered a "dead end device" either.
ThisDude78 said:
I understand the point you are trying to make, but it doesn't apply to my decision to buy this tablet. It would be nice to have a root solution for the reasons I mentioned, but I knew one was unavailable when I purchased it. If we get root, great, I'll use Titanium Backup and get rid of some apps I don't plan on using. If we don't get root, it's still a great tablet with a fantastic screen, decent speakers, and solid performance for under $200. Since I'm unlikely to keep any device as my primary device for more than around 18 months (I get bored and want something shinier!), I'm not super concerned about whether or not it's considered a "dead end device" either.
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It's cool that you were informed before you bought it. LG G Pad 8.3 offers similar benefits but is more open.
On these devices that can monitor ever more of what one does and report back to who-knows-where without one's knowledge or permission, one is motivated to demand more and more control that isn't possible if the devices are locked down. I hope Lenovo's lack of openness doesn't rub off on Motorola now they own it.
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For what it's worth, I found a working root method at the Russian Lenovo forums. I can't post a link because I haven't made enough other posts yet, but it's pretty easy to find.
You will need to register to download the files.
I can confirm it worked on my s8-50f. There also appears to be a TWRP recovery posted, but I haven't tried that yet.
ThisDude78 said:
For what it's worth, I found a working root method at the Russian Lenovo forums. I can't post a link because I haven't made enough other posts yet, but it's pretty easy to find.
You will need to register to download the files.
I can confirm it worked on my s8-50f. There also appears to be a TWRP recovery posted, but I haven't tried that yet.
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Did you mean this forum?
A little OT. I apologize but...
The newly released Nokia N1 seems a good, comparable device for similar outlay. Intel Atom too. Unlocked bootloader. Wifi-only though.
Sadly no word on kernel sources, 3rd party developer friendliness etc
MiyagiSan said:
Did you mean *removed* this forum[/URL]?
A little OT. I apologize but...
The newly released Nokia N1 seems a good, comparable device for similar outlay. Intel Atom too. Unlocked bootloader. Wifi-only though.
Sadly no word on kernel sources, 3rd party developer friendliness etc
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Yeah, that's the right forum.
I looked at the N1, and had it been available when my Nexus 7 broke, it would have been on my short list. My only real issue is the aspect ratio. It's unclear at this time how well apps are going to play on th 4:3 screen. I've read that a lot of stuff doesn't really look great on the Nexus 9. That could turn out to be a totally groundless concern though, we'll see.
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Yeah, that's the right forum.
I looked at the N1, and had it been available when my Nexus 7 broke, it would have been on my short list. My only real issue is the aspect ratio. It's unclear at this time how well apps are going to play on th 4:3 screen. I've read that a lot of stuff doesn't really look great on the Nexus 9. That could turn out to be a totally groundless concern though, we'll see.
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I'd bet it would be on a lot of shortlists. Nokia dropped the ball by not releasing this in time for Xmas. Would have ended up in a few stockings that may now get an Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact or Nexus 7/9 or LG G Pad 8.3 or iPad Mini...
Just trying to determine if CM11 (or other AOSP roms) can be ported to it. That would make it an awesome [almost budget] choice.
ThisDude78 said:
I bought one a couple of weeks ago to replace my Nexus 7 (2012) that had a cracked screen. I've been really happy with it so far. Lenovo's software isn't that bad, and you can fix most of the issues (no app drawer?) by installing something like Nova or Apex launcher. I would like root access so that I can use Titanium Backup and get rid of some bloatware, but I have not been disappointed in the tablets performance at all.
Let's hope someone smarter than me finds an exploit for this tablet soon.
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hello
Can you make calls through it? Supposedly there is an LTE version but not sure if that is just for data access or actually has cellular capability for calling. Thanks.
mac231us said:
hello
Can you make calls through it? Supposedly there is an LTE version but not sure if that is just for data access or actually has cellular capability for calling. Thanks.
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There is an LTE version (S8-50CL I think?), but mine is wifi only. I don't know if the LTE variant can make calls. To be honest, I'm not sure I've seen the LTE version available for purchase anywhere.
ThisDude78 said:
There is an LTE version (S8-50CL I think?), but mine is wifi only. I don't know if the LTE variant can make calls. To be honest, I'm not sure I've seen the LTE version available for purchase anywhere.
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thanks...i saw this one (have heard of this site before..not bad from what I have heard) (though description at bottom is for an older design, info at top is for the new design)
http://www.merimobiles.com/lenovo-tab-s8-50-4g-lte-8inches-2gb-ram-16gb-ram-tab_p/meri10444.htm
yes Lenovo site at
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/#tab-features
says this
"Optional LTE ConnectivityThe TAB S8 supports high-speed LTE (4G) data connectivity - enabling you to browse websites, stream movies & music, and do so much more at blazingly fast speeds. In certain regions, additional voice support is available on select models."
wonder what those select models are...
Question..how is the display quality? viewing angles, color, brightness and not smudgy I hope...maybe reflective guessing. any info appreciated
thx
mac231us said:
thanks...i saw this one (have heard of this site before..not bad from what I have heard) (though description at bottom is for an older design, info at top is for the new design)
http://www.merimobiles.com/lenovo-tab-s8-50-4g-lte-8inches-2gb-ram-16gb-ram-tab_p/meri10444.htm
yes Lenovo site at
http://shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/tablets/lenovo/s-series/s8/#tab-features
says this
"Optional LTE ConnectivityThe TAB S8 supports high-speed LTE (4G) data connectivity - enabling you to browse websites, stream movies & music, and do so much more at blazingly fast speeds. In certain regions, additional voice support is available on select models."
wonder what those select models are...
Question..how is the display quality? viewing angles, color, brightness and not smudgy I hope...maybe reflective guessing. any info appreciated
thx
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The display is the best part of this tablet, honestly. It's bright, the colors look great (to me at least), and the viewing angles are fantastic. It doesn't collect any more smudges than the display on my G2.
Sent from my Lenovo TAB S8-50F using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
ThisDude78 said:
For what it's worth, I found a working root method at the Russian Lenovo forums. I can't post a link because I haven't made enough other posts yet, but it's pretty easy to find.
You will need to register to download the files.
I can confirm it worked on my s8-50f. There also appears to be a TWRP recovery posted, but I haven't tried that yet.
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Could you upload the files mate