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Hi,
I am trying to restore a couple of nandroid backups, but a Device Administrator app gone "quirky" seems to materialize no matter what I do. I did a CWM Wipe, restored the nandroid backup before the app went bad. However that did not work, the app was still misbehaving. So I wiped again, restored a nandroid backup from before I had installed the app. Still the app shows up again. It has in effect locked me out of the device.
Can anyone tell what can I do to get rid of the app?
Are these Device Admin app supposed to persist like this? Or am I doing something wrong?
Do I need to choose a different wipe mode (I chose the normal one, which wipes /data/, /cache etc). I did not try to wipe /cache separately, as the first wipe does that by itself. Neither did I wipe the dalvik cache, as I thought they are not relevant here. I don't see any relevant files in the sdcard either, though how the app reappears in the nandroid restore before it was installed is a mystery.
Should I mount more partitions before wiping, like the data/cache etc.
Since the wipes don't seem to make it go away, I am not even sure flashing a different ROM would get rid of this app either, however I can try that (since I was planning to anyway, before this mishap). If that doesn't work either, I might just have the most unusual case of bricking ever.
The XDA forum does not seem to be much info about device-admin apps and my search-fu is not good enough today to find anything directly relevant about the other stuff.
PS. btw the app actually modifies the lockscreen. So I don't actually see the files it has with the pre-app restore, however the lockscreen still comes up, perhaps because of some remanant of the app or because of a setting it left in there somewhere.
efs?
Just to add more info, I see some files in /efs, which look relevant to the lockscren/ They have file names like this "/efs/cryptoprop_lockscreen".
Would these files store the data this app stored. I fortunately have an EFS backup, should I consider restoring these files.
If someone doesn't know the answer, can they suggest which devs would be good to ask about this.
AnDruid said:
Hi,
I am trying to restore a couple of nandroid backups, but a Device Administrator app gone "quirky" seems to materialize no matter what I do. I did a CWM Wipe, restored the nandroid backup before the app went bad. However that did not work, the app was still misbehaving. So I wiped again, restored a nandroid backup from before I had installed the app. Still the app shows up again. It has in effect locked me out of the device.
Can anyone tell what can I do to get rid of the app?
Are these Device Admin app supposed to persist like this? Or am I doing something wrong?
Do I need to choose a different wipe mode (I chose the normal one, which wipes /data/, /cache etc). I did not try to wipe /cache separately, as the first wipe does that by itself. Neither did I wipe the dalvik cache, as I thought they are not relevant here. I don't see any relevant files in the sdcard either, though how the app reappears in the nandroid restore before it was installed is a mystery.
Should I mount more partitions before wiping, like the data/cache etc.
Since the wipes don't seem to make it go away, I am not even sure flashing a different ROM would get rid of this app either, however I can try that (since I was planning to anyway, before this mishap). If that doesn't work either, I might just have the most unusual case of bricking ever.
The XDA forum does not seem to be much info about device-admin apps and my search-fu is not good enough today to find anything directly relevant about the other stuff.
PS. btw the app actually modifies the lockscreen. So I don't actually see the files it has with the pre-app restore, however the lockscreen still comes up, perhaps because of some remanant of the app or because of a setting it left in there somewhere.
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Do a CWM wipe, and turn off the phone when done by selecting "Power Off"
Now enter download mode, and ODIN flash a stock ROM.
Then re-root with CF-Root and install custom ROM if desired.
pulser_g2 said:
Do a CWM wipe, and turn off the phone when done by selecting "Power Off"
Now enter download mode, and ODIN flash a stock ROM.
Then re-root with CF-Root and install custom ROM if desired.
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Thanks for the help pulser_g2. I am still concerned about the files i saw in /efs related to the lockscreen (see my second post). Would the stock ROM overwrite settings/configuration inside /efs (I guess since the IMEI etc are all in there, that might not be the case)?
Got through finally.
pulser_g2 said:
Do a CWM wipe, and turn off the phone when done by selecting "Power Off"
Now enter download mode, and ODIN flash a stock ROM.
Then re-root with CF-Root and install custom ROM if desired.
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OK this worked.
However after I Odin flashed the stock rom and rebooted, I got this
1. First got a different kind of lockscreen.
2. I entered the wrong password five times (after trying the Device Admin alternate password, my Google password, a new 2-step auth password from google) .
3. it said something about wiping sd card. I couldn't catch it (I should probably have videoed this using my point and shoot camera, but this did not strike me then as it was 2am).
4. I was hoping that the stock ROM will boot, cause it stayed on the Samsung logo for too long. (I had already ordered my USB Jig on ebay anyway, but it could have taken time because of my being far off from the seller.). Finally I got the Android Welcome screen and I let out my breath.
In any case, things seem to ok right now. I feel a slight slowness in the rooted stock ROM from my earlier rooted stock ROM, but I am gonna flash a custom ROM later anyway. Thanks a lot for your help pulser.
I have a phone that is behaving very strangely after a boot loop that solved itself when I took the battery out mid-boot. The triangle has disappeared, although I did nothing to make this happen, and the OS is behaving strangely despite doing a full factory reset. Running VillainROM 2.0.
I would like to do a full rewipe of all software, right down to the bare metal. What's the procedure for doing this? I've done a factory reset from CWM but I'd like to do a wipe from the lowest level possible, akin to a formatting of the HDD on a PC. How would I go about this? Would using ODIN to flash a stock ROM achieve this?
*2767*3855#
Intratech said:
*2767*3855#
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A little more info about what this does and what needs to be done to get the phone back into a usable state would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Install stock firmware from Intratech stock firmware post in dev section via Odin after wipe .
Latest firmware to suit your region .
jje
JJEgan always so straight to the point. You're helpful, but you sound harsh. Like some all-knowing god. Haha..
Had bootloops with Villainrom too. Has to do with the modem and kernel. After flashing, wipe again. This does not remove the rom, only removes settings.
mrnaz said:
A little more info about what this does and what needs to be done to get the phone back into a usable state would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Oh, you have to input that into the dialpad. Sorry.
Dila Pad....
mrnaz said:
A little more info about what this does and what needs to be done to get the phone back into a usable state would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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It will do a factory reset on your phone, basically removes most crap and you end up with a nice clean phone.
If you are rooted you will not lose it but it does delete the stuff on your sdcard (internal storage) so do backup.
prodygee said:
JJEgan always so straight to the point. You're helpful, but you sound harsh. Like some all-knowing god. Haha..
Had bootloops with Villainrom too. Has to do with the modem and kernel. After flashing, wipe again. This does not remove the rom, only removes settings.
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Like some all-knowing god. Haha..
Not me i know leetle
If i have major problem i format phone under windows explorer .
Boot to recover wipe dalvic wipe cache , mounts and settings and format data system etc . Go to download mode and install stock rom via Odin him fixee .
jje
What i Used to do on my old SGS when i wanted a "full wipe" was :
- hard reset via *2767*3855# (given by JJEgan )
-Flash with Odin WITH pit file ( so you have to find one )
OR
If you are rooted and have access to CWM , going to "mount and storage" and use the options to format each partition works too( except probably "format /emmc", wasn't existing on the old SGS so not sure what happens if you format this one).
And then, as before, flash with Odin, with pit file.
With either way, you are guaranted to have a total "clean phone".
You can also format internal and external SDCards beforehand(especially Internal SD, since some Apps store part of their parameters on Internal SD (Like Zedge, Go Launcher and such...) , but that's a little overkill i think
Intratech said:
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Oh god.. I just typed that for fun and I found out it's impossible to cancel it
Oh **** xD bad move right there, bruflot. Things you enter into the dialpad launch at the moment you insert the last # haha. Lesson learnt?
You are not alone.....
bruflot said:
Oh god.. I just typed that for fun and I found out it's impossible to cancel it
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I have seen that number quoted a few times on forums without much explanation and its a one way street.
The good thing is that now you have a nice clean phone, you shoulnt have lost you root (if you were) and will have fun installing and configuring your apps.
Its a little bit noty, like when linux gurus tell noobs to try rm -fr /.
ATB
el.motar said:
I have seen that number quoted a few times on forums without much explanation and its a one way street.
The good thing is that now you have a nice clean phone, you shoulnt have lost you root (if you were) and will have fun installing and configuring your apps.
Its a little bit noty, like when linux gurus tell noobs to try rm -fr /.
ATB
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I always suggest sudo first for that trick
If you run commands on linux without knowing what they do, you deserve the consequences tbh...
I've been having alot of issues, lag, freezes, reboots, and ive been having these issues on a few different roms ive tried. I had Been running the paranoid android one from Jamied81 and it worked great but then i switched around and on any rom including the PA one, and other cm10 roms, im having the same issues, So There must be something wrong with my phone... i guess?
How can i completely wipe clean and start fresh? because ive been wiping data, cache and dalvik cache but thats not helping...
Of course i could go back to best buy and cash in on my warranty.. but i really dont want to do that...
thanks
Well,
It depends on the level you want to take the "cleaning" too...
Data, cache, dalvik cache, and stats are a normal cleaning, and used by most folks to get an average clean.
Some roms even state to do this 3 times or more to be sure.
Two additional steps are needed to get the device "clean". and it involves moving everything off of the device to PC storage, and wiping the following two areas.
( by everything, I mean "anything" you want to keep. pictures etc.)
First, the SD card. As the device uses this memory location for cache of files, and bits of user data, it can be a source of misery when bouncing between roms. so a complete format to FAT32 on the PC will wipe this card clean.
Second, and my personal favorite, is wiping of the internal card space, or the EMMC partition.
This is performed through the recovery, under the advanced options menu, in the format sub-section.
Effectively, wiping the emmc "will" remove all rom data from the device, above the normal data wipe level, and leaves the device empty.
Note: the new rom will re-populate the needed files to run the rom upon the first boot cycle.
IMPORTANT !!!
If moving files back to your device from PC, you must ensure that they are clean too. It is very easy to forget that many files contain rom specific data, and should be avoided as a restore function, especially APK's....
The partitions from the last rom will remain in place, but they will be overwritten by using odin to restore the device. ( if you wish to restore the factory rom architecture )
If odin or kies are not used, the rom partitions remain, but are empty anyway.
"WARNING" !!!!
Although this method is considered safe, you "will lose "any" data or files left behind on the internal space of the device, or on your External SD card by formatting.
And you must place a new rom to your External card prior to placing the card back into the phone, and use CWM or TWRP recovery to flash a new rom in recovery mode. (unless odin or kies are used to return a device to stock condition)
Note: (no pun intended)
This method will "not" touch your recovery, Unless using odin or kies to push a non-rooted rom to the device, and the user must choose carefully when selecting any firmware image to flash.
It is up to the user to restore the factory partitions by flashing a stock odin rom, unless the last rom was a "stock" rom. (Note: kies may be used as well, but Odin is the most common, and works well )...
The standard recovery flash can be used, and is advised if you want to retain root...!!!!
"WARNING" !!!... THE USE OF ODIN OR KIES TO FLASH A STOCK FIRMWARE IMAGE WILL REMOVE YOUR ROOT, AND RECOVERY, FORCING THE DEVICE BACK TO A STOCK STATE....( choose carefully as you select any image to flash using Odin or Kies, as these roms are likely "NOT" rooted roms, and will jam you up)...
I hope this helps you.
Please ask if you have any questions, "before" attempting this procedure... PM included.
And could the Mods please move this thread to QA ? Thank you.....g
gregsarg said:
Well,
It depends on the level you want to take the "cleaning" too...
Data, cache, dalvik cache, and stats are a normal cleaning, and used by most folks to get an average clean.
Some roms even state to do this 3 times or more to be sure.
Two additional steps are needed to get the device "clean". and it involves moving everything off of the device to PC storage, and wiping the following two areas.
( by everything, I mean "anything" you want to keep. pictures etc.)
First, the SD card. As the device uses this memory location for cache of files, and bits of user data, it can be a source of misery when bouncing between roms. so a complete format to FAT32 on the PC will wipe this card clean.
Second, and my personal favorite, is wiping of the internal card space, or the EMMC partition.
This is performed through the recovery, under the advanced options menu, in the format sub-section.
Effectively, wiping the emmc "will" remove all rom data from the device, above the normal data wipe level, and leaves the device empty.
Note: the new rom will re-populate the needed files to run the rom upon the first boot cycle.
IMPORTANT !!!
If moving files back to your device from PC, you must ensure that they are clean too. It is very easy to forget that many files contain rom specific data, and should be avoided as a restore function, especially APK's....
The partitions from the last rom will remain in place, but they will be overwritten by using odin to restore the device. ( if you wish to restore the factory rom architecture )
If odin is not used, the rom partitions remain, but are empty anyway.
"WARNING" !!!!
Although this method is considered safe, you "will lose "any" data or files left behind on the internal space of the device, or on your External SD card by formatting.
And you must place a new rom to your External card prior to placing the card back into the phone, and use CWM or TWRP recovery to flash a new rom in recovery mode.
Note: (no pun intended)
This method will "not" touch your recovery, Unless using odin or kies to push a non-rooted rom to the device, and the user must choose carefully when selecting any firmware image to flash.
It is up to the user to restore the factory partitions by flashing a stock odin rom, unless the last rom was a "stock" rom. (Note: kies may be used as well, but Odin is the most common, and works well )...
The standard recovery flash can be used, and is advised if you want to retain root...!!!!
"WARNING" !!!... THE USE OF ODIN OR KIES TO FLASH A STOCK FIRMWARE IMAGE WILL REMOVE YOUR ROOT, AND RECOVERY, FORCING THE DEVICE BACK TO A STOCK STATE....( choose carefully as you select any image to flash using Odin or Kies, as these roms are likely "NOT" rooted roms, and will jam you up)...
I hope this helps you.
Please ask if you have any questions, "before" attempting this procedure... PM included.
And could the Mods please move this thread to QA ? Thank you.....g
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Wow.... first of all, thanks for the very detailed reply.
So i format the card separately, format the emmc in recovery, and install a new rom? do i need to deal with the other partitions? or will the new rom just take care of that?
mottyengel said:
Wow.... first of all, thanks for the very detailed reply.
So i format the card separately, format the emmc in recovery, and install a new rom? do i need to deal with the other partitions? or will the new rom just take care of that?
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The partitions will be empty....and the device will be as clean as you can safely get it, without risking a brick....g
gregsarg said:
The partitions will be empty....and the device will be as clean as you can safely get it, without risking a brick....g
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Thanks alot for your help!!
mottyengel said:
Thanks alot for your help!!
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Always welcome...g
Another easy way...go to this site: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/25980-sgh-i717ucle2-official-leak/, follow the instructions, bam. Basically just throw into DL mode and hit start, its one of the one click Odin ICS leaks from designgears and it completely wipes everything on your phone.
I have run into similar sounding problems as yours where my phone won't wipe properly in cwm, and I've used this to completely nuke my internal storage and start over.
Of course, transfer all pictures, music, and important files to your computer first. Then after you use the one click Odin, just begin romming as usual
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With a nice moist wipe!
Sent from the TermiNOTEr!
While i've seen and like the rootzwiki method, I prefer to manually wipe and install roms.
For me, it adds back in, that level of control I like to have when changing roms etc.
I'm the " do it myself " kinda user ...but I agree, it's a good system.
Thank you for posting it ....g
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borijess said:
With a nice moist wipe!
Sent from the TermiNOTEr!
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..springtime fresh ??
Oh yehhhhhhhhhh!!!.....LOL .......g
I factory reset. cache wipes. Darkside wipe zip.
"The clean getaway"
gregsarg said:
Always welcome...g
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Yeah, I prefer the manual way in cwm as well, but I've run into an error a couple of times where it won't wipe properly. So I nuke my phone to fix the ability to wipe. There's no way I would do that every time I flash a ROM.
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welchertc said:
Yeah, I prefer the manual way in cwm as well, but I've run into an error a couple of times where it won't wipe properly. So I nuke my phone to fix the ability to wipe. There's no way I would do that every time I flash a ROM.
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True ....and of course, my post was meant in the context of a device having severe problems.
I seldom use that method either, but in a pinch it's good to have available ......and if users see and retain either of the methods we've posted, they can repair virtually any problem going forward.
And hopefully avoid those JTAG moments we all dread ....g
That's for sure. Haha.
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LOL. !!!
Excellent !!!
welchertc said:
Another easy way...go to this site: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/25980-sgh-i717ucle2-official-leak/, follow the instructions, bam. Basically just throw into DL mode and hit start, its one of the one click Odin ICS leaks from designgears and it completely wipes everything on your phone.
I have run into similar sounding problems as yours where my phone won't wipe properly in cwm, and I've used this to completely nuke my internal storage and start over.
Of course, transfer all pictures, music, and important files to your computer first. Then after you use the one click Odin, just begin romming as usual
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Thanks for the reply. But, i dont see any instructions... what do i do with the file?
Basically its a one click version of Odin with the files already loaded into it so you don't have to pick anything.
Download it to your comp, unzip the file (I believe?), open the program, put your phone into download mode, connect it to your comp, make sure Odin recognizes it, then click start.
Takes a bit because its a huge process that it's undertaking, but at times its necessary to go nuclear on your phone.
Really should only be used as a last resort to wiping your phone.
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welchertc said:
Basically its a one click version of Odin with the files already loaded into it so you don't have to pick anything.
Download it to your comp, unzip the file (I believe?), open the program, put your phone into download mode, connect it to your comp, make sure Odin recognizes it, then click start.
Takes a bit because its a huge process that it's undertaking, but at times its necessary to go nuclear on your phone.
Really should only be used as a last resort to wiping your phone.
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Agreed ....g
I mostly wipe front to back.
Hello, s2 galllery just become unusable. How ? Well I connected device to the pc, copyed some photos to pc and then deleted some photos of s2 gallery from my computer with shift+delete. after that I disconnect device and guess what? Yes gallery and photo itself either lags alot even though its even less photos in the mobile than before or does not even start or says gallery is not respoding. Restarted device - did not help. deleted gallery data(cache) from applications section also did not help. I hope to find an answer without doing a factory reset.
for now it doesnt even start - says loading for ever
DZG said:
Hello, s2 galllery just become unusable. How ? Well I connected device to the pc, copyed some photos to pc and then deleted some photos of s2 gallery from my computer with shift+delete. after that I disconnect device and guess what? Yes gallery and photo itself either lags alot even though its even less photos in the mobile than before or does not even start or says gallery is not respoding. Restarted device - did not help. deleted gallery data(cache) from applications section also did not help. I hope to find an answer without doing a factory reset.
for now it doesnt even start - says loading for ever
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What ROM are you on again?
DZG said:
Hello, s2 galllery just become unusable. How ? Well I connected device to the pc, copyed some photos to pc and then deleted some photos of s2 gallery from my computer with shift+delete. after that I disconnect device and guess what? Yes gallery and photo itself either lags alot even though its even less photos in the mobile than before or does not even start or says gallery is not respoding. Restarted device - did not help. deleted gallery data(cache) from applications section also did not help. I hope to find an answer without doing a factory reset.
for now it doesnt even start - says loading for ever
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Did you do a safe disconnect of device?
Also, why does doing factory reset bother you? All you need to do is backup apps/appdata via Titanium Backup Pro, and SMS via SMS Backup, factory reset and restore backups and contacts will sync via google account. Its no big deal your not going to lose anything.
Also, why on earth call this a "major bug" when its completely obvious that it isnt otherwise it would be very common and well known about already. Plus you dont even bother to mention what ROM you're using, did you even check the roms thread? Or if stock did you contact Samsung?
I don't like factory resets either, I actually avoid them.
gastonw said:
I don't like factory resets either, I actually avoid them.
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Why?
TheATHEiST said:
Why?
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Because I'm able to, and I don't have to. Everything always works fine. It's crazy.
gastonw said:
Because I'm able to, and I don't have to. Everything always works fine. It's crazy.
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Well if everything works fine, Its not that your "avoiding it" its simply that you "dont need" to use it. So your original comment makes no sense.
Only time you need to wipe data is when moving to a new rom base/type, If you face issues or if you just want to do a clean install.
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Well if everything works fine, Its not that your "avoiding it" its simply that you "dont need" to use it. So your original comment makes no sense.
Only time you need to wipe data is when moving to a new rom base/type, If you face issues or if you just want to do a clean install.
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Avoiding it by not messing up with it. I could choose to go and play with things that will require a factory reset. I think I made that pretty clear, you just have to read it, think about it and read it again.
I'm good with semantics & semiotics, didn't I tell you that?
BTW, I flash with MO, it does the wipping itself.
Be good now.
gastonw said:
Avoiding it by not messing up with it. I could choose to go and play with things that will require a factory reset. I think I made that pretty clear, you just have to read it, think about it and read it again.
I'm good with semantics & semiotics, didn't I tell you that?
BTW, I flash with MO, it does the wipping itself.
Be good now.
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And at what point did you make it "pretty clear" ?
Also what has Mobile Odin got to do with the price of fish? The wipe in question is in general if you have issues with a particular rom resulting in attempting to clear it by clearing non-default data/settings, Not about when wiping before/after first rom flash which is mostly for custom roms via CWM when its strongly advised unless moving up version of same rom. Since it ounds like you only use stock rom then you will very rarely come across teh need to use wipe.
Either way its not that your "avoiding" it, its simply that you have no "need" to use wipe in your circumstances because its not necessary.
Wiping data/factory reset is no big deal either way as the most important stuff can very easily be backed up and restored so if you have issues with system and cant resolve it then just backup everything and do wipe (and/or clean install of rom) and restore it back, simple.
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And at what point did you make it "pretty clear" ?
Also what has Mobile Odin got to do with the price of fish? The wipe in question is in general if you have issues with a particular rom resulting in attempting to clear it by clearing non-default data/settings, Not about when wiping before/after first rom flash which is mostly for custom roms via CWM when its strongly advised unless moving up version of same rom. Since it ounds like you only use stock rom then you will very rarely come across teh need to use wipe.
Either way its not that your "avoiding" it, its simply that you have no "need" to use wipe in your circumstances because its not necessary.
Wiping data/factory reset is no big deal either way as the most important stuff can very easily be backed up and restored so if you have issues with system and cant resolve it then just backup everything and do wipe (and/or clean install of rom) and restore it back, simple.
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Second quote TheATHEiST
Obviously you are talking to somebody who is very inexperienced with Android.
You can always download gallery apps from the play store. This would be along your lines of something you can do to fix it.
Also this is not a major bug!! Very very very minor at best!
TheATHEiST said:
And at what point did you make it "pretty clear" ?
Also what has Mobile Odin got to do with the price of fish? The wipe in question is in general if you have issues with a particular rom resulting in attempting to clear it by clearing non-default data/settings, Not about when wiping before/after first rom flash which is mostly for custom roms via CWM when its strongly advised unless moving up version of same rom. Since it ounds like you only use stock rom then you will very rarely come across teh need to use wipe.
Either way its not that your "avoiding" it, its simply that you have no "need" to use wipe in your circumstances because its not necessary.
Wiping data/factory reset is no big deal either way as the most important stuff can very easily be backed up and restored so if you have issues with system and cant resolve it then just backup everything and do wipe (and/or clean install of rom) and restore it back, simple.
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Exactly. See? now you got it.
I just do not flash custom ROMs.
Wasn't so hard, was it? It' simple; you said it yourself.
TheATHEiST said:
Dude, your talking utter crap. At no point did you "make it clear" (as you claimed) you was only flashing stock roms.
I'm ending this conversation now because you're starting to get annoying.
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So elocuent.
And don't worry, I always knew you couldn't see my point. Everyone else did.
Behave
Alright, I hope I have this in the right place. I just recently flashed the TerraSilent Kernel for the Galaxy Player 4.0 US version. The Flash went fine, but my device was running extremely slowly. A re-flash didn't solve it either. I figured that wiping the cache partition might solve the problem - I decided to do this before running a backup, since no important data is stored in the cache (...right?), and since I was worried that backing up while I had this problem could make things worse - so I went ahead into CWM and did just that. Then, it reboots, and I nearly get a heart attack. The stock wallpaper is back, it's using the default launcher again (I had LauncherPro installed), and pretty much only system apps work, all the others have an icon with an SD card on it, and when clicked on, it says something like "application not installed". I did some searching, and it seemed like a reboot might help (although I didn't find anyone with a problem like mine anywhere). The reboot didn't do anything, so now I have it shut down, so that nothing can happen. The odd thing is, it doesn't seem to me like the system messed up and did a full wipe instead, either, because a couple of things I have are still there - for example, some of my bookmarks I made on the homescreen while still using the default launcher are still there. I'm really confused because I have wiped the cache partition before, when I was still on an unmodified stock kernel, and everything stayed the same, the way I thought it was supposed to. And now this happens. What do I do now? I exported my absolute most important data (Astrid Tasks and Calendar) before I installed TerraSilent (but I obviously wasn't able to do a full backup because I wasn't rooted, I figured installing TerraSilent would root it), so my absolute most important data is on my computer. I also did a simple file backup of the internal USB storage and external SD card to another computer before flashing TerraSilent. However, there is still a good deal of data still need, and a lot of data that would just be a pain in the rear to recreate, not to mention my (valuable to me) game data. What did I do wrong - or did something in the system mess up? And - what do I do to get back to where I was before?
It happened to me when I was on gingerbread with terrasilent. It's a known issue with this kernel. In fact, you didn't wipe the data, but the recovery contain a bug wich format the data as soon as you do an operation wich mount the data partition(I think it's this but I can't remind) but it doesn't wipe the system or anythin else, so the icon, setting and everything else stay there but without anything attach to them. I don't remind what was causing it, I only stopped using cwm with this kernel unless I wanted to flash something or to wipe everything. Sorry but I can't help you more as I don't remind everything, it's been a while since I've been on gingerbread.
ti-pich said:
It happened to me when I was on gingerbread with terrasilent. It's a known issue with this kernel. In fact, you didn't wipe the data, but the recovery contain a bug wich format the data as soon as you do an operation wich mount the data partition(I think it's this but I can't remind) but it doesn't wipe the system or anythin else, so the icon, setting and everything else stay there but without anything attach to them. I don't remind what was causing it, I only stopped using cwm with this kernel unless I wanted to flash something or to wipe everything. Sorry but I can't help you more as I don't remind everything, it's been a while since I've been on gingerbread.
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Wasn't that problem solved with a later version of the kernel though?
And, assuming that's what happened (what you describe sounds pretty much like what happened to me), would that mean that the only way to try and get it back would be by trying to recover the formatted data?
trainman261 said:
Wasn't that problem solved with a later version of the kernel though?
And, assuming that's what happened (what you describe sounds pretty much like what happened to me), would that mean that the only way to try and get it back would be by trying to recover the formatted data?
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It was said to be resolved, but it happened to some peoples even thought. Maybe you can recover some of your data with your computer and some tools that let you get the erased data, but I can't guarantee the integrity of your data and you would need to replace every bit of data that was there before to get it running nicely. The easiest way would be to try to recover some of your important data, put it on your computer then wipe your player and start from scratch (wipe data/factory reset) and reinstall your apps. Then put back the save, or setting or files that you got back in your apps. Hope this help, I'm not a proffessional with data recovering or where to put it back after you got it, maybe someone else could further help you with this.
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ti-pich said:
It was said to be resolved, but it happened to some peoples even thought. Maybe you can recover some of your data with your computer and some tools that let you get the erased data, but I can't guarantee the integrity of your data and you would need to replace every bit of data that was there before to get it running nicely. The easiest way would be to try to recover some of your important data, put it on your computer then wipe your player and start from scratch (wipe data/factory reset) and reinstall your apps. Then put back the save, or setting or files that you got back in your apps. Hope this help, I'm not a proffessional with data recovering or where to put it back after you got it, maybe someone else could further help you with this.
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OK, my reply is late, but thanks for your help. I managed to copy the partition with all the deleted contents over to the computer, and I'll have to study the contents some other time, because I've spent about 24+ hours on this problem in total, and need my device for more important purposes - those for which the data I managed to copy before the custom kernel and everything else. For those of you who have a similar issue, this is how I managed to save (or that is I am 95% sure this will have saved at least some, as I said I haven't studied it yet) what I hope is a good chunk of my data.
Have you tried flashing a different kernel? Terrasilent also gave me some weird in that after a few days my device would boot into recovery by itself then wipe all my data in that only my system apps would remain. So it's a little different than what's happened to you. I ended up using klin's R3 kernel or Steven's kernel that fixed the issue.
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obscuresword said:
Have you tried flashing a different kernel? Terrasilent also gave me some weird in that after a few days my device would boot into recovery by itself then wipe all my data in that only my system apps would remain. So it's a little different than what's happened to you. I ended up using klin's R3 kernel or Steven's kernel that fixed the issue.
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I've got huge issue with steve's kernel. You can get into recovery, but once you booted in it will simply bootloop. Then you have to flash back with odin. So if you go with steve's kernel, don't boot into recovery. As for klin's kernel, I've never tried it, and will probably never as we have some really nice jellybean rom that I recommend you.
I never got that issue with steve's kernel.
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obscuresword said:
Have you tried flashing a different kernel? Terrasilent also gave me some weird in that after a few days my device would boot into recovery by itself then wipe all my data in that only my system apps would remain. So it's a little different than what's happened to you. I ended up using klin's R3 kernel or Steven's kernel that fixed the issue.
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Actually, with my problem, my system apps did remain, so it's almost the same problem, only my device didn't boot into recovery on its own (seriously, it booted into recovery on its own and wiped the data? ). I only installed the terrasilent kernel to be able to upgrade to JB, so I'm now on JB, running into different problem (the wrong settings are being backed up from google backup, they're restoring from my galaxy mini 2), but thanks anyway. I am really not having any luck at all with this whole update . But ti-pich, I agree with you, that JB rom is awesome
trainman261 said:
Actually, with my problem, my system apps did remain, so it's almost the same problem, only my device didn't boot into recovery on its own (seriously, it booted into recovery on its own and wiped the data? ). I only installed the terrasilent kernel to be able to upgrade to JB, so I'm now on JB, running into different problem (the wrong settings are being backed up from google backup, they're restoring from my galaxy mini 2), but thanks anyway. I am really not having any luck at all with this whole update . But ti-pich, I agree with you, that JB rom is awesome
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Yes it did, after 1 week. I was like ???. I reflashed it again and it did the same exact thing, and it happened to me while I was at my college too.
I also had that same issue where it was restoring from the wrong device. I just had to reflash the rom, and install stuff manually because it was making my device horribly slow.
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Yes it did, after 1 week. I was like ???. I reflashed it again and it did the same exact thing, and it happened to me while I was at my college too.
I also had that same issue where it was restoring from the wrong device. I just had to reflash the rom, and install stuff manually because it was making my device horribly slow.
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Wow that is some scary stuff, now I know why every kernel/ROM/mod has a disclaimer at the beginning ... I'm glad I'm off that now and on a stable JB build now. I found a way to have it restore at least some of the stuff from when it was on gingerbread (mostly apps and appdata, no WiFi passwords or other settings - at least I'm pretty sure, I'm still working on getting all the stuff up and running) - go into a terminal, and type
Code:
bmgr list sets
It will probably have two different sets, one for when it was on GB and one for JB - or that is, if you had the problem, there will probably be a third set for a different device (maybe more). Then, choose the one you want to restore from, and type
Code:
bmgr restore xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and replace xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with the apropriate ID from the command before. I'm having to type it several times in order to get it to work - I type it once, it restores some apps, then stops, I type it again, and it restores some more - but I'm hoping it gets as much possible onto the JB build. I guess this won't help you much, I've seen you saying on the ICS and JB threads that you've upgraded a while ago, but I guess if someone else comes along with the same problem, I hope it will help
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Wow that is some scary stuff, now I know why every kernel/ROM/mod has a disclaimer at the beginning ... I'm glad I'm off that now and on a stable JB build now. I found a way to have it restore at least some of the stuff from when it was on gingerbread (mostly apps and appdata, no WiFi passwords or other settings - at least I'm pretty sure, I'm still working on getting all the stuff up and running) - go into a terminal, and type
Code:
bmgr list sets
It will probably have two different sets, one for when it was on GB and one for JB - or that is, if you had the problem, there will probably be a third set for a different device (maybe more). Then, choose the one you want to restore from, and type
Code:
bmgr restore xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and replace xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with the apropriate ID from the command before. I'm having to type it several times in order to get it to work - I type it once, it restores some apps, then stops, I type it again, and it restores some more - but I'm hoping it gets as much possible onto the JB build. I guess this won't help you much, I've seen you saying on the ICS and JB threads that you've upgraded a while ago, but I guess if someone else comes along with the same problem, I hope it will help
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hmmm. I'm about to try Terrasilent with my YP-G1 (US version) running 2.3.6. This is giving me second thoughts. Does this kernel still cause issues with SGP 4.0s running GB 2.3.6?? Maybe I should try the old Steves Kernel? I just want to use voodoo sound - thats really the only reason I want to root and get these kernels.