Hello, I was just wanting to get a few things verified before I flashed my first rom. I have been following these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006946
Where it says to root, then unlock the bootloader. First 2 are checked. so no problem there
3rd step it talks about using CWM but when i was running the app that the instructions suggested, the app suggested to install TWRP so that's what I did. So then i rebooted into twrp and said "backup" and checked everything so that it backs up all my data. Is that what is considered a nandroid backup? and so from there I'm safe.
Also I had titanium and said to backup up everything and anything from there as well. So both of those will be uploaded to my box account along with remaining in my PC.
Also for good measure, I plugged in my phone, opened explorer and just copied everything within the internal storage and sd card so that I have those too. Not sure if they will be useable at all but figured why not.
So would I have put myself in a good position such that if I mess up later on, I can revert back to the way I am right now?
TWRP just doesn't call it a nandroid back up like CWM when it's finished backing up so as long as TWRP finished successfully you're fine. The only current ROM I knlw of right now that doesn't flash with TWRP is the Korean JB port and that is stated in bold red letters in the OP so you can flash away in my opinion. Looks like you have it all covered.
As a side note I have had three different LG devices and honestly find them near impossible to permanently brick. LGNPST became one of my best friends a long time ago and his brother QPST as well, lol.
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TWRP just doesn't call it a nandroid back up like CWM when it's finished backing up so as long as TWRP finished successfully you're fine. The only current ROM I knlw of right now that doesn't flash with TWRP is the Korean JB port and that is stated in bold red letters in the OP so you can flash away in my opinion. Looks like you have it all covered.
As a side note I have had three different LG devices and honestly find them near impossible to permanently brick. LGNPST became one of my best friends a long time ago and his brother QPST as well, lol.
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Ahh okay thanks. I didn't realize that nandroid was just CWM terminology. Good to know I was doing everything right. And I wasn't looking for Korean JB.
Oh good to know. I will have to mess with LGNPST just to make sure I can do everything properly incase I ever need to actually do it. Good to hear it's pretty reliable and thanks again.
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Ahh okay thanks. I didn't realize that nandroid was just CWM terminology. Good to know I was doing everything right. And I wasn't looking for Korean JB.
Oh good to know. I will have to mess with LGNPST just to make sure I can do everything properly incase I ever need to actually do it. Good to hear it's pretty reliable and thanks again.
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Good to see your trying to cover all your bases. Don't over complicate things for yourself, though. As long as your simply flashing roms built for your device and following directions you'll be ok. You're bound to run into a few hiccups if you get the bug, like most of us have, and start flashing everything you can. But no worries, there's always a way to fix.
Also, since your brand new to this stuff, read up on the threads and give them a few days before flashing Anything. Let some of the more experienced guys test them out and leave feedback.
Have fun!
Edit: one last thing, TiBu is more hassle free if you only use it for app + data, as opposed to, system data.
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Also, if you are using the recovery installed by FreeGee, I'd update to a more current one found in the development thread. The first couple were a little glitchy.
Edit: great advice from Tango above. They usually recommend to never restore system data. It will render your phone's ROM FUBAR more often than not.
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TangoXray said:
Good to see your trying to cover all your bases. Don't over complicate things for yourself, though. As long as your simply flashing roms built for your device and following directions you'll be ok. You're bound to run into a few hiccups if you get the bug, like most of us have, and start flashing everything you can. But no worries, there's always a way to fix.
Also, since your brand new to this stuff, read up on the threads and give them a few days before flashing Anything. Let some of the more experienced guys test them out and leave feedback.
Have fun!
Edit: one last thing, TiBu is more hassle free if you only use it for app + data, as opposed to, system data.
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Okay thanks. Honestly, I'm not too concerned about my apps and data. I was really just doing everything so that I can get a working phone again quickly if I end up breaking something. I don't expect to be changing too often, I'm waiting for slick rom v4 to come out, then a few days after I'll be flashing my phone. I was just wanting to get everything ready now incase I run into anything unexpected I dont' rush it due to wanting to try the rom.
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Also, if you are using the recovery installed by FreeGee, I'd update to a more current one found in the development thread. The first couple were a little glitchy.
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Uh...I used FreeGee from the app store, so whatever that one installs. Good to know it is out of date. I'll go check out the new version and try to get that one installed.
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Bleh I need to wait 5 minutes between posts and edits.
Well it looks like my TWRP is v2.3.2.3 which seems to be the neweest version (although really old 11/28/12)
Also I suppose I should run TiBu with app+data only if using system data causes such big problems. Thanks for the warning guys.
Just remember one of the most important things to do is read, read and read again when you first start out. There's also plenty of help here as long as you are respectful and ask in a detailed intelligent manner.
This is one of the best communities on XDA imo. Great people and devs.
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This is one of the best communities on XDA imo. Great people and devs.
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It seems most of the usual jerks you'd find don't have the patience to wait for the JB source to come along, so don't use this phone. Lets hope that they don't start flocking here now that we've got it. :laugh:
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It seems most of the usual jerks you'd find don't have the patience to wait for the JB source to come along, so don't use this phone. Lets hope that they don't start flocking here now that we've got it. :laugh:
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Just remember one of the most important things to do is read, read and read again when you first start out. There's also plenty of help here as long as you are respectful and ask in a detailed intelligent manner.
This is one of the best communities on XDA imo. Great people and devs.
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Reading. Yes. I enjoy learning and understanding (what I actually can) about what is going on. I got this phone the week it came out and have been waiting and watching while the community develops. It feels okay now to be jumping on board. I had to learn quite a bit coming from iOS. I jailbroke it and used mods but I'm just a user not a developer. So really wanted to learn all the safety precautions for android.
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It seems most of the usual jerks you'd find don't have the patience to wait for the JB source to come along, so don't use this phone. Lets hope that they don't start flocking here now that we've got it. :laugh:
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I was worried about posting my question and people just flaming me. But I definitely appreciate the help that has been offered. Makes me feel a lot more comfortable getting this done, that if something does go wrong I have somewhere I can turn to.
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So I've done a few roots before but each time I always do the same research, going through all of the guides and making sure I'm fully aware of everything that could factor in before proceeding (one bad experience'll do that to ya). I'm pretty sure I have everything together and just have three questions before I begin:
1) I have an AT&T Galaxy SII but am not sure whether or not I have the UCKK6 over the air update. How would I go about checking this?
2) I was mostly interested in Villainrom as a custom rom, however, I noticed that there is only a release in the international version of the Galaxy S II (at least as far as I can find). Do the differing features between the two phones mean that I am unable to install this? If so I was going to go with CM7 (I've been a CM fan for a while now and with ICS coming it was a close decision between the two), however, I noticed on their official site the phone pictured with the Galaxy SII section is the International version. This kinda ties back in with my first question, being I don't want to attempt to flash something that has a chance of not working
3) I planned on using superclick to root, and then I have mobile odin pro to flash the rom. As far as I know these are the only two programs/files I need for the process besides the Rom, is that correct?
Thank you for your time!
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So I've done a few roots before but each time I always do the same research, going through all of the guides and making sure I'm fully aware of everything that could factor in before proceeding (one bad experience'll do that to ya). I'm pretty sure I have everything together and just have three questions before I begin:
1) I have an AT&T Galaxy SII but am not sure whether or not I have the UCKK6 over the air update. How would I go about checking this?
2) I was mostly interested in Villainrom as a custom rom, however, I noticed that there is only a release in the international version of the Galaxy S II (at least as far as I can find). Do the differing features between the two phones mean that I am unable to install this? If so I was going to go with CM7 (I've been a CM fan for a while now and with ICS coming it was a close decision between the two), however, I noticed on their official site the phone pictured with the Galaxy SII section is the International version. This kinda ties back in with my first question, being I don't want to attempt to flash something that has a chance of not working
3) I planned on using superclick to root, and then I have mobile odin pro to flash the rom. As far as I know these are the only two programs/files I need for the process besides the Rom, is that correct?
Thank you for your time!
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1) Settings > About Phone > Android Version (2.3.6 = KK6, 2.3.4 = KH7)
2) Hellraiser (look in the development forums); you may have a problem with the links. Someone posted theirs, but I can't find it. Hopefully someone can post theirs here.
3) I don't know. I think it'd have to be a tar file. Typically, you want to get a CWM kernel and install from there (see stickies or development; somewhere around here there's a guide). Creepy Crawly's sticky in general is probably what you want. I only use mobile odin to flash modems and kernels; hadn't used it to flash an entire rom. The only other use I've seen others report is flashing firmwares.
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So I've done a few roots before but each time I always do the same research, going through all of the guides and making sure I'm fully aware of everything that could factor in before proceeding (one bad experience'll do that to ya). I'm pretty sure I have everything together and just have three questions before I begin:
1) I have an AT&T Galaxy SII but am not sure whether or not I have the UCKK6 over the air update. How would I go about checking this?
2) I was mostly interested in Villainrom as a custom rom, however, I noticed that there is only a release in the international version of the Galaxy S II (at least as far as I can find). Do the differing features between the two phones mean that I am unable to install this? If so I was going to go with CM7 (I've been a CM fan for a while now and with ICS coming it was a close decision between the two), however, I noticed on their official site the phone pictured with the Galaxy SII section is the International version. This kinda ties back in with my first question, being I don't want to attempt to flash something that has a chance of not working
3) I planned on using superclick to root, and then I have mobile odin pro to flash the rom. As far as I know these are the only two programs/files I need for the process besides the Rom, is that correct?
Thank you for your time!
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1. Settings > about phone then scroll to the bottom.
2. Use hellraiser to run i9100 roms minus any ics roms. Look in developmentsection.
3. Look in sticky section for root instructions. After that mobile Odin a custom kernel then find the ROM you want flash in cwm then flash hellraiser package
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1) I have an AT&T Galaxy SII but am not sure whether or not I have the UCKK6 over the air update. How would I go about checking this?
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Dude, if this is a question for you, then forget modifying your phone until you read some more. Did you look at the sticky? Make sure you understand it before you attempt rooting or flashing anything.
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Dude, if this is a question for you, then forget modifying your phone until you read some more. Did you look at the sticky? Make sure you understand it before you attempt rooting or flashing anything.
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^ my thoughts exactly
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Thanks for the replies! T'would appear I have the update so I'll prob just wait on the all in one. Cheers
Probably for the best.
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Probably for the best.
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There's no reason for you to be an asshole... I've flashed phones before. Because I wasn't sure whether this specific update info could be found in that section or not is the reason I asked. Sure I could've Googled it just as easily but I had a more important question to ask, namely the one referring to the use of international roms. I've been modifying devices for about six years now, from flashing/upgrading/downgrading PSPs, iPhones, rooting phones and various devices in between. Your advice I'm sure applies to some people but that doesn't mean you give it sounding like an elitist prick. Get over yourself, you're not some master flasher and you have no idea my specific experience. I'm waiting for an all in one because its easier and I don't necessarily NEED a rooted phone right now, not because I'm so technologically inept I couldn't figure it out.
If you couldn't figure out something as basic as finding which ROM version your phone is running, then you certainly are likely to find yourself among those who come in here looking for help after a flash goes bad. The forums are littered with them. I wasn't trying to sound like a prick (although I often do) with that reply, I was just encouraging you to take my earlier advice on reading up more before attempting a flash. Everything you asked about could be answered by just doing a little research instead of starting a new thread.
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Miami_Son, you and entropy512 are so misunderstood..
Seems like last week I was chastising entropy for "sounding like a douche" and calling devs "divas" lol I totally get it now... My apologies to all of you..
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It's a thankless job, but we do it gladly.
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Thanked! Lol. It is appreciated, too bad the pay sucks.
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I've done plenty of generic reading on it, plenty of nooby guides, plenty of flashes. I wasn't certain whether or not that update was something associated with the overall "system firmware" or whatever the terminology is. There's a certain way of suggesting things to do, and you as a "help giver" have a responsibility to make sure you're a) giving accurate advice in regards to someone's scenario and b) giving it in a way that doesn't make you out to be a jerk
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I've done plenty of generic reading on it, plenty of nooby guides, plenty of flashes. I wasn't certain whether or not that update was something associated with the overall "system firmware" or whatever the terminology is. There's a certain way of suggesting things to do, and you as a "help giver" have a responsibility to make sure you're a) giving accurate advice in regards to someone's scenario and b) giving it in a way that doesn't make you out to be a jerk
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What fantasy world are you living in? Help is given here for free and in any form the poster wants to give it in. There is absolutely zero responsibility other than to follow the forum rules. I am a jerk so why would I try to present myself otherwise? You should quit while you're behind.
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I've done plenty of generic reading on it, plenty of nooby guides, plenty of flashes. I wasn't certain whether or not that update was something associated with the overall "system firmware" or whatever the terminology is. There's a certain way of suggesting things to do, and you as a "help giver" have a responsibility to make sure you're a) giving accurate advice in regards to someone's scenario and b) giving it in a way that doesn't make you out to be a jerk
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Just shut up now.. Read and figure it out.. If you cant figure it out... STOP.. Do nothing.. Last thing anyone wants is you jacking up your phone... Not because anyone gives a damn, but because we gotta listen to you cry about you messin up your **** cuz you were too stoopid (sp on purpose)... Nobody owes you anything.. Invest the time and do it right the first time. Read EVERY PAGE of the root method you want to flash. Then come back here and cry about something you missed.. We all know it's coming.. I'll wait..
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People round here dont give the fish away. You gotta go get em yourself.. They've done everything but bait the hook for you..
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People round here dont give the fish away. You gotta go get em yourself.. They've done everything but bait the hook for you..
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Those little thumb tacks are sharp and pointy like hooks. the thread titles attached to them tease me like worms tease fish. Hook = baited... just sayin'.
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Those little thumb tacks are sharp and pointy like hooks. the thread titles attached to them tease me like worms tease fish. Hook = baited... just sayin'.
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That's deep.....
But that's a stretch.. I mean I see how you got there and all but..
Really!??
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I've done plenty of generic reading on it, plenty of nooby guides, plenty of flashes. I wasn't certain whether or not that update was something associated with the overall "system firmware" or whatever the terminology is. There's a certain way of suggesting things to do, and you as a "help giver" have a responsibility to make sure you're a) giving accurate advice in regards to someone's scenario and b) giving it in a way that doesn't make you out to be a jerk
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There are a few people here you'll learn to love...
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I will finally be unlocking my rezound once I get home from school .... I'm so nervous I will brick it lol. Can someone suggest a noob friendly Rom to get started that has full functionality..I would like WiFi tether to work in infrastructure mode ..since I'm getting the vita next week. I know this question has been beaten to death but there were a lot of different threads with like different opinions and it would be easier if it is all just in this one thread for me. Thanks
I still have a stock Unrooted Rezound also..Will be watching this thread..so let me know your ups and downs..I might do this as well.
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I will finally be unlocking my rezound once I get home from school .... I'm so nervous I will brick it lol. Can someone suggest a noob friendly Rom to get started that has full functionality..I would like WiFi tether to work in infrastructure mode ..since I'm getting the vita next week. I know this question has been beaten to death but there were a lot of different threads with like different opinions and it would be easier if it is all just in this one thread for me. Thanks
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I really would stick to just rooted and debloated stock for now. If you reallly want a custom rom I think Scott's Clean rom's run well or Nil's business sense rom's just make sure you are downloading the Gingerbread versions. Make sure you read the threads to see about tethering since that is something i have never done so never paid attention to what works or doesn't with tethering.
P.S. unlocking is extremely easy, just follow the directions on the HTCdev site precisely and you will not have an issue. Also I would definately suggest sticking with Amon Ra for your recovery seems to have the least trouble right now. Clockwork official is really new to the rezound and I still seem to read threads that people have trouble with backups or restoring backups and sometimes even installing roms using it.
Stick to GB for now.
Read the threads and find out which one suites you best. Everyone has different tastes. Do your homework and you won't have problems.
To answer the question about tethering...the only infrastructure tethering to be found is on an ICS ROM. Unfortunately that's not "noob" friendly.
Yes- definitely read the entire threads of any ROMs you are considering so you will know what to expect as far as bugs and known issues.
Stick with Amon Ra recovery. There's an update coming with a fix if it's not already posted.
GB ROMs have ad-hoc tethering. ICS have infrastructure. But ICS ROMs are not fly functional so again- read entire threads to know what you're getting into.
I really like Ineffabilis GB. I would probably just use it with stock kernel though. I'm not seeing a benefit to using dsb although maybe I just need to play with CPU settings more.
This is my first smartphone and something that's really helped me is keeping a text file with notes on how to do everything so I don't have to search for info again when I need it. Also gathers lots of info from various threads in one place and makes it easier to learn everything. Seems it's quite different on this phone since it is still s-on.
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Yes- definitely read the entire threads of any ROMs you are considering so you will know what to expect as far as bugs and known issues.
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This ^^^^^ would be the most important advice you can get. Read, read, read.
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i dont understand why people are soo scared... its highly unlikely you will brick your phone... but if you can follow direction then you will be fine
yojoe600 said:
i dont understand why people are soo scared... its highly unlikely you will brick your phone... but if you can follow direction then you will be fine
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I think uncomfortable would be more appropriate. It's just something new to this person, and that would be a normal reaction.
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I think uncomfortable would be more appropriate. It's just something new to this person, and that would be a normal reaction.
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Yeah, and a nervous excitement. I was fortunate that WasabiWa83 offered to stand by in chat in case anything went wrong. And a week or so later when I was reflashing a ROM and the phone gave me an error message in the middle of flashing saying it couldn't read my ext sd card I got stuck on the HTC splash screen and I didn't even panic, just went through the steps I had read about and all was good again.
So as long as you read and learn, once you've gone through everything you get comfortable since you know there's a way out of any trouble you may encounter.
Unlocking is simple and easy. Don't worry about bricking the phone man. I owned an Incredible before my Rezound and installed ROMs, radios, kernels, splash screens, you name it and never had a problem. Once you get the hang of flashing stuff and go through the initial process of botching something up and figuring out how to fix it, it becomes second nature and quite fun. Welcome to the unlocked world!
P.s. Nil's business gingersense and scott's roms are great for beginners. I suggest Nil's if you want a little bit of theming and scott's if you want more basic functionality. Stick with gingerbread for now, although the ICS roms that are out there are good enough to be daily drivers and I did run them for over a month, they do have their little kinks still.
Quit discouraging ICS roms. I haven't been on GB since 2 days after the first leak and aside from bluetooth and the occasional screen flicker, they work fine.
That said, sticking to GB for awhile might be a good idea. There are plenty of people always online here ready to help if you post in the general section. Just make sure to look at stickies and such for help. A good rooting guide written my myself is linked in my signature. It is the most simple of the guides an I have updated it for the newest firmware version.
For me not being unlocked and rooted >>I would say the reason I dont jump right away is not I'm scared or nervous..its the time and effort from going to a fully working phone to a phone that might be buggy to just get just a few perks. Plus not to mention the time it takes to try each ROM out,,gheez that the hard part!!
I personally would do it to get rid of the bloat ware that could be using my battery, What the OP is doing it for? I think the same reason as me. Unless he likes looking forward to the pain like the all of you.
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For me not being unlocked and rooted >>I would say the reason I dont jump right away is not I'm scared or nervous..its the time and effort from going to a fully working phone to a phone that might be buggy to just get just a few perks. Plus not to mention the time it takes to try each ROM out,,gheez that the hard part!!
I personally would do it to get rid of the bloat ware that could be using my battery, What the OP is doing it for? I think the same reason as me. Unless he likes looking forward to the pain like the all of you.
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No pain, no gain. To each his/her own.
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i just got my Rezound on Wednesday... took all about 30 min before i had my Rom Urges, and had to unlock and flash... i haven't stopped trying roms since... i need help with my addiction.. lol
I agree about ICS roms... they are awesome i like them over GB
If you want speed and battery with the stock look mainly, give cleanrom a shot! All the other GBs are themed beautifully and have have a lot of work put into them. I stayed away from ICS because I am OCD on bugs and theme issues such as 4g arrows but it ran very smoothly.
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I've told others in various threads but i'll say it here cause it can't be stressed enough. *learn about flashing kernels aka boot.img*.. I would dare to say 70% of the threads in the Dev forum are cluttered with people who never learned about flashing rom kernels with adb or tools like cleanflash that make it easier. The super-noob guide in the dev section is your best friend.
Most folks are used to the kernel being totally packaged in with the rom zip and once you flash the rom zip you're good to go. That is not the case with this phone. Learn about it and save yourself many headaches.
Well I unlocked my phone and I think it's rooted..so I should stick to GB roms? Is ineffabilis good?
antispiral said:
Well I unlocked my phone and I think it's rooted..so I should stick to GB roms? Is ineffabilis good?
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Ineffabilis is a GREAT GB Rom but to be honest they're all really good.
I think its good to start off with GB because you may run into usability issues with ICS that may cause issues for you. Flashing a GB will help you get your feet wet!
I will like to know how i put recovery mod3 to the galaxy note and which rom should i install that is fast and save battery.....? Im fully rooted
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mallende1 said:
I will like to know how i put recovery mod3 to the galaxy note and which rom should i install that is fast and save battery.....? Im fully rooted
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You want touch CWM....
As far as what ROM...well once you have CWM touch on it....FLASH AWAY FLASH AWAY...
You decide what ROM is best for you...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
Im sorry i know will sound stuped but what i need to touch? ??
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Hold Volume up down and power. Vibrates let go off power few seconds later let go off volume.
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Im sorry i know will sound stuped but what i need to touch? ??
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If you're gonna flash any ROM you will need cwm...see my links...kk
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CM9 is an awesome rom for it
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Twrp2.2 is even better than cwm these days... just made the switch this week myself, and I'm never going back.
As for roms, just read the dev section and pick the one that sounds like it would work best for you. They all have their pluses and minuses, so choosing one for you is kinda silly...
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Im sorry i know will sound stuped but what i need to touch? ??
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Ignore them. You don't want a touch version of CWM to start off with. With the regular version, you can't screw up. There's up, down, and select.
You'll want to start by looking at the stickies in the development section.
When you think your ready....ignore the pull of your beautiful device, and all this gadgety hacker, and do a search for " how to use titanium backup ". Download the app, and do a batch backup of " backup all user apps + system data". This will backup almost everything. Your wifi passwords, your wallpapers, your settings, and even where you are in games and apps (in 99% of cases).
The best money you can currently spend is arguably the pro version, which allows you to do batch restores-- I.e. when you wipe your phone or move to a new ROM, or Update to a new version of the ROM, you can restore all of your apps at once, or even pick and choose them. These apps and settings will be backed up to your SD card, which will be untouched during flashes, rom installs, rooting, etcetera. With the free version, you have to do them one by one. The pro version also let's you backup to BOX.NET, Dropbox, or Google Drive. If you look around you can find a way to get 50 gigs free of Drop box space, the most popular cloud storage service right now. This is a must....if you ever water log your phone, corrupt your SD card, or something else, you'll always have a backup. You can also schedule backups to run while you sleep.
But after a night or two of reading and watching YouTube videos, you can head into the abyss (you'll have our support. Pm me if you need, as I get notifications when someone does....and I'm usually quick to respond).
But just follow these steps until you have Recovery installed, and have made a backup of the whole system (also known as a Nandroid).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586223
After that, I'd recommend Flapjaxx ROM to start off with, because its a little like the Stock ROM, but has additional features that can be installed, or downloaded right from the phone. It also enables tethering.
Read here to freshen up join your terminology, but don't follow these instructions. The other ones seem easier to follow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483113
And lastly, here's FJ's ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664980
A ROM isn't necessary, however, because you can also just root and use the stock one.
On the first thread I posted, you'll want to read up and follow the steps in this order (I recommend the non touch version of clockwork mod so you can understand how the UI works, before you use a version that requires mastering use of the unlit soft keys on the bottom of the phone, and also introduces a couple variables, accidental and non accidental touches. Up and down, and enter are easy enough, and will get you familiar without increasing the chance to screw something up. Theoretically, they're the same. But bear with me.
On the first thread, follow steps:
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And then read the rest of the first thread. The second link I posted will help you decipher the language. Also, I'd spend the first two nights just reading, so you're COMPLETELY familiar with what you want/have to do. There are at least half a dozen flavours or Ice Cream Sandwich out, and you'll want to look in the development section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1496
Last all of the different ROMs, the screenshots, the features, and the comments, to fin what people like. Don't read into the negative comments and the issues too much however, and don't let them discourage you, because most of the issues that people have you'll A) never notice, because yoiull still be learning by the time they're fixed, B) won't bother you because they only involve doing specific things, and C) could be avoided by following the instructions closely.
Lastly, look up YouTube videos.
Search for "root att galaxy note Odin"
"flash PDA Odin"
" how to use clockwork mod"
"How to use titanium backup"
"androidcritics". (This guy does rom reviews on YouTube...he's a little young, but generally is real thorough....find his YouTube channel, and you'll be able to see what the most popular ROMs look like when they're installed and running on our device.
Lastly, if you like a really clean device, consider CM9 as a ROM, which is built from Google's open source code, and is built the way that Google intended android to be....it has no bloat ware (aside from a few must-have apps that our wonderful developers have decided are best used with their ROM), and is built to be customizable. For the moment the non-CM9 ROMs have a larger selection of mods, customization, Widgets, and apps, but CM9 really takes the cake. There are a couple downsides to CM9 though, and if you want me to elaborate, or would like a suggestion on a CM9 ROM (I've used almost every ROM ever made for our device) PM me, and I can come back to this thread, or talk to you in private.
Lastly again: Seriously. Don't be in a rush. Watch a ton of YouTube videos, and each time you do something (make a backup, root, install clockwork mod) read each thread, or watch each video 3 times. Let it sink in overnight, and then read 1 last time to make sure you have all the prerequisite files, and understand all of the steps.
And lastly, lastly, there are something like 4 versions of the galaxy note, including the international one. Ours has specific software. Using other version of the not e's software, or root/ flashing methods WILL brick your device! Everything you need is here, in this branch of the forum (look for i717 in the upper left hand corner before you follow any instructions...only follow instructions from, and watch videos from people who use the term "At&t galaxy note", "rogers galaxy note", or "sgh-i717" (sgh-i717r is the same).
I understand this is a lot, but it's all important. Feel free to ask questions (in the Q&A section of course) and plenty of us will be there to help you. Some people might flame you for not searching, but if the information in those threads that I linked to isn't clear enough, or you need more information, ignore them and ask. Everything you need is in the threads I gave you.
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Jamesyboy good job...you have lots of great points...and great advice....
But don't tell user not to listen to users ideas our suggestions...just do like you did, give advice & suggestion...like the rest of us.... based on yours and others error....
It will fall on the individual to make the call.
Again...great job.
Btw all your suggestions links are on my GNote thread in the Gen section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1740367
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This is the best thread so far!! I've read all the stickies and then some..... Still left me wondering, but that one clears everything up that I had to ask people (and they dont like questions for the most part on here I've noticed)
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This is the best thread so far!! I've read all the stickies and then some..... Still left me wondering, but that one clears everything up that I had to ask people (and they dont like questions for the most part on here I've noticed)
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What thread are you ref to?...
Hey you can always pm me...i may not know it all, and i don't but that's why we have contacts and friends list....to help and learn....that's what XDA is....a learning and providing forum.
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I like this site alot, don't get me wrong, just there's so many ways to accomplish it, there's no "set way" of doing it for a noob, just a million ideas and writeups.
I liked his post because it just said, heres a decent setup, not the best, not the worst (only thing I've ROMed so far, so just my speculation) and heres how you can get it done, play with it, learn, read more and do it again if you find another thing you'd want to try.
BOY THANKS A LOT FOR THIS I WILL CHECK IT OUT AND WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN I START DOING STUFF SO APPARENTLY GALAXY NOTE IS GONNA BE VERY FUN WHEN I START LEARNING TO FLASH
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It is! I lmk if you need help
had an Infuse for about a year. loved it and was suprised as to what i was able to learn. i was actually able to trouble shoot some of other peoples issues. most of it was people not following OP correctly. some of them you would think they were scoring with a girl for the first time in high school. they just plug it in and blow their load.
However, day after thankgsiving AT&T had some incredible deals for a refurbed Note. cant beat $31.
I have been learking here for almost a month and reading as i did on the Infuse. trying to gain the confidence i need to take the leap and root.
one thing i am noticing or think i am noticing.....or maybe i dont understand.
stock rooted? you can root phone but not necessarily have CWM ?
Infuse had an all in one package.
from what i am gathering.....when i flash, do i need to flash rom, modem and kernal on 3 different flashes? trying to peice a package that works best? cant say that i notice in descriptions (as with Infuse) ex ; "Joe Blows ROM
UCLB3 modem
super nuclear kernal with OC/UV
i am sure this is in the Super Everything Thread, but sometimes my brain pan does not absorb everything. thats why i read read read and i will read some more. again responses from the more experience give me confidence.
probably my hugest issue is, it seems no matter what rom i look at the main issue is random reboots or phone just shutting down. to me does this almost negate some benefits of rooting?
everybody said the Infuse was unbrickable? for the most part i beleive that, usually somebody not following directions was the problem. regardless, super easy to unbrick and return to stock.
However, when i hear, Do you have a jig? or sending phone out to have fixed, makes me wonder if the Note bricks easier and harder to unbrick. I know that if I try, i can REALLY eff something up.
dont want to do that.
i know every phone is different and every rom works differently on those phones, so i know not to ask which rom is better for me. if i decide to, i will find which rom I like the best.
my Infuse HAS grown up to be a Note and i am happy to climb aboard this forum
To root this phone you flash a kernel to the stock rom. But to do this you have to flash a replacement recovery, and that is done with a pc using Samsung's software named Odin.
i am familiar with Odin. i have used it on many occasions and am comfortable with that. however even in the reading i have done this is the first i have heard of a "replacement recovery".
this sounds as if flashing the new kernal to the stock rom is what will root the phone?
i thought the tar file is what did this.
i will keep reading until i come up 2 threads or suggestions of rooting that sound as if the process is the same.
dont misunderstand, i am not saying that anybody is wrong. i am sure all of these methods work. again, if i want to i can really screw something up. i am sure some of these different methods are some different terminology. mainly i want to feel confident and have my process firmly embedded in my mind and act it out properly.
check this post out if you want a super easy way to get started...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35499256&postcount=4
Its explained very well here. Step by step
http://rootgalaxynote.com/galaxy-no...y-note-sgh-i717-icsgingerbreadeasiest-method/
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The stock recovery doesn't let you flash anything. So you flash the replacement recovery with Odin. You are replacing the stock with either CWR or TWRP.
Then, using the new recovery you flash the rooted kernel, or any rom you like.
As for your Super Everything Thread .. Here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28040353
Also we have a Stupid Question Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32925977 just in case you have the need.
Welcome to the Note.
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Bubbajoe40356 said:
Also we have a Stupid Question Thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32925977 just in case you have the need.
Welcome to the Note.
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i am sure i will be getting plenty of use out of that one.
appreciate your help. both you and the captain explained it very plainly and simply, eliminating any confusion.
thank you both.actually very similar to Infuse.
now i just have to decide whether i would benefit from it.
hmmmmmm
Installing the recovery is worth the trouble. Besides the romantic flashing, you can change modems, install mods, make a backup.
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Installing the recovery is worth the trouble. Besides the romantic flashing, you can change modems, install mods, make a backup.
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yeah, and i have done all that with the Infuse. other then mods, tweaks and themes, what else did i benefit from?
Infuse was on Froyo and had a multitude of ROMS and interfaces to choose from. GB, ICS and JB. i am already ICS and JB is the only step up. actually with the similarities between the two, how much am i really gaining or what am i changing?
im kind of shopping some ROMS and looking for something to catch my eye. i am not seeing too many differences. i do have a bigger screen though and i did like the tablet mode of PA. only that and CM10 were the only ones that had tablet mode there.
im really not in any hurry and there is the rumor of official JB for the Note, but i know how that went with GB for the Infuse. the pushed it out too quick and had many problems. unofficial releases were more reliable and theming was pretty cool.
once again, i appreciate the input there Ranger.
All this, but no where has it been said that you have indeed a i717 Note. This, I think is how most people find themselves with a brick. Being in the wrong device section of the forum. Trivial and redundant as it sounds no one can afford to get this confused.
:screwy:Never mind, see it now, just had to run my big mouth, didn't I ?:banghead:
BLACKSTAR XI -SGH-I717 xda-developers app SAMSUNG done right
Yeaaaah, ooops. Well there's another use for the Spen and a place to store it.
But you are correct, I have witnessed the destruction of at least ten notes and some S2's by being in the wrong forum.
This is dangerous business.
DO NOT ACCEPT ZV8/ZV6 UPDATE IF YOU STILL WANT ROOT/UNLOCK!!!!
I'm just trying to slow down all the new posts scattered all over about this. And YES this is another useless post.
There is no root for the ZV8/ZV6 update. Here's some info/Changes
Thanks to autoprime.
ZV8
ZV6
If you accept the update, well, you just lost root and every other freedom you had with this phone.
Fixes
There not one yet for ZV8
ZV6
Try this one first. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57180824.
Thanks to @mrj0087
Your only and next option is Flashtool to ZV4. Here
After LGFlashtool , "Stump" (Root), and "Bump" (unlock)
Get those links from Here
Now here's your options:
Follow autoprime's way:
ZV8
ZV6
Or flash these Rom's in TWRP
Stock Rooted ZV8
Stock Rooted ZV6
BarRin Rooted
How to stop OTA's
Go HERE
Until we get Root for ZV8/ZV6 these are your only options. Well, there's always one more. Give up Root, Unlock and run it like LG/Sprint wants. But you wouldn't be here if that were the case.
Wow. I just have to say that I read these forums for hours heeding all warnings and learning how to properly flash, root, etc. before I even touch my phone. To see these guys attempt these procedures on a 600 dollar phone without thoroughly understanding what they are doing simply amazes me. I will shut up now. Thanks for all you guys do to make my phone awesome! :thumbup:
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I'm glad I went ahead and flashed the rooted zv6.
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texasjmzmd said:
Wow. I just have to say that I read these forums for hours heeding all warnings and learning how to properly flash, root, etc. before I even touch my phone. To see these guys attempt these procedures on a 600 dollar phone without thoroughly understanding what they are doing simply amazes me. I will shut up now. Thanks for all you guys do to make my phone awesome! :thumbup:
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If u look at user's stats near their avatar, almost always the ones who are asking how to do this and that and how to "unscrew" up their phones are members that have less than 50 posts. I think they hear about XDA and come here thinking that everything posted is guaranteed or side effect free. These phones are like our bodies... you mess with one thing and it affects something else. I've been around since 08 and seen more and more rookies flashing firmware to their shiny new 600 dollar phones with no regret until after they screw it up. No disrespect to the newbies, but for goodness sake read up and read up and read up until u fully understand what u are doing. Us older members are here to help but we can't fix ignorance.
I gotta say, most of the time I agree that it's just common sense to not take an OTA if you are already rooted. At the same time, I was surprised by how much I didn't know when I started veering out of my "home base" forums.
I had an HTC Evo 4G and then a 4G LTE for 4 years combined, right up until this summer when I got the G3. At the same time, I got my wife off of her iPhone (came from a Hero) and into an S4. It took me a while to get up to speed with the G3, but at least that was a new community. I STILL don't know very much about the S4 - what ROMs are good/stable/updated regularly, what the different root/unlock procedures are, which methods do or don't mess with Knox (or even what that heck that is). I'm slowly learning, but I just don't spend as much time over there. I just wanted to get my wife's phone rooted so I could clear the bloat and get a few root apps running for her.
If you don't spend a lot of time learning the ropes, it can be hard coming in knowing a little bit about what you want (root or whatever) and then finding out that your OTA isn't rooted yet, or that there's trouble brewing between developers which is hampering development in some way, or whatever the case may be. Add to that the fact that there are really different "customs" in different phone forums, and the terminology is phone-specific at times, and new members are bound to get lost somewhere along the way.
I don't know what my point is, other than that I've never seen a community get stronger through flaming and ignoring new users' requests for help. At the very least, I'm a fan of polite replies, even if it's just to say "you're posting in the wrong forum - try the Q&A section / look for Sticky XYZ" or what have you. @engine95 is on the right track by putting up these sort of informational posts BEFORE problems arise. They'll still happen, but this can stem the tide.
kind of a stupid question I guess but I've been out of the loop for a couple years...
If I root and flash the rooted ZV6, will I have to reinstall all my apps? I used to use some sort of backup app but it was still tedious...
cardboardbox said:
kind of a stupid question I guess but I've been out of the loop for a couple years...
If I root and flash the rooted ZV6, will I have to reinstall all my apps? I used to use some sort of backup app but it was still tedious...
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No worries. The kernel and a lot of the apks are different in ZV6, so I would highly recommend starting from scratch.
If you restore anything from backup from ZV4, you'll probably end up with issues.
LG/Sprint has really done some very strange things with this update. They say to optimize, but I think it's more so we can't modify it as easily.
cardboardbox said:
kind of a stupid question I guess but I've been out of the loop for a couple years...
If I root and flash the rooted ZV6, will I have to reinstall all my apps? I used to use some sort of backup app but it was still tedious...
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I recommend doing a clean flash (wiping). It's a lot of work putting back all your apps and such, but it's worth it to have NO GLITCHES and everything working right.
engine95 said:
No worries. The kernel and a lot of the apks are different in ZV6, so I would highly recommend starting from scratch.
If you restore anything from backup from ZV4, you'll probably end up with issues.
LG/Sprint has really done some very strange things with this update. They say to optimize, but I think it's more so we can't modify it as easily.
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I recommend doing a clean flash (wiping). It's a lot of work putting back all your apps and such, but it's worth it to have NO GLITCHES and everything working right.
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thanks for the replies. Is updating to ZV6 a good idea or should I wait for Lollipop? Hate to redo all my apps for ZV6 and then have to do it again a month later.
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kind of a stupid question I guess but I've been out of the loop for a couple years...
If I root and flash the rooted ZV6, will I have to reinstall all my apps? I used to use some sort of backup app but it was still tedious...
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thanks for the replies. Is updating to ZV6 a good idea or should I wait for Lollipop? Hate to redo all my apps for ZV6 and then have to do it again a month later.
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If you're asking me, I say it's worth it. Everything works (to my knowledge) on this ROM. The new ROMS coming out (including lollipop 5.0) now for our LS990 have lots of glitches that need to be ironed out still. This ROM is the latest and has everything working and is awesome as a daily driver. It's going to be a while as the developers and testers get all the kinks out of the 5.0 ROM that is out now. Just my simple opinion. Also I love XPOSED and right now xposed only works on KITKAT and not LOLLIPOP (so far).
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If you're asking me, I say it's worth it. Everything works (to my knowledge) on this ROM. The new ROMS coming out (including lollipop 5.0) now for our LS990 have lots of glitches that need to be ironed out still. This ROM is the latest and has everything working and is awesome as a daily driver. It's going to be a while as the developers and testers get all the kinks out of the 5.0 ROM that is out now. Just my simple opinion. Also I love XPOSED and right now xposed only works on KITKAT and not LOLLIPOP (so far).
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thanks, I'll get to work on it sometime this weekend.
Yeah I read for a good week or two before stump, another week before bump, after a nandroid xposed and all it's glory, no issues I've been doing this for the last four years and still read and follow instructions very carefully and ask questions, I just read a thread where a recognized contributor needed help with a soft brick, I'm running his theme, I can't afford to afford another phone, I still consider my self a noob 7 smartphones in plus I don't have a computer right now. Question is there any stable 5.0 builds
I think it depends on how you define stable.
Stable as in not crashing all the time? Yes, I think so.
Stable as in all features working? I think not.
meyerweb said:
I think it depends on how you define stable.
Stable as in not crashing all the time? Yes, I think so.
Stable as in all features working? I think not.
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All features working
I'll wait for an official sprint build
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All features working
I'll wait for an official sprint build
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Me, too. Or at least until the AOSP-based ROMs get past the alpha & beta stages.
Dammit I wish I had read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916085
Terminal command in twrp no computer required if stuck in twrp loop just did it and was able to boot back up
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Prepare. Seems everyone has let that zv6 update sitting on their device get the best of them. Lol. Time to help. Thanks e95 I'll send them here. A few. Lol
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Thank you for this guide, restoring my device to re-obtain root wasn't difficult just very tedious! My fault though, I for some reason thought the OTA was a radio update. I worked 70 hours this last week so I wasn't thinking clearly lol.
Added an option to fix taking OTA.
Thanks to @mrj0087