DO NOT ACCEPT ZV8/ZV6 UPDATE IF YOU STILL WANT ROOT/UNLOCK!!!!
I'm just trying to slow down all the new posts scattered all over about this. And YES this is another useless post.
There is no root for the ZV8/ZV6 update. Here's some info/Changes
Thanks to autoprime.
ZV8
ZV6
If you accept the update, well, you just lost root and every other freedom you had with this phone.
Fixes
There not one yet for ZV8
ZV6
Try this one first. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57180824.
Thanks to @mrj0087
Your only and next option is Flashtool to ZV4. Here
After LGFlashtool , "Stump" (Root), and "Bump" (unlock)
Get those links from Here
Now here's your options:
Follow autoprime's way:
ZV8
ZV6
Or flash these Rom's in TWRP
Stock Rooted ZV8
Stock Rooted ZV6
BarRin Rooted
How to stop OTA's
Go HERE
Until we get Root for ZV8/ZV6 these are your only options. Well, there's always one more. Give up Root, Unlock and run it like LG/Sprint wants. But you wouldn't be here if that were the case.
Wow. I just have to say that I read these forums for hours heeding all warnings and learning how to properly flash, root, etc. before I even touch my phone. To see these guys attempt these procedures on a 600 dollar phone without thoroughly understanding what they are doing simply amazes me. I will shut up now. Thanks for all you guys do to make my phone awesome! :thumbup:
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I'm glad I went ahead and flashed the rooted zv6.
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texasjmzmd said:
Wow. I just have to say that I read these forums for hours heeding all warnings and learning how to properly flash, root, etc. before I even touch my phone. To see these guys attempt these procedures on a 600 dollar phone without thoroughly understanding what they are doing simply amazes me. I will shut up now. Thanks for all you guys do to make my phone awesome! :thumbup:
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If u look at user's stats near their avatar, almost always the ones who are asking how to do this and that and how to "unscrew" up their phones are members that have less than 50 posts. I think they hear about XDA and come here thinking that everything posted is guaranteed or side effect free. These phones are like our bodies... you mess with one thing and it affects something else. I've been around since 08 and seen more and more rookies flashing firmware to their shiny new 600 dollar phones with no regret until after they screw it up. No disrespect to the newbies, but for goodness sake read up and read up and read up until u fully understand what u are doing. Us older members are here to help but we can't fix ignorance.
I gotta say, most of the time I agree that it's just common sense to not take an OTA if you are already rooted. At the same time, I was surprised by how much I didn't know when I started veering out of my "home base" forums.
I had an HTC Evo 4G and then a 4G LTE for 4 years combined, right up until this summer when I got the G3. At the same time, I got my wife off of her iPhone (came from a Hero) and into an S4. It took me a while to get up to speed with the G3, but at least that was a new community. I STILL don't know very much about the S4 - what ROMs are good/stable/updated regularly, what the different root/unlock procedures are, which methods do or don't mess with Knox (or even what that heck that is). I'm slowly learning, but I just don't spend as much time over there. I just wanted to get my wife's phone rooted so I could clear the bloat and get a few root apps running for her.
If you don't spend a lot of time learning the ropes, it can be hard coming in knowing a little bit about what you want (root or whatever) and then finding out that your OTA isn't rooted yet, or that there's trouble brewing between developers which is hampering development in some way, or whatever the case may be. Add to that the fact that there are really different "customs" in different phone forums, and the terminology is phone-specific at times, and new members are bound to get lost somewhere along the way.
I don't know what my point is, other than that I've never seen a community get stronger through flaming and ignoring new users' requests for help. At the very least, I'm a fan of polite replies, even if it's just to say "you're posting in the wrong forum - try the Q&A section / look for Sticky XYZ" or what have you. @engine95 is on the right track by putting up these sort of informational posts BEFORE problems arise. They'll still happen, but this can stem the tide.
kind of a stupid question I guess but I've been out of the loop for a couple years...
If I root and flash the rooted ZV6, will I have to reinstall all my apps? I used to use some sort of backup app but it was still tedious...
cardboardbox said:
kind of a stupid question I guess but I've been out of the loop for a couple years...
If I root and flash the rooted ZV6, will I have to reinstall all my apps? I used to use some sort of backup app but it was still tedious...
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No worries. The kernel and a lot of the apks are different in ZV6, so I would highly recommend starting from scratch.
If you restore anything from backup from ZV4, you'll probably end up with issues.
LG/Sprint has really done some very strange things with this update. They say to optimize, but I think it's more so we can't modify it as easily.
cardboardbox said:
kind of a stupid question I guess but I've been out of the loop for a couple years...
If I root and flash the rooted ZV6, will I have to reinstall all my apps? I used to use some sort of backup app but it was still tedious...
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I recommend doing a clean flash (wiping). It's a lot of work putting back all your apps and such, but it's worth it to have NO GLITCHES and everything working right.
engine95 said:
No worries. The kernel and a lot of the apks are different in ZV6, so I would highly recommend starting from scratch.
If you restore anything from backup from ZV4, you'll probably end up with issues.
LG/Sprint has really done some very strange things with this update. They say to optimize, but I think it's more so we can't modify it as easily.
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I recommend doing a clean flash (wiping). It's a lot of work putting back all your apps and such, but it's worth it to have NO GLITCHES and everything working right.
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thanks for the replies. Is updating to ZV6 a good idea or should I wait for Lollipop? Hate to redo all my apps for ZV6 and then have to do it again a month later.
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kind of a stupid question I guess but I've been out of the loop for a couple years...
If I root and flash the rooted ZV6, will I have to reinstall all my apps? I used to use some sort of backup app but it was still tedious...
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thanks for the replies. Is updating to ZV6 a good idea or should I wait for Lollipop? Hate to redo all my apps for ZV6 and then have to do it again a month later.
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If you're asking me, I say it's worth it. Everything works (to my knowledge) on this ROM. The new ROMS coming out (including lollipop 5.0) now for our LS990 have lots of glitches that need to be ironed out still. This ROM is the latest and has everything working and is awesome as a daily driver. It's going to be a while as the developers and testers get all the kinks out of the 5.0 ROM that is out now. Just my simple opinion. Also I love XPOSED and right now xposed only works on KITKAT and not LOLLIPOP (so far).
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If you're asking me, I say it's worth it. Everything works (to my knowledge) on this ROM. The new ROMS coming out (including lollipop 5.0) now for our LS990 have lots of glitches that need to be ironed out still. This ROM is the latest and has everything working and is awesome as a daily driver. It's going to be a while as the developers and testers get all the kinks out of the 5.0 ROM that is out now. Just my simple opinion. Also I love XPOSED and right now xposed only works on KITKAT and not LOLLIPOP (so far).
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thanks, I'll get to work on it sometime this weekend.
Yeah I read for a good week or two before stump, another week before bump, after a nandroid xposed and all it's glory, no issues I've been doing this for the last four years and still read and follow instructions very carefully and ask questions, I just read a thread where a recognized contributor needed help with a soft brick, I'm running his theme, I can't afford to afford another phone, I still consider my self a noob 7 smartphones in plus I don't have a computer right now. Question is there any stable 5.0 builds
I think it depends on how you define stable.
Stable as in not crashing all the time? Yes, I think so.
Stable as in all features working? I think not.
meyerweb said:
I think it depends on how you define stable.
Stable as in not crashing all the time? Yes, I think so.
Stable as in all features working? I think not.
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All features working
I'll wait for an official sprint build
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All features working
I'll wait for an official sprint build
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Me, too. Or at least until the AOSP-based ROMs get past the alpha & beta stages.
Dammit I wish I had read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916085
Terminal command in twrp no computer required if stuck in twrp loop just did it and was able to boot back up
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Prepare. Seems everyone has let that zv6 update sitting on their device get the best of them. Lol. Time to help. Thanks e95 I'll send them here. A few. Lol
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Thank you for this guide, restoring my device to re-obtain root wasn't difficult just very tedious! My fault though, I for some reason thought the OTA was a radio update. I worked 70 hours this last week so I wasn't thinking clearly lol.
Added an option to fix taking OTA.
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I will finally be unlocking my rezound once I get home from school .... I'm so nervous I will brick it lol. Can someone suggest a noob friendly Rom to get started that has full functionality..I would like WiFi tether to work in infrastructure mode ..since I'm getting the vita next week. I know this question has been beaten to death but there were a lot of different threads with like different opinions and it would be easier if it is all just in this one thread for me. Thanks
I still have a stock Unrooted Rezound also..Will be watching this thread..so let me know your ups and downs..I might do this as well.
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I will finally be unlocking my rezound once I get home from school .... I'm so nervous I will brick it lol. Can someone suggest a noob friendly Rom to get started that has full functionality..I would like WiFi tether to work in infrastructure mode ..since I'm getting the vita next week. I know this question has been beaten to death but there were a lot of different threads with like different opinions and it would be easier if it is all just in this one thread for me. Thanks
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I really would stick to just rooted and debloated stock for now. If you reallly want a custom rom I think Scott's Clean rom's run well or Nil's business sense rom's just make sure you are downloading the Gingerbread versions. Make sure you read the threads to see about tethering since that is something i have never done so never paid attention to what works or doesn't with tethering.
P.S. unlocking is extremely easy, just follow the directions on the HTCdev site precisely and you will not have an issue. Also I would definately suggest sticking with Amon Ra for your recovery seems to have the least trouble right now. Clockwork official is really new to the rezound and I still seem to read threads that people have trouble with backups or restoring backups and sometimes even installing roms using it.
Stick to GB for now.
Read the threads and find out which one suites you best. Everyone has different tastes. Do your homework and you won't have problems.
To answer the question about tethering...the only infrastructure tethering to be found is on an ICS ROM. Unfortunately that's not "noob" friendly.
Yes- definitely read the entire threads of any ROMs you are considering so you will know what to expect as far as bugs and known issues.
Stick with Amon Ra recovery. There's an update coming with a fix if it's not already posted.
GB ROMs have ad-hoc tethering. ICS have infrastructure. But ICS ROMs are not fly functional so again- read entire threads to know what you're getting into.
I really like Ineffabilis GB. I would probably just use it with stock kernel though. I'm not seeing a benefit to using dsb although maybe I just need to play with CPU settings more.
This is my first smartphone and something that's really helped me is keeping a text file with notes on how to do everything so I don't have to search for info again when I need it. Also gathers lots of info from various threads in one place and makes it easier to learn everything. Seems it's quite different on this phone since it is still s-on.
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Yes- definitely read the entire threads of any ROMs you are considering so you will know what to expect as far as bugs and known issues.
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This ^^^^^ would be the most important advice you can get. Read, read, read.
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i dont understand why people are soo scared... its highly unlikely you will brick your phone... but if you can follow direction then you will be fine
yojoe600 said:
i dont understand why people are soo scared... its highly unlikely you will brick your phone... but if you can follow direction then you will be fine
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I think uncomfortable would be more appropriate. It's just something new to this person, and that would be a normal reaction.
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trickster2369 said:
I think uncomfortable would be more appropriate. It's just something new to this person, and that would be a normal reaction.
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Yeah, and a nervous excitement. I was fortunate that WasabiWa83 offered to stand by in chat in case anything went wrong. And a week or so later when I was reflashing a ROM and the phone gave me an error message in the middle of flashing saying it couldn't read my ext sd card I got stuck on the HTC splash screen and I didn't even panic, just went through the steps I had read about and all was good again.
So as long as you read and learn, once you've gone through everything you get comfortable since you know there's a way out of any trouble you may encounter.
Unlocking is simple and easy. Don't worry about bricking the phone man. I owned an Incredible before my Rezound and installed ROMs, radios, kernels, splash screens, you name it and never had a problem. Once you get the hang of flashing stuff and go through the initial process of botching something up and figuring out how to fix it, it becomes second nature and quite fun. Welcome to the unlocked world!
P.s. Nil's business gingersense and scott's roms are great for beginners. I suggest Nil's if you want a little bit of theming and scott's if you want more basic functionality. Stick with gingerbread for now, although the ICS roms that are out there are good enough to be daily drivers and I did run them for over a month, they do have their little kinks still.
Quit discouraging ICS roms. I haven't been on GB since 2 days after the first leak and aside from bluetooth and the occasional screen flicker, they work fine.
That said, sticking to GB for awhile might be a good idea. There are plenty of people always online here ready to help if you post in the general section. Just make sure to look at stickies and such for help. A good rooting guide written my myself is linked in my signature. It is the most simple of the guides an I have updated it for the newest firmware version.
For me not being unlocked and rooted >>I would say the reason I dont jump right away is not I'm scared or nervous..its the time and effort from going to a fully working phone to a phone that might be buggy to just get just a few perks. Plus not to mention the time it takes to try each ROM out,,gheez that the hard part!!
I personally would do it to get rid of the bloat ware that could be using my battery, What the OP is doing it for? I think the same reason as me. Unless he likes looking forward to the pain like the all of you.
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For me not being unlocked and rooted >>I would say the reason I dont jump right away is not I'm scared or nervous..its the time and effort from going to a fully working phone to a phone that might be buggy to just get just a few perks. Plus not to mention the time it takes to try each ROM out,,gheez that the hard part!!
I personally would do it to get rid of the bloat ware that could be using my battery, What the OP is doing it for? I think the same reason as me. Unless he likes looking forward to the pain like the all of you.
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No pain, no gain. To each his/her own.
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i just got my Rezound on Wednesday... took all about 30 min before i had my Rom Urges, and had to unlock and flash... i haven't stopped trying roms since... i need help with my addiction.. lol
I agree about ICS roms... they are awesome i like them over GB
If you want speed and battery with the stock look mainly, give cleanrom a shot! All the other GBs are themed beautifully and have have a lot of work put into them. I stayed away from ICS because I am OCD on bugs and theme issues such as 4g arrows but it ran very smoothly.
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I've told others in various threads but i'll say it here cause it can't be stressed enough. *learn about flashing kernels aka boot.img*.. I would dare to say 70% of the threads in the Dev forum are cluttered with people who never learned about flashing rom kernels with adb or tools like cleanflash that make it easier. The super-noob guide in the dev section is your best friend.
Most folks are used to the kernel being totally packaged in with the rom zip and once you flash the rom zip you're good to go. That is not the case with this phone. Learn about it and save yourself many headaches.
Well I unlocked my phone and I think it's rooted..so I should stick to GB roms? Is ineffabilis good?
antispiral said:
Well I unlocked my phone and I think it's rooted..so I should stick to GB roms? Is ineffabilis good?
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Ineffabilis is a GREAT GB Rom but to be honest they're all really good.
I think its good to start off with GB because you may run into usability issues with ICS that may cause issues for you. Flashing a GB will help you get your feet wet!
Hello everyone I am new to Android world as of today. I've been on iPhone for the past 2 years and honestly apple has nothing compared to Android. My galaxy note is like a handheld computer... like holy s**t I'm so overwhelmed right now. But as a noobie I do have a couple questions...
Is it worth rooting and flashing a custom ics ROM (what's the best ics ROM to date) when my service provider Telus is releasing ics by early July?
Also, is it possible for me to download the official ics via ota with a rooted phone? If so how do I do that. I've read threads that sometimes rooting disables ota download.
Thanks for looking and I apologize for being a dumba**.
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Are you new to android? Then experience your android phone as it is without rooting just yet. As you experience your phone and read some threads you will get to know if rooting is for you or not. This also will allow you to see if your phone may have issues.
If you want the OTA Telus ICS then I suggest you don't root. I don't believe you would receive the OTA unless you were stock unrooted. So my suggestion would be to hang in there for a little time.
Welcome, and congratulations on seeing the light!
The ICS roms we have are awesome so far, with only a couple random bugs that don't keep them from being daily drivers. I definitely recommend rooting and romming if you take the time to read up on everything you can about it. It's a very simple process if you take your time, and definitely worth learning.
Also, if you feel like doing the official update get familiar with how to go back to stock. When you go back to stock, it renews your warranty and also your ability to receive official firmware updates.
Personally, I think that custom roms are better than official, and once your official is released, you will be able to get a rooted version on here within a day out two at most usually. The only time my Samsung phones have ever had stock software is the first and only the first day I have them, and also if I need to do a warranty exchange
Edit: not seeing a stock package for Telus, stop I would hold on for a bit or try to work with a developer to get them what they need to set up a stock Odin package for Telus users.
Second edit: actually it looks like there is a stock package for you. I can help more with some links later, but can't right now
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Welcome to the best phone world you can imagine and you made a wise choice to pick up the big boss aka the G note...youll love it stock or rooted and with customs roms on it....this community is the best and has some great devs also any rom you choose your gonna love their rom believe me....Ive been to here and went to the htc one x and to the international note and now im back to stay....those other phones couldnt compare to this one...the international note is brick heaven and the htc one x is just too damn small when your coming from a note lol....but if you love having your phone tweaked out like me then yes root and rom it out lol...but if all that doesnt matter than you can stay stock and still love the phone just as much....but once again wise choice on the phone and glad to have you here....
Please make yourself familiar with the phone first like everybody else suggested. I have gone through few android phones and I still have so much to learn especially when it comes to rooting and loading roms. With samsung, there's a flash counter if you care about warranty and what not even though there are ways to go around it. I have rooted mine but staying on the stock rom and waiting for the official ICS rom. GB rom is perfectly working fine for my needs.
Please read and read over and over everything before you go ahead and mess around with the rom.
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Please make yourself familiar with the phone first like everybody else suggested. I have gone through few android phones and I still have so much to learn especially when it comes to rooting and loading roms. With samsung, there's a flash counter if you care about warranty and what not even though there are ways to go around it. I have rooted mine but staying on the stock rom and waiting for the official ICS rom. GB rom is perfectly working fine for my needs.
Please read and read over and over everything before you go ahead and mess around with the rom.
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There is a flash counter reset, so that's basically a null point. Plus, many people have had no problem returning or exchanging with it tripped.
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Yes. I know there is. That's why I said there are ways to go around. I have rooted mine with the one roloracer posted and can use CWM to flash all different roms without even tripping the flash counter to begin with. One less step of needing to reset the counter.
I just want OP to be aware of it.
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Yes. I know there is. That's why I said there are ways to go around. I have rooted mine with the one roloracer posted and can use CWM to flash all different roms without even tripping the flash counter to begin with. One less step of needing to reset the counter.
I just want OP to be aware of it.
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Ah, I forgot flashing from cwm doesn't up the counter. Good point.
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Wow you guys have been really helpful thank you very much
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No problem. Here's a good guide for you to read. Just read everything you can before doing anything and you'll soon be unleashing the beast they call the galaxy note.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586223
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Welcome Android! The Note is my first Android phone. I also came from iPhone and don't regret the move at all. Note is the best overall phone experience I've had.
This is sort of on topic, is there a comparison thread of the different roms and what they have to offer vs. others? That kind of thread might be really helpful for new and seasoned pros.
cmunho said:
Welcome Android! The Note is my first Android phone. I also came from iPhone and don't regret the move at all. Note is the best overall phone experience I've had.
This is sort of on topic, is there a comparison thread of the different roms and what they have to offer vs. others? That kind of thread might be really helpful for new and seasoned pros.
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pretty much the only diff in roms are
CM9 & AOKP have all the bell & whistles ...such as tweaks and etc...
the others are stock based with addition add ons...either way you gonna love it...we have awesome devs in this community...as youll soon see....and glad to have you in the note community...
CM9 is Android at it's best.
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CM9 is Android at it's best.
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I agree coffin but that im leaning toward aokp...love it lol....but both are amazing...
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pretty much the only diff in roms are
CM9 & AOKP have all the bell & whistles ...such as tweaks and etc...
the others are stock based with addition add ons...either way you gonna love it...we have awesome devs in this community...as youll soon see....and glad to have you in the note community...
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just know that you will lose a lot of the S-pen and all Touchwiz capabilities if/when you go with any version of cm9, aokp, or aosp.
I'd stock with GB for a few weeks so you can get used to the menu interfaces and lingo surrounding Android. After that, game on!
Welcome to Android, friend.
Normally, when I first buy a phone, I like to play around with it stock for a few months before flashing the radio or switching roms etc. Just to get familiar with the phone. Since you're new to the whole Android platform, you should definitely get used to it first since there are endless possibilities you can play around with even with a stock rom.
An official ICS 4.0.3 has already been confirmed for release, why not wait for it? An official update will always be 100% safer and run a lot smoother.
This is what I recommend and I am going to be patiently waiting for the ICS 4.0 to officially be released. It's just a matter of time.
How many times have we seen a user new to android/note that root, flash, and ATTEMPT to reset the flash counter only to come to this board crying that their phone is bricked? (one or two a month?)
As others said, if you root/flash, when Ice Cream Sandwich becomes available from your carrier, you will not get it.
If you do root/flash, DON'T worry about the flash counter because if something goes wrong with reseting the flash counter, you might have a brick but most likely several hours of panic/frustration trying to get your phone working.
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How many times have we seen a user new to android/note that root, flash, and ATTEMPT to reset the flash counter only to come to this board crying that their phone is bricked? (one or two a month?)
As others said, if you root/flash, when Ice Cream Sandwich becomes available from your carrier, you will not get it.
If you do root/flash, DON'T worry about the flash counter because if something goes wrong with reseting the flash counter, you might have a brick but most likely several hours of panic/frustration trying to get your phone working.
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Its more so a new user to xda thing as I see it. Yes, its partially a new to android thing, but if they learned how to search and read and learn everything they can, all of the info is out there to safely do anything. I had one brick way back when with my captivate, and from that point on I made sure to read as much as possible before doing anything. New users think they will just have everything handed to them and it will work perfectly, which is where they run into problems because they don't know of all the common problems and mistakes due to taking the fast track instead of actually learning about the processes.
Bottom line is they need to not only search and read, but also absorb and understand the material that is available on this site.
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Its more so a new user to xda thing as I see it. Yes, its partially a new to android thing, but if they learned how to search and read and learn everything they can, all of the info is out there to safely do anything. I had one brick way back when with my captivate, and from that point on I made sure to read as much as possible before doing anything. New users think they will just have everything handed to them and it will work perfectly, which is where they run into problems because they don't know of all the common problems and mistakes due to taking the fast track instead of actually learning about the processes.
Bottom line is they need to not only search and read, but also absorb and understand the material that is available on this site.
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Perfectly said!
The more a user reads and researches the less cluttering threads we have and the more they learn
Which the MAJORITY of people here don't do..
Sad.. truly sad but let them brick their devices as a consequence lol
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My advise would be to wait at least a month, do your research, stay on top of the forums, read all the important threads, etc. When I moved over from iPhone I waited about a month and even though it is soooo much easier to root an Android then jailbreaking an iPhone, its just means its that much more easier to make mistakes. Take your time, don't rush it Welcome to the dark side.
Hello, I was just wanting to get a few things verified before I flashed my first rom. I have been following these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2006946
Where it says to root, then unlock the bootloader. First 2 are checked. so no problem there
3rd step it talks about using CWM but when i was running the app that the instructions suggested, the app suggested to install TWRP so that's what I did. So then i rebooted into twrp and said "backup" and checked everything so that it backs up all my data. Is that what is considered a nandroid backup? and so from there I'm safe.
Also I had titanium and said to backup up everything and anything from there as well. So both of those will be uploaded to my box account along with remaining in my PC.
Also for good measure, I plugged in my phone, opened explorer and just copied everything within the internal storage and sd card so that I have those too. Not sure if they will be useable at all but figured why not.
So would I have put myself in a good position such that if I mess up later on, I can revert back to the way I am right now?
TWRP just doesn't call it a nandroid back up like CWM when it's finished backing up so as long as TWRP finished successfully you're fine. The only current ROM I knlw of right now that doesn't flash with TWRP is the Korean JB port and that is stated in bold red letters in the OP so you can flash away in my opinion. Looks like you have it all covered.
As a side note I have had three different LG devices and honestly find them near impossible to permanently brick. LGNPST became one of my best friends a long time ago and his brother QPST as well, lol.
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TWRP just doesn't call it a nandroid back up like CWM when it's finished backing up so as long as TWRP finished successfully you're fine. The only current ROM I knlw of right now that doesn't flash with TWRP is the Korean JB port and that is stated in bold red letters in the OP so you can flash away in my opinion. Looks like you have it all covered.
As a side note I have had three different LG devices and honestly find them near impossible to permanently brick. LGNPST became one of my best friends a long time ago and his brother QPST as well, lol.
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Ahh okay thanks. I didn't realize that nandroid was just CWM terminology. Good to know I was doing everything right. And I wasn't looking for Korean JB.
Oh good to know. I will have to mess with LGNPST just to make sure I can do everything properly incase I ever need to actually do it. Good to hear it's pretty reliable and thanks again.
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Ahh okay thanks. I didn't realize that nandroid was just CWM terminology. Good to know I was doing everything right. And I wasn't looking for Korean JB.
Oh good to know. I will have to mess with LGNPST just to make sure I can do everything properly incase I ever need to actually do it. Good to hear it's pretty reliable and thanks again.
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Good to see your trying to cover all your bases. Don't over complicate things for yourself, though. As long as your simply flashing roms built for your device and following directions you'll be ok. You're bound to run into a few hiccups if you get the bug, like most of us have, and start flashing everything you can. But no worries, there's always a way to fix.
Also, since your brand new to this stuff, read up on the threads and give them a few days before flashing Anything. Let some of the more experienced guys test them out and leave feedback.
Have fun!
Edit: one last thing, TiBu is more hassle free if you only use it for app + data, as opposed to, system data.
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Also, if you are using the recovery installed by FreeGee, I'd update to a more current one found in the development thread. The first couple were a little glitchy.
Edit: great advice from Tango above. They usually recommend to never restore system data. It will render your phone's ROM FUBAR more often than not.
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TangoXray said:
Good to see your trying to cover all your bases. Don't over complicate things for yourself, though. As long as your simply flashing roms built for your device and following directions you'll be ok. You're bound to run into a few hiccups if you get the bug, like most of us have, and start flashing everything you can. But no worries, there's always a way to fix.
Also, since your brand new to this stuff, read up on the threads and give them a few days before flashing Anything. Let some of the more experienced guys test them out and leave feedback.
Have fun!
Edit: one last thing, TiBu is more hassle free if you only use it for app + data, as opposed to, system data.
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Okay thanks. Honestly, I'm not too concerned about my apps and data. I was really just doing everything so that I can get a working phone again quickly if I end up breaking something. I don't expect to be changing too often, I'm waiting for slick rom v4 to come out, then a few days after I'll be flashing my phone. I was just wanting to get everything ready now incase I run into anything unexpected I dont' rush it due to wanting to try the rom.
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Also, if you are using the recovery installed by FreeGee, I'd update to a more current one found in the development thread. The first couple were a little glitchy.
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Uh...I used FreeGee from the app store, so whatever that one installs. Good to know it is out of date. I'll go check out the new version and try to get that one installed.
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Bleh I need to wait 5 minutes between posts and edits.
Well it looks like my TWRP is v2.3.2.3 which seems to be the neweest version (although really old 11/28/12)
Also I suppose I should run TiBu with app+data only if using system data causes such big problems. Thanks for the warning guys.
Just remember one of the most important things to do is read, read and read again when you first start out. There's also plenty of help here as long as you are respectful and ask in a detailed intelligent manner.
This is one of the best communities on XDA imo. Great people and devs.
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This is one of the best communities on XDA imo. Great people and devs.
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It seems most of the usual jerks you'd find don't have the patience to wait for the JB source to come along, so don't use this phone. Lets hope that they don't start flocking here now that we've got it. :laugh:
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It seems most of the usual jerks you'd find don't have the patience to wait for the JB source to come along, so don't use this phone. Lets hope that they don't start flocking here now that we've got it. :laugh:
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insanecrane said:
Just remember one of the most important things to do is read, read and read again when you first start out. There's also plenty of help here as long as you are respectful and ask in a detailed intelligent manner.
This is one of the best communities on XDA imo. Great people and devs.
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Reading. Yes. I enjoy learning and understanding (what I actually can) about what is going on. I got this phone the week it came out and have been waiting and watching while the community develops. It feels okay now to be jumping on board. I had to learn quite a bit coming from iOS. I jailbroke it and used mods but I'm just a user not a developer. So really wanted to learn all the safety precautions for android.
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It seems most of the usual jerks you'd find don't have the patience to wait for the JB source to come along, so don't use this phone. Lets hope that they don't start flocking here now that we've got it. :laugh:
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I was worried about posting my question and people just flaming me. But I definitely appreciate the help that has been offered. Makes me feel a lot more comfortable getting this done, that if something does go wrong I have somewhere I can turn to.
Just got the OTA update popup. Have looked around and it seems like user impressions are generally pretty favorable so far.
Aside from the update breaking root access (I'm staying stock, so not a deal-breaker for me), has anyone found any fatal flaws (app incompatibility, data loss/corruption, etc.) that might be a reason to NOT install the update?
Right now, there is a work around the b loader to gain root. If u take the update, you winn not be able to root as u know.
That might not mean much to you right now. But let's say you see something like the expanded mini menu, and you want it. Well, you won't be able to root and install Xposed.apk after taking the ota until an exploit is discovered.
Leave the update to the rubes who are less then passionate about the freedom we have or ota.
Btw, apps to sd is any able to move the apk to sd but not the working app and it's data.
See below the pick of the expanded mini menu...
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Just got the OTA update popup. Have looked around and it seems like user impressions are generally pretty favorable so far.
Aside from the update breaking root access (I'm staying stock, so not a deal-breaker for me), has anyone found any fatal flaws (app incompatibility, data loss/corruption, etc.) that might be a reason to NOT install the update?
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I'd go for it if you don't care about root access. My wife installed it and it seems to be just fine... Maybe even a bit smoother than before but that's probably placebo
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If you don't care about root then do it. I've heard it fixes a lot of the lag. That alone would make me do it.
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If you don't care about root then do it. I've heard it fixes a lot of the lag. That alone would make me do it.
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Lag reduction wasn't thst noticeable but the improvement is there. Smearing is gone which is good. Notification bar has a new affect I like. Few new icons. I like it but not enough to take the OTA on my AT&T S4. Still running MDL on that one.
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My wife took it on her S4 and is very happy - zero issues, phone is snappier.
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Lag reduction wasn't thst noticeable but the improvement is there. Smearing is gone which is good. Notification bar has a new affect I like. Few new icons. I like it but not enough to take the OTA on my AT&T S4. Still running MDL on that one.
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As much as I do want to see these improvements, I'm not willing to lose the ability to root and flash new roms. Here is to hoping a workaround is found soon.
Many thanks for all the responses. I did root my last phone and enjoyed the freedoms that brought. Would like to eventually root this phone, and I'm hoping that when I'm ready to do it there'll be a solution available for me, but if not it won't be the end of the world.
What I didn't want to do was the worst of both worlds: Apply the OTA and hate it, AND not be able to root.
Sounds like I won't end up in that spot, so I'll give it a shot.
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Many thanks for all the responses. I did root my last phone and enjoyed the freedoms that brought. Would like to eventually root this phone, and I'm hoping that when I'm ready to do it there'll be a solution available for me, but if not it won't be the end of the world.
What I didn't want to do was the worst of both worlds: Apply the OTA and hate it, AND not be able to root.
Sounds like I won't end up in that spot, so I'll give it a shot.
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Why devalue your phone for some stupid update?
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Most people figure out by around the second grade that different people place different values on different things. One example of this is that there are about a zillion versions of Android and a zillion different versions of Android phones to use them on.
Right now, what I value is a stock S4. You value the phone differently. We can both have what we want. Isn't that nice?
You learned something today. Hooray!
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Most people figure out by around the second grade that different people place different values on different things. One example of this is that there are about a zillion versions of Android and a zillion different versions of Android phones to use them on.
Right now, what I value is a stock S4. You value the phone differently. We can both have what we want. Isn't that nice?
You learned something today. Hooray!
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I think its hilarious that people come to XDA to talk about a stock android device.... If you want a stock android device on Verizon, Verizon has a website dedicated to the S4 its various updates... The fact that your here asking root developers if you should go stock is frankly ridiculous. I'm sorry if you don't like the answers your being given but if you don't want or need ROOT, why are you here?
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I think its hilarious that people come to XDA to talk about a stock android device.... If you want a stock android device on Verizon, Verizon has a website dedicated to the S4 its various updates... The fact that your here asking root developers if you should go stock is frankly ridiculous. I'm sorry if you don't like the answers your being given but if you don't want or need ROOT, why are you here?
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I am here because there are very knowledgable people here who push their devices to the limit. Many of these people also have friends or spouses with the same hardware but still in a stock configuration, and thus are in tune with the quirks in the stock software. Indeed, I got two helpful responses, so that alone justifies my asking the question here. Besides, there are plenty of questions on this general Q&A forum that have nothing to do with android development. "What case are you using?" "What extended battery is best?" Etc.
I rooted my last device and ran a variety of custom roms on it for almost two years. There were pros and cons to that experience. I expect that one day, if rooting my S4 is an option, I will want to do that, but I'm not ready to do it yet.
Is that really such a bizarre and alien situation that no one could possibly comprehend it? What is there about it that deserves derision or insult?
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Most people figure out by around the second grade that different people place different values on different things. One example of this is that there are about a zillion versions of Android and a zillion different versions of Android phones to use them on.
Right now, what I value is a stock S4. You value the phone differently. We can both have what we want. Isn't that nice?
You learned something today. Hooray!
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I am here because there are very knowledgable people here who push their devices to the limit. Many of these people also have friends or spouses with the same hardware but still in a stock configuration, and thus are in tune with the quirks in the stock software. Indeed, I got two helpful responses, so that alone justifies my asking the question here. Besides, there are plenty of questions on this general Q&A forum that have nothing to do with android development. "What case are you using?" "What extended battery is best?" Etc.
I rooted my last device and ran a variety of custom roms on it for almost two years. There were pros and cons to that experience. I expect that one day, if rooting my S4 is an option, I will want to do that, but I'm not ready to do it yet.
Is that really such a bizarre and alien situation that no one could possibly comprehend it? What is there about it that deserves derision or insult?
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It's not bizarre or alien. Just an odd place to ask the question. The fact remains, you are on one of the websites that pioneered root access and spawned countless custom ROM's, Mods and Apps. You come to this website to discuss how you don't need root and are going stock and have no need of root & then you don't like the answers that the very same people who value root and push the limit of their phones give. If it were any other "development website" or chat channel you would be banned as a troll and no one would waste anymore time than they already have.
Hey All -
I've been digging, and I tend to be a lurker, but I'm not finding a safe place to put this.
In short, I am still running a rooted MDK. I have TWRP.
It used to be a huge deal for me to run a custom ROM et all because I needed to get the most out of my phone, but now that I have a great plan and an awesome phone, I found my need to flash not that big of a deal, so I'm toying with the idea of upgrading. I came here and started digging around. I found no real answer.
What I am looking for from the more seasoned and skilled members is, what would you do if you had MDK, unlimited Data/Wifi Hotspot? Would you just flash a 4.3 ROM and the new MJ7 Modem? Or would you just flash a stock ROM with the stock Recovery and take the OTA?
I'd like to keep Root, but (as I said) it's not necessary to have it at this moment, but if waiting long enough means I can basically get a stock MJ7 without the KNOX and pre-rooted, I'd be down.
Give me your thoughts.
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Hey All -
I've been digging, and I tend to be a lurker, but I'm not finding a safe place to put this.
In short, I am still running a rooted MDK. I have TWRP.
It used to be a huge deal for me to run a custom ROM et all because I needed to get the most out of my phone, but now that I have a great plan and an awesome phone, I found my need to flash not that big of a deal, so I'm toying with the idea of upgrading. I came here and started digging around. I found no real answer.
What I am looking for from the more seasoned and skilled members is, what would you do if you had MDK, unlimited Data/Wifi Hotspot? Would you just flash a 4.3 ROM and the new MJ7 Modem? Or would you just flash a stock ROM with the stock Recovery and take the OTA?
I'd like to keep Root, but (as I said) it's not necessary to have it at this moment, but if waiting long enough means I can basically get a stock MJ7 without the KNOX and pre-rooted, I'd be down.
Give me your thoughts.
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I struggled when I had to type the response to this. Not because I didn't know the answer, but because I didn't know how to ask you why you didn't already know the answer? You're giving up what you already were taking for granted just for the sake of what? Not trying to be mean, just trying to understand.
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I struggled when I had to type the response to this. Not because I didn't know the answer, but because I didn't know how to ask you why you didn't already know the answer? You're giving up what you already were taking for granted just for the sake of what? Not trying to be mean, just trying to understand.
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No worries man, I didn't take offense to your question at all . It's all good.
Well, it's not a matter of taking something for granted -- if that were the case, I'd just do it and through forethought to the wind. What I'm looking for is what experienced eyes may see which could offer me a path I didn't think of.
I like the open-ended ability a completely accessible (s-OFF, Custom Recovery, rooted, etc) allows for me to do. I like having the options, but I don't need them right now. This questions is, in essence, a "Just because I have the money, doesn't mean I need to save it."
I've seen people suggest waiting, flashing just the modem, upgrading for all the performance increases, upgrading just for the new release and all that, but no one tying it all together for the most open-ended "I have an MDK and want to get on 4.3" solution.
I know I can flash to ME1 then OTA it to get to Stock 4.3 with root but wind up with KNOX. Is there a better way? Is there a way I'm not thinking of?
Thanks for reading!
You'll potentially lose the freedom to run custom roms forever... there's no guarantee that the bootloaders on ME7 and later will be unlocked so there's a chance you'll be stuck when Verizon stops updating the S4. You can run a stock rom on MDK all you want so I'm not sure what would be your motivation to jump the gun here... I'm sure an MJ7 based rom to flash will show up in no time...
I'd you do want to update I'm sure there are some devs that would be glad to trade you phones.
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Crawshayi said:
You'll potentially lose the freedom to run custom roms forever... there's no guarantee that the bootloaders on ME7 and later will be unlocked so there's a chance you'll be stuck when Verizon stops updating the S4. You can run a stock rom on MDK all you want so I'm not sure what would be your motivation to jump the gun here... I'm sure an MJ7 based rom to flash will show up in no time...
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Thanks -- I'm not motivated to jump the gun, just answering a question while I have time to. Ironically, I did get the B.S. line from support that my problem was due to not having the latest OTA.
When you say:
I'm sure an MJ7 based rom to flash will show up in no time.
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, you're essentially stating that we'll have an MJ7 ROM that may carry some combination of Rooted, De-KNOX'd so that we can use 4.3 and still have our custom recovery? This would be what I'm looking for.
Sorry to be dense.
I'll probably just flash the modem then.
Just relax there should be a mj7 rom to flash before long.
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Thanks -- I'm not motivated to jump the gun, just answering a question while I have time to. Ironically, I did get the B.S. line from support that my problem was due to not having the latest OTA.
When you say: , you're essentially stating that we'll have an MJ7 ROM that may carry some combination of Rooted, De-KNOX'd so that we can use 4.3 and still have our custom recovery? This would be what I'm looking for.
Sorry to be dense.
I'll probably just flash the modem then.
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Yep exactly... there are already roms based on ME7 and MI1 that are close to stock with minor modifications, so of course there will be some of the same with MJ7 eventually. Just have patience and be glad you have the choices you do... some of us (like me) are stuck with a locked bootloader and we can only dream.
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No worries man, I didn't take offense to your question at all . It's all good.
Well, it's not a matter of taking something for granted -- if that were the case, I'd just do it and through forethought to the wind. What I'm looking for is what experienced eyes may see which could offer me a path I didn't think of.
I like the open-ended ability a completely accessible (s-OFF, Custom Recovery, rooted, etc) allows for me to do. I like having the options, but I don't need them right now. This questions is, in essence, a "Just because I have the money, doesn't mean I need to save it."
I've seen people suggest waiting, flashing just the modem, upgrading for all the performance increases, upgrading just for the new release and all that, but no one tying it all together for the most open-ended "I have an MDK and want to get on 4.3" solution.
I know I can flash to ME1 then OTA it to get to Stock 4.3 with root but wind up with KNOX. Is there a better way? Is there a way I'm not thinking of?
Thanks for reading!
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The point that your missing is there is no back, I changed my mind, or let me try something else. Samsung is trying to get the corporate enterprise business, which means ultra secure bootloaders and blacklisted updates that cause changes in qfuses which a physical change can not be un done by any software. So the unlocked phone will become increasing rare and harder to maintain. So a more apt example is time. You can spend it, but you can never get it back. The only route is to wait or give up cannot be gotten back.
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No worries man, I didn't take offense to your question at all . It's all good.
Well, it's not a matter of taking something for granted -- if that were the case, I'd just do it and through forethought to the wind. What I'm looking for is what experienced eyes may see which could offer me a path I didn't think of.
I like the open-ended ability a completely accessible (s-OFF, Custom Recovery, rooted, etc) allows for me to do. I like having the options, but I don't need them right now. This questions is, in essence, a "Just because I have the money, doesn't mean I need to save it."
I've seen people suggest waiting, flashing just the modem, upgrading for all the performance increases, upgrading just for the new release and all that, but no one tying it all together for the most open-ended "I have an MDK and want to get on 4.3" solution.
I know I can flash to ME1 then OTA it to get to Stock 4.3 with root but wind up with KNOX. Is there a better way? Is there a way I'm not thinking of?
Thanks for reading!
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I have to say that I was not expecting such a well thought out answer, but you have to realize that we've seen people upgrade from MDK just because they don't like how the "custom" splash screen appears and they wanted to get rid of it, or to get the newest S Voice or something. Interestingly enough, while you see it as "Just because I have the money, doesn't mean I need to save it."
I see it as "Just because it earns them more money, doesn't justify the existence and enforcement of having to use/see or be in the presence of the abomination that is Vz Navigator." But in all seriousness, my view is probably closer to this.
O gawd.... the hacker's manifesto lol.. you're making me feel old.
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You'll potentially lose the freedom to run custom roms forever...
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Don't you think that, as KNOX implementation (and greater) grows, that there will be less custom ROMS for the device? My search shows many have past the point of no return with the first OTA.[/QUOTE]
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I have to say that I was not expecting such a well thought out answer, but you have to realize that we've seen people upgrade from MDK just because they don't like how the "custom" splash screen appears and they wanted to get rid of it, or to get the newest S Voice or something. Interestingly enough, while you see it as "Just because I have the money, doesn't mean I need to save it."
I see it as "Just because it earns them more money, doesn't justify the existence and enforcement of having to use/see or be in the presence of the abomination that is Vz Navigator." But in all seriousness, my view is probably closer to this.
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I screwed up, I meant to say "Even though I have the money, I don't have to spend it." Sorry about that . I see your point though and while I'm more naturally your way, I did chuckle at the Hacker's Manifesto. While I still agree with the manifesto, it can't be all encompassing anymore. Technology is in our every day lives, and you'd have to approach your life like a monk with supreme dedication and limitation to maintain that view in it's entirety. It's better to maintain that focus in the areas that are most relevant to you in technology and maintaining the guidelines of simplicity there.
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I have to say that I was not expecting such a well thought out answer, but you have to realize that we've seen people upgrade from MDK just because they don't like how the "custom" splash screen appears and they wanted to get rid of it, or to get the newest S Voice or something. Interestingly enough, while you see it as "Just because I have the money, doesn't mean I need to save it."
I see it as "Just because it earns them more money, doesn't justify the existence and enforcement of having to use/see or be in the presence of the abomination that is Vz Navigator." But in all seriousness, my view is probably closer to this.
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Omg a hacker's manifesto reference lol flashback.
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