Hi,
I've a USB Jig, but it only work with old bootloader. Is it possible to use old bootloader with latest samsung JB rom?
Use Triangle Away app.
USB Jig is useful for other jobs, my interest is also can reset the flash counter or can start the download mode under a semibrick.
culoescopeta said:
USB Jig is useful for other jobs, my interest is also can reset the flash counter or can start the download mode under a semibrick.
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I have read other people doing it so it should work fine. Do a search it has been discussed a few times.
Flash the old bootloader, it doesn't matter. Bootloaders are device specific and not firmware specific. Make sure that you flash the one meant for your device. Flashing the wrong one will brick your device, only to be fixed by jtag/samsung service center.
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culoescopeta said:
USB Jig is useful for other jobs, my interest is also can reset the flash counter or can start the download mode under a semibrick.
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Yes I know it is but you dont need old bootloader to do anything other reset counter. You can enter download/wake device on new bootloaders with USB jig.
If you have root and want to reset flash counter its much quicker to simply use Triangle Away then to flash bootloader and use USB jig.
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I used this guide to root my phone:
forums.androidcentral.com/t-galaxy-s-ii/124047-how-root-t-galaxy-s-ii.html
It's a i777. I then read AFTER the fact (strange it wasnt mentioned in the guide. I know, my fault!) that the Flash Counter updates if you boot into download mode. This voids your warranty.
-Does rooting my phone using that guide really update my Flash Counter?
-And If so, is there a way to reset it in case something happens to my phone?
Planning on flashing CM7 or UnNamed tomorrow, so just curious.
re: Download Mode
crewxp said:
I used this guide to root my phone:
forums.androidcentral.com/t-galaxy-s-ii/124047-how-root-t-galaxy-s-ii.html
It's a i777. I then read AFTER the fact (strange it wasnt mentioned in the guide. I know, my fault!) that the Flash Counter updates if you boot into download mode. This voids your warranty.
-Does rooting my phone using that guide really update my Flash Counter?
-And If so, is there a way to reset it in case something happens to my phone?
Planning on flashing CM7 or UnNamed tomorrow, so just curious.
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Rooting the phone has nothing to do with the flash counter thingy...
When you root using SuperOneClick Rooter, the phone never goes into
download mode at all since there is NO reason to go into download mode
for just for rooting.
I know there are other methods of rooting besides SuperOneClick but
if any of the other methods require download mode I would NOT use it.
Not only because the counter, but each time we do anything in download mode we are taking a
small risk of bricking the phone so only use the download mode if you really have to and there
is no other way to do something you want to do.
That's one of the reasons why all these custom roms are zip files and
not TAR. There is way less of a chance to really damage the phone if
we use zipfiles for roms or mods or anything else.
If you want to check if the counter is started, go into download mode
by using the 2 volume control method.
Press both vol+/vol- and hold them press, then plug in the usb cable
from computer to phone.
When the screen comes up with a warning, just press vol up to continue and
look for the the word binary counter, it should say "NO" if counter is turned off.
Just booting into download mode does not trip the counter. Flashing a custom kernel via Odin or heimdall is how the binary counter gets tripped (note: flashing a stock kernel via Odin our heimdall will not trip the counter)
You can tell if you tripped the counter by
1. Seeing i9100 + yellow triangle warning sign on boot splash screen
2. Booting into download mode via volume up/down USB connect and read the counter directly
See this thread for in depth info
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Also info on that thread hour to reset the counter if you want with a download mode jig, the jig will erase and reset the binary counter, all the info you need is in that thread
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thanks a bunch guys! Yeah, I see a yellow warning when I boot it up. Just heading to bed, will give that thread a look tomorrow.
But it should be possible to erase and reset the counter with a 'jig'?
crewxp said:
thanks a bunch guys! Yeah, I see a yellow warning when I boot it up. Just heading to bed, will give that thread a look tomorrow.
But it should be possible to wrasse and reset the counter with a 'jig'?
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yes. Its all in that thread.
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dayv said:
yes. Its all in that thread.
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Believe it or not, but I have never went into download mode
for any reason without the jig I purchased about two years ago.
It's not because of the counter issue with our phones but it's just
just way too convenient to use the jig.
I just heard about the counter issue here on XDA after purchasing
this i777 phone.
The Captivate and the Infuse phones I had before did not have
a counter issue.
Misterjunky said:
Believe it or not, but I have never went into download mode
for any reason without the jig I purchased about two years ago.
It's not because of the counter issue with our phones but it's just
just way too convenient to use the jig.
I just heard about the counter issue here on XDA after purchasing
this i777 phone.
The Captivate and the Infuse phones I had before did not have
a counter issue.
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Actually, the Infuse does if you flashed the H1 OTA, or the Gingerbread bootloaders from J2.
Can you re-post the thread link? IT says the thread does not exist.
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Can you re-post the thread link? IT says the thread does not exist.
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I think the moderator moved the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
Thanks a bunch!
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I think the moderator moved the thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1311081
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That thread is definitely the way to go, IMO. This method will not trip the counter. Once you complete this method, you will be able to flash using CWM. CWM will not trip the counter, or the yellow triangle, when flashing.
Hi, I'm trying to get the yellow triangle off my phone so I bought a USB jig off ebay and when I put it in my phone it doesn't go into odin mode, instead it goes into factory mode.
I know samsung has changed the bootloader in 2.3.5 firmware but my phone is only on 2.3.4, any ideas?
firmware I have is 2.3.4
Kernel version – 2.6.35.7-I9100XWKI4-CL575468 [email protected] #2
If the powers on but doesn't into download mode, the jig is faulty, wrong resistor value.
Exchange it for a working one.
HellcatDroid said:
If the powers on but doesn't into download mode, the jig is faulty, wrong resistor value.
Exchange it for a working one.
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whats factory mode? I made my jig and it only cost about 8 dollars including paying for a soldering iron, it was really easy, and now i have an iron for future use! try pulling the battery for 10 seconds, then after reinserting the battery, reinsert the jig.
I had the same problem. Then I learnt that old bootlader is required if you want to use a jig. New bootloaders render the jig ineffective. So
1. go to this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
and READ CAREFULLy somewhere halfway down the post to this part...
All packages below this point have the old bootloader so you can safely reset the binary counter with a Jig.
If you've already flashed a full package from elsewhere or updated using KIES and cannot reset your binary counter using the Jig just flash this package in the PDA or Bootloader section of Odin to replace the bootloaders and then you can reset the counter: http://www.multiupload.com/LQQBRQVJUD
Here are the new bootloader tarball if you want to flash them back after resetting your binary counter: http://www.multiupload.com/5LNOCL7KPV
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2. flash the appropriate kernel.
3.Use the jig. Lose the yellow triangle!
4.then reflash any kernel you want, if you really want to.
I did the same thing, lost my yellow triangle and then I flashed speddmod kernel!
Hit thanks if this helped! But more importantly thank Intratech on the above linked post because you owe it to him!
thanks for you help..I will have a read up on that, or I might just leave the triangle on since it doesn't bother me much.
just 1 thing though, I thought I read lots of threads and sites that they only changed the bootloader to block these jigs on fw 2.3.5, but I have fw 2.3.4
anyway..cheers for the replies.
auldthief said:
I had the same problem. Then I learnt that old bootlader is required if you want to use a jig. New bootloaders render the jig ineffective. So
1. go to this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
and READ CAREFULLy somewhere halfway down the post to this part...
2. flash the appropriate kernel.
3.Use the jig. Lose the yellow triangle!
4.then reflash any kernel you want, if you really want to.
I did the same thing, lost my yellow triangle and then I flashed speddmod kernel!
Hit thanks if this helped! But more importantly thank Intratech on the above linked post because you owe it to him!
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sorry, new to sgs2, coming from sgs1, aren't bootloaders included in firmware meaning next Odin flash will update bootloaders? Does that mean you have to flash back old bl after every Odin update to allow you to remove triangle?
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I think you are mixing up things.
1. The jig resets the flash counter. It does nothing to the yellow triangle.
2. If you want to remove the yellow traingle, look in the CF-Root thread for instructions. It involves flashing a zimage from a stock kernel.
Lennyz1988 said:
1. The jig resets the flash counter. It does nothing to the yellow triangle.
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Yes it does.
Lennyz1988 said:
I think you are mixing up things.
1. The jig resets the flash counter. It does nothing to the yellow triangle.
2. If you want to remove the yellow traingle, look in the CF-Root thread for instructions. It involves flashing a zimage from a stock kernel.
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i thought the same, but fortunately, the jig removes the triangle too xD
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As long as you keep geting intratech's ROMs modified with the old bootloader, the jig will remain functional.
If you flash a stock ROM, you will need to reflash the old bootloader
auldthief said:
I had the same problem. Then I learnt that old bootlader is required if you want to use a jig. New bootloaders render the jig ineffective. So
1. go to this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
and READ CAREFULLy somewhere halfway down the post to this part...
2. flash the appropriate kernel.
3.Use the jig. Lose the yellow triangle!
4.then reflash any kernel you want, if you really want to.
I did the same thing, lost my yellow triangle and then I flashed speddmod kernel!
Hit thanks if this helped! But more importantly thank Intratech on the above linked post because you owe it to him!
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Hi, thanks for this....it worked.....also, is it worth flashing the new bootloader? or doesnt it matter
any pros or cons about it
I want to reset my custom binary counter using a USB jig, but it turns out that the newer bootloaders used in 2.3.4 or something onwards renders the jig useless. I can flash an old bootloader that still works with the jig, but I'm afraid that after this my phone will no longer boot as I am using XXLPB android version 4.0.3.
Does using an old <2.3.4 bootloader on ICS work? I don't want to find out the hard way.
There is an app by ChainFire, TriangleAway in the dev thread which can be used to reset binary counter. Check that out.
Note : CF says it's bit risky to do so, but you can try if you are willing to.
Flash the old bootloader, jig it/reset the flash counter, flash the new bootloader. Done. I posted both the old & new bootloaders to a thread yesterday (search for it).
vantt1 said:
I want to reset my custom binary counter using a USB jig, but it turns out that the newer bootloaders used in 2.3.4 or something onwards renders the jig useless. I can flash an old bootloader that still works with the jig, but I'm afraid that after this my phone will no longer boot as I am using XXLPB android version 4.0.3.
Does using an old <2.3.4 bootloader on ICS work? I don't want to find out the hard way.
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atulalvenkar said:
There is an app by ChainFire, TriangleAway in the dev thread which can be used to reset binary counter. Check that out.
Note : CF says it's bit risky to do so, but you can try if you are willing to.
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TriangleAway works perfectly. Thanks! No jig needed.
vantt1 said:
TriangleAway works perfectly. Thanks! No jig needed.
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Just curious, I am up to the point where I bought a USB jig from ebay seller and found out that it does not work on my upgraded Samsung Galaxy S2 which I loaded DPXL7 ICS and rooted. I see that I have to flash an old Samsung boot loader for the jig to reset the counter and remove the yellow triangle. Can find the download for the old boot loader but cannot find where to download the new ICS boot loader to put it back to original ICS. So now I see there is a free software you mentioned TriangleAway which you said removes the yellow triangle. But does it reset the flash counter to 0 also? If not I want to find the "new" ICS boot loader file so I can restore back to all ICS original build after I flash the old boot loader and use the USB jig to reset things. I'm searching but finding it hard to locate the threads or websites that give a good working download link. Thanks for any helpers out there!
Infobits said:
Just curious, I am up to the point where I bought a USB jig from ebay seller and found out that it does not work on my upgraded Samsung Galaxy S2 which I loaded DPXL7 ICS and rooted. I see that I have to flash an old Samsung boot loader for the jig to reset the counter and remove the yellow triangle. Can find the download for the old boot loader but cannot find where to download the new ICS boot loader to put it back to original ICS. So now I see there is a free software you mentioned TriangleAway which you said removes the yellow triangle. But does it reset the flash counter to 0 also? If not I want to find the "new" ICS boot loader file so I can restore back to all ICS original build after I flash the old boot loader and use the USB jig to reset things. I'm searching but finding it hard to locate the threads or websites that give a good working download link. Thanks for any helpers out there!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
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mrjl said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
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mrjl, Thank You!:good:
A simple question that I couldn't find here.
I used to use the old booloader on Gingerbread 2.3.6, in order to make the JIG work.
Now I use ICS 4.0.3 LPQ, and I want the JIG working...
The question is...
Can I use the same old bootloader from GB on a ICS rom?? Will it brick my mobile If I flash it?
I know about the app "triangle away" which resets the binary counter, but I wonder If some day I can't enter the download mode for any reason.
Thanks!
Old bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
jig should get you to download mode no matter which bootloader you're using, but it will reset counter only on old bootloader
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Stealing this thread a little bit..
Regarding the Binary Count, is there any way to check it?
I had triangle, then installed Resurrection 1.0, which removed the triangle.
Does this mean that the count is reset? Any way to check?
Thank you
Pls install triangle away and open it...it will show the count....i tried and it works like gem......
Or goto vol down power and home key combination there also it will shw the xount
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Makrilli said:
jig should get you to download mode no matter which bootloader you're using, but it will reset counter only on old bootloader
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But after I installed ICS jig doesn't lead me to download mode anymore...
ocaldini said:
A simple question that I couldn't find here.
I used to use the old booloader on Gingerbread 2.3.6, in order to make the JIG work.
Now I use ICS 4.0.3 LPQ, and I want the JIG working...
The question is...
Can I use the same old bootloader from GB on a ICS rom?? Will it brick my mobile If I flash it?
I know about the app "triangle away" which resets the binary counter, but I wonder If some day I can't enter the download mode for any reason.
Thanks!
Old bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
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Makrilli said:
jig should get you to download mode no matter which bootloader you're using, but it will reset counter only on old bootloader
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Just try what Makrilli suggested and use CWM to flash the old bootloader, not the standard download mode. Other users reported it works (as bootloader is not FW related, so it seems), google is your friend.
JIG_ON firmware routine location
Fevves said:
Just try what Makrilli suggested and use CWM to flash the old bootloader, not the standard download mode. Other users reported it works (as bootloader is not FW related, so it seems), google is your friend.
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guYs,
I don't have a SGS2 but a SGY but the jig business still kinda applies.
reason for some above statements is obviously, that on many fone pcbs you have those JIG_ON and JIG_ON_JTAG hardware signals. the jig, on some boards, is kinda hardwired-OR to the POWER_ON signal. on SGY, JIG_ON powers up the device which is a process you cannot possibly keep from happening by an updated firmware. also jig leads to FACTORY MODE whereas via 3-button-combo you get to ODIN MODE. would be interesting to know where this "FACTORY MODE" is located in firmware, exactly ...
Fevves said:
Just try what Makrilli suggested and use CWM to flash the old bootloader, not the standard download mode. Other users reported it works (as bootloader is not FW related, so it seems), google is your friend.
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How do I use CWM to flash the bootloader? It only lets install zip files. It won't let me install the md5 file. I ask because I flashed the old bootloader using Odin but it wont reset my counter so I was thinking about flashing it using CWM.
ocaldini said:
A simple question that I couldn't find here.
I used to use the old booloader on Gingerbread 2.3.6, in order to make the JIG work.
Now I use ICS 4.0.3 LPQ, and I want the JIG working...
The question is...
Can I use the same old bootloader from GB on a ICS rom?? Will it brick my mobile If I flash it?
I know about the app "triangle away" which resets the binary counter, but I wonder If some day I can't enter the download mode for any reason.
Thanks!
Old bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
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In the thread you referenced, just scroll down to the section in bold red and read it carefully. This worked perfectly for me, including reinstalling the new bootloader.
Hey guys, my phone will not recognize my sim card, my IMEI number will not show up either or bluetooth address or the IMEI SV, it tired to restore it from my EFS backup and that still did not help the situation. Only my WiFi works. Now I need to give it in for warranty, I have ordered a JIG off ebay however I read that the JIG may not reset my binary count. Now I have two options, install the old bootloader or use triangle away app
Which option would be safer??
Thanks
delza_6170 said:
Hey guys, my phone will not recognize my sim card, my IMEI number will not show up either or bluetooth address or the IMEI SV, it tired to restore it from my EFS backup and that still did not help the situation. Only my WiFi works. Now I need to give it in for warranty, I have ordered a JIG off ebay however I read that the JIG may not reset my binary count. Now I have two options, install the old bootloader or use triangle away app
Which option would be safer??
Thanks
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using 'Triangle Away' app is the better option compared to the 'old bootloader flash' one ma8
as messing up with bootlader might even Brick ur phone for sure
delza_6170 said:
Hey guys, my phone will not recognize my sim card, my IMEI number will not show up either or bluetooth address or the IMEI SV, it tired to restore it from my EFS backup and that still did not help the situation. Only my WiFi works. Now I need to give it in for warranty, I have ordered a JIG off ebay however I read that the JIG may not reset my binary count. Now I have two options, install the old bootloader or use triangle away app
Which option would be safer??
Thanks
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Installing the old boot loader won't remove the flash counts, it only removes the yellow triangle as the phone detects it as samsung signed or a secure kernel, triangle away can reset the count and trick the phone into thinking your phone has official firmware. Also a usb jig can do the same and as Sun90 said old bootloader restore is indeed quite risky.
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king_below_my_lord said:
Installing the old boot loader won't remove the flash counts, it only removes the yellow triangle as the phone detects it as samsung signed or a secure kernel, triangle away can reset the count and trick the phone into thinking your phone has official firmware. Also a usb jig can do the same and as Sun90 said old bootloader restore is indeed quite risky.
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I expect the same from others.
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But I read somewhere that the USB JIG does not reset the binary count on the new bootloader. Is that correct?
1) Flashing the old bootloader is no more risky than flashing anything else; ergo, any/every Odin flash you do runs the (normally very small risk) of bricking your phone. But it is a very small risk.
2) If you do flash the old bootloader, the jig should reset the flash counter and remove the triangle.
3) You are correct, a jig does not reset the flash counter with recent bootloaders (I've tried this myself).
4) Using Triangle Away also carries the very small risk of something going wrong.
So essentially, it's a coin flip as to how you do it. They're as 'safe' as each other.
Take your pick.
The other way to look at it is if you brick the phone by doing whatever,how are Samsung going to knock back your warranty if they cant boot it up either.
delza_6170 said:
But I read somewhere that the USB JIG does not reset the binary count on the new bootloader. Is that correct?
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Yes usb jigs doesn't work on jb kernels it will work on ics and lower kernels.
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king_below_my_lord said:
Yes usb jigs doesn't work on jb kernels it will work on ics and lower kernels.
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The working of the JIG is related to the bootloader not the kernel.
Made my own jig, and somehow it worked, without any changes to the bootloader