people refer to aokp aosp as non-touchwiz based rom what exactly is touchwiz? is it just the flow of the Operating System (the home screen, menus, etc) or is it just framework and nothing cosmetic or what?
Touchwiz is the user interface. The launcher, the weather/time widget and I believe the app drawer. Android Open Kang Project is pretty much the same as Android Open Source Project. Aosp abd aokp are a bare bone version of android without any additional user interface options.
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dmonger11b said:
Touchwiz is the user interface. The launcher, the weather/time widget and I believe the app drawer. Android Open Kang Project is pretty much the same as Android Open Source Project. Aosp abd aokp are a bare bone version of android without any additional user interface options.
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If you run Nova on them would they both seem the same then? Also does s-pen work in aosp or aokp?
No aosp and aokp do not support the s-pen
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dmonger11b said:
No aosp and aokp do not support the s-pen
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Yes they do, just not the stock s-pen apps.
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dmonger11b said:
Touchwiz is the user interface. The launcher, the weather/time widget and I believe the app drawer. Android Open Kang Project is pretty much the same as Android Open Source Project. Aosp abd aokp are a bare bone version of android without any additional user interface options.
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AOKP does have additional UI options, so does CM. AOSP is stock, but most roms based on AOSP add things like options, lock screens, performance tweaks, etc. They are generally still much lighter than manufacturers skins though.
You can also buy GMD Spen Control and that is supposed to bring back the floating pointer you see when you use your stylus along with a few other options. I havent tested it yet but ive read some really good reviews.
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Yes they do, just not the stock s-pen apps.
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AOKP does have additional UI options, so does CM. AOSP is stock, but most roms based on AOSP add things like options, lock screens, performance tweaks, etc. They are generally still much lighter than manufacturers skins though.
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Cm and aokp don't have the heavy ui foot print like touch wiz, blur, sense ect that's why I said that.
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I saw a thread comparing both beans rom and cleanrom. Beans being AOSP and cleanrom non-AOSP. What is the not so technical definition of AOSP and what are the benefits and downfalls of both AOSP and non-AOSP roms?
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Technically they are both touchwiz.
Beans has an AOSP look.
Neither are true AOSP.
AOSP is android a it was meant to be.
Everything else has add-ons on top of android. Touchwiz. Sense. Blur. Etc.
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Is there any "true" AOSP roms for the note 2?
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CM10 under Original Development, and AOKP, Pacman, and Paranoid Android under Development are all AOSP(Android Open Source Project)
These ROMs are still in their alpha stage though on this device, so be sure to read through the threads to find out what's working and what's not. They are actually excellent builds for only being alpha, but they do have bugs that may make it unusable for some as a daily driver. Just give them some time though, they will be rock solid before too long.
The cool thing about any AOSP ROM is they all have tons of customization options, from status bar clock and battery tweaks, to lock screen modifications, built in performance options, System and per app DPI changes, etc.
The main downside would be it's no longer TouchWiz, so you're going to lose some of your motion options like swipe screen to do screen capture, direct call, smart stay, and will also lose the S-Pen tricks such as air hover, long pressing on the screen while clicking button for screen shot (which you can immediately draw on and share) and all of the other neat little things TouchWiz integrated, but there are a lot of apps on the play store that can replace these functionalities, and the pen still works fine as a normal stylus.
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Yeah I just flashed paranoid android and im back on cleanrom. Nothing against the dev but paranoid android wasnt for me I think I will stick to cleanrom
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kevinbauman said:
Yeah I just flashed paranoid android and im back on cleanrom. Nothing against the dev but paranoid android wasnt for me I think I will stick to cleanrom
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Same here except I switched back to beans ROM.
kevinbauman said:
Is there any "true" AOSP roms for the note 2?
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Good point.
I'm using paranoid right now. It takes a while to get used to.
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I have come to really love my quickmemo feature and would hate to give it up, and would love to see the ability to use Qslide apps on say CM10.1.
I remember hearing at the least quickmemo would be usable on AOSP roms but, haven't seen any details on how to get it to the AOSP roms.
Nope.
AOSP is Plain Vanilla Android. Stuff like Quick Memo is added in by LG and is proprietary.
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I have come to really love my quickmemo feature and would hate to give it up, and would love to see the ability to use Qslide apps on say CM10.1.
I remember hearing at the least quickmemo would be usable on AOSP roms but, haven't seen any details on how to get it to the AOSP roms.
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gunnyman said:
Nope.
AOSP is Plain Vanilla Android. Stuff like Quick Memo is added in by LG and is proprietary.
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+1 for gunny. The LG notebook can be downloaded in the apps section. Use LMT for the somewhat same effect as quick memo.
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Try this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.kr.easysoft.baromemo_en_free
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Nope.
AOSP is Plain Vanilla Android. Stuff like Quickmemo is added in by LG and is proprietary.
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I get that AOSP is Vanilla android and Quick Memo is a closed source app.
That doesn't mean that the app itself isn't capable of running on AOSP. Perfect example would be the Beats Audio, A number of the Xperia Apps, and so on and so forth.
I should have propably phrased the question "Any Stock features going to be compatible with AOSP."
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I get that AOSP is Vanilla android and Quick Memo is a closed source app.
That doesn't mean that the app itself isn't capable of running on AOSP. Perfect example would be the Beats Audio, A number of the Xperia Apps, and so on and so forth.
I should have propably phrased the question "Any Stock features going to be compatible with AOSP."
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That would require some modifications to the systemui.apk I think. Same for QSlide. You'd need to modify the systemui.apk to work with the xxxxxxxxOverlay.apk (forgot what it was called exactly).
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Hey guys.
Thank you devs for your wonderful roms and thank you communities for being so helpful.
I wanted to ask if HALO feature can be ported to TouchWiz roms since the source for HALO was released to the public by ParanoidAndroid.
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Not possible.
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Not possible.
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Thanks. Haha that's all I needed to know. Should I delete this post now?
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Thanks. Haha that's all I needed to know. Should I delete this post now?
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Just report it and the mods will lock it.
The problem is the Halo source needs to be merged into your ROM source and Samsung do not release their ROM source. Essentially you need 2 sets of Source. Halo is not enough.
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The problem is the Halo source needs to be merged into your ROM source and Samsung do not release their ROM source. Essentially you need 2 sets of Source. Halo is not enough.
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Basically what I said, shortened to two words.
Yours is the answer, mine is the reason for the answer
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rootSU said:
Yours is the answer, mine is the reason for the answer
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You always want to have the last word, "innit"?
No I don't
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Not possible.
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And why not, exactly? The Facebook Chatheads works with Touchwiz.
read above for the answer
This is not HALO but at least you will have the notifications.
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And why not, exactly? The Facebook Chatheads works with Touchwiz.
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Chatheads is nothing compared to Halo.
Halo is compiled into. Settings.apk and /frameworks
You cannot compile these on touchwiz because there's no code to compile
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Chatheads is nothing compared to Halo.
Halo is compiled into. Settings.apk and /frameworks
You cannot compile these on touchwiz because there's no code to compile
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TouchWiz should not have any reason that it could not work with Halo. unless TouchWiz doesn't play nice with part of the framework. The APK's can be decompiled and recompiled to include both framework 'parts'.
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TouchWiz should not have any reason that it could not work with Halo. unless TouchWiz doesn't play nice with part of the framework. The APK's can be decompiled and recompiled to include both framework 'parts'.
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And one step further, the TouchWiz framework can be added to existing ROM's with no problem. I don't believe that Halo is changing any core API's, it is replacing them with other implementations that allow Halo to manage things instead of what currently happens.
Of course, I don't have a really good understanding of what else is going on behind the scenes, but Halo works with any app, and if the apps dont require a recompile, I'm not sure why the TouchWiz framework would.
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TouchWiz should not have any reason that it could not work with Halo.
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No one said there was a reason that it couldn't "work" with touchwiz. We're saying it is not possible without source code to add the functionality
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The APK's can be decompiled
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Halo exists outside of framework-res.apk. This is why I said /frameworks in my previous post
Have you looked at the Halo commits?
Here they are:
https://github.com/ParanoidAndroid/...mmit/518c329e8c67fa96b8a8fc22e1962ddb8497c333
https://github.com/ParanoidAndroid/...mmit/7c739a86e7a02451a63615d71f1b6c846caacdc6
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and recompiled to include both framework 'parts'.
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No they can't. What you get when you decompile an apk in no way even slightly resembles what you have before you compile it from source.
Take a look at the Halo Commits. Look at all the "imports". How do you propose they are handled by decompiling an apk?
Decompiling and recompiling an apk is child's play and should not be compared to real source code compiling in any way.
When compiling frameworks (including but not exclusive to frameworks-res.apk) you are pulling instructions from thousands of java and cpp files. Over a GB of text instructions. Do you have any idea how much code that actually is?
When you decompile an apk, you get the sum of it's parts and you can make some minor changes there. When you compile an apk from source, instructions are taken from files that do not end up even in the apk and many of these files are the files that are amended within the Halo commits
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And one step further, the TouchWiz framework can be added to existing ROM's with no problem. I don't believe that Halo is changing any core API's, it is replacing them with other implementations that allow Halo to manage things instead of what currently happens.
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Again, it's nothing to do with how it acts once compiled. Its getting it compiled that is the impossibility
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Of course, I don't have a really good understanding of what else is going on behind the scenes, but Halo works with any app, and if the apps dont require a recompile, I'm not sure why the TouchWiz framework would.
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We're not asking Halo to make the framework to be a notification like any other app. We're asking the framework to handle every other app differently.
I really think you should take a closer look at the halo source code. It can only be compiled in from source. You do not end up with source when you decompile an app. You end up with it's parts that were created from the source.
Edit > Wait, do you think we're talking about "TouchWiz Home", the launcher? We're not. Touchwiz is much, much more than the launcher. It is the entire ROM framework too. it is THIS that we are talking about when we say "TouchWiz".
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TouchWiz should not have any reason that it could not work with Halo. unless TouchWiz doesn't play nice with part of the framework. The APK's can be decompiled and recompiled to include both framework 'parts'.
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And one step further, the TouchWiz framework can be added to existing ROM's with no problem. I don't believe that Halo is changing any core API's, it is replacing them with other implementations that allow Halo to manage things instead of what currently happens.
Of course, I don't have a really good understanding of what else is going on behind the scenes, but Halo works with any app, and if the apps dont require a recompile, I'm not sure why the TouchWiz framework would.
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No one said there was a reason that it couldn't "work" with touchwiz. We're saying it is not possible without source code to add the functionality
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Then how, exactly, can TouchWiz be added to an AOSP ROM?
Please see my edit. We're not talking about the touchwiz launcher
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We can get xposed to run why is this any different?
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Then how, exactly, can TouchWiz be added to an AOSP ROM?
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Where have you seen TouchWiz being added to AOSP?? There is no source for TouchWiz UI. TouchWiz is not only the TWLauncher. Its a whole different UI.
Consider this, you have source for AOSP based ROMs and source for Halo. So one can add Halo into AOSP. Decompiling twframework-res.apk etc doesn t actually decompile it to source (.java) does it?? All you get are a bunch of Smali files which is a big headache. All the bet porting Halo using smali.
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We can get xposed to run why is this any different?
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If you dont know the answer to that question, there's nothing I can say to make you understand. I've already answered why its not possible.
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Where have you seen TouchWiz being added to AOSP?? There is no source for TouchWiz UI. TouchWiz is not only the TWLauncher. Its a whole different UI.
Consider this, you have source for AOSP based ROMs and source for Halo. So one can add Halo into AOSP. Decompiling twframework-res.apk etc doesn t actually decompile it to source (.java) does it?? All you get are a bunch of Smali files which is a big headache. All the bet porting Halo using smali.
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You can apparently port the touchwiz framework (which sits atop the android framework) to an aosp tom. I imagine you need knowledge of dependancies.
Its the complete opposite to what we'd need. I've further clarified my answer to this member in PM
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I'm assuming I'm not alone here, as I have seen many people across the forums saying that they have either already gone to, or are thinking of flashing an AOSP ROM, and are worried about losing all of those Samsung Goodies (Like hover, air gestures, eye control, TW Camera, etc.) They generally also seem to want the customizability of a custom rom, as well. So, let's discuss how people have gone about getting that JB feel on a TW ROM.
The way I currently have this set up is with the Hyperdrive 5.7 ROM as a base. With just that, you get a smoother, faster, and enormously feature-packed TW ROM. The customization you can accomplish with this ROM is very impressive, especially considering it is TouchWiz. On top of this, I'm running - yep, you guessed it - Nova Launcher.
Nova Launcher is, in my opinion, the obvious choice for getting stock JB feel on any device. Nova allows the important customizations made to Hyperdrive to continue working, while adding the JB feel right on top. I've also run the script from within Hyperdrive to enable the Nexus 4 Softkeys, and I've shut off the lights on the capacitive keys on the device itself. This makes them completely invisible, so the device looks much more like a Nexus device, if you like that sort of thing.
What do you guys think? What other options are out there? I'm looking to give some insight to users who may want to get this type of feel on their S4, while also getting some feedback or better/different ways of achieving this. Good luck, and happy theming!
looks good just get rid of the nav bar
Eclipse is the closest anyone can get to aosp ATM. Best ROM out there.
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AmericanCon said:
Eclipse is the closest anyone can get to aosp ATM. Best ROM out there.
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What does the dialer look like? Still the ugly white?
What about incoming call screen?
Just changing the launcher doesn't make it AOSP themed.
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What does the dialer look like? Still the ugly white?
What about incoming call screen?
Just changing the launcher doesn't make it AOSP themed.
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Why don't you just go check out the ROM thread yourself before completely discounting it? No, it does not have the white dialer. It's very well themed and runs great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2351840
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Why don't you just go check out the ROM thread yourself before completely discounting it? No, it does not have the white dialer. It's very well themed and runs great.
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You and I have our wires crossed. I was responding to the OP, which references a combo of hyperdrive rom and nova launcher.
I wasn't referring to the Eclipse ROM, which I see has AOSP dialer instead of TW dialer.
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Eclipse is the closest anyone can get to aosp ATM. Best ROM out there.
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Yes, but youre losing all of the touchwiz features, which is half of the point of this thread.
Great AOSP ROM for sure, though. :thumbup:
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What does the dialer look like? Still the ugly white?
What about incoming call screen?
Just changing the launcher doesn't make it AOSP themed.
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Yeah. So the dialer and incoming calls are both part of the TW base. Nova launcher is just that; a home/launcher replacement. Just as you said. Though I am sure there are theming options for these things through third party methods, since many people dislike TW appearances.
I am just trying to get more of an AOSP look/feel, doesn't need to be completely coated in JB.
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Yes, but youre losing all of the touchwiz features, which is half of the point of this thread.
Great AOSP ROM for sure, though. :thumbup:
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Eclipse is a themed TouchWiz ROM with a couple AOSP parts. It is not built on AOSP base. I believe it has the air features and TW camera, as well as many others.
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Yes, but youre losing all of the touchwiz features, which is half of the point of this thread.
Great AOSP ROM for sure, though. :thumbup:
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I fully understood the point of the thread which is why I suggested Eclipse ROM. It's Touchwiz based and includes all the Touchwiz gimmicks as well as the TW camera. It's most certainly NOT an AOSP ROM as you seem to think it is. It's just a very well themed Touchwiz ROM.
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I fully understood the point of the thread which is why I suggested Eclipse ROM. It's Touchwiz based and includes all the Touchwiz gimmicks as well as the TW camera. It's most certainly NOT an AOSP ROM as you seem to think it is. It's just a very well themed Touchwiz ROM.
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You know, its really easy to post a reply without being passive-aggressive about it. I made a mistake and was unaware that Eclipse was Touchwiz, I was misinformed. Now that I have been home and had a chance to look at it, it looks like a really great option! Thanks for posting it here.
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Eclipse is a themed TouchWiz ROM with a couple AOSP parts. It is not built on AOSP base. I believe it has the air features and TW camera, as well as many others.
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Thanks for this. My bad, I was misinformed on Eclipse at some point. I checked it out a bit and it looks like a cool option to mix TW and AOSP features.
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You and I have our wires crossed. I was responding to the OP, which references a combo of hyperdrive rom and nova launcher.
I wasn't referring to the Eclipse ROM, which I see has AOSP dialer instead of TW dialer.
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Obviously he wouldn't have known since you quoted him.
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I'm assuming I'm not alone here, as I have seen many people across the forums saying that they have either already gone to, or are thinking of flashing an AOSP ROM, and are worried about losing all of those Samsung Goodies (Like hover, air gestures, eye control, TW Camera, etc.) They generally also seem to want the customizability of a custom rom, as well. So, let's discuss how people have gone about getting that JB feel on a TW ROM.
The way I currently have this set up is with the Hyperdrive 5.7 ROM as a base. With just that, you get a smoother, faster, and enormously feature-packed TW ROM. The customization you can accomplish with this ROM is very impressive, especially considering it is TouchWiz. On top of this, I'm running - yep, you guessed it - Nova Launcher.
Nova Launcher is, in my opinion, the obvious choice for getting stock JB feel on any device. Nova allows the important customizations made to Hyperdrive to continue working, while adding the JB feel right on top. I've also run the script from within Hyperdrive to enable the Nexus 4 Softkeys, and I've shut off the lights on the capacitive keys on the device itself. This makes them completely invisible, so the device looks much more like a Nexus device, if you like that sort of thing.
What do you guys think? What other options are out there? I'm looking to give some insight to users who may want to get this type of feel on their S4, while also getting some feedback or better/different ways of achieving this. Good luck, and happy theming!
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What is that clock and weather widget (2nd screenshot)?
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What is that clock and weather widget (2nd screenshot)?
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The main portion of it is DashClock. I like the accuweather service more than Yahoo though, so I used overlapping widgets in Nova Launcher. The weather widget on top of Dashclock is a 1x1 weather from Beautiful Widgets.
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this isnt really a [MOD] or a [GUIDE] this is more or less someones review of a ROM and a couple quick customizations in an app that's well known.... very misleading post
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this isnt really a [MOD] or a [GUIDE] this is more or less someones review of a ROM and a couple quick customizations in an app that's well known.... very misleading post
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Thanks for the feedback... kinda new and learning. Updated OP.
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Thanks for the feedback... kinda new and learning. Updated OP.
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no problem, we all start somewhere!!! enjoy the forums!!! and your phone:good:
Where/how do you run the script to make the Nexus soft buttons appear?
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Where/how do you run the script to make the Nexus soft buttons appear?
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I am no longer running this ROM, but it is an included script with Hyperdrive. If you go to sbreen's included script installer, it was somewhere in a media folder and you just run it from there. He posted the instructions on the first page of the Hyperdrive thread somewhere.
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Hi Does anyone know if Pie Control, Halo and other nice features form the PA ROMs could be installed onto the Google Edition ROMs for HTC one?
I know there is app for Pie Control -- but it pales in comparison to what PA ROMs offer.
I'm gonna have to lean towards no because htc's framework usually doesn't allow for it
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If you are rooted, search xda for an app called LMT. It not only contains pie, but gesture controls. Halo, however is for AOSP Roms.
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I believe halo is open sourced, but I'm not sure if anyone has released it as a stand alone app. In my experience, I've found LMT to have just as many configurations as pie in PA or CM10.1.
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halo is not for sense, just so u know, it is for xbox and pc lol hahaha,