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Im coming over to the photon from E4GT, tired of Samsung.
Anyway, Im confused about the most optimal route for flashing. I see bootstrap, unlocked bootloader stuff. I see a couple kernals, a couple roms....but then there is the OTA thing that will probably occur when I power on the phone. How will affect my rom set up? Why does flashing an ext 4 kernal break the wifi functionality? Why would anyone use bootstrapped method when the bootloader is now unlocked?
Idk, Im just a little photon newb, and I will probably told to go do more reading. But honestly I have such a headache from researching these phones (new sprint customer), dealing with my E4GT probalems....so if anyone feels like typing and introducing me to photon best practices, I will "thank" them.
Thanks guys
Root, Unlock with Pudding, Flash CWM, flash away.
What about that latest OTA? Will my phone alrdy have it?
Root, unlock, flash cwm 5, flash homebase 2.1 with 4.2 update. My phone has been flawless.
Unlock = loose 4g
Even if you get the latest ota the pudding flash takes you back, then whatever the ROM you flash its based on
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And welcome to the photon btw!
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Why use pudding instead of bootstrap?
boolboo said:
Why use pudding instead of bootstrap?
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Bootstrap is a waste of time.
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Just wondering, what problems did you have with your epic touch?
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Flashing issues with bootstrap, possible bricking, only really good for backups... My path for flashing was pudding unlock, root with one click root from shabby, fastboot clockwork onto your phone, then place the ROM of your choice on your phone via cwm... I'm running homebase 2.1 Deblur with update 4.2, and so far not a single problem. Just make sure you know what you are doing and read read read before doing anything. Any questions feel free to pm me or one of the other members and we can help you through everything!
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So I finally rooted my Electrify(photon), I have insurance and **** and i've taken my phone scuba diving so I really dont care if I brick it at this point(just a reason for me to get a new phone).
Basically my question is, How can i go about getting an aftermarket ICS on it? I can use cynagon right? Someone link me please...? Can I use this? If so, What exactly is unlocking the bootloader?
Im still new at all the terminology, it's been forever since i've been in the Android dev scene....
Thanks a ton XDA!
-Chris
To flash CM9, or any unlocked ROM you need to install a custom recovery, usually clockworkmod. Idr about the electrify, but for the photon you need to flash the pudding unlocked file and run a few CMD lines in order to unlock the bootloader(kills 4g btw) and then you can install a custom recovery and be ready to flash unlocked ROMS. (same general process for electrifiy but iirc different files)IF you are on Android 2.3.5 your SOL.. For the time being atleast as you can't unlock its bootloader. QBKing has a few videos about the Photon on how to unlock, install CWM, and flash ROMS. There REALLY useful for beginners and people who need to be refreshed on what exactly to do. Don't quote me on the exact steps as I have a Photon and never looked too in depth about the electrify, wait for someone else to chime in to verify or search around.
You were a lot of help so far, and yes I am running stock 2.3.5...I installed cwm, but I have yet to unlock the boot loader, and as you stated, I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon. But what exactly does unlocking the bootloader do...?
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My understanding is this...
Photon and Electrify 2.3.4 can unlock the bootloader.
Photon 2.3.5 can run something called bootstrap. (There is no legit Photon 2.3.5 from Sprint, but some bleeding-edge MoPho's have flashed 2.3.5 anyway and found themselves in a world of pain.)
Electrify 2.3.5 can do neither. I asked about it here and as of now 143 people have looked at it but haven't replied... Then again, it's the weekend, but I also asked in a topic about the bootstrap a week ago, and nobody there knew either.
So I think with Electrify 2.3.5 rooting is all you can do.
And that's fine, Electrify is beast anyway.
We're supposed to get official ICS in Q2 2012 (or was it Q3?). I don't know fiscal quarters, but Q1 starts in Spring, I think, so I guess summer or late summer?
I don't care about ICS and I don't see why I should. I change launchers weekly and I'm always rotating software on my phone. I'm more interested in getting the bootloader unlocked, but I don't think Motorola has any plans for that.
While it's true you can't unlock the bootloader on 2.3.5 yet, that means that you can't flash kernels and some roms. There are some that work with a locked bootloader. Loki has an Imperium version. Rocko has some versions for locked phones. And there is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575259 from loki. It will strip the bloat and blur from your phone, and give it some tweaks. This with the launcher of your choice makes for a great phone.
Exactly what post above said. I'll just add on saying that without an unlocked bootloader there is no way to get ICS. Use locked roms and try different launchers and you can still have a sweet phone until official ics or we unlock 2.3.5
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What is blur and bloat?? And what ROM is best..? As far as locked boot loaders go...
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Crispy, Blur is Motorola's enhancement suite for Android. It contains Motorola Home, and all the Motorola apps like the gallery, music player, and widgets. And the stupid lock screen. (I hate Motorola's lock screen. A lot.) HTC's is called Sense and Samsung's is called TouchWiz. They all have one. Very few Android phones are straight-up Android.
Bloat is anything on top of AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and the Google apps. This includes Blur/Sense/TouchWiz, technically, though most don't consider those bloat. If you have US Cellular, City ID is the epitome of bloat. It doesn't work as advertised, it's always there, and it will nag you to pay for it sometimes. Bloat on US Cellular phones also includes Tone Room Deluxe, Your Navigator Deluxe, My Contacts Backup, and the QuickOffice demo. Sprint has a whole other set of bloat apps.
Bricky -- So I don't need bootstrap? Or I do?
Crispy again: On your home screen, hit Menu, Settings, and then About Phone. Near the bottom look for "Android version". If it says 2.3.4 below, you can unlock your bootloader. If it says 2.3.5, you cannot.
I know ha, and I'm on 2.3.5 just like youuu:/ but it appears that there are like someee rom's that can be used without unlocking the bootloader...
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Yes you need bootstrap. Root your phone, install bootstrap, make nandroid backup in bootstrap , install rom = profit
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bricky23 said:
Yes you need bootstrap. Root your phone, install bootstrap, make nandroid backup in bootstrap , install rom = profit
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You need an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER to install a ROM my friend....There are a few decent ROM's that dont require an UL loader, but to get a really nice ROM an unlocked bootloader appears to be greatly needed. I really wish Moto wasn't such a giant douche.
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You were a lot of help so far, and yes I am running stock 2.3.5...I installed cwm, but I have yet to unlock the boot loader, and as you stated, I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon. But what exactly does unlocking the bootloader do...?
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You have cwm installed on a 2.3.5 Electrify with a locked bl??
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You have cwm installed on a 2.3.5 Electrify with a locked bl??
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Im sure he's meaning bootstrap in that post.. you can't install custom recovery while locked..
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Im sure he's meaning bootstrap in that post.. you can't install custom recovery while locked..
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Yes, I ment bootstrap.
Also, how does nandroid backups work? Does it backup EVERYTHING? whats the difference in outcome with Titanium backup VS recovery nandroid backups...?
i really want ics on my electrify.. but i ve a electgrify 2.3.5 with locked bootloader..
is it possible to do it?
I run AOKP build 38 on my mopho, it's a little buggy. My advice is to run one of the slimmed down stock ROMS mentioned previously. Wait for the official build, then there will be a bunch of devs making perfectly tuned apps.
Universal DeBlur-DeBloat Live ROM Conversion is the only ROM that requires root ONLY. It was written to help those that can't even run bootstrap. Think of it as Imperium Initiative without the theme change and custom kernel.
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I run AOKP build 38 on my mopho, it's a little buggy. My advice is to run one of the slimmed down stock ROMS mentioned previously. Wait for the official build, then there will be a bunch of devs making perfectly tuned apps.
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ICS is official announcied from motorola to moto electrify?
No, only Photon.
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No, only Photon.
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it s a bad notice :S
developers are working to unlock the BL of lectrify
I know the new 2.3.5 update perma-locks the bootloader but does the bootstrap method still work? I use 4g regularly and have no intention to go unlocked but I have used the bootstrap flash a few times and find it useful.
thanks
yeah. i thought bootstrap was designed for the users who got the2.3.5 update(downdate lol)
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I bumping this post to hopefully get a definitive answer to this question...
Have either of you tried or anyone else tried? If so, what were your results??
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friend helped me on last electrify and flashed rocko rom
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I tried and it installed but the setup screens kept looping couldn't get it to work properly. i only tried one rom but don't remember which one. would love to find one that works
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I tried and it installed but the setup screens kept looping couldn't get it to work properly. i only tried one rom but don't remember which one. would love to find one that works
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So last night I got brave and tested the Bootstrap Recovery (dx2.apk) and it went smooth. I was able to boot into CWR and do a Nandroid backup. Before I personally go any further I'm doing some reading on the ReRecovery option (found here in the forums) as it sounds like an easier option than original BSR process. From what I understand, they are both technically the same except RR makes it a little easier being that after everything you flash, your BSR is gone.
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is there any roms I can load on a locked 2.3.5? or am I out of luck? thanks
I believe we are currently stuck. At this time, there is no way to unlock the bootloader which is what is needed (along with gaining root access) to successfully flash custom ROMS. We are still able to root using the photon-torpedo method but beyond that, we sit and wait.
There are other methods of customizing by using Bootstrap recovery, which one would use as an option if you chose NOT to unlock the bootloader and then you can flash some ROMS and other stuff that way. It's been working great for most on 2.3.4 but I'm not 100% sure about 2.3.5 yet....I'm still looking into that myself.
I don't see why bootstrap recovery option wouldn't work on 2.3.5 because it's used on devices with locked bootloader anyway.
For real tho, at the rate the Dev's work around here, I wouldn't be surprised if they crack the bootloader issue on 2.3.5 sooner than later and we'll be flashing this that and everything else before we know it!
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So right now you have no way to do a nandroid?
With all due respect - what part of "locked" is unclear to you all?
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So right now you have no way to do a nandroid?
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Not sure if I can or not to be honest. I have ROM Toolbox Pro & ROM Manager Premium installed but I haven't tried creating a backup of my current ROM (which for me is Stock OS 2.3.5 and rooted with some minor tweaks/mods done). I guess I always assumed it was only useful if I had CWM Recovery flashed and/or was using a custom ROM.
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Not to beat a dead horse here. But can you install bootstrap recovery on a rooted, full ota 2.3.5. soak updated photon?
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Not to beat a dead horse here. But can you install bootstrap recovery on a rooted, full ota 2.3.5. soak updated photon?
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Yes, you can! I'm currently in the same state as you and have been successfully using bootstrap recovery for the past few days.
Works perfectly as far as I can tell!
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Jleeblanch said:
Yes, you can! I'm currently in the same state as you and have been successfully using bootstrap recovery for the past few days.
Works perfectly as far as I can tell!
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The nandroid backup and recovery work as well?
mof9336 said:
The nandroid backup and recovery work as well?
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YES!! I used the dx2.apk from another post on here. Followed the instructions and booted into recovery. I did a Nandroid backup. After doing some research I found a thread about a Rerecovery option that makes the flashing process a little easier being that after a factory and/or data wipe, your BSR will be gone. With Rerecovery, you just flash the files as the last step of a CWMR session and BSR will be restored prior to Rebooting!
The info, instructions and download links regarding rerecovery and bootstrap recovery are in this post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426062
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I think mofs releasing a build for all you sad permalocked people
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I think mofs releasing a build for all you sad permalocked people
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That's what's good!! Also, I believe Rockos 2.3.5 ROM (locked version in second post or bottom of first) works too!
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That's what's good!! Also, I believe Rockos 2.3.5 ROM (locked version in second post or bottom of first) works too!
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Any news on this guys? seems like this thread died off. I had a bionic, and there was plenty of dev support just by using bootstrap. This phone is awesome but some of us were unlucky and either updated on accident (not likely, nor imaginable) or got a new or refurb device that was already updated, can we PLEASE get some ROMs/recovery support.
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is there any roms I can load on a locked 2.3.5? or am I out of luck? thanks
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Have you tried Lokifish's Deblur/Debloat script? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575259&highlight=deblur
I decided to do the above with my permalocked photon while I await the developers' progress on unlocking it. It works quite well in providing better performance. You might wanna make sure the custom bootstrap recovery is installed first. If you check out my confirmation thread in the photon general forum, you can see the exact steps I took to make it happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826385
Hope this helps.
So still no progress on unlocking the bootloader? Or downgrading to 2.3.4? IIRC, that's what I needed to do on my HTC Hero back in the day... But I doubt that is an option or else I would have found that mentioned as an easy solution.
One is up.
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So still no progress on unlocking the bootloader? Or downgrading to 2.3.4? IIRC, that's what I needed to do on my HTC Hero back in the day... But I doubt that is an option or else I would have found that mentioned as an easy solution.
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Personally, my device is unlocked but unfortunately, my girls device isn't. I had her device at one point and stupidly, updated to the first Moto Soak test a while back, not realizing what I was getting myself into lol. Luckily, she doesn't care about unlocking/custom ROMs, etc so she swapped devices with me and I've been flashing like its my day job ever since!!
Anyway, back to the initial topic...
I'm thinking/hoping that now that the Photon Q is out with ICS, that Motorola/Google will get on updating us to ICS officially! With any luck, when that update does eventually come, it'll come with a bootloader that is unlockable via Moto's new Bootloader Unlock Tool they recently released! Honestly, that would seem like the sensible thing to do and would of course make current Photon users VERY happy!
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how to make bootstrap clockwork recovery work
I had problems at first with the bootstrap recovery. What you have to do is open it and hit install recovery, once you get the success message hit it again, after the second success message plug in the phone and hit reboot. It will reboot to recovery every time. If you just hit install recovery then reboot it won't work
does anyone have the bootstrap apk? the link isnt working
foxsdaddy67 said:
does anyone have the bootstrap apk? the link isnt working
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This is the link I used to get the bootstrap recovery apk:
http://files.acsyndicate.net/pub/users/Steve/MOTODX2_Bootstrap_signed.apk <--Thanks to qbking77
If the direct link doesn't work, go to the following forum post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17302907
Find the custom bootstrap recovery video, go to the actual youtube page where the video is located, click show more, click on the link under "Bootstrap Recovery". The forum post that directs you too will have the link to the apk.
Hope this helps
Hi...
i've rooted, HTC unlocked my Sprint Evo 4G LTE as well as flashed the MeanROM.
Will be safe for the OTA i will receive soon for 4G LTE from sprint if i use the "Original Stock" ROM from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766628&highlight=original+stock
Or do i have to do the whole relocking the bootloader and using RUU, etc?
Thanks in advance !
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Hi...
i've rooted, HTC unlocked my Sprint Evo 4G LTE as well as flashed the MeanROM.
Will be safe for the OTA i will receive soon for 4G LTE from sprint if i use the "Original Stock" ROM from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766628&highlight=original+stock
Or do i have to do the whole relocking the bootloader and using RUU, etc?
Thanks in advance !
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never ever ever acceot a OTA from sprint!!! just flash the frimwear and radio zip in the bootloader.. and flash the new mean rom and u will be all set!!!!!
evo401 said:
never ever ever acceot a OTA from sprint!!! just flash the frimwear and radio zip in the bootloader.. and flash the new mean rom and u will be all set!!!!!
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So if i download that ROM that i linked to (Not the meanROM, the supposed stock ROM) and flashed it ... i still cannot accept any OTA updates?
I guess i just need an explanation as to why i can't receive OTAs on any ROM other than the official out of the box stock ROM. Is it the unlocked boot loader? Is is because it is rooted? Which ROMs will allow me to receive OTAs ?
If that is what's happening i would most definitely like to revert to stock as we have the new 4G LTE OTA update from Sprint coming soon here in, probably today, and i wont be around for my friend to flash his ROMs forever. It's starting to look like doing him a favor was a mistake. I should have only rooted it.
Any links, guides, or info about how to return his phone to stock as if right out of the box would be much appreciated. I made backups but i think he deleted them ...
Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.
exitpr0gram said:
So if i download that ROM that i linked to (Not the meanROM, the supposed stock ROM) and flashed it ... i still cannot accept any OTA updates?
I guess i just need an explanation as to why i can't receive OTAs on any ROM other than the official out of the box stock ROM. Is it the unlocked boot loader? Is is because it is rooted? Which ROMs will allow me to receive OTAs ?
If that is what's happening i would most definitely like to revert to stock as we have the new 4G LTE OTA update from Sprint coming soon here in, probably today, and i wont be around for my friend to flash his ROMs forever. It's starting to look like doing him a favor was a mistake. I should have only rooted it.
Any links, guides, or info about how to return his phone to stock as if right out of the box would be much appreciated. I made backups but i think he deleted them ...
Any help is much appreciated. Thank you.
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You never want to accept an OTA. Ever. If you do you can no longer gain s-off and it will severely hinder what you can flash from recovery.
Just flash any of the Roms and radios based on the newest update and you are done.
Once more for clarity...
NEVER ACCEPT AN OTA.
Teach your friend how to flash roms. Easy as pie
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Rxpert said:
You never want to accept an OTA. Ever. If you do you can no longer gain s-off and it will severely hinder what you can flash from recovery.
Just flash any of the Roms and radios based on the newest update and you are done.
Once more for clarity...
NEVER ACCEPT AN OTA.
Teach your friend how to flash roms. Easy as pie
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Thank you for that explanation. Why else would the developers add firmware updates separately on their pages? I should have known.
My buddy did say that he accepted an OTA even tho i told him not to... he said it snuck up on him and wouldn't have known if he hadn't needed to use his phone at THAT moment.
Could this be why i cannot find the backup i created previously? Just wondering ... I can obviously flash and root etc but the "Devil is in to detail" and i don't have all the details yet.
Thanks again.
I could be way wrong here, but I don't believe you can accept the OTA with a custom recovery installed. I tried doing the OTA and it simply rebooted into TWRP. I tried installing it from there and it kept failing. So I think you do have to re-lock, RUU, then update, then reroot. That's the path I took.
Or do what everyone else is suggesting and flash what the devs made.