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Why the hell didn't I try to restore my Nandroid backup done in Bootstrap ? I thought, "nah, I'm wasting my time, it's 2 different recoveries". Glad to see I was wrong. It's a long winded process but since nobody offers further P-Roms or any 2nd-init one, our only option for a while.
Cool beans.
Step 4 is what I missed, good thinking there Loki!
e-motion said:
Why the hell didn't I try to restore my Nandroid backup done in Bootstrap ? I thought, "nah, I'm wasting my time, it's 2 different recoveries". Glad to see I was wrong. It's a long winded process but since nobody offers further P-Roms or any 2nd-init one, our only option for a while.
Cool beans.
Step 4 is what I missed, good thinking there Loki!
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The reason I put bootstrap in step 4 was so you didn't have to install it later and to also provide a fall back on a fresh restore.
So how you liking the MoPho? I know I made a few people mad in the Evo community when I switched but consider what the MoPho can do out of the box was there any doubt where I'd end up?
Awesome! Thanks for the instructions.
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Awesome! Thanks for the instructions.
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I based it off of the unroot/root testing method I used when I was testing and providing analysis for teamwin and orrbemas on the Evo. I was hoping the original exploit I used for the Evo would work for Juggs' unlock but it didn't. I know it's not pretty and will most likely require that you repeat it for every custom ROM install but it will do for now.
Awesome,now I can get my 4g back to tether the iPad.
I registered just to say thanks! You guys do amazing work around here, been reading for a long time. This worked perfectly!
is this with an unlocked bootloader? and can i still use caulkins other recovery after?
rhyme187 said:
is this with an unlocked bootloader? and can i still use caulkins other recovery after?
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The short version is:
root
unlock bootloader
install recovery
install custom ROM
backup custom ROM
lock bootloader
root
restore custom ROM
enjoy 4G
Until there is a fix for unlocked 4g this is the only way to use run custom ROMs and still retain 4G. Every time you want to flash a ROM via recovery you need to repeat the steps.
Nice! I'll test this myself after work and add to the guide! Good job man!!
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Thanks I can confirm it does work. Nice find
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Thanks in will definitely do it as soon as I can. Losing 4g isn't an option since I'm lucky to live in a 4g city (Kansas City)
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Im currently updated to the newest software update for the mopho and it's rooted. Is there anyway I can do all of this without the use of a computer. I know its alot to ask for.
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I don't get Motorola devices. Why do we have to run bootstrap instead of just going into the custom recovery and backing up the rom there?
gpgorbosjr said:
I don't get Motorola devices. Why do we have to run bootstrap instead of just going into the custom recovery and backing up the rom there?
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Bootstrap isn't needed til after the relock and root so you have a rooted stock backup and the ability to restore the custom ROM.
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Bootstrap isn't needed til after the relock and root so you have a rooted stock backup and the ability to restore the custom ROM.
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But why couldn't I do the same thing only getting through CWM without having to use bootstrap? I must be missing something lol.
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But why couldn't I do the same thing only getting through CWM without having to use bootstrap? I must be missing something lol.
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After step 5 CWM is no longer on the phone so you can't backup/restore using CWM only bootstrap. Also, restoring the custom ROM through bootstrap on a rooted but LOCKED phone is the only way to retain 4G at this moment.
Lokifish Marz said:
After step 5 CWM is no longer on the phone so you can't backup/restore using CWM only bootstrap. Also, restoring the custom ROM through bootstrap on a rooted but LOCKED phone is the only way to retain 4G at this moment.
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Ok, I see. Some of these things were going through my head (Mostly what happens to the recovery when re-installing the Moto rom) but I was trying to not give myself a headache lol.
Lockfish...I added to MoPho Guide...thanks again!
So I finally rooted my Electrify(photon), I have insurance and **** and i've taken my phone scuba diving so I really dont care if I brick it at this point(just a reason for me to get a new phone).
Basically my question is, How can i go about getting an aftermarket ICS on it? I can use cynagon right? Someone link me please...? Can I use this? If so, What exactly is unlocking the bootloader?
Im still new at all the terminology, it's been forever since i've been in the Android dev scene....
Thanks a ton XDA!
-Chris
To flash CM9, or any unlocked ROM you need to install a custom recovery, usually clockworkmod. Idr about the electrify, but for the photon you need to flash the pudding unlocked file and run a few CMD lines in order to unlock the bootloader(kills 4g btw) and then you can install a custom recovery and be ready to flash unlocked ROMS. (same general process for electrifiy but iirc different files)IF you are on Android 2.3.5 your SOL.. For the time being atleast as you can't unlock its bootloader. QBKing has a few videos about the Photon on how to unlock, install CWM, and flash ROMS. There REALLY useful for beginners and people who need to be refreshed on what exactly to do. Don't quote me on the exact steps as I have a Photon and never looked too in depth about the electrify, wait for someone else to chime in to verify or search around.
You were a lot of help so far, and yes I am running stock 2.3.5...I installed cwm, but I have yet to unlock the boot loader, and as you stated, I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon. But what exactly does unlocking the bootloader do...?
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My understanding is this...
Photon and Electrify 2.3.4 can unlock the bootloader.
Photon 2.3.5 can run something called bootstrap. (There is no legit Photon 2.3.5 from Sprint, but some bleeding-edge MoPho's have flashed 2.3.5 anyway and found themselves in a world of pain.)
Electrify 2.3.5 can do neither. I asked about it here and as of now 143 people have looked at it but haven't replied... Then again, it's the weekend, but I also asked in a topic about the bootstrap a week ago, and nobody there knew either.
So I think with Electrify 2.3.5 rooting is all you can do.
And that's fine, Electrify is beast anyway.
We're supposed to get official ICS in Q2 2012 (or was it Q3?). I don't know fiscal quarters, but Q1 starts in Spring, I think, so I guess summer or late summer?
I don't care about ICS and I don't see why I should. I change launchers weekly and I'm always rotating software on my phone. I'm more interested in getting the bootloader unlocked, but I don't think Motorola has any plans for that.
While it's true you can't unlock the bootloader on 2.3.5 yet, that means that you can't flash kernels and some roms. There are some that work with a locked bootloader. Loki has an Imperium version. Rocko has some versions for locked phones. And there is this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575259 from loki. It will strip the bloat and blur from your phone, and give it some tweaks. This with the launcher of your choice makes for a great phone.
Exactly what post above said. I'll just add on saying that without an unlocked bootloader there is no way to get ICS. Use locked roms and try different launchers and you can still have a sweet phone until official ics or we unlock 2.3.5
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What is blur and bloat?? And what ROM is best..? As far as locked boot loaders go...
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Crispy, Blur is Motorola's enhancement suite for Android. It contains Motorola Home, and all the Motorola apps like the gallery, music player, and widgets. And the stupid lock screen. (I hate Motorola's lock screen. A lot.) HTC's is called Sense and Samsung's is called TouchWiz. They all have one. Very few Android phones are straight-up Android.
Bloat is anything on top of AOSP (Android Open Source Project) and the Google apps. This includes Blur/Sense/TouchWiz, technically, though most don't consider those bloat. If you have US Cellular, City ID is the epitome of bloat. It doesn't work as advertised, it's always there, and it will nag you to pay for it sometimes. Bloat on US Cellular phones also includes Tone Room Deluxe, Your Navigator Deluxe, My Contacts Backup, and the QuickOffice demo. Sprint has a whole other set of bloat apps.
Bricky -- So I don't need bootstrap? Or I do?
Crispy again: On your home screen, hit Menu, Settings, and then About Phone. Near the bottom look for "Android version". If it says 2.3.4 below, you can unlock your bootloader. If it says 2.3.5, you cannot.
I know ha, and I'm on 2.3.5 just like youuu:/ but it appears that there are like someee rom's that can be used without unlocking the bootloader...
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Yes you need bootstrap. Root your phone, install bootstrap, make nandroid backup in bootstrap , install rom = profit
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bricky23 said:
Yes you need bootstrap. Root your phone, install bootstrap, make nandroid backup in bootstrap , install rom = profit
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You need an UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER to install a ROM my friend....There are a few decent ROM's that dont require an UL loader, but to get a really nice ROM an unlocked bootloader appears to be greatly needed. I really wish Moto wasn't such a giant douche.
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You were a lot of help so far, and yes I am running stock 2.3.5...I installed cwm, but I have yet to unlock the boot loader, and as you stated, I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon. But what exactly does unlocking the bootloader do...?
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You have cwm installed on a 2.3.5 Electrify with a locked bl??
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You have cwm installed on a 2.3.5 Electrify with a locked bl??
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Im sure he's meaning bootstrap in that post.. you can't install custom recovery while locked..
w0lf215 said:
Im sure he's meaning bootstrap in that post.. you can't install custom recovery while locked..
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Yes, I ment bootstrap.
Also, how does nandroid backups work? Does it backup EVERYTHING? whats the difference in outcome with Titanium backup VS recovery nandroid backups...?
i really want ics on my electrify.. but i ve a electgrify 2.3.5 with locked bootloader..
is it possible to do it?
I run AOKP build 38 on my mopho, it's a little buggy. My advice is to run one of the slimmed down stock ROMS mentioned previously. Wait for the official build, then there will be a bunch of devs making perfectly tuned apps.
Universal DeBlur-DeBloat Live ROM Conversion is the only ROM that requires root ONLY. It was written to help those that can't even run bootstrap. Think of it as Imperium Initiative without the theme change and custom kernel.
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I run AOKP build 38 on my mopho, it's a little buggy. My advice is to run one of the slimmed down stock ROMS mentioned previously. Wait for the official build, then there will be a bunch of devs making perfectly tuned apps.
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ICS is official announcied from motorola to moto electrify?
No, only Photon.
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No, only Photon.
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it s a bad notice :S
developers are working to unlock the BL of lectrify
is there any roms I can load on a locked 2.3.5? or am I out of luck? thanks
I believe we are currently stuck. At this time, there is no way to unlock the bootloader which is what is needed (along with gaining root access) to successfully flash custom ROMS. We are still able to root using the photon-torpedo method but beyond that, we sit and wait.
There are other methods of customizing by using Bootstrap recovery, which one would use as an option if you chose NOT to unlock the bootloader and then you can flash some ROMS and other stuff that way. It's been working great for most on 2.3.4 but I'm not 100% sure about 2.3.5 yet....I'm still looking into that myself.
I don't see why bootstrap recovery option wouldn't work on 2.3.5 because it's used on devices with locked bootloader anyway.
For real tho, at the rate the Dev's work around here, I wouldn't be surprised if they crack the bootloader issue on 2.3.5 sooner than later and we'll be flashing this that and everything else before we know it!
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So right now you have no way to do a nandroid?
With all due respect - what part of "locked" is unclear to you all?
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So right now you have no way to do a nandroid?
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Not sure if I can or not to be honest. I have ROM Toolbox Pro & ROM Manager Premium installed but I haven't tried creating a backup of my current ROM (which for me is Stock OS 2.3.5 and rooted with some minor tweaks/mods done). I guess I always assumed it was only useful if I had CWM Recovery flashed and/or was using a custom ROM.
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Not to beat a dead horse here. But can you install bootstrap recovery on a rooted, full ota 2.3.5. soak updated photon?
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Not to beat a dead horse here. But can you install bootstrap recovery on a rooted, full ota 2.3.5. soak updated photon?
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Yes, you can! I'm currently in the same state as you and have been successfully using bootstrap recovery for the past few days.
Works perfectly as far as I can tell!
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Jleeblanch said:
Yes, you can! I'm currently in the same state as you and have been successfully using bootstrap recovery for the past few days.
Works perfectly as far as I can tell!
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The nandroid backup and recovery work as well?
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The nandroid backup and recovery work as well?
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YES!! I used the dx2.apk from another post on here. Followed the instructions and booted into recovery. I did a Nandroid backup. After doing some research I found a thread about a Rerecovery option that makes the flashing process a little easier being that after a factory and/or data wipe, your BSR will be gone. With Rerecovery, you just flash the files as the last step of a CWMR session and BSR will be restored prior to Rebooting!
The info, instructions and download links regarding rerecovery and bootstrap recovery are in this post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1426062
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I think mofs releasing a build for all you sad permalocked people
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I think mofs releasing a build for all you sad permalocked people
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That's what's good!! Also, I believe Rockos 2.3.5 ROM (locked version in second post or bottom of first) works too!
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That's what's good!! Also, I believe Rockos 2.3.5 ROM (locked version in second post or bottom of first) works too!
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Any news on this guys? seems like this thread died off. I had a bionic, and there was plenty of dev support just by using bootstrap. This phone is awesome but some of us were unlucky and either updated on accident (not likely, nor imaginable) or got a new or refurb device that was already updated, can we PLEASE get some ROMs/recovery support.
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is there any roms I can load on a locked 2.3.5? or am I out of luck? thanks
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Have you tried Lokifish's Deblur/Debloat script? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1575259&highlight=deblur
I decided to do the above with my permalocked photon while I await the developers' progress on unlocking it. It works quite well in providing better performance. You might wanna make sure the custom bootstrap recovery is installed first. If you check out my confirmation thread in the photon general forum, you can see the exact steps I took to make it happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826385
Hope this helps.
So still no progress on unlocking the bootloader? Or downgrading to 2.3.4? IIRC, that's what I needed to do on my HTC Hero back in the day... But I doubt that is an option or else I would have found that mentioned as an easy solution.
One is up.
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So still no progress on unlocking the bootloader? Or downgrading to 2.3.4? IIRC, that's what I needed to do on my HTC Hero back in the day... But I doubt that is an option or else I would have found that mentioned as an easy solution.
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Personally, my device is unlocked but unfortunately, my girls device isn't. I had her device at one point and stupidly, updated to the first Moto Soak test a while back, not realizing what I was getting myself into lol. Luckily, she doesn't care about unlocking/custom ROMs, etc so she swapped devices with me and I've been flashing like its my day job ever since!!
Anyway, back to the initial topic...
I'm thinking/hoping that now that the Photon Q is out with ICS, that Motorola/Google will get on updating us to ICS officially! With any luck, when that update does eventually come, it'll come with a bootloader that is unlockable via Moto's new Bootloader Unlock Tool they recently released! Honestly, that would seem like the sensible thing to do and would of course make current Photon users VERY happy!
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how to make bootstrap clockwork recovery work
I had problems at first with the bootstrap recovery. What you have to do is open it and hit install recovery, once you get the success message hit it again, after the second success message plug in the phone and hit reboot. It will reboot to recovery every time. If you just hit install recovery then reboot it won't work
does anyone have the bootstrap apk? the link isnt working
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does anyone have the bootstrap apk? the link isnt working
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This is the link I used to get the bootstrap recovery apk:
http://files.acsyndicate.net/pub/users/Steve/MOTODX2_Bootstrap_signed.apk <--Thanks to qbking77
If the direct link doesn't work, go to the following forum post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17302907
Find the custom bootstrap recovery video, go to the actual youtube page where the video is located, click show more, click on the link under "Bootstrap Recovery". The forum post that directs you too will have the link to the apk.
Hope this helps
Ok so i have been out of the ROM loop for a bit, so i figured i would ask questions before trying to do so. I am wanting to run the newest ROMs running the leaked ICS VM base, but everywhere i see, it says to upgrade your firmware? I've looked all over the place and have yet to see the upgradeable firmware i need to do so! Can anyone please clarify this for me or at least point me in the right direction.
You don't need to upgrade anything. I'm on the original firmware and the only thing that was working,but has since stopped was the camera. I also haven't updated the rom since it was released, so that could be the problem. I did run into a problem when I first installed it. Using rm -rf instead of formatting the partitions did not work. It kept boot looping, but changing it back to format worked.
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well see my issue now is that i flashed it just fine like i would any other ROM (no FW upgrade) but it sits on the splash screen. this now happens with ALL ICS ROMs. at first they randomly rebooted but now the only ones that work on it are older ROMS (GB, FROYO) but ICS will not boot. i guess i might have to wait until the offical release hits for us
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well see my issue now is that i flashed it just fine like i would any other ROM (no FW upgrade) but it sits on the splash screen. this now happens with ALL ICS ROMs. at first they randomly rebooted but now the only ones that work on it are older ROMS (GB, FROYO) but ICS will not boot. i guess i might have to wait until the offical release hits for us
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DO NOT FLASH THE VIRGIN MOBILE FIRMWARE / VIRUS!!!!!!!!
As for the bootlooping, if you are hboot 1.5 s-on, then ICS does that unless you use Chad's kernel (which breaks USB and 3d camera). I recommend you get s-off by downgrading to hboot 1.4 or use the wire trick. See my signature or the stickes in the cdma development forum (assuming you are CDMA) for more information.
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Calm down bud. There is no virus but he is correct. Do not update if you have hboot 1.5 if you are s off then fire ahead using the update package from freeza. Then use the mod to convert it to sprint. After that go be flash happy.
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I'm not the one who called it a virus - many of the devs who worked tirelessly trying to rid our phones of that firmware coined that one. From what I've read throughout the forums, I would highly recommend against flashing that, even using the mod to convert it to Sprint. Every ICS ROM I have tried (CDMA) has ran fine using Freeza's all in one version 2.17.
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Well if he gets s offed then he can choose himself haha. I prefer to use the vm firmware. Seems perfect for me. But yet again I've been here from the beginning. Got s off the first day revolutionary was released to public and all that.
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Could be only s-on people had issues removing it, but I personally would not risk it. The ics roms all work fine without it if you are s-off. Deadlocked I am genuinely asking (seriously not trying to be argumentative): what benefit you see from using it since afaik, there is none.
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Hey folks, a while back performance on the stock Motorola ROM on my Photon 4G got so horrible that I flashed peetr's excellent stock/CM7 hybrid ROM - which is usable with the locked bootloader. It works much better. However I've since switched from Sprint over to Ting, but they can't activate my Photon with peetr's ROM and (after trying - their customer service is pretty good) said I would need to reflash it to stock so they could activate it.
I'm sorry for posting this but I've searched and dug around through the guides and can't really find a good guide to simply flashing back to stock, nor an image of the Sprint stock ROM (after the OTA update that locked the boot loader). Can anyone help? I'm practically ready to buy a used Photon running stock and try to sell this one just to avoid the hassle but I figured I'd ask.
Edit: there is this list of stock ROMs but I don't know which to use since my Photon got the crippling OTA update. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20331570&postcount=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30332325
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Thanks very much - can I just flash the correct one by renaming it update.zip and using Bootstrap Recovery?
I do have to click 'Install Recovery' and then 'Recovery Mode' in the Bootstrap Recovery app each time to get a working recovery boot, if that makes any difference.