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Hello everyone I am new to Android world as of today. I've been on iPhone for the past 2 years and honestly apple has nothing compared to Android. My galaxy note is like a handheld computer... like holy s**t I'm so overwhelmed right now. But as a noobie I do have a couple questions...
Is it worth rooting and flashing a custom ics ROM (what's the best ics ROM to date) when my service provider Telus is releasing ics by early July?
Also, is it possible for me to download the official ics via ota with a rooted phone? If so how do I do that. I've read threads that sometimes rooting disables ota download.
Thanks for looking and I apologize for being a dumba**.
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Are you new to android? Then experience your android phone as it is without rooting just yet. As you experience your phone and read some threads you will get to know if rooting is for you or not. This also will allow you to see if your phone may have issues.
If you want the OTA Telus ICS then I suggest you don't root. I don't believe you would receive the OTA unless you were stock unrooted. So my suggestion would be to hang in there for a little time.
Welcome, and congratulations on seeing the light!
The ICS roms we have are awesome so far, with only a couple random bugs that don't keep them from being daily drivers. I definitely recommend rooting and romming if you take the time to read up on everything you can about it. It's a very simple process if you take your time, and definitely worth learning.
Also, if you feel like doing the official update get familiar with how to go back to stock. When you go back to stock, it renews your warranty and also your ability to receive official firmware updates.
Personally, I think that custom roms are better than official, and once your official is released, you will be able to get a rooted version on here within a day out two at most usually. The only time my Samsung phones have ever had stock software is the first and only the first day I have them, and also if I need to do a warranty exchange
Edit: not seeing a stock package for Telus, stop I would hold on for a bit or try to work with a developer to get them what they need to set up a stock Odin package for Telus users.
Second edit: actually it looks like there is a stock package for you. I can help more with some links later, but can't right now
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Welcome to the best phone world you can imagine and you made a wise choice to pick up the big boss aka the G note...youll love it stock or rooted and with customs roms on it....this community is the best and has some great devs also any rom you choose your gonna love their rom believe me....Ive been to here and went to the htc one x and to the international note and now im back to stay....those other phones couldnt compare to this one...the international note is brick heaven and the htc one x is just too damn small when your coming from a note lol....but if you love having your phone tweaked out like me then yes root and rom it out lol...but if all that doesnt matter than you can stay stock and still love the phone just as much....but once again wise choice on the phone and glad to have you here....
Please make yourself familiar with the phone first like everybody else suggested. I have gone through few android phones and I still have so much to learn especially when it comes to rooting and loading roms. With samsung, there's a flash counter if you care about warranty and what not even though there are ways to go around it. I have rooted mine but staying on the stock rom and waiting for the official ICS rom. GB rom is perfectly working fine for my needs.
Please read and read over and over everything before you go ahead and mess around with the rom.
mutantblack said:
Please make yourself familiar with the phone first like everybody else suggested. I have gone through few android phones and I still have so much to learn especially when it comes to rooting and loading roms. With samsung, there's a flash counter if you care about warranty and what not even though there are ways to go around it. I have rooted mine but staying on the stock rom and waiting for the official ICS rom. GB rom is perfectly working fine for my needs.
Please read and read over and over everything before you go ahead and mess around with the rom.
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There is a flash counter reset, so that's basically a null point. Plus, many people have had no problem returning or exchanging with it tripped.
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Yes. I know there is. That's why I said there are ways to go around. I have rooted mine with the one roloracer posted and can use CWM to flash all different roms without even tripping the flash counter to begin with. One less step of needing to reset the counter.
I just want OP to be aware of it.
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Yes. I know there is. That's why I said there are ways to go around. I have rooted mine with the one roloracer posted and can use CWM to flash all different roms without even tripping the flash counter to begin with. One less step of needing to reset the counter.
I just want OP to be aware of it.
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Ah, I forgot flashing from cwm doesn't up the counter. Good point.
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Wow you guys have been really helpful thank you very much
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No problem. Here's a good guide for you to read. Just read everything you can before doing anything and you'll soon be unleashing the beast they call the galaxy note.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586223
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Welcome Android! The Note is my first Android phone. I also came from iPhone and don't regret the move at all. Note is the best overall phone experience I've had.
This is sort of on topic, is there a comparison thread of the different roms and what they have to offer vs. others? That kind of thread might be really helpful for new and seasoned pros.
cmunho said:
Welcome Android! The Note is my first Android phone. I also came from iPhone and don't regret the move at all. Note is the best overall phone experience I've had.
This is sort of on topic, is there a comparison thread of the different roms and what they have to offer vs. others? That kind of thread might be really helpful for new and seasoned pros.
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pretty much the only diff in roms are
CM9 & AOKP have all the bell & whistles ...such as tweaks and etc...
the others are stock based with addition add ons...either way you gonna love it...we have awesome devs in this community...as youll soon see....and glad to have you in the note community...
CM9 is Android at it's best.
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CM9 is Android at it's best.
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I agree coffin but that im leaning toward aokp...love it lol....but both are amazing...
alewis2k12 said:
pretty much the only diff in roms are
CM9 & AOKP have all the bell & whistles ...such as tweaks and etc...
the others are stock based with addition add ons...either way you gonna love it...we have awesome devs in this community...as youll soon see....and glad to have you in the note community...
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just know that you will lose a lot of the S-pen and all Touchwiz capabilities if/when you go with any version of cm9, aokp, or aosp.
I'd stock with GB for a few weeks so you can get used to the menu interfaces and lingo surrounding Android. After that, game on!
Welcome to Android, friend.
Normally, when I first buy a phone, I like to play around with it stock for a few months before flashing the radio or switching roms etc. Just to get familiar with the phone. Since you're new to the whole Android platform, you should definitely get used to it first since there are endless possibilities you can play around with even with a stock rom.
An official ICS 4.0.3 has already been confirmed for release, why not wait for it? An official update will always be 100% safer and run a lot smoother.
This is what I recommend and I am going to be patiently waiting for the ICS 4.0 to officially be released. It's just a matter of time.
How many times have we seen a user new to android/note that root, flash, and ATTEMPT to reset the flash counter only to come to this board crying that their phone is bricked? (one or two a month?)
As others said, if you root/flash, when Ice Cream Sandwich becomes available from your carrier, you will not get it.
If you do root/flash, DON'T worry about the flash counter because if something goes wrong with reseting the flash counter, you might have a brick but most likely several hours of panic/frustration trying to get your phone working.
Jim Dead said:
How many times have we seen a user new to android/note that root, flash, and ATTEMPT to reset the flash counter only to come to this board crying that their phone is bricked? (one or two a month?)
As others said, if you root/flash, when Ice Cream Sandwich becomes available from your carrier, you will not get it.
If you do root/flash, DON'T worry about the flash counter because if something goes wrong with reseting the flash counter, you might have a brick but most likely several hours of panic/frustration trying to get your phone working.
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Its more so a new user to xda thing as I see it. Yes, its partially a new to android thing, but if they learned how to search and read and learn everything they can, all of the info is out there to safely do anything. I had one brick way back when with my captivate, and from that point on I made sure to read as much as possible before doing anything. New users think they will just have everything handed to them and it will work perfectly, which is where they run into problems because they don't know of all the common problems and mistakes due to taking the fast track instead of actually learning about the processes.
Bottom line is they need to not only search and read, but also absorb and understand the material that is available on this site.
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welchertc said:
Its more so a new user to xda thing as I see it. Yes, its partially a new to android thing, but if they learned how to search and read and learn everything they can, all of the info is out there to safely do anything. I had one brick way back when with my captivate, and from that point on I made sure to read as much as possible before doing anything. New users think they will just have everything handed to them and it will work perfectly, which is where they run into problems because they don't know of all the common problems and mistakes due to taking the fast track instead of actually learning about the processes.
Bottom line is they need to not only search and read, but also absorb and understand the material that is available on this site.
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Perfectly said!
The more a user reads and researches the less cluttering threads we have and the more they learn
Which the MAJORITY of people here don't do..
Sad.. truly sad but let them brick their devices as a consequence lol
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My advise would be to wait at least a month, do your research, stay on top of the forums, read all the important threads, etc. When I moved over from iPhone I waited about a month and even though it is soooo much easier to root an Android then jailbreaking an iPhone, its just means its that much more easier to make mistakes. Take your time, don't rush it Welcome to the dark side.
Just curious to know if developers think the note is that bad? I am surprised that at this time with a totally unlocked Note there is only 4 give or take ROMs available for us, which in reality only 2 are kept up to date.
Yet, i browsed the T-mobile section and there are more than a handful with constant updating....
I know one of the main reasons is the price of the Note, developers do this for free and to obtain a note it obviously cost money...but is that the only reason?
What are your thoughts?
nope
My thoughts are that there are already three or me threads complaining about the development. We don't need more, build your own ROM if you think we need more.
Also, learn to count. There are 3-4 TW ROMs, and Eclipse will be dropping soon. They're are also multiple AOSP ROMs (liquid smooth, beans, AOKP, official cm10.1 to name a few)
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I thought the same when I bought my s3 and it picked up. I just upgraded to the note2 and like that scottsroms and beans are available. They are solid builds and there are plenty of mods that are available to accent those. There are more coming from what I understand so be patient. I think the biggest problem for us is verizon messing with our bootloader all the time.
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Keep in mind, VZW was the last carrier to release the note2. That, coupled with the fact that with the exception of the gnex, a lot of the top tier unlockable bootloader devices are on other carriers...
It continues to improve and the phone has only been around for ~3 months.
t0ltecdma getting official cm10.1 is a huge step in the right direction.
kintwofan said:
My thoughts are that there are already three or me threads complaining about the development. We don't need more, build your own ROM if you think we need more.
Also, learn to count. There are 3-4 TW ROMs, and Eclipse will be dropping soon. They're are also multiple AOSP ROMs (liquid smooth, beans, AOKP, official cm10.1 to name a few)
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Well no need to start with the insults...i said "4 give or take" . The 2 roms that i said are kept up to date from what i found is CleanROM and Beans, (ok there may be AOKP and others) but i am attached to TW and i have used both and have no complaints, but i am like the majority of the members here, i like to try different roms here and there nothing wrong with that, right?.
If i knew how or had the time to build a ROM i would, unfortunately i don't so i let the professionals do the nasty work, I am not demanding the devs to hurry up, it was just a simple question to try to get my self educated on the lack of devs for the note 2.
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Keep in mind, VZW was the last carrier to release the note2. That, coupled with the fact that with the exception of the gnex, a lot of the top tier unlockable bootloader devices are on other carriers...
It continues to improve and the phone has only been around for ~3 months.
t0ltecdma getting official cm10.1 is a huge step in the right direction.
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I fully understand, i was just curious to know as i had the S3 since release, and as soon as the bootloader got unlocked the Development of it went higher.
Bert336 said:
Well no need to start with the insults...i said "4 give or take" . The 2 roms that i said are kept up to date from what i found is CleanROM and Beans, (ok there may be AOKP and others) but i am attached to TW and i have used both and have no complaints, but i am like the majority of the members here, i like to try different roms here and there nothing wrong with that, right?.
If i knew how or had the time to build a ROM i would, unfortunately i don't so i let the professionals do the nasty work, I am not demanding the devs to hurry up, it was just a simple question to try to get my self educated on the lack of devs for the note 2.
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Well there is beans, clean lite, the Verizon clean, a 4.2.1 clean. Eclipse will be here very shortly and the dev of jedi said his is coming soon too. Also, whether it's your favorite or not the AOSP based are still development and those are piling up.
By the I would have flashed a different ROM every day on my s3 so I know about switching it up. My point was we keep getting these threads when I personally think one asking why there isn't more development is to many.
But to answer your question it's a 600 phone (developers work for free) that's been out for 3 months and had a locked (then relocked) boot loader.
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If you actually look at most of these roms on other carriers you'll see that they're just re-themes and the same combination of kitchen tweaks. In other words, just slightly different flavors of the same framework. I seriously don't feel like we're missing out on anything. Not to mention most of these roms on other carriers will port over just fine, it takes about the time and effort required to complain on an internet forum about a problem you could fix yourself.
broprah said:
If you actually look at most of these roms on other carriers you'll see that they're just re-themes and the same combination of kitchen tweaks. In other words, just slightly different flavors of the same framework. I seriously don't feel like we're missing out on anything. Not to mention most of these roms on other carriers will port over just fine, it takes about the time and effort required to complain on an internet forum about a problem you could fix yourself.
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This
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kintwofan said:
Well there is beans, clean lite, the Verizon clean, a 4.2.1 clean. Eclipse will be here very shortly and the dev of jedi said his is coming soon too. Also, whether it's your favorite or not the AOSP based are still development and those are piling up.
By the I would have flashed a different ROM every day on my s3 so I know about switching it up. My point was we keep getting these threads when I personally think one asking why there isn't more development is to many.
But to answer your question it's a 600 phone (developers work for free) that's been out for 3 months and had a locked (then relocked) boot loader.
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Liquid too!
As long as I have Eclipse I have no need to flash anything else. Not putting the other roms down I have ran clean rom and beans and they are good roms. But Eclipse is all I need
As long as I have Beans & my favorite red/black theme, I don't need anything else myself.....
I think this device has the perfect amount of development...I like the fact there is not 100 versions of the same thing cluttering up the dev section.
kintwofan said:
My thoughts are that there are already three or me threads complaining about the development. We don't need more, build your own ROM if you think we need more.
Also, learn to count. There are 3-4 TW ROMs, and Eclipse will be dropping soon. They're are also multiple AOSP ROMs (liquid smooth, beans, AOKP, official cm10.1 to name a few)
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Beans isn't an AOSP rom, it's just themed that way.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Beans isn't an AOSP rom, it's just themed that way.
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Yes I meant baked bean. Didn't want to type it out. I'm running beans
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37374134
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kintwofan said:
Well there is beans, clean lite, the Verizon clean, a 4.2.1 clean. Eclipse will be here very shortly and the dev of jedi said his is coming soon too. Also, whether it's your favorite or not the AOSP based are still development and those are piling up.
By the I would have flashed a different ROM every day on my s3 so I know about switching it up. My point was we keep getting these threads when I personally think one asking why there isn't more development is to many.
But to answer your question it's a 600 phone (developers work for free) that's been out for 3 months and had a locked (then relocked) boot loader.
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What did I miss? Where is 4.2.1 clean for the Note 2?
The Note 2 just received official CM 10.1 nightlies, so once some of the kinks are ironed out (which may not be until Samsung releases a 4.2 update), we'll probably see a lot more development coming. CM 10.1 is the base for pretty much every rom except AOKP and PA. And again, we only have official nightly builds so far, not official "stable" builds and that may deter a few devs until we see full blown support.
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What did I miss? Where is 4.2.1 clean for the Note 2?
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Boy I was full of typos I meant 4.1.2
And just since my typing was horrible, this is the one I meant
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37284311
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Which would be your preference? I have a trade option to 16 gb nexus 4 for my E970 with 32 gb.
I don't care much for drop in storage but wanted to see what you guys think if this is a good idea. Lack of LTE concerns me a bit as I have LTE in my town and around but hoping to be able to adjust with that.
Chirunavvutho said:
Which would be your preference? I have a trade option to 16 gb nexus 4 for my E970 with 32 gb.
I don't care much for drop in storage but wanted to see what you guys think if this is a good idea. Lack of LTE concerns me a bit as I have LTE in my town and around but hoping to be able to adjust with that.
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I'm not you, but this would be a no-brainer for me. Keep swapped LGOG.
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I keep hearing a thing or two don't work 100% after N4 conversion. Modem issues, GPS issues or Camera, occasional Calls drop etc.
Why is N4 conversion still an unsupported mod as far as senior devs in the forum?
To get 100% pure google and 100% working, if the conversion works, I'll go down that route as well.
Chirunavvutho said:
I keep hearing a thing or two don't work 100% after N4 conversion. Modem issues, GPS issues or Camera, occasional Calls drop etc.
Why is N4 conversion still an unsupported mod as far as senior devs in the forum?
To get 100% pure google and 100% working, if the conversion works, I'll go down that route as well.
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Everything is working perfectly for me on the latest PA. Camera, LTE, GPS, internal / external SD, NFC, etc etc. I'd say give the N4 conversion a try. Chances are, the guy you're doing the trade with is going for the N4 conversion lol. I was dead set against it until the 16gb internal was fixed. Since that's been done, I'm definitely loving my LGOG more than I did before.
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Chirunavvutho said:
I keep hearing a thing or two don't work 100% after N4 conversion. Modem issues, GPS issues or Camera, occasional Calls drop etc.
Why is N4 conversion still an unsupported mod as far as senior devs in the forum?
To get 100% pure google and 100% working, if the conversion works, I'll go down that route as well.
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Im on converted and 100% working. Gps, LTE, NFC, 16gb + 64gb ext, no FC, no reboots, good battery life, etc.
I respect the original dev for LGOP but they are months behind the converted in features, bugs, etc. Maybe when they catch up I'll go back to unconverted.
I recommend the modded CM 10.1 found in LGOP Dev forum.
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Conversion works great but for whatever reason the few devs hate it and will not support it. I have been running the conversion since day 1 and my phone still working great, I have my partitions backed up just in case but I have never used them anyway.
I agree original dev for the lgog is way behind because they choose to not support the future(N4 conversion).
Mark my words: When key lime pie drops guess which dev side will run it first? N4 conversion of course... by that time all the original devs would have moved on... they probably already did as I'm yet to see 100% fully working rom on the original section...
Ultimately do what you want since you were the one that paid for the phone and you are entitled to do whatever you please with it. Dont let poeple scare you about the conversion as it is the best option available for us.
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Im on converted and 100% working. Gps, LTE, NFC, 16gb + 64gb ext, no FC, no reboots, good battery life, etc.
I respect the original dev for LGOP but they are months behind the converted in features, bugs, etc. Maybe when they catch up I'll go back to unconverted.
I recommend the modded CM 10.1 found in LGOP Dev forum.
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So once we are converted to N4. What are the other Mod(s) you did for everything to work (Stock n4 Not CM or other)? Just curious... or may be I will take a plunge today. Also can you please let us know if we need to do any other backup;s other than our Personal data like Partitions etc... Not new to Flashing or Rom Dev.. But its just so many threads in here in the dev area.. Just want to save some time and bricks.
It would be really helpful if you can link them... Like n4, Then do this Link and then etc etc.. This way other's can also use this info.
In no way I'm asking to spoon feed.. It's just I searched around and its all over the place. If you or any other person help create a new post with simple instructions that would be great. Again if you guy's are busy or don't want to create its OK too.
At the outset thanks a lot.
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So once we are converted to N4. What are the other Mod(s) you did for everything to work (Stock n4 Not CM or other)? Just curious... or may be I will take a plunge today. Also can you please let us know if we need to do any other backup;s other than our Personal data like Partitions etc... Not new to Flashing or Rom Dev.. But its just so many threads in here in the dev area.. Just want to save some time and bricks.
It would be really helpful if you can link them... Like n4, Then do this Link and then etc etc.. This way other's can also use this info.
In no way I'm asking to spoon feed.. It's just I searched around and its all over the place. If you or any other person help create a new post with simple instructions that would be great. Again if you guy's are busy or don't want to create its OK too.
At the outset thanks a lot.
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There are threads for it in the development section near the top
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Googler_1976 said:
So once we are converted to N4. What are the other Mod(s) you did for everything to work (Stock n4 Not CM or other)? Just curious... or may be I will take a plunge today. Also can you please let us know if we need to do any other backup;s other than our Personal data like Partitions etc... Not new to Flashing or Rom Dev.. But its just so many threads in here in the dev area.. Just want to save some time and bricks.
It would be really helpful if you can link them... Like n4, Then do this Link and then etc etc.. This way other's can also use this info.
In no way I'm asking to spoon feed.. It's just I searched around and its all over the place. If you or any other person help create a new post with simple instructions that would be great. Again if you guy's are busy or don't want to create its OK too.
At the outset thanks a lot.
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I agree with you... It would be nice to have a compilation thread with links to all the separate mod threads. I was actually thinking about making such a thread but I haven't had the time yet, and I'm not sure I have a good enough handle on all the little details yet to get it right.
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Are you guys talking about this..?
Or the fixes that are already listed in Android Dev? Which will usually start with [FIX] or [HOWTO].
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Are you guys talking about this..?
Or the fixes that are already listed in Android Dev? Which will usually start with [FIX] or [HOWTO].
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Well, I was contemplating a compilation thread that would include links and summaries of the various threads in the dev forum. A one-stop-shop type of deal. Of course this would require a significant amount of thread maintenance, which I can't guarantee I'll have time for...
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I have been skimming the N4 thread and have heard late can be used by changing radios. So I guess its really whether or not you want a phone without sdcard and not as purty in my opinion
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Without a doubt keep the converted OG. There's no good reason not to tbh.
I would love to do the stable conversion, but I tried twice last night and got stuck at Nexus boot logo. I did fastboot -w many times but it was always getting stuck there. Plus my recovery started asking me for password etc, (weird). I did lgnpst and am back to 100% stock and Bootloader locked, no root etc.
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Well, I was contemplating a compilation thread that would include links and summaries of the various threads in the dev forum. A one-stop-shop type of deal. Of course this would require a significant amount of thread maintenance, which I can't guarantee I'll have time for...
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That's Exactly what I meant. The only Reason I asked was.... there are so many small tiny mod(s) which can be applied on some and cannot be on something else.
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A complete guide for N4 Conversion...
Prerequisites.
Should be rooted
Backups:
1.Backup using Titanium backup all you personal data including Call logs,SMS. etc etc.
2. Backup your current partitions.
3. Other Stuff like (It can be any thing) Pics... Or through CWM complete Nand backup.
Now the Actual Stuff
Steps:
1. Go to this thread <Link here> and follow the steps. (Now your phone is N4 Converted)
2. Flash This version of CWM using this thread <Link here>
3. Now you have 8GB N4. To make it 16GB Go to this <Link> and Follow the steps.
4. Now you have N4 With 16GB but your Radio Still sucks (No LTE + APN's etc) cos you need At&T radio .. Go to this <Link> and Flash this to get At&T modem
5. Now you have everything But... Now of the captivate buttons works.. So flash this <Link>
NOW you have completely converted LGOG to N4
For Custom Rom
Go to this <LInk>
To Revert back to original LGOG:
1. Run this <Link> Lgpnst
2. Get back your OLD partitions (E.g. This Link)
Etc etc.
it would be good.. If someone who has done it successfully and have "EVERYTHING WORKING" Fill in the blanks.
Googler_1976 said:
That's Exactly what I meant. The only Reason I asked was.... there are so many small tiny mod(s) which can be applied on some and cannot be on something else.
E.g.
A complete guide for N4 Conversion...
Prerequisites.
Should be rooted
Backups:
1.Backup using Titanium backup all you personal data including Call logs,SMS. etc etc.
2. Backup your current partitions.
3. Other Stuff like (It can be any thing) Pics... Or through CWM complete Nand backup.
Now the Actual Stuff
Steps:
1. Go to this thread <Link here> and follow the steps. (Now your phone is N4 Converted)
2. Flash This version of CWM using this thread <Link here>
3. Now you have 8GB N4. To make it 16GB Go to this <Link> and Follow the steps.
4. Now you have N4 With 16GB but your Radio Still sucks (No LTE + APN's etc) cos you need At&T radio .. Go to this <Link> and Flash this to get At&T modem
5. Now you have everything But... Now of the captivate buttons works.. So flash this <Link>
NOW you have completely converted LGOG to N4
For Custom Rom
Go to this <LInk>
To Revert back to original LGOG:
1. Run this <Link> Lgpnst
2. Get back your OLD partitions (E.g. This Link)
Etc etc.
it would be good.. If someone who has done it successfully and have "EVERYTHING WORKING" Fill in the blanks.
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When I converted, I did not flash a new radio. I've never flashed a radio on this device (besides the one that comes with the N4 conversion). All I had to do was change the APN to ATT LTE and now I have LTE and GPS.
The new Jelly Bean radio for the optimus G is supposed to fixed with dropped calls in an LTE area. Check it out, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39899645&postcount=429
Heres the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2130639&page=43
Coming from an N4, I can tell you that keeping the LGOG is worth it. Better build quality IMO (sd card and lte are also a big plus)
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JuannTwo3 said:
Coming from an N4, I can tell you that keeping the LGOG is worth it. Better build quality IMO (sd card and lte are also a big plus)
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Ditto
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The conversion is nice and its fun because I've learned a lot, but the reason I got this phone was because of the bonuses over the N4 and service is way better.
As for the devs being pissed, I don't blame them because as you can see, this community is dead. There is nothing to do for this phone when the conversion is complete. No LG Optimus G development, no LG Optimus G Roms or mods; ports, hacks or app hacks(yes i used a super comma).Where do you have to go? The N4 community; for N4 hacks and ROMs and mods and so on, so this community suffers more and more. Its like CM10.1 being the only ROM available and everyone modding it the same way over and over.
This phone is better in every way than the N4, even with the exception of AOSP. I think of the conversion like this, why buy the Nissan skyline and turn around to make it look like a Nissan maxima. But like I said, the conversion is fun, and you learn a lot.
My 2¢…keep your LGOG no matter what kind of crappy development the community has now, it will take off.………Hopefully!
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The Galaxy S4 was finally able to dualboot using the DoMaco.switch for the galaxy S4, but it only works for GSM devices. Is there any way we can tinker with this in order for it to work for us Verizon galaxy s4 customers?
by the way, heres the link:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/22/modaco-switch-galaxy-s-4-beta/
Here is a second link from a developer for the international GS4, does anyone know how to manipulate these towards our advantage?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417600
royredman said:
The Galaxy S4 was finally able to dualboot using the DoMaco.switch for the galaxy S4, but it only works for GSM devices. Is there any way we can tinker with this in order for it to work for us Verizon galaxy s4 customers?
by the way, heres the link:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/22/modaco-switch-galaxy-s-4-beta/
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I'd never use it personally, I have no use to switch ROM's. All I need is AOKP.
It's kind of a cool idea but I just wouldn't ever really see anyone needing to really do this much if at all. You most likely either like touchwiz or like stock.
Does anyone know if it is possible to implement this on a Verizon Galaxy S4?
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It's kind of a cool idea but I just wouldn't ever really see anyone needing to really do this much if at all. You most likely either like touchwiz or like stock.
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Also, I would think this may be easy to manipulate. Say, having two roms onto a pone that can dual boot, not just restricted to Google edition and touchwiz
If I could dual-boot rather than having to go through the whole Nandroid backup/restore process every time I want to try something new, I'd be a lot more likely to dabble in CM nightlies and the like. This'd be great.
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If I could dual-boot rather than having to go through the whole Nandroid backup/restore process every time I want to try something new, I'd be a lot more likely to dabble in CM nightlies and the like. This'd be great.
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Agreed
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I'll look into it tomorrow because that would make testing my updates about 1000x faster
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CrookedKnight said:
If I could dual-boot rather than having to go through the whole Nandroid backup/restore process every time I want to try something new, I'd be a lot more likely to dabble in CM nightlies and the like. This'd be great.
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Exactly! It's so nice to be able to switch back to your trusty DD with not much more than a reboot. There was an app called BootManager that I used on my EVO3D. You could boot as many ROMs as your SD could hold. It was great to play with CM, MIUI and others and reboot to Sense when I needed stability and reliability.
EDIT: just looked at the article. One data set is totally awesome! I wonder how easily you can swap the #2 ROM and leave the data untouched.
Do I smell ubuntu touch possibilities?
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Paul O'Brien (creator of MoDaCo and MoDaCo.switch said that he would be releasing his source to ALL developers in the near future so all ROMs would be able to implement it but for now its just the International (GSM) HTC One and Galaxy S4.....his post can be found on modaco.com
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Dubbsy said:
I'll look into it tomorrow because that would make testing my updates about 1000x faster
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I don't wan't to point you out or pressure you towards this, but you seemed interested in the idea, so I found this already created for the international Galaxy s4 from some other guy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417600
If you could use it towards our advantage, that would be awesome, if not thats fine too. Also, feel free to send this around to other GS4 Dev friends!!
royredman said:
I don't wan't to point you out or pressure you towards this, but you seemed interested in the idea, so I found this already created for the international Galaxy s4 from some other guy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417600
If you could use it towards our advantage, that would be awesome, if not thats fine too. Also, feel free to send this around to other GS4 Dev friends!!
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Thanks for the link. That could potentially work with some small tweaks. However that won't help me at all. Too much relies on your specific kernel and ROM versions.
The only way a tool like this is truly useful for ME is if I can dual boot anything I want for both slots. Whether that's 2 aosp, 2 tw, or 1 aosp and Ubuntu.
I really don't think either of these would work for my development purposes at this point. But I'm hopefully we'll get a dual boot option soonish.
I wouldn't even mind just a straight up text based grub style boot loader. Which would be no problem at all right now if Verizon didn't lock us up. :-/
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Dubbsy said:
Thanks for the link. That could potentially work with some small tweaks. However that won't help me at all. Too much relies on your specific kernel and ROM versions.
The only way a tool like this is truly useful for ME is if I can dual boot anything I want for both slots. Whether that's 2 aosp, 2 tw, or 1 aosp and Ubuntu.
I really don't think either of these would work for my development purposes at this point. But I'm hopefully we'll get a dual boot option soonish.
I wouldn't even mind just a straight up text based grub style boot loader. Which would be no problem at all right now if Verizon didn't lock us up. :-/
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Seems like the edits would be pretty straight forward, right? Basically changing install locations or would the bootloader business change things? even this form of dual boot would be awesome IMHO.
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It's not what I'd consider real dual boot. You are allocating cache space for the second ROM which mostly is fine since we have a 2gb cache partition. It shouldn't be that hard unless he coded it specifically for a single boot loader with an argument that will only allow it to run if it sees a specific board property or something. But that would be a huge waste of time since it seems like all those functions could be accomplished from within the stock environment.
But without dling it that's all speculation
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Hate to say it but looks like some Note 2 TW devs are leaving the phone. Seems they are vanishing weekly. Too bad because there were some great ROMs out there and I hate to see some of them go for the VZW variant. Really sad that VZW and Samsung are making things so difficult for devs these days. Makes me wonder if they left it open just long enough to steal hard working dev ideas for themselves without having to pay an R&D department to test the OS. Looks like AOSP 4.3 ROMs are starting to take off though, and with the addition of the App Bar, Halo and a host of other mods by great devs we still have a few options. That coupled with great mod apps in the Play Store you can almost get the TW experience with AOSP now.
Or maybe they are moving on to other projects until we get the 4.3 TW update. Then, hopefully some of them will return and develop for one of the top devices still on the market. The Note 3 will most likely be locked down like the S4 so I am thinking the Note 2 may be the last great Samsung device open to rooting and having the ability to flash custom ROMs.
To all the devs that made (or still making) great TW ROMs for our VZW Note 2, thanks for all your hard work. I know I have enjoyed being able to try different ROMs and tinkering with them. You all deserve donations and our gratitude. You guys and gals make the Android experience enjoyable for all of us.
I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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Hopefully thats the case. Or it may be time to switch carriers. Kinda tired of VZW and their procedures anyway.
If I could I'd leave for an att mnvo but I can't
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BennyJr said:
I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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What's wrong with the s3?
I'm sure the s4 will have an unlocked bootloader soon, especially with the 3k+ bounty.
TBH, this is what always happens. it makes sense that the devs move back to the latest phone. plus the note 3 is coming out soon too, so, yeah, pretty sure what happened to the s3 will happen to the note 2.
at first I really liked TW, but then I switched to the PACman rom and I haven't looked back. the features on TW are nice, but honestly I don't use them that much. i know every user varies, but there are a lot of apps out there that replace TW functionality. I really haven't noticed since switching. I just was unhappy being on 4.1.
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
Also keep in mind that the xposed framework has removed a lot of the necessity for a true custom rom as it does just about everything that previously had to be hardcoded in. Most custom roms anymore are really just themes with xposed installed by default.
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What's wrong with the s3?
I'm sure the s4 will have an unlocked bootloader soon, especially with the 3k+ bounty.
TBH, this is what always happens. it makes sense that the devs move back to the latest phone. plus the note 3 is coming out soon too, so, yeah, pretty sure what happened to the s3 will happen to the note 2.
at first I really liked TW, but then I switched to the PACman rom and I haven't looked back. the features on TW are nice, but honestly I don't use them that much. i know every user varies, but there are a lot of apps out there that replace TW functionality. I really haven't noticed since switching. I just was unhappy being on 4.1.
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The S4 wont be unlocked...however Im sure something like Kexec or Safestrap will be used to work around the Locked Bootloader. If you read into the details of Qualcomm processors and qfuses, you will quickly learn its pretty much impossible.
JB is still a very active rom, as is Nebula. One of the problems I have run into is that many of the roms are built on the international base. Cleanrom was the perfect rom for me but unfortunately Scott has moved on.
Jellybeans = very active, but I personally seem to always have little issues, I have however never seen anyone else with them.
Cleanrom = dead, but rock solid stable for me
Transnebula = Great support, and very active, however the tab UI just does not work for me... I would KILL to have these guys put together something like clean rom but with floating multiwindow. (One of the devs is also f&*(ing Batman in disguise I swear, listening to his gadget list is bloody awesome)
Lab Rats = a theme beast, but I am not really into theming, seems to me there is always something not quite right with custom themes.
There are also a few international based roms that are very active.
Edit: Oh yeah, also beware flashing Lab Rats at work unless you want your co-workers making fun of you for the boot up sound
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As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
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Agreed. I actually missed my GS3 for about 2 months until the N2 ROMs started picking up. Now I'm digging PAC Man 4.3 and can't wait to see what happens with TW 4.3. Just hope the devs migrate back eventually. The N2 is a great device.
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Morkai Almandragon said:
JB is still a very active rom, as is Nebula. One of the problems I have run into is that many of the roms are built on the international base. Cleanrom was the perfect rom for me but unfortunately Scott has moved on.
Jellybeans = very active, but I personally seem to always have little issues, I have however never seen anyone else with them.
Cleanrom = dead, but rock solid stable for me
Transnebula = Great support, and very active, however the tab UI just does not work for me... I would KILL to have these guys put together something like clean rom but with floating multiwindow. (One of the devs is also f&*(ing Batman in disguise I swear, listening to his gadget list is bloody awesome)
Lab Rats = a theme beast, but I am not really into theming, seems to me there is always something not quite right with custom themes.
There are also a few international based roms that are very active.
Edit: Oh yeah, also beware flashing Lab Rats at work unless you want your co-workers making fun of you for the boot up sound
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Beans just got a Moto X so I hope he builds for the N2 still after 4.3 drops.
Haven't tried Trans yet. Not a big tablet UI fan.
Still need to try the newest Lab Rats
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Beans just got a Moto X so I hope he builds for the N2 still after 4.3 drops.
Haven't tried Trans yet. Not a big tablet UI fan.
Still need to try the newest Lab Rats
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I could not imagine going from the Note 2 to the Moto X lol
We have patches to run roms from other carriers, as well as rock solid roms that work flawlessly. X posed has opened up almost endless possibilities, and active themers(<is this even a word?) )help the look of a lot of the roms we do have. One of the best things we have is a bunch of good natured members willing to help, and learn. This goes a long way. New developers are born every day. Some will leave, some will stay. Heck Deckoz just started. Trans nebula is his first rom. This phone is a nice piece of kit, and unless I can get a xperia xl super cheap, and working flawless on Verizon, then I am staying put for awhile. You guys are stuck with me.
Morkai Almandragon said:
I could not imagine going from the Note 2 to the Moto X lol
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Honestly it's a gorgeous device. Almost pure android on it, some nice moto features. I would get it if I didn't have a note. It's honestly still in the back of my mind to get one. It's smaller yeah but it's got a really nice feel in the hand. Very smooth running device
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Feel the same as the op but remaining hopeful and patient. Really sad to see cleanrom go and nothing really along those lines. I like beans also and not sure how much more he can do with it until there's a 4.3 to work off of. I've been messing with nova themes and other mods to keep me busy. That and just enjoying the phone with what we have.
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Nova and the host of goodies and apps has made the TW experience more enjoyable until 4.3 drops. I realize the TW devs are limited until the next update. Heck I flashed back to Beans just to mess with X Posed since I really never have in TW roms.
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SSLauncher is pretty cool as well. Looking forward to trying all kinds of possibilities.
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ExFAT and AOSP
kennyglass123 said:
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
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Kenny,
Since your are reading ( and cleaning- thanks!) a lot of posts I wonder if you have seen any ExFat support for AOSP roms.Actually I want to be able to format a 64GB sandisk and be able see all ( most) of 64G and be able to put files larger than 4G.
Any AOSP roms/kernels with such support?
Many thanks
Abe
abe_cedar said:
Kenny,
Since your are reading ( and cleaning- thanks!) a lot of posts I wonder if you have seen any ExFat support for AOSP roms.Actually I want to be able to format a 64GB sandisk and be able see all ( most) of 64G and be able to put files larger than 4G.
Any AOSP roms/kernels with such support?
Many thanks
Abe
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Looks like it is mostly CM 10.1 support but found these : http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=Exfat on cM
Updates are great, but since TW has its own limitations and we've had 4.1.2 for how long now? Tweaks can only be so tweaky! 4.3 will breathe alot of new life into our phone. I am not upgrading to the N3 lest something makes it more desirable. But seeing that we get the same update it will have, I am willing to wait a month to see what happens.