The Galaxy S4 was finally able to dualboot using the DoMaco.switch for the galaxy S4, but it only works for GSM devices. Is there any way we can tinker with this in order for it to work for us Verizon galaxy s4 customers?
by the way, heres the link:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/22/modaco-switch-galaxy-s-4-beta/
Here is a second link from a developer for the international GS4, does anyone know how to manipulate these towards our advantage?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417600
royredman said:
The Galaxy S4 was finally able to dualboot using the DoMaco.switch for the galaxy S4, but it only works for GSM devices. Is there any way we can tinker with this in order for it to work for us Verizon galaxy s4 customers?
by the way, heres the link:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/22/modaco-switch-galaxy-s-4-beta/
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I'd never use it personally, I have no use to switch ROM's. All I need is AOKP.
It's kind of a cool idea but I just wouldn't ever really see anyone needing to really do this much if at all. You most likely either like touchwiz or like stock.
Does anyone know if it is possible to implement this on a Verizon Galaxy S4?
th3drow said:
It's kind of a cool idea but I just wouldn't ever really see anyone needing to really do this much if at all. You most likely either like touchwiz or like stock.
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Also, I would think this may be easy to manipulate. Say, having two roms onto a pone that can dual boot, not just restricted to Google edition and touchwiz
If I could dual-boot rather than having to go through the whole Nandroid backup/restore process every time I want to try something new, I'd be a lot more likely to dabble in CM nightlies and the like. This'd be great.
CrookedKnight said:
If I could dual-boot rather than having to go through the whole Nandroid backup/restore process every time I want to try something new, I'd be a lot more likely to dabble in CM nightlies and the like. This'd be great.
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Agreed
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I'll look into it tomorrow because that would make testing my updates about 1000x faster
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CrookedKnight said:
If I could dual-boot rather than having to go through the whole Nandroid backup/restore process every time I want to try something new, I'd be a lot more likely to dabble in CM nightlies and the like. This'd be great.
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Exactly! It's so nice to be able to switch back to your trusty DD with not much more than a reboot. There was an app called BootManager that I used on my EVO3D. You could boot as many ROMs as your SD could hold. It was great to play with CM, MIUI and others and reboot to Sense when I needed stability and reliability.
EDIT: just looked at the article. One data set is totally awesome! I wonder how easily you can swap the #2 ROM and leave the data untouched.
Do I smell ubuntu touch possibilities?
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Paul O'Brien (creator of MoDaCo and MoDaCo.switch said that he would be releasing his source to ALL developers in the near future so all ROMs would be able to implement it but for now its just the International (GSM) HTC One and Galaxy S4.....his post can be found on modaco.com
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Dubbsy said:
I'll look into it tomorrow because that would make testing my updates about 1000x faster
sent from my Verizon Galaxy sIV
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I don't wan't to point you out or pressure you towards this, but you seemed interested in the idea, so I found this already created for the international Galaxy s4 from some other guy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417600
If you could use it towards our advantage, that would be awesome, if not thats fine too. Also, feel free to send this around to other GS4 Dev friends!!
royredman said:
I don't wan't to point you out or pressure you towards this, but you seemed interested in the idea, so I found this already created for the international Galaxy s4 from some other guy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2417600
If you could use it towards our advantage, that would be awesome, if not thats fine too. Also, feel free to send this around to other GS4 Dev friends!!
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Thanks for the link. That could potentially work with some small tweaks. However that won't help me at all. Too much relies on your specific kernel and ROM versions.
The only way a tool like this is truly useful for ME is if I can dual boot anything I want for both slots. Whether that's 2 aosp, 2 tw, or 1 aosp and Ubuntu.
I really don't think either of these would work for my development purposes at this point. But I'm hopefully we'll get a dual boot option soonish.
I wouldn't even mind just a straight up text based grub style boot loader. Which would be no problem at all right now if Verizon didn't lock us up. :-/
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Dubbsy said:
Thanks for the link. That could potentially work with some small tweaks. However that won't help me at all. Too much relies on your specific kernel and ROM versions.
The only way a tool like this is truly useful for ME is if I can dual boot anything I want for both slots. Whether that's 2 aosp, 2 tw, or 1 aosp and Ubuntu.
I really don't think either of these would work for my development purposes at this point. But I'm hopefully we'll get a dual boot option soonish.
I wouldn't even mind just a straight up text based grub style boot loader. Which would be no problem at all right now if Verizon didn't lock us up. :-/
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Seems like the edits would be pretty straight forward, right? Basically changing install locations or would the bootloader business change things? even this form of dual boot would be awesome IMHO.
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It's not what I'd consider real dual boot. You are allocating cache space for the second ROM which mostly is fine since we have a 2gb cache partition. It shouldn't be that hard unless he coded it specifically for a single boot loader with an argument that will only allow it to run if it sees a specific board property or something. But that would be a huge waste of time since it seems like all those functions could be accomplished from within the stock environment.
But without dling it that's all speculation
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Has anyone tried porting the stock, rooted, or otherwise Rom from the Nexus 4?
If no one has I will give it a shot. The two phones aren't all that different ours has the LTE on the chip set activated but I believe they have basically the same Qualcomm chip set.
Also if anyone knows more about it than I do feel free to inform me. I'm always up for a hacking adventure but I don't want to start something I'll never be able to finish.
CrazyLineman777 said:
Has anyone tried porting the stock, rooted, or otherwise Rom from the Nexus 4?
If no one has I will give it a shot. The two phones aren't all that different ours has the LTE on the chip set activated but I believe they have basically the same Qualcomm chip set.
Also if anyone knows more about it than I do feel free to inform me. I'm always up for a hacking adventure but I don't want to start something I'll never be able to finish.
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Yea some people have tried but the kernel isn't working on the att model but give it a shot maybe you know a little more. I think a lot of people would appreciate it. Good luck
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CrazyLineman777 said:
Has anyone tried porting the stock, rooted, or otherwise Rom from the Nexus 4?
If no one has I will give it a shot. The two phones aren't all that different ours has the LTE on the chip set activated but I believe they have basically the same Qualcomm chip set.
Also if anyone knows more about it than I do feel free to inform me. I'm always up for a hacking adventure but I don't want to start something I'll never be able to finish.
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Apparently there is also a bunch of driver issues.
Dsmforlife92 said:
Yea some people have tried but the kernel isn't working on the att model but give it a shot maybe you know a little more. I think a lot of people would appreciate it. Good luck
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I should figured AT&T would screw us like that. Man this is gonna take some work, but I certainly will give it a shot. This won't be my first port of a Rom but it'll be my first one where I've had to work on a Kernel. Wish me luck guys.
CrazyLineman777 said:
I should figured AT&T would screw us like that. Man this is gonna take some work, but I certainly will give it a shot. This won't be my first port of a Rom but it'll be my first one where I've had to work on a Kernel. Wish me luck guys.
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Make it happen dude! If you need or want some help let me know. I have lots of free time
CrazyLineman777 said:
Has anyone tried porting the stock, rooted, or otherwise Rom from the Nexus 4?
If no one has I will give it a shot. The two phones aren't all that different ours has the LTE on the chip set activated but I believe they have basically the same Qualcomm chip set.
Also if anyone knows more about it than I do feel free to inform me. I'm always up for a hacking adventure but I don't want to start something I'll never be able to finish.
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Head over to the IRC channel, #lg-optimus-g, most of the current developers are always on there and they will be more than willing to have someone new that has some experience and willingness to help!
DonMarek said:
Head over to the IRC channel, #lg-optimus-g, most of the current developers are always on there and they will be more than willing to have someone new that has some experience and willingness to help!
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I believe I've found a sort of attempt at what I'm looking to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099784
This essentially turns the phone into a Nexus 4 so that essentially the firmware is tricked into thinking that our phone is the Nexus 4. It appears as if in order to put vanilla android on here I'll need to take pieces of this hack, and sort of finish it. Like getting the Capacitive buttons working, which will require a bit of kernel hacking. It appears as if reflashing the modem, which I think after I take apart the original firmware I can sort of shove in there, will fix the LTE, so says the post, and the issue of the SD card. This method may be more intensive than is necessary. However it's looking like this is all I've got to work with as of right now.
I'm going to try and make a Rom that's still ICS and as close to Vanilla as is possible, then I'll give moving it up to Jelly Bean a shot. Also this may take a while as I am in college, and I've only got a small amount of experience so this will sort of be a learning experience for me.
Also I'm not too familiar with using IRC. I'm used to doing stuff on my own. For my original Android phone, the HTC Inspire. The dev community over there was awesome, they're probably still going, but I'm more used to taking a base like CM 9 or CM 10 nightlies and making them my own for my phone. So this will be a hacking adventure. A hackventure if you will.
CrazyLineman777 said:
I believe I've found a sort of attempt at what I'm looking to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2099784
This essentially turns the phone into a Nexus 4 so that essentially the firmware is tricked into thinking that our phone is the Nexus 4. It appears as if in order to put vanilla android on here I'll need to take pieces of this hack, and sort of finish it. Like getting the Capacitive buttons working, which will require a bit of kernel hacking. It appears as if reflashing the modem, which I think after I take apart the original firmware I can sort of shove in there, will fix the LTE, so says the post, and the issue of the SD card. This method may be more intensive than is necessary. However it's looking like this is all I've got to work with as of right now.
I'm going to try and make a Rom that's still ICS and as close to Vanilla as is possible, then I'll give moving it up to Jelly Bean a shot. Also this may take a while as I am in college, and I've only got a small amount of experience so this will sort of be a learning experience for me.
Also I'm not too familiar with using IRC. I'm used to doing stuff on my own. For my original Android phone, the HTC Inspire. The dev community over there was awesome, they're probably still going, but I'm more used to taking a base like CM 9 or CM 10 nightlies and making them my own for my phone. So this will be a hacking adventure. A hackventure if you will.
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SD Card requires ramdisk edits too
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Howdy all,
I am looking at the Crash ROM for my Note 2, mostly because it seems to be the best at supporting the S-pen and the features that make the Note 2 more than just an oversized S3. Question though... I cant find anywhere that states if the ROM does or does not support the Verizon version of the Note 2, SCH-I605. The offical ROM posting is in one of the other dev forums, and the only post I could find asking for Vzw support wasnt answered.
Does anyone know if Crash ROM will work for me?
If not, is there a similar ROM everyone uses to maintain maximum use of the S-pen and other features?
Thanks
Why don't you link the thread? Also you could just make a backup and give it a shot. If it didn't work just restore.
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kintwofan said:
Why don't you link the thread? Also you could just make a backup and give it a shot. If it didn't work just restore.
Sent from the dark on a Note 2
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This is true... I am something of a noob when it comes to this, as I've only rooted one phone and it was a few years ago, so I am hesitant to experiment too much. Especially if something is specifically NOT designed for my device. You make a good point though. Could easily Nandroid myself right back to stock.
Heres the official Crash ROM thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980475
UnexplainedBacon said:
This is true... I am something of a noob when it comes to this, as I've only rooted one phone and it was a few years ago, so I am hesitant to experiment too much. Especially if something is specifically NOT designed for my device. You make a good point though. Could easily Nandroid myself right back to stock.
Heres the official Crash ROM thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1980475
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Understandable. I personally wouldn't try it because it seems to have a modem flash built in. I'm sure it would be okay, but I don't like to play with the modem.
I'm not sure what it does special with the s pen though? Any of the Verizon touch wiz bard ROMs keep use of it. So check out Eclipse (my personal choice), clean vROM, Jedi (crazy fast), or Beans
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Thanks for the recommends! I will check those out. I had just read several posts and seen some vids which indicated Crash maintained more support for the pen and other Note 2 features. Some ROMs apparently dont. Im still getting up to speed on what my options are. Thanks again.
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Update 5/13/13 - This is DerTeufel1980's thread for the kernel which works for both AOSP and TW. Dual-boot is not yet working yet though. - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239453
FYI - DerTeufel1980 had a solid kernel working fairly quickly and has since worked on the recovery mods to allow installing two ROMs, etc. He has been working through a few items such as USB only working for charging, etc. He is making progress though.
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DerTeufel1980 has a dual-boot kernel working for the Samsung Galaxy line (Captivate, etc). With our help, he has been able to purchase a Note II to work on and I have been updating this thread with donation promises.
The post is below. You can look at his stats (a recognized developer with close to 13,000 thanks) and know that he can be trusted. Just to have him working on the Note II will be a great addition. I started the thread on the AT&T forum and then added it in the N7100/N7105 forum when I realized he lives in Germany. He and I have committed a fair amount of $ to make this happen so if you feel inclined to help out then it would be appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38121246&postcount=27
$200 loan for now. - RichMD
$25 - ceo.mtcl
PAID - $10 - rayandreas
PAID - $50 - mocsab
>=$10 - [email protected]
PAID - $29 - btpd21
PAID - $25 - Jamice4u
PAID - $10 - Shinkinrui
PAID - $5 - muqali
PAID - $10 - rlee008
$5 - kingP1n
$5 - deviusdragger
$5 - lovekeiiy
PAID - $15 CDKJudoka
PAID - $5 ristiisa
PAID - $10 Grant Barker
** After the kernel is working - $100 - PhxDroid86
** After the kernel is working - $20 - Markor13
** After the kernel is working - $15 - trevor7428
** After the kernel is working - $30 - kashortiexda
Update 5/25 - DerTeufel1980 has spent a while perfecting a universal kernel that works on AOSP and Sammy ROMs. The thread is here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239453
He had to work out some bugs that prevented troubleshooting the dual-boot problem. However, he recently returned to the dual-boot problem and has solved it. He has been able to dual-boot with AOSP as primary, Sammy as secondary and vice-versa. He is still fixing some recovery issues, etc but is hopeful that the release will be available tomorrow. This turned out to be much more challenging than other phones but that is probably why nobody else has accomplished it until he had a device to work on...
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Recognized developer and thanks don't really stand for much anymore.
There is a dev on another phone considered recognized and with way more thanks than that, and he so far has had two phones I know of handed too him and he possibly stole work on the first and released nothing but completely stock AOSP that took him months to make on the second phone while we had RIL and CM10 long before he got to the phone.
The above is why I don't donate until after work has been created anymore. If it is a dev I've seen produce I'd consider it.
I for one hate these.
Said my 2 cents.
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nosympathy said:
Recognized developer and thanks don't really stand for much anymore.
There is a dev on another phone considered recognized and with way more thanks than that, and he so far has had two phones I know of handed too him and he possibly stole work on the first and released nothing but completely stock AOSP that took him months to make on the second phone while we had RIL and CM10 long before he got to the phone.
The above is why I don't donate until after work has been created anymore. If it is a dev I've seen produce I'd consider it.
I for one hate these.
Said my 2 cents.
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I included the post where he produced a dual-boot kernel. I understand you must have been burned in the past. However, please do a bit of research before stating something so negative that does not apply in this particular instance. Nobody else (that I have seen) has produced a dual-boot kernel for a phone. He could easily decide to get a completely different phone so we would lose the benefit of his work on a phone we have. He can't provide the benefit without the phone to work on. I'm not trying to start a flame-war. I just think a lot of people would like this capability.
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Up to 310 now
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RichMD said:
I included the post where he produced a dual-boot kernel. I understand you must have been burned in the past. However, please do a bit of research before stating something so negative that does not apply in this particular instance. Nobody else (that I have seen) has produced a dual-boot kernel for a phone. He could easily decide to get a completely different phone so we would lose the benefit of his work on a phone we have. He can't provide the benefit without the phone to work on. I'm not trying to start a flame-war. I just think a lot of people would like this capability.
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I am just not a fan of these period. I've never been burned. I refuse to donate for work undone.
This other dev had work done in the past. Proof of work.
Not to say this dev isn't worth having, I just refuse to donate to work not done.
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There are also rules about this, specifically not doing it. I get you want it done, but I don't see the developer even coming in here and showing interest. That is a cause for concern.
adrynalyne said:
There are also rules about this, specifically not doing it. I get you want it done, but I don't see the developer even coming in here and showing interest. That is a cause for concern.
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What rules are you talking about? No moderator has sent any PM and I'm sure the threads have been seen at this point.
I will ask DerTeufel1980 to post in the thread if that makes a difference. He posted in the AT&T thread that I started with.
RichMD said:
What rules are you talking about? No moderator has sent any PM and I'm sure the threads have been seen at this point.
I will ask DerTeufel1980 to post in the thread if that makes a difference. He posted in the AT&T thread that I started with.
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I am not going to pull up the precise verbiage, as you can do that. However there are explicit rules for no donations on work unseen. There have been many a fiery thread in this forum on that very detail and each one was closed. I don't care either way but if you want to alleviate people's concerns, get the dev to come in here and show interest and then get moderator approval for the thread. Don't be surprised if it gets shut down though.
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adrynalyne said:
I am not going to pull up the precise verbiage, as you can do that. However there are explicit rules for no donations on work unseen. There have been many a fiery thread in this forum on that very detail and each one was closed. I don't care either way but if you want to alleviate people's concerns, get the dev to come in here and show interest and then get moderator approval for the thread. Don't be surprised if it gets shut down though.
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Hi, What do you want me to ask?
Of course I am interested in this project. Otherwise RichMD would not have opened the thread.
As I wrote in the other thread, i was going to get me a nexus 4 within the coming months. If RichMD would not have asked, I would not have thought about the note 2.
Regarding dual boot, it took me nearly 2 month, to figure out how all the things need to be modified (especially the recovery) for a user friendly implementation of dualboot. Now that I know all this, it shouldn't be very hard to implement it to another phone.
Obviously, to make changes to the recovery /initramfs and kernel itself, I need a device to test with.
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DerTeufel1980 said:
Hi, What do you want me to ask?
Of course I am interested in this project. Otherwise RichMD would not have opened the thread.
As I wrote in the other thread, i was going to get me a nexus 4 within the coming months. If RichMD would not have asked, I would not have thought about the note 2.
Regarding dual boot, it took me nearly 2 month, to figure out how all the things need to be modified (especially the recovery) for a user friendly implementation of dualboot. Now that I know all this, it shouldn't be very hard to implement it to another phone.
Obviously, to make changes to the recovery /initramfs and kernel itself, I need a device to test with.
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Thanks DerTeufel,
I think many of us would like to see this capability on the Note 2.
I don't know if it would work but I am particularly hoping that I can have an unrooted "work" ROM as the "secondary" so I can use my enterprise Good email client. I am hoping it will be somewhat like dual-booting my kindle-fire where the "secondary" has to be packaged for "alternate" partitions and then have the other ROM be what I can flash various ROMs that come out. Even if the dual-boot does not work like that initially, I would want it regardless and I am guessing other DEVs could help expand on it.
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RichMD said:
Thanks DerTeufel,
I think many of us would like to see this capability on the Note 2.
I don't know if it would work but I am particularly hoping that I can have an unrooted "work" ROM as the "secondary" so I can use my enterprise Good email client. I am hoping it will be somewhat like dual-booting my kindle-fire where the "secondary" has to be packaged for "alternate" partitions and then have the other ROM be what I can flash various ROMs that come out. Even if the dual-boot does not work like that initially, I would want it regardless and I am guessing other DEVs could help expand on it.
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Sorry, but I can't say anything about this now. It depends on the drivers needed for stock and aosp based roms.
For sure you can run two stock roms or two aosp roms.
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Vote ban all donation threads. However i can vouch that derteufel1980 is a solid dev. Honestly I see no need for a dual boot kernel....thats what nandroids are for.
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droidstyle said:
Vote ban all donation threads. However i can vouch that derteufel1980 is a solid dev. Honestly I see no need for a dual boot kernel....thats what nandroids are for.
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Well, let me remember... You are/were having a vibrant? Do you still have it? I can upload the dualboot kernel for it later (already compiled it few weeks ago. Lol) then you can compare nandroid against dualboot.
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droidstyle said:
Vote ban all donation threads. However i can vouch that derteufel1980 is a solid dev. Honestly I see no need for a dual boot kernel....thats what nandroids are for.
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Dual boot is so much easier than backing up and restoring Nandroids. However unless we can dual boot Touchwiz and AOSP then it's pointless for me. I want to have AOSP, but I'm not willing to give up multi window, it's just way to useful. Dual boot is the next best thing to AOSP having multi window (which I don't see happening anytime soon)
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eraursls1984 said:
Dual boot is so much easier than backing up and restoring Nandroids. However unless we can dual boot Touchwiz and AOSP then it's pointless for me. I want to have AOSP, but I'm not willing to give up multi window, it's just way to useful. Dual boot is the next best thing to AOSP having multi window (which I don't see happening anytime soon)
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I totally agree. Having tw and aosp would be the perfect combination. As I don't own this device (yet), I am not very familiar with it. Does one need a different kernel for aosp and tw roms?
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eraursls1984 said:
Dual boot is so much easier than backing up and restoring Nandroids. However unless we can dual boot Touchwiz and AOSP then it's pointless for me. I want to have AOSP, but I'm not willing to give up multi window, it's just way to useful. Dual boot is the next best thing to AOSP having multi window (which I don't see happening anytime soon)
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If we get dual-boot functionality then maybe it can be improved over time to support AOSP and TW ROMS. Maybe that will never happen but it certainly won't if we don't start with getting some of the items resolved like recovery, etc that DerTeufel1980 has worked through. Personally, I would like to have a TW ROM configured for work with the battery hogging Good client and corresponding password restrictions, etc and a personal TW ROM that I can setup however I want. I don't consider nandroid swaps a viable option personally.
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RichMD said:
If we get dual-boot functionality then maybe it can be improved over time to support AOSP and TW ROMS. Maybe that will never happen but it certainly won't if we don't start with getting some of the items resolved like recovery, etc that DerTeufel1980 has worked through. Personally, I would like to have a TW ROM configured for work with the battery hogging Good client and corresponding password restrictions, etc and a personal TW ROM that I can setup however I want. I don't consider nandroid swaps a viable option personally.
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i dont swap roms enough to warrant dual boot...and if we cant dual boot between touchwiz and aosp then it seems pointless.
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DerTeufel1980 said:
Well, let me remember... You are/were having a vibrant? Do you still have it? I can upload the dualboot kernel for it later (already compiled it few weeks ago. Lol) then you can compare nandroid against dualboot.
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I had a fascinate...anyhow I appreciate your work on that device, however I no longer support donation threads. to many folks been burned...no offense to you personally!
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DerTeufel1980 said:
I totally agree. Having tw and aosp would be the perfect combination. As I don't own this device (yet), I am not very familiar with it. Does one need a different kernel for aosp and tw roms?
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...this right here...I mean....come on now...
I've never had a phone that could use the same kernel for both AOSP and touchwhiz/sense/motoblur/whatever.
And I've had a lot of phones...
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droidstyle said:
i dont swap roms enough to warrant dual boot...and if we cant dual boot between touchwiz and aosp then it seems pointless.
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I had a fascinate...anyhow I appreciate your work on that device, however I no longer support donation threads. to many folks been burned...no offense to you personally!
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that's totally fine with me. no one is forced to donate, and i am not angry, if one tells me, he does not want to donate.
i never planned myself to get this device, and i never could pay for it (my girlfriend would kill me, if i spent my money for a phone instead of our kids ).
if this thread is going to get me the device at anytime, i would proudly develop my kernel for it. if not, i'll most probably buy a used nexus 4 in 2-3 months
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...this right here...I mean....come on now...
I've never had a phone that could use the same kernel for both AOSP and touchwhiz/sense/motoblur/whatever.
And I've had a lot of phones...
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Three of my 5 Android phones had AOSP and OEM running off of the same kernel, all three had locked bootloaders though. Droid X, Droid Bionic, Droid RAZR MAXX.
Hate to say it but looks like some Note 2 TW devs are leaving the phone. Seems they are vanishing weekly. Too bad because there were some great ROMs out there and I hate to see some of them go for the VZW variant. Really sad that VZW and Samsung are making things so difficult for devs these days. Makes me wonder if they left it open just long enough to steal hard working dev ideas for themselves without having to pay an R&D department to test the OS. Looks like AOSP 4.3 ROMs are starting to take off though, and with the addition of the App Bar, Halo and a host of other mods by great devs we still have a few options. That coupled with great mod apps in the Play Store you can almost get the TW experience with AOSP now.
Or maybe they are moving on to other projects until we get the 4.3 TW update. Then, hopefully some of them will return and develop for one of the top devices still on the market. The Note 3 will most likely be locked down like the S4 so I am thinking the Note 2 may be the last great Samsung device open to rooting and having the ability to flash custom ROMs.
To all the devs that made (or still making) great TW ROMs for our VZW Note 2, thanks for all your hard work. I know I have enjoyed being able to try different ROMs and tinkering with them. You all deserve donations and our gratitude. You guys and gals make the Android experience enjoyable for all of us.
I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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Hopefully thats the case. Or it may be time to switch carriers. Kinda tired of VZW and their procedures anyway.
If I could I'd leave for an att mnvo but I can't
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BennyJr said:
I'm sure they will be back when we get the 4.3 update. This is the only phone that has an unlockable bootloader, with TW on verizon that's actually decent.
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What's wrong with the s3?
I'm sure the s4 will have an unlocked bootloader soon, especially with the 3k+ bounty.
TBH, this is what always happens. it makes sense that the devs move back to the latest phone. plus the note 3 is coming out soon too, so, yeah, pretty sure what happened to the s3 will happen to the note 2.
at first I really liked TW, but then I switched to the PACman rom and I haven't looked back. the features on TW are nice, but honestly I don't use them that much. i know every user varies, but there are a lot of apps out there that replace TW functionality. I really haven't noticed since switching. I just was unhappy being on 4.1.
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
Also keep in mind that the xposed framework has removed a lot of the necessity for a true custom rom as it does just about everything that previously had to be hardcoded in. Most custom roms anymore are really just themes with xposed installed by default.
kimdoocheol said:
What's wrong with the s3?
I'm sure the s4 will have an unlocked bootloader soon, especially with the 3k+ bounty.
TBH, this is what always happens. it makes sense that the devs move back to the latest phone. plus the note 3 is coming out soon too, so, yeah, pretty sure what happened to the s3 will happen to the note 2.
at first I really liked TW, but then I switched to the PACman rom and I haven't looked back. the features on TW are nice, but honestly I don't use them that much. i know every user varies, but there are a lot of apps out there that replace TW functionality. I really haven't noticed since switching. I just was unhappy being on 4.1.
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The S4 wont be unlocked...however Im sure something like Kexec or Safestrap will be used to work around the Locked Bootloader. If you read into the details of Qualcomm processors and qfuses, you will quickly learn its pretty much impossible.
JB is still a very active rom, as is Nebula. One of the problems I have run into is that many of the roms are built on the international base. Cleanrom was the perfect rom for me but unfortunately Scott has moved on.
Jellybeans = very active, but I personally seem to always have little issues, I have however never seen anyone else with them.
Cleanrom = dead, but rock solid stable for me
Transnebula = Great support, and very active, however the tab UI just does not work for me... I would KILL to have these guys put together something like clean rom but with floating multiwindow. (One of the devs is also f&*(ing Batman in disguise I swear, listening to his gadget list is bloody awesome)
Lab Rats = a theme beast, but I am not really into theming, seems to me there is always something not quite right with custom themes.
There are also a few international based roms that are very active.
Edit: Oh yeah, also beware flashing Lab Rats at work unless you want your co-workers making fun of you for the boot up sound
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As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
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Agreed. I actually missed my GS3 for about 2 months until the N2 ROMs started picking up. Now I'm digging PAC Man 4.3 and can't wait to see what happens with TW 4.3. Just hope the devs migrate back eventually. The N2 is a great device.
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JB is still a very active rom, as is Nebula. One of the problems I have run into is that many of the roms are built on the international base. Cleanrom was the perfect rom for me but unfortunately Scott has moved on.
Jellybeans = very active, but I personally seem to always have little issues, I have however never seen anyone else with them.
Cleanrom = dead, but rock solid stable for me
Transnebula = Great support, and very active, however the tab UI just does not work for me... I would KILL to have these guys put together something like clean rom but with floating multiwindow. (One of the devs is also f&*(ing Batman in disguise I swear, listening to his gadget list is bloody awesome)
Lab Rats = a theme beast, but I am not really into theming, seems to me there is always something not quite right with custom themes.
There are also a few international based roms that are very active.
Edit: Oh yeah, also beware flashing Lab Rats at work unless you want your co-workers making fun of you for the boot up sound
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Beans just got a Moto X so I hope he builds for the N2 still after 4.3 drops.
Haven't tried Trans yet. Not a big tablet UI fan.
Still need to try the newest Lab Rats
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Beans just got a Moto X so I hope he builds for the N2 still after 4.3 drops.
Haven't tried Trans yet. Not a big tablet UI fan.
Still need to try the newest Lab Rats
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I could not imagine going from the Note 2 to the Moto X lol
We have patches to run roms from other carriers, as well as rock solid roms that work flawlessly. X posed has opened up almost endless possibilities, and active themers(<is this even a word?) )help the look of a lot of the roms we do have. One of the best things we have is a bunch of good natured members willing to help, and learn. This goes a long way. New developers are born every day. Some will leave, some will stay. Heck Deckoz just started. Trans nebula is his first rom. This phone is a nice piece of kit, and unless I can get a xperia xl super cheap, and working flawless on Verizon, then I am staying put for awhile. You guys are stuck with me.
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I could not imagine going from the Note 2 to the Moto X lol
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Honestly it's a gorgeous device. Almost pure android on it, some nice moto features. I would get it if I didn't have a note. It's honestly still in the back of my mind to get one. It's smaller yeah but it's got a really nice feel in the hand. Very smooth running device
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Feel the same as the op but remaining hopeful and patient. Really sad to see cleanrom go and nothing really along those lines. I like beans also and not sure how much more he can do with it until there's a 4.3 to work off of. I've been messing with nova themes and other mods to keep me busy. That and just enjoying the phone with what we have.
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Nova and the host of goodies and apps has made the TW experience more enjoyable until 4.3 drops. I realize the TW devs are limited until the next update. Heck I flashed back to Beans just to mess with X Posed since I really never have in TW roms.
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SSLauncher is pretty cool as well. Looking forward to trying all kinds of possibilities.
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ExFAT and AOSP
kennyglass123 said:
As a TW ROM author for the S3 I can tell you guys TW has its limits and there is only so much we can do so we are all awaiting the 4.3 upgrade. We can mess around with themes and included apps, inverting things, but there are limits. It is not like TW has a nightly source code to keep building from. Just be patient and maybe play with some different themes.
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Kenny,
Since your are reading ( and cleaning- thanks!) a lot of posts I wonder if you have seen any ExFat support for AOSP roms.Actually I want to be able to format a 64GB sandisk and be able see all ( most) of 64G and be able to put files larger than 4G.
Any AOSP roms/kernels with such support?
Many thanks
Abe
abe_cedar said:
Kenny,
Since your are reading ( and cleaning- thanks!) a lot of posts I wonder if you have seen any ExFat support for AOSP roms.Actually I want to be able to format a 64GB sandisk and be able see all ( most) of 64G and be able to put files larger than 4G.
Any AOSP roms/kernels with such support?
Many thanks
Abe
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Looks like it is mostly CM 10.1 support but found these : http://forum.xda-developers.com/sitesearch.php?q=Exfat on cM
Updates are great, but since TW has its own limitations and we've had 4.1.2 for how long now? Tweaks can only be so tweaky! 4.3 will breathe alot of new life into our phone. I am not upgrading to the N3 lest something makes it more desirable. But seeing that we get the same update it will have, I am willing to wait a month to see what happens.
Anybody interested in an S4 Users telegram group chat?
I think it would be interesting to see how many enthusiasts we have among us and maybe toss around some ideas for upcoming dev work?
Pretty much anything goes lol
here is the link for those that wish to join.
https://telegram.me/joinchat/CG3OjgY7Dt9-Ubmuq9VAhw
Klabit is npjohnson going to be doing any work with his s4 bl unlock in there? Maybe looking for some testers???
I wonder how many s4 users there are left..
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I wonder how many s4 users there are left..
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Would it even be worth npjohnson releasing his bl unlock?
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Klabit is npjohnson going to be doing any work with his s4 bl unlock in there? Maybe looking for some testers???
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I'm sure he will join when he can. He is busy this weekend.
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I wonder how many s4 users there are left..
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S4's UNITE! :thumbup:
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I switched my wife over to nexus 5p, I can't decide on a phone so rocking the S4 longer. Stang's ROM has helped to this. lol Though he has me waiting for extended desktop feature...
What more can be done to this phone? Feels it's all dependent on latest Google, TouchWiz, and CyanogenMod firmwares. The processor is still running today's tasks fine still.
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I switched my wife over to nexus 5p, I can't decide on a phone so rocking the S4 longer. Stang's ROM has helped to this. lol Though he has me waiting for extended desktop feature...
What more can be done to this phone? Feels it's all dependent on latest Google, TouchWiz, and CyanogenMod firmwares. The processor is still running today's tasks fine still.
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When building from source honestly there are so many things that can be done. It's just a matter of somebody taking on the task.
Now I need to make a telegram account...
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Klabit is npjohnson going to be doing any work with his s4 bl unlock in there? Maybe looking for some testers???
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Did someone say bl unlock!???
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marinegundoctor said:
S4's UNITE! :thumbup:
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:good::good::good:
Neffy27 said:
I switched my wife over to nexus 5p, I can't decide on a phone so rocking the S4 longer. Stang's ROM has helped to this. lol Though he has me waiting for extended desktop feature...
What more can be done to this phone? Feels it's all dependent on latest Google, TouchWiz, and CyanogenMod firmwares. The processor is still running today's tasks fine still.
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I'm running Stang's v2 rom on OF1. I thought this will be the closest I will ever get my S4 to running a streamlined ROM and I have to say, it's NEVER run better. Handles everything very nicely. I still find TWZ rather annoying though...so many baked-in 'features' that I've never used and don't care about.
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When building from source honestly there are so many things that can be done. It's just a matter of somebody taking on the task.
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That sounds like a lot of donations.
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That sounds like a lot of donations.
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just trying to spark some life back into it.
seems there are a good few newcomers and plenty of users that dont plan on going anywhere
@stang5litre has done an excellent job on that as well.
I'm too poor to go anywhere... also because the one phone I want is like 100 bucks... plus taxes and crap, which we sure as heck don't have the money for because yay water damage!
we did hijack mohammed's thread...haven't tried the new Safestrap yet. Does it work good?
So is there anything to this mention of a unlocked bootloader for the s4?
Yes, for MDK bootloader.
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I wonder if its possible to re-map memory to flash
really there isn't much public info on the state of kexec and what has/has not been tried or done
last I heard got the kernel to initialize but it was hanging at boot ... after that everybody sorta dropped
if you could map some of the memory to a flash partition you could walk it as it boots and get a better idea on whats going on
I'm still on this phone because it has the features I want with an unlocked BL. If the Nexus 6 had a removable SD card, battery, IR, and some of the Samsung features like side sync and multiwindow, I'd use it instead.
Also if the S5, or Note 3 BL proof of concept unlock ever gets released, I'd get either one.
One thing I'm currently looking at is removing all the google bits that are not part of the AOSP, and basically making the Phoenix ROM like a S4 would be if it only had Samsung's software on it.
I like the direction stang, and klabit are going to add as many features as possible from the newer Samsung phones to the S4.
UPSM is a boon to the day to day use of this phone, as is fast charge and the new kernel.
The only thing I could really wish for is that all the new features could be optional and selectable at install like some of them are in the Phoenix port.
I believe that the Chinese variants are this way because of the ban on google services in China.
I don't want to remove the google services for the reason China does. Just for battery life reasons, and the constant addition of features I don't want, or need.
I am slowing transitioning over to using mostly apps from the f-droid repository and side loading the few app only on the play store, backed up from another phone.
As far as telegram is concerned, it's not 100% secure in it's default configuration, if that is your main use of it.
I use another software that is currently still in beta called ring. It is cross platform as well as open source.
I'm also working on designing a 3d printed case for using an extended battery, Qi charging that is rugged and has a removable front S-view cover option.
When I get more 3d modeling of it done I'll put a link in my sig.
Edit: Wrong area, my bad.