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Hi everyone. I just wanted to mention that I am new to unlocked phones and was wondering if I can get some assistance on this issue. I tried reading the topic regarding the data plan below mine, but I didn't quite understand and not sure if it could answer my questions.
I recently received an Unlocked HTC Aria from Amazon for $339, but the box in which the phone was stored looks like an ordinary AT&T box, so I am doubting whether or not my phone is actually unlocked.
The Aria came with all the AT&T applications like AT&T Hotspot, AT&T Navigation, etc., so this puts me into further doubt.
I currently have an AT&T $10/month unlimited data plan for my Samsung Impression (non-smartphone, and did a SIM swap into the Aria. Everything was going smoothly until I decided to check out Google Navigation. I then received two text messages: The first one indicating that AT&T knows I'm using a smartphone and then one saying that AT&T automatically changed my data plan (I'm assuming to the $15/mo 200MB data plan). I went to my AT&T account and changed the HTC Aria back to the Samsung Impression, hoping maybe they will change it back automatically.
So, I have a few questions:
(1) Was the HTC Aria I received from Amazon actually unlocked?
(2) How can I avoid being detected my AT&T if I swap my SIM card again back into the Aria? Am I able to just use Wi-Fi and limit the amount of data I use?
(3) Should AT&T recognize my IMEI even if my phone is unlocked or will they know regardless because HTC Aria is supported by them?
(4) Even though I switched the phones back in the AT&T online account, will I still have to call them up?
I apologize for all these questions, but if anyone can please assist me, it'll be greatly appreciated.
I think you need to go back in and take a closer look at your account online and see what they actually did to your features, you may have just been screwed. When they transfered you over to the $15 200MB play i think you lost your $10 unlimited plan and may never get it back.
They still know you have your Aria on the account, you have to put your chip back in the old phone, wait about a few hours then check it online to see if it picked it up correctly, then call them and have them remove the data plan and put back your old plan "which they may not be able to do". After that switch back your sim to your Aria. If you get another text alert call them up and tell them you do not have a smartphone on the account and give them your Samsung Impression IMEI number.
Your Aria may not be unlocked just full price off contact, to see if its unlocked put a Tmobile or another non ATT sim in it and see if it picks up a signal.
I had a similar experience with the scanning process removing a feature and putting on the data plan here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7146488#post7146488
That's exactly what I did. As soon as I got the 2 text messages, I removed the SIM from the Aria and put it back the Samsung Impression. I actually changed the phone manually on my AT&T online account as AT&T did know that I was using the Aria. However, I do not have the option to change my data plan back to $10/mo unlimited as only the $15/mo 200MB data plan option is available. So, I will be calling AT&T in the morning to have it switched back.
I read your other post, but I do not think I have the Medianet bundle. I'm running on a Family plan with Unlimited Family Messaging and Unlimited Family Data ($10/mo for each non-smartphone). I checked the other phones on the plan and nothing has changed in terms of messaging/data plan. Only my phone was affected by the smartphone data plan.
Is there a way to get around this or is it just luck? I don't mind paying $15/mo for 200MB, but if I can avoid it, then why not?! Is it possible to completely disable 3G when Wi-Fi is in use? I heard some Aria owners who said that their 3G was actually still in use even though Wi-Fi was connected. From what I saw on my Aria, there was a check mark under 3G instead of the 2 illuminated arrows when Wi-Fi was connected. How about yours?
My Aria constantly have the chcek under the 3G icon when wifi is on, the only time the 2 arrows show up is when i send or receive a MMS. To disable 3G data there is a mobile data option when you hold down the power button after the unlock screen. There is also an option inside menu - settings - wireless & network - uncheck mobile internet to disable 3G data and use wifi only.
The check just means you are connected to the network it has nothing to do with wifi and data transmission on 3g has up/down arrows.
There's no sure fire way to avoid the at&t data nazis especially since they've already caught you once.there's another topic about aria with no data with more info.
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So I contacted HTC and gave them my S/N. They told me the HTC Aria "unlocked" I purchased at retail price was still locked. Now, I'm trying to figure out whether or not there are even unlocked HTC Aria's out there!
call the place you bought it from they will usually send a replacement next day free of charge samething happened to me with my phone not the aria though
Unlimited MOBILE WEB is an entirely different thing from a DATA plan. A mobile web restricts 3g usage to specific applications on the Impression while a data plan allows any app downloaded to use AT&T's network.
Your phone doesn't sound like it was unlocked but even if it was, AT&T can immediately tell which phone is connected to the network via your SIM. There's no real practical way to get out of paying 15 dollars a month. You could try turning off 3g on the Aria, which you can do allowing you to still send/receive calls and texts, but limits you to wifi for any apps that require the internet. Even if you turn it off though i have a feeling AT&T will still charge you 15 for the data plan just because it is a smart phone.
To be quite honest what is 5 more dollars anyway? That's my opinion...
Well, the Aria is branded under AT&T, so there is no such unlocked Aria right now. The HTC representative told me the only way to obtain an unlocked Aria is to actually have someone physically unlock it via unlock code.
As far as I can tell, the phone purchased through Amazon is not unlocked. It actually never was listed as Unlocked, so it was a mistake on my part.
I don't know if I will be able to return the phone though. I guess I can always tell them that there is something wrong with it and then they might allow a refund.
Oh, I don't mind paying the extra $5/mo. It's just that 200MB of data is not enough for me and of course unlimited beats it. However, if I do decide to keep the Aria, then I won't have a choice but to pay the $15.
Even if you get an unlocked Aria you will be saddled with the data plan for smartphones since it is an At&t branded phone the imei is in their database and eventually it will either scan it or if you use data services not covered by your existing plan it will switch you.
I was able to bypass the smartphone data plan and pay the $30 for unlimited data and messaging for non-smartphones but it was because I was using an unlocked T-Mobile G1 over EDGE.
Anyone have experience with the HTC Desire and AT&T non-smartphone data plan?
To add up to the conversation, one thing you need to understand, the ATT $10 non-smartphoine dataplan is not grandfather and so you can still added up to a non-smartphone at anytime,the unlimited for $30 for smartphone is no longer availabel and so you will need to chose from the $15 for 200mbs or the on2 for $20 for 2gbs... in regards to the a smartphone been unlocked or not, it makes no difference to ATT or any other service provider, a smartphone is a smarphone and yes they detect this via the IMEI which is syncronyze in the databse thru the SIM card as soon as you device registers on their network...you can change the device you have registered at any time it makes no difference...why because you will still be using a smartphone...it is inevitable my friend! the only way I see it happening is changing the IMEI of your device or not using a smartphone at all...sad but true!
why would you buy an unlocked at&t phone to use on at&ts network?
if you put your sim card in any at&t phone, they will detect your IMEI number, find out if its a smart phone or not, and charge you accordingly. they will be more than happy to charge you MORE for using a smartphone, but they certainly will not charge you LESS because you switched back. if you don't plan on using the aria, just put your sim in your old phone, call at&t and get the data plan switched back to the not-smart-phone plan.
if you want a smartphone on at&t, but do not want to pay for the at&t data plan, your only real option is to get a t-mobile branded phone, such as the g1 or mytouch, and unlock it.
For anyone using this phone on AT&T, can you tell me how AT&T recognizes the phone? Are you required to get the expensive capped data plans (does AT&T recognize it as a smartphone) or can you use the cheap dumbphone data plan (like I do with Bell Galaxy S and Milestone in my sig)
Answer would be appreciated
NOBODY using this phone on AT&T?
Honestly I'd like to know as well, as I am interested in getting one but currently it seems there's no dev scene for it. Which is disappointing since it can be bought right from Dell and works on ATT bands and Tmobile. (that is what's kept me from getting one.)
I would guess however, that it will work fine as AT&T doesn't have this phone on contract and therefore has no need for the IMEI numbers. But as always, I guess we won't know till someone takes the chance.
I have one on ATT, works just fine. I have the unlimited smartphone plan, but I'm sure you could use it with the dumbphone plans, since the IMEI isn't recognized with ATT
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I have one on ATT, works just fine. I have the unlimited smartphone plan, but I'm sure you could use it with the dumbphone plans, since the IMEI isn't recognized with ATT
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how does it show up in your account online? Any picture or name?
I'm still a bit wary beacuse I know the Dell Streak was recognized by AT&T and required the pricey plans so I want to know if that will happen with the Venue
Like the previous poster said, disappointed there's not more dev, the Venue has nice, proven hardware and great frequencies to utilize.
I would love to know too. Since I heard rumors that Dell gave ATT all their imei numbers.
I need a smartphone without a data plan.
I have had the Venue on ATT for about a week, i just used the SIM that came out of my Tilt 2. My online ATT acct doesnt show a pic or say what phone i have. Its the same it has been when i used my HD2 and HD7. But i have a smartphone plan so im not sure this is any help.
I just got one of these and got the unlock code for it. When I put in my AT&T SIM and set up the APN I only show EDGE data network and not 3G. Further the bands on the box show the AT&T 3G bands!?!?! I have an unlimitted Smartphone data plan.
Those of you who say "It works fine" Do you not have data? If you do are you getting 3G?!? If so are you in a major market?
Finally, do you have a newer AT&T 3G sim card or maybe an older one from cingular or something?
Thanks!
I think you have the wrong phone.
This phone comes only in the unlocked version. No unlock code needed.
i think they recognize phone through the sim card, what i did was find a crappy flip phone, put the sim card in there, sign up for hte $10 data family plan, and then switch back to my cappy....still havent been caught
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Got the Venue. 2 weeks later (today) received email from ATT, they are adding appropriate Smartphone Data Plan. A friend of mine at ATT says this could only happen if ATT gets serial number from Dell.
I am new and I could not post this as a reply to this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983 in the Developers section so I created a new thread here.
I called AT&T CS and the rep told me that I needed a new sim card to access the 4g network and to call when I receive it in a few days to call back and change my iphone unlimited plan to the smartphone unlimited plan. He said to only speak to a supervisor in order to keep my unlimited plan. Just feels risky. I live in San Antonio TX and he assured me that HSPA+ is defintitley working here and LTE is actually working although I don't think there are any devices available from AT&T right now that support LTE. I currently get 3-5mbs on Speedtest and I am wondering if i will even see a difference with new sim card. Is it worth even switching to smartphone plan? I don't wanna risk loosing my unlimited plan if i am not going to see any difference in speed anyway. Any thoughts?
I have the unlimited data plan with at&t , Im getting H+ with my old 3g sim card. with up to 6mbp Supposed to be getting 7 . I dont think you need a new card for 4g? Not sure tho dont take that for fact It might be true! Most Att store employes Dont know what the hell there talking about. They do more screwing you then helping you. Keep your sim and dont tell them you are switching phones. Wate for more info from people here before you decide
Bump.. Any info?
If you search, you'll find several topics on this. Short story, you do not need a new SIM card, but in order to get the full speeds of HSPA+, you will need to provide AT&T with an IMEI number from a AT&T 4G phone. You can't use the Galaxy S2 IMEI because it's not a USA based phone, and it's not in their database. Just look up an IMEI for an Atrix or some other 4G phone (you can go to the AT&T store and look up the number on the floor model if you want) and give it to them. It doesn't need to be unique. Tell them you got an Atrix, not a Galaxy S2.
You should speak with a supervisor to retain your unlimited plan, or else they might switch you to a limited plan.
Otherwise, you can stay as you are, and you can access HSPA+, but not the full speed (assuming you're in an area that has the full speeds available).
So we know the Note can work on Tmobile's network.. as well as HSPA+... And for $60 tmobile offers Prepaid Unlimited everything 4g.. although 4g cuts out at 2gb then on to 3g... well just wondering if anyone's done this? Are the sim cards the same size.. and is it possible to port a phone# to a tmobile prepaid plan? I know I could possibly find this info if I dug around but I'm on the road and shouldn't be even writing this.. can't beat speech to txt..
I gotta have that speech to text app. Never saw one that good before.
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I gotta have that speech to text app. Never saw one that good before.
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Plus 1 bravo. Mabey he is just very well spoken
"Since God created man, and man created the Galaxy Note, the Galaxy Note are like a gift from God, Randal!"
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So we know the Note can work on Tmobile's network.. as well as HSPA+... And for $60 tmobile offers Prepaid Unlimited everything 4g.. although 4g cuts out at 2gb then on to 3g... well just wondering if anyone's done this? Are the sim cards the same size.. and is it possible to port a phone# to a tmobile prepaid plan? I know I could possibly find this info if I dug around but I'm on the road and shouldn't be even writing this.. can't beat speech to txt..
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I just moved from att to t-mo's $30-100min- unlim. text and data monthly 4g plan. The sim is the same size- standard. When you get your plan activated, you will be assigned a number. When you are up and running on t-mo, you need to call their porting number. They will get it rolling, and in 2-24 hrs depending, your att# will be active on the t-mo sim and your att sim will be dead. Your att account will also be dead. Your old t-mo # will be replaced by the att #. Order your sim online for $1.99 from t-mobile.com. Make sure you get the whole activation kit. You can only get the 100 minute plan online. The other 4g monthly plans you can do over the phone.
And please don't text and drive!
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I just moved from att to t-mo's $30-100min- unlim. text and data monthly 4g plan. The sim is the same size- standard. When you get your plan activated, you will be assigned a number. When you are up and running on t-mo, you need to call their porting number. They will get it rolling, and in 2-24 hrs depending, your att# will be active on the t-mo sim and your att sim will be dead. Your att account will also be dead. Your old t-mo # will be replaced by the att #. Order your sim online for $1.99 from t-mobile.com. Make sure you get the whole activation kit. You can only get the 100 minute plan online. The other 4g monthly plans you can do over the phone.
And please don't text and drive!
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Hi Sashusmom!
Agree with you. Good place to post a reminder like that, considering EVERYONE who comes here has a phone, and prolly more than half "text & drive"... Driving & Texting is like suicide/homicide without "making the plans".... Its a numbers game, with every text you send/read while driving, your odds increase for a disaster...
K ::::::getting down off soapbox::::: : )
Thanks for your post, i have a few Q's:
1. Did you have to change the APN Settings?
2. And this was on a AT&T Note, not the Int'l version?
3. And what happens if & when u DO run out of min?
3B : ) Is there a way to add min?
4. Can this be done same on Int'l Note?
ty!
Ms D
Yea Im wondering about this plan as well Im guessing I need to get my phone unlocked before going to tmoble if I have the ATT note
im running t mobile prepaid now and have been since the galaxy s2 which got 4g might i add..all i did was unlock the phone by going to unlock my phone.com. Then rooted with the unofficial beta 2 version 4.. Everything works fine no forced closes no difference it all works just as i said.. The radio you need is ucld3 but its built into the rom so good luck..no close this thread
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thanks for the reply's... I think I'm gonna do this, also I am currently with Sprint paying 99 for the unlimited everything plan.. plus premium 4g..plus tax.. plus insurance makes my bill around $118... So I'd be saving a great deal on either the tmobile4g prepaid or with Straight Talk unlimited everything at $45 .. that would save me more than $800 a year!
So now I need to decide between straight talk via tmobile(see website) for everything $45 or Tmobile at 60 for the same service(I guess). Sounds like Straight Talk uses either ATT or Tmobile towers depending which phone you choose. Any experience with this anyone? Also would I be better off with a international version Note or Att version Note?... I watched a youtube video of a guy doing speedtests using straight talk and the international version of the Note and it looks great!>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsNggiZeZ6I&feature=related
Also I was sitting in my car at Mcdonalds when I posted originally.. and I was using the Microphone button to txt.. with a bit of typing.
The 4g Plans can be used for the Note? I noticed that the website said for Tmobile capable phones. Tmobile bring your own phone plans require a two year contract. SMH.
I originally bought a HTC HD2, which I rooted and also had to use the sim card it came with since my old one wouldnt work. Fast forward from than to today, and my friend sold me his tmobile samsung galaxy s2 I put in my hd2 sim into that and I can send/recieve phone calls and send and recieve text, and when I first entered my google account it downloaded all my contacts. I have a 3G data plan, is it true I have to update my plan to 4g to use the data on this phone? or is it my sim card isnt completely compatible and i need to get a new sim from tmobile in order to get data again.
Or can i just root my phone like i did with my hd2, than i would get data back?
I just want and answer from here first before I go to tmobile store, or go only to my account and do everything from there.
aidan1982 said:
I originally bought a HTC HD2, which I rooted and also had to use the sim card it came with since my old one wouldnt work. Fast forward from than to today, and my friend sold me his tmobile samsung galaxy s2 I put in my hd2 sim into that and I can send/recieve phone calls and send and recieve text, and when I first entered my google account it downloaded all my contacts. I have a 3G data plan, is it true I have to update my plan to 4g to use the data on this phone? or is it my sim card isnt completely compatible and i need to get a new sim from tmobile in order to get data again.
Or can i just root my phone like i did with my hd2, than i would get data back?
I just want and answer from here first before I go to tmobile store, or go only to my account and do everything from there.
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T-mobile USA?
T-mobile USA's Galaxy S2 is a different device. This forum is for the GT-i9100. T-mobile USA's Galaxy S2 is the SGH-T989. The forum for that device is http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1329