Droid Razr... to buy or not to buy? - Motorola Droid RAZR

Im thinking about buying a Moto Razr.
I have Currently an LG optimus X2 so i think the Razr will have a much better Hardware And whatnot.
So what is it with the roms wor the RAZR ICS or JB Custom roms out that realy stable?
Thanks

The ICS roms are pretty good. The JB roms are still kinda so-so. I have the vanilla Razr. Wish I had the Maxx.

MyNameIsJeff said:
The ICS roms are pretty good. The JB roms are still kinda so-so. I have the vanilla Razr. Wish I had the Maxx.
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The Razr is a great phone. Battery life is kind of short. I would get the MAXX if you can. One thing- the Razr XT912's bootloader is locked and will probably stay locked... so yeah.

I regret buying it honestly, it could be such a great a great phone but Motorola and Verizon did certain things to make it bad, locked boot loader, locked sim, keeping the JB update and more. Perhaps Google (Google bought moto mobile in case you don't know) may spread there awesomeness and unlock the boot loader, but other than that the phones honestly pretty good but they make it bad. I prefer my s3, because of those reasons.

mr.noob said:
I regret buying it honestly, it could be such a great a great phone but Motorola and Verizon did certain things to make it bad, locked boot loader, locked sim, keeping the JB update and more. Perhaps Google (Google bought moto mobile in case you don't know) may spread there awesomeness and unlock the boot loader, but other than that the phones honestly pretty good but they make it bad. I prefer my s3, because of those reasons.
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I completely agree with you. I would get the samsung if you can afford it.

MyNameIsJeff said:
The ICS roms are pretty good. The JB roms are still kinda so-so. I have the vanilla Razr. Wish I had the Maxx.
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Razr1 said:
The Razr is a great phone. Battery life is kind of short. I would get the MAXX if you can. One thing- the Razr XT912's bootloader is locked and will probably stay locked... so yeah.
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mr.noob said:
I regret buying it honestly, it could be such a great a great phone but Motorola and Verizon did certain things to make it bad, locked boot loader, locked sim, keeping the JB update and more. Perhaps Google (Google bought moto mobile in case you don't know) may spread there awesomeness and unlock the boot loader, but other than that the phones honestly pretty good but they make it bad. I prefer my s3, because of those reasons.
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Razr1 said:
I completely agree with you. I would get the samsung if you can afford it.
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Okay so i cant affor a S III or an HTC one X so i stick with my second choice a HTC Sensation XE
Thanks realy

Sv: Droid Razr... to buy or not to buy?
If you are going to get one, get the maxx version. Hands down best battery out there. Also ics is stable enough for daily use.
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[Q] X2 future proof?

I just got the X2 and it's been running fine for me. It seems with the Tegra 2, this phone would possibly be able to handle Android 4.0 whenever it comes out. With the lack of development, what are the chances that the X2 will just ride with GB until its death? I like so far how the phone is working well out of the box, but in 1-1.75 years when the phone shows its age, I would like to mod it here and there to get some more life out of it.
No phone is future proof. The Tegra3 is around the croner for tablets, and phones wont be that far behind. I would bet 4g phones get the Tegra3, so if 4g is a negative for a select crowd, the DX2 may be the last great 3g phone. It will be interesting to see if they continue supporting a high-end 3g line.
I would imagine ICS would run fine on OG DX much less DX2. I would say there is a small, but possible chance a stock DX2 would die on GB. But the dev will bring it regardless.
Edit: And at this point I am 100% satisfied with everything I have flashed on DX2. What did DX have? Liberty and Apex. And yes a good bit of themes. But the devs here have a ton of scripts I never saw on DX and the themes have been coming fast, and are of good quality. The eclipse ROM has branched to AOSP, so both crowds should be happy. I personally stuck with 2.2 and couldnt be happier.
Jrummy can choke on his Charge
That's good to hear. ICS seems like it's going to be a new experience and I would hate to miss out on it. I'm a "noob" and so I can't demand things and my understanding is limited, but the bootlock seems to be restricting development
madflava54 said:
That's good to hear. ICS seems like it's going to be a new experience and I would hate to miss out on it. I'm a "noob" and so I can't demand things and my understanding is limited, but the bootlock seems to be restricting development
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I seriously doubt that we get an official update to ics.
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ilovesoad said:
I seriously doubt that we get an official update to ics.
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Lol so negative. What makes you think we wont? Motorola is actually decent with updates. Hell the og dx got gingerbread before we did so I doubt they will just totally forget about us.
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Kanibull said:
Lol so negative. What makes you think we wont? Motorola is actually decent with updates. Hell the og dx got gingerbread before we did so I doubt they will just totally forget about us.
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Not to mention that Google bought Moto recently. I think we will indeed get ICS.
Zeravnos said:
Not to mention that Google bought Moto recently. I think we will indeed get ICS.
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Let's hope so! There is a game called "We Rule" that doesn't work on the X2 yet but on the X1! BOOO

Could ICS be coming to X2 from Verizon?

Per Droid Life, and Twitter, Verizon tweeted that they are in the midst of updating their Software Upgrade Timeline. Droid Life is stating they feel the X2 is a yes in getting it.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/1...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(droid+life)
We can only hope! I saw, tweet the snot out of Verzion and DEMAND ICS for the X2 (and adding an unlocked boot loader would be icing on the cake, er sandwich)
I have to agree with this list. Although I don't think the x1 down will receive ICS to push users to get newer devices.
It better also come with an unlocked bootloader IF we get ICS!
Good news. We deserve SOMETHING from Motorola. If not an unlocked bootloader then ICS for sure. Motorola has given us nothing but a few crappy bug fixes. lol. But Im not in too much of a hurry though since I have CM7 now.
jsgraphicart said:
Good news. We deserve SOMETHING from Motorola. If not an unlocked bootloader then ICS for sure. Motorola has given us nothing but a few crappy bug fixes. lol. But Im not in too much of a hurry though since I have CM7 now.
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True, very true. But, to have an official ICS means possibly that Dragonzkiller and company can REALLY go to town on CM9 for the X2!
Motorola better not stiff us on ICS like they did the boot loaders.
But, the X2 will still be my final Moto device since they lied to us about the boot loaders and have not returned a single email I've sent. And I've been cordial and tactful. No hate, no cussing, no name-calling; very business-like but frank and to the point.
jsgraphicart said:
Good news. We deserve SOMETHING from Motorola. If not an unlocked bootloader then ICS for sure. Motorola has given us nothing but a few crappy bug fixes. lol. But Im not in too much of a hurry
though since I have CM7 now.
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They gave us updates for bug fixes with more bugs in them.
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iBolski said:
Per Droid Life, and Twitter, Verizon tweeted that they are in the midst of updating their Software Upgrade Timeline. Droid Life is stating they feel the X2 is a yes in getting it.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/01/1...feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+DroidLife+(droid+life)
We can only hope! I saw, tweet the snot out of Verzion and DEMAND ICS for the X2 (and adding an unlocked boot loader would be icing on the cake, er sandwich)
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Lol at OG Droid "not likely ". Did it even get ota gingerbread?
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This could be why 2.3.5 still hasn't been released for this phone after tht leak.... Still on 2.3.4 eclipse and running great.
I was under the impression Moto said that every dual-core device would get ICS eventually.
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Lol at OG Droid "not likely ". Did it even get ota gingerbread?
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It didn't, only way to get GB on the OG was through custom ROMs such as CM7.
ICS maybe is better then no ICS at all... err. Think we all need patience, I am sure Moto will be pushing ICS to their 4G devices first, but who knows.
iBolski said:
True, very true. But, to have an official ICS means possibly that Dragonzkiller and company can REALLY go to town on CM9 for the X2!
Motorola better not stiff us on ICS like they did the boot loaders.
But, the X2 will still be my final Moto device since they lied to us about the boot loaders and have not returned a single email I've sent. And I've been cordial and tactful. No hate, no cussing, no name-calling; very business-like but frank and to the point.
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+1
If Moto gives us four (?) crappy updates and drops support, it will be a cold day when I buy moto again.
Give me CM9 and Ill be happy!!! Good job Dragon and company!
usmc1488 said:
Give me CM9 and Ill be happy!!! Good job Dragon and company!
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Is somebody working on CM9 or ICS for X2 or are we going to need a pushed ICS update for the kernel before a ROM is attempted?
I doubt we will get it but if we do? A 4.0 superbloated blur infested phone is what we will have. My question would be...will 2nd init likely have to be started from scratch?
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I'm waiting until either the bionic or razor to get it and watch their forums to see what moto has screwed up or even make it possible to root my theory is that we might have to create a new 2int which would suck
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RyanThaDude said:
It better also come with an unlocked bootloader IF we get ICS!
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Lol one step at a time
I hope we definitely get it, but if CM7 mod can get out of beta and be almost 100% working I'll be fine with that until ICS. Personally I think it's 50/50 for us to get it or not. It's arguably the best pure 3G dual-core phone on the market
Meticode said:
I hope we definitely get it, but if CM7 mod can get out of beta and be almost 100% working I'll be fine with that until ICS. Personally I think it's 50/50 for us to get it or not. It's arguably the best pure 3G dual-core phone on the market
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It is almost 100% working HDMI is not supported by cm so that'll be a while it may never get outta the beta name
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Meticode said:
I hope we definitely get it, but if CM7 mod can get out of beta and be almost 100% working I'll be fine with that until ICS. Personally I think it's 50/50 for us to get it or not. It's arguably the best pure 3G dual-core phone on the market
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I would like to believe that but the Droid X had way better reception inside buildings then the Droid X2 I currently have. I have tried everything currently running eclipse 2.0.3 with mash up mod. I been thinking about trying CM7 but not if its really better then eclipse.
Smokncars said:
I would like to believe that but the Droid X had way better reception inside buildings then the Droid X2 I currently have. I have tried everything currently running eclipse 2.0.3 with mash up mod. I been thinking about trying CM7 but not if its really better then eclipse.
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Thanks for that...
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AOSP ROM for Droid Razr GSM ?

Are there any AOSP ROMs out there for the Droid Razr GSM ?
I might be blind, or stupid (take you pick) but so far I have not found any ROM out there that did not have the terrible Motorola Apps bundled into it.
A while back I tried to get into the whole ROM Development thing, but it all just goes over my head as I have no development experience at all.
The thing is that the dialer of the Droid Razr is not stock, and as far as I can see the SMS Messaging app is also doctored (the smilies suck majorly I have to say).
jadephyre said:
Are there any AOSP ROMs out there for the Droid Razr GSM ?
I might be blind, or stupid (take you pick) but so far I have not found any ROM out there that did not have the terrible Motorola Apps bundled into it.
A while back I tried to get into the whole ROM Development thing, but it all just goes over my head as I have no development experience at all.
The thing is that the dialer of the Droid Razr is not stock, and as far as I can see the SMS Messaging app is also doctored (the smilies suck majorly I have to say).
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Im with ya buddy on this..if u see my sig, it will tell u IM waiting for it to happen too...though there are CDMA ROMs that are nearly stock, BUT for GSM...nope!
Not yet, but droidhive received the gsm razr so is a matter of time before we can have aokp cm9 and aosp working for us
BakaPhoenix said:
Not yet, but droidhive received the gsm razr so is a matter of time before we can have aokp cm9 and aosp working for us
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There is an expression in India, I will translate it in English "May your mouth be filled with your fav sweets..."
I just hope this becomes a reality....
circleofomega said:
There is an expression in India, I will translate it in English "May your mouth be filled with your fav sweets..."
I just hope this becomes a reality....
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These rom are already working on cdma ics, so they need only to make work the gsm part of the rom. Is not something so distant from being real XD
BakaPhoenix said:
These rom are already working on cdma ics, so they need only to make work the gsm part of the rom. Is not something so distant from being real XD
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Is it? From whatever little I have seen, except for Droidth3ory's Infektion, nothing else is stock AOSP...
But I know we are gonna be surprised sooner than we think...
Sent from my Moto RAZR.
What bugs me most about all the ROMs out there are the customizations applied to them.
I'm not going to rail against the devs, it's their personal choice what they do with their builds, they are just not my cup of tea.
Hopefully someone will release a barebones, purely stock ROM without any of their personal improvements (and neither of Motorola's either).
jadephyre said:
What bugs me most about all the ROMs out there are the customizations applied to them.
I'm not going to rail against the devs, it's their personal choice what they do with their builds, they are just not my cup of tea.
Hopefully someone will release a barebones, purely stock ROM without any of their personal improvements (and neither of Motorola's either).
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Make that two. I am no one to speak against the devs hard work and efforts put in. In fact I admire all of the people who spend time and energy here. But I too prefer a pure stock barebones OS...our best bet is to wait...
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circleofomega said:
our best bet is to wait...
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That is an option. My plan is to trade in for new phone.
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MarkyG82 said:
That is an option. My plan is to trade in for new phone.
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If only I could have a GNexus in India...but then again, I hate Samsung...
Sent from my Moto RAZR.
Why do you hate Samsung? If its build quality, they are better than you think.
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MarkyG82 said:
Why do you hate Samsung? If its build quality, they are better than you think.
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I don't know...its perception perhaps. Just don't like their designs. And didn't the GNexus have the signal dropping issue?
HW wise Motorola is better. Not saying its the best...but better.
Sent from my Moto RAZR.
My bro is on a gnex and never had an issue. Even now with the jb update. Personally I don't like the onscreen buttons so I wouldn't have one. I had a galaxy 1 for a while and was happy with the hardware. The software was so easily hackable that the poor offerings from Samsung were ignored completely until I sold it.
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Edit. I'd suggest trying one for a few days if you can. Even hacking it if the owner will let you.
circleofomega said:
I don't know...its perception perhaps. Just don't like their designs. And didn't the GNexus have the signal dropping issue?
HW wise Motorola is better. Not saying its the best...but better.
Sent from my Moto RAZR.
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I so agree with you. I own both Gnex and Razr like you do I think. Motorola is just better in so many way.. Reception, speaker, phone quality in general. If only the bootloader was unlocked... thats the major issue for me.
Is a dream, a gsm aosp rom *-*
gmouraf said:
Is a dream, a gsm aosp rom *-*
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:good:
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gmouraf said:
Is a dream, a gsm aosp rom *-*
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Yeah, and from what i've seen it'll stay a dream.
Every other rom out there that i've seen has had a bunch of stuff added that hardly anyone will ever use, or has been made rather hideous in respect to themes and color palettes.
There is a reason behind the way Android looks as standard, and I personally do not think that there is any need for improvement, at least on Android 4.0.4, so it would be really nice if the devs could leave the visual experience unchanged
They relesead the alpha for cm9 on gsm razr, i know that is not completelly aosp but is very similar to it.
(i'm not posting the link since is an alpha and inexperienced people might try to install it and brick or having problem with it)
CyanogenMod has been a battery hog ever since CM6 for me, that's why I ditched it for OxygenROM. Also, i'm sorry to say that CM also has accumulated too much bloatware after it became popular. The choice to include ADW was likewise spectacularly stupid.
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jadephyre said:
CyanogenMod has been a battery hog ever since CM6 for me, that's why I ditched it for OxygenROM. Also, i'm sorry to say that CM also has accumulated too much bloatware after it became popular. The choice to include ADW was likewise spectacularly stupid.
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The cm9 doesn't have adw, it have a custumized launcher based on the original one that let you change number of screen e some other little tweaks. Still you can froze tha app you don't like and have a almost clean aosp (plus the power widget onthe status bar that i found very usefull)

Jumping ship, and cleaning that little crevasse between screen and edge...

Yeah the locked bootloader, and all these devs jumping ship has caused me to make the sad sad decision as well.
I remember using the OG I9000 Galaxy S and the simple joy of browsing up and down the XDA forums looking for a new fresh ROM to flash. Unfortunately I don't get the same joys with my RAZR and I think it's a bummer, considering it's an attractive and svelte device with good internals. (Also, it's Android. Why would you lock your bootloader if you don't agree with a "open" ecosystem. Damn you Motorola.)
I'm rocking the XT910 model GSM unlocked and I just have a few things to take care of beforehand.
The little crevasse between the edge of the phone and the screen is home to (in my case) some lint which is although minor, is really unattractive and downright annoying. It's the little part of the glass where it slopes down into a ridge. Has anybody cleaned this before? Would anybody suggest I use a toothbrush to brush out the little dust and lint?
Also, I'm no fan of the SIII (cheap plastic phones belong in Toys R Us, not Best Buy, also S Voice is a sham), and I'm not sure how happy I'd be using a dual core One X with the knowledge that there is a quad core version in Asia. If I do hold on to my phone until say, December, do you think I'd still be able to fetch ... say ... $300 used in excellent condition?
Thanks
I love my RAZR Maxx. I've had the OG Droid, OG Atrix, Bionic and Droid Charge - the RAZR Maxx is by far my favorite. Really, I bought it for the 3300mah battery and the notification LED, but I'm really starting to love my RAZR Maxx.
The Atrix and Bionic displays were kind of crappy, so I was a bit hesitant to get the RAZR Maxx, but I'm glad that I did. I guess they changed their displays to SAMOLED+?
The one thing I miss is the sweet Wolfson DAC in the Droid Charge.
Why do people feel the need to announce they are dropping the RAZR?
News flash: no one cares.
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I too love my razr maxx, therefore the cleaning question posted above becomes even more relevant how do we clean that ridge?
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mrjinglesusa said:
Why do people feel the need to announce they are dropping the RAZR?
News flash: no one cares.
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I had two questions in my first post, you know.
mrjinglesusa said:
Why do people feel the need to announce they are dropping the RAZR?
News flash: no one cares.
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people leaving Razr means less people who're on the same bot with me.
I do like to mess with this phone (locked bootloader is nothing) & give away stuff.
less audience means less motivation to me..
so is the less the merrier??
whirleyes said:
people leaving Razr means less people who're on the same bot with me.
I do like to mess with this phone (locked bootloader is nothing) & give away stuff.
less audience means less motivation to me..
so is the less the merrier??
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The locked bootloader sucks :/ I use Epsilon V4 as a ROM, and I just found out that the developer just sold his RAZR for an iPhone >_>
I figure if the developers are packing up, I've got little incentive to stay and wait for custom ROMS :/
Zadabest said:
The locked bootloader sucks :/ I use Epsilon V4 as a ROM, and I just found out that the developer just sold his RAZR for an iPhone >_>
I figure if the developers are packing up, I've got little incentive to stay and wait for custom ROMS :/
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must be something wrong with his exam (play with razr to much???)
whirleyes said:
people leaving Razr means less people who're on the same bot with me.
I do like to mess with this phone (locked bootloader is nothing) & give away stuff.
less audience means less motivation to me..
so is the less the merrier??
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The Maxx has just been released in EU and there coming new Users every day. Just because they don't post on XDA doesn't mean, that they don't use your Stuff
I have a lot to do in my Home Forum to explain People, how they should use your BootMenu or Modules. You got an good Name in the game :thumbup:
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yeah, whirleyes your bootmenu is awesome.:good:
HSD-Pilot said:
The Maxx has just been released in EU and there coming new Users every day. Just because they don't post on XDA doesn't mean, that they don't use your Stuff
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But there's no more dev/ROM project to support BootMenu (AFAIK). That's my biggest concern...
& it's hard to do automation of safestrap ROM back-porting (still possible)
whirleyes said:
But there's no more dev/ROM project to support BootMenu (AFAIK). That's my biggest concern...
& it's hard to do automation of safestrap ROM back-porting (still possible)
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I don't understand why they wont support it
being a game changer is hard enough

Any news for JB root razr xt910

any news for razr root JB?
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look at the development section, we have more than enough rooted jb ROMs.
But there's not yet for European jelly bean leak
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Best and easiest solution is not to update through recovery with update.zip package if you think it's hard to preserve root, but to install bmm when you are in 4.0.4 and then flash jb kernel and rom. There are a few stock rooted roms and also some modified ones.
When there will be a root solution for eu jb you will surely see it in xda. you guys keep making threads with root for jb...
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any news for razr root JB?
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Ya this has been bugging me since Voodo OTA Rootkeeper failed me. I am stuck on JB Unrooted, sucking battery because of the terrible built in apps Moto thought would be "neat" for 99% of people that will never use, or ever have a use for... Citrix Receiver for example. I was hoping someone here would not just post a stupid reply and for anyone who is a dev to at least update us as to if they are even working on it, or just waiting until the official fastboots come out (if they do) or waiting until Moto's rollout is done.
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Ya this has been bugging me since Voodo OTA Rootkeeper failed me. I am stuck on JB Unrooted, sucking battery because of the terrible built in apps Moto thought would be "neat" for 99% of people that will never use, or ever have a use for... Citrix Receiver for example. I was hoping someone here would not just post a stupid reply and for anyone who is a dev to at least update us as to if they are even working on it, or just waiting until the official fastboots come out (if they do) or waiting until Moto's rollout is done.
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for the built in Moto's apps, dont you just have to disable it in app setting? I stuck with the unroot too, I swear if isn't for its good design, I would have sold it loooong ago.
thedeath93 said:
for the built in Moto's apps, dont you just have to disable it in app setting? I stuck with the unroot too, I swear if isn't for its good design, I would have sold it loooong ago.
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Same here, and the sadest thing is that new razrs are not razrs at all... they are regular fat phones...
ISG182 said:
Same here, and the sadest thing is that new razrs are not razrs at all... they are regular fat phones...
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The new Razrs are far from fat.
I don't get everyone's super thin obsession.
-Sent from Marino's Maxx-
I Am Marino said:
The new Razrs are far from fat.
I don't get everyone's super thin obsession.
-Sent from Marino's Maxx-
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Yes, because You have a Maxx, whitch is fat. So comparing to Your phone, new "Razrs" are normal. But for us, the owners, of the REAL RAZRS, new gen is a real dissapointment. I mean... lets face it, Razrs (from the begginning - V3) were ALL about how thin they were, and the flawlees design. They were THE THINNEST phones in the world. Og Droid Razr even now, after almost 2 years is one of the thinnest phones arround. Meanwhine the new Razrs should not been marketed as RAZR in the first place, because they are the same thickness as all other phones. If Motorola wont release new gen razr, lets say somewhere about 6.1mm, they are screwed... because they cant offer anything else than a design. Software and screens goes to Samsung (impossible to beat), build quality ant materials goes to Sony and Htc, so what is left? I can tell You whats left (for a Razr line): FLAWLESS SUPER THIN DESIGN! AVERAGE SPEC (more to the better side), and REASONABLE PRICE. For example, in my country (in EUROPE), RAZR HD costs way more than S3. So new Razrs doesnt have the chance to stand out in any way (average spec, average design, average materials,HUGE price tag). Good luck, motorola...
Just check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8pT6y4ty4U
Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2257137

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